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Oprah is both anti male and anti white. Here is the article by Debbie Schlussel.
HOprah Watch: Does Oprah Practice Apartheid? It Appears She Does
By Debbie Schlussel
Does Oprah practice apartheid?
Today, on self-absorbed Oprah's XM radio station, HRHSBOtU (Her Royal Highness Supreme Being of the Universe) Oprah is broadcasting the opening ceremony of the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa, which took place today.
The broadcast, conceitedly entitled "My Tomorrow" by Oprah, should probably be subtitled, "The New Apartheid." You see, Oprah personally handpicked the 152 girls who will attend her new South African school.
And based on photos, it appears not a single one of the girls she picked is White. When I first heard about Oprah doing the admissions, herself, last spring, I contacted her Harpo Studios to find out whether Oprah chose any Whites for the school. An Oprah press person called me back and told me they'd get back to me with the racial make-up of the entering classes of Oprah's Academy. Now, months later, they never did.
And it appears there are no White students. Were none of the 3,500 applicants White? Were Whites told they need not apply? Are there no South African White female "teens and preteens from poor and troubled backgrounds"? Since Oprah calls the girls her "dreamgirls," would love to know the answers. But, alas, I didn't get any.
For someone who opposed apartheid and openly preaches harmony of the races, it appears HRHSBOtU doesn't practice what she preaches. Rape of young White girls is now at epidemic proportions in South Africa. You'd think that one of these victims would benefit from attending Oprah's posh new school--complete with yoga studio and beauty salon.
But apparently, there is not room on the posh, $40 million, 22-acre complex for any White young women. If there were, I'd think the Oprah people would get back to me with that information. But they haven't.
And based on her broadcast conversations with Friend Gayle King, Oprah apparently doesn't really like White people all that much.
Well, she can get away with it in South Africa. But if she refused all White candidates or didn't encourage them to apply to a school in the U.S., she'd be violating civil rights laws.
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Debbie Schlussel is a racist sack of poo. Oprah can do whatever she wants with her money. If she doesn't like it then she should put up her own money.
Joan Rivers and Phyllis Diller are rich white Jewish women who have never done anything for anyone except themselves, wasting tons and tons of money on awful plastic surgery and gawdy jewelry. I'll bet neither one of them has given money to Israel. Why isn't Ms. Schlussel up in arms about that? Debbie Schlussel is fairly wealthy herself. How many little goyish whites girls is she spending her hard earned money on to help?
Considering all the poor white trailer trash she's doled out loot on her show, as nasty as you white racists react to her I wouldn't blame her if she never gave another white person the time of day.
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This just public relations for that creature. I would be sickened if any white child was to be indoctrinated in that 'school'. Oprah is only trying to clean up her past. She is an admitted slut, a drug user and a self absorbed idiot. Hey maybe she and osama obama can exchange drug dealers phone numbers.
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Oprah Winfrey: "I say to the critics, be damned. Be damned because you don’t know what you’re talking about.”
Oprah can do as she pleases with her money, or the money her predominantly white audience sends her for her pet projects, even if it includes "keeping a promise" to open a school for girls only that she made to that smooth talking terrorist in a suit and tie, Nelson Mandela (who is on record, singing about killing white people, didn't Oprah know that?) who was released from prison on condition he didn't enter politics (even though he should have hanged as a gun smuggling traitor -- didn't Oprah know that?).
Oprah's school for girls feeds the feminist beast that bellows women are the future salvation of the world. Oprah has mainly taken black girls from poor South African neighborhoods, which is her prerogative, but she shows her inexcusable ignorance about apartheid when she blames it for their level of poverty (it's been over for years Oprah and blacks from the rest of Africa clamored to get into South Africa under apartheid for economic advantages!).
Does Oprah blame apartheid for the poverty of those white girls turned away from her school because of their color? Sounds like Miss Oprah is just exposing more of the double-standard blacks get away with too often and don't like it when called on it. Shame.
Aid for Africa? (http://ezinearticles.com/?Aid-for-Africa?&id=101144)
SOUTH AFRICA IN PROPHECY (http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=book&id=1296)
Black to Africa (Facing the Crisis in Black America) (http://ezinearticles.com/?Black-to-Africa&id=283285)
Black Mark on Toledo (http://ezinearticles.com/?Black-Mark-on-Toledo&id=101139)
Diversity Demands: Segregate Now! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Diversity-Demands:-Segregate-Now!&id=280116)
A Warning For America From South Africa (http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Warning-For-America-From-South-Africa&id=255170)
Black Racists Slaughter Whites in South Africa - Where's the Outrage? (http://ezinearticles.com/?Black-Racists-Slaughter-Whites-in-South-Africa---Wheres-the-Outrage?&id=251141)
Martin Luther King Day? (http://ezinearticles.com/?Martin-Luther-King-Day?&id=129123)
Race Matters (http://ezinearticles.com/?Race-Matters&id=101706)
Chocolate Continent Awaits the Great Black Return! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Chocolate-Continent&id=130532)
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Don't blame okra Winfrey.
You don't have to go to south Africa to see white girls get turned away from schools you can see that right in this country, remember affirmative action in our schools.
Also Oprah knows that it is useless to open a school here because these monkeys are just too stupid to learn, so she figured to give new little monkeys a chance maybe the world would have better luck with this bunch.
The rest is politics and should have nothing to do with her opening a school, why blame the children. So if Bush wants to open a new school what should we do?, he's murdering our service men and women in a useless war.
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I agree with you JB as well the other posters on the other side of the coin. One too must think about the $40 million dollar "contrabution" will be worked by her Tax Lawyers and financial accountants toward her year end position on her billion. She'll probably get a refund to boot. Personally, I ask myself why she chose South Africa and not Senegal, Sierra Leone, Cameroon or Namibia but the wealthiest of all African States where there actually are Whites? Perhaps, she did wish to throw it in the faces of ol-whitey with the Communist Shvartza heading South Africa? If it was to really be for blacks the rest of the Black African nations are in much more need of aid, not AIDS, than South Africa. Oprah is a fat bigot pig who only got to where she is today thanks to people like Stephen Speilberg and Ol-Whitey wishing for an Affirmitive Blaction Feminist host. She's a pig, pure and simple although my sister had stated that Debbie Schlussel was wrong that there are a few white kids attending her school...although I don't know....
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Debbie Schlussel is a racist sack of poo. Oprah can do whatever she wants with her money. If she doesn't like it then she should put up her own money.
Joan Rivers and Phyllis Diller are rich white Jewish women who have never done anything for anyone except themselves, wasting tons and tons of money on awful plastic surgery and gawdy jewelry. I'll bet neither one of them has given money to Israel. Why isn't Ms. Schlussel up in arms about that? Debbie Schlussel is fairly wealthy herself. How many little goyish whites girls is she spending her hard earned money on to help?
Considering all the poor white trailer trash she's doled out loot on her show, as nasty as you white racists react to her I wouldn't blame her if she never gave another white person the time of day.
I happen to agree with your views on Joan Rivers and Phyllis Diller although I have never researched it personally. You could say the same about Stephen Speilberg or Noam Chomsky which doesn't offend me. If you are going to label one a racist please make sure you use it in the proper context. If those white trailer park trash lowers themselves to go to her show or watch it on television to hear hate Ol-Whitey, poke fun at uncle toms, black glorification, male bashing then Oprah deserves every penny for her work since all honest work is righteous no matter what color ones skin happens to be. Good for her! As for giving away money....MOST.....at that level do not do it out of pure kindness but out of a tax position. I actually feel it very good that Oprah gave from her own money because it is better than the never ending "wealth transfer" we tax payers HAVE to pay for. Good for her! I'm 100% for private charity and belive that all foreign aid should be ended.
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What exactly is "black glorification"? How is it any different from all of that flag-waving, red state, patriotic middle-American diarreaha we've been inundated with over the last six years or so?
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Black glorification is much like be kind and say nice things about your pet day. You see liberal whites and some blacks who consider themselves an honoary white, such as hoprah and bill cosby, they love to point out the extraordinary members of the species. Say, for instance when they find a black male that can recite all the words to martin lucifer king's (hey, where be them ho's and don't forget the gin) 'I gots the dream' speech', or can keep his pants up and tie his 'sneaks', they consider this a major intellectural achievement. Liberal whites in the 1980s used to walk around with a roll of nickels to dispearse to little africanus new yorkus who amused the liberals by break dancing on a piece of cardboard laid out on the sidewalk. This is negro glorification. You really see negro glorification in academia. Take for instance Bill (let me fell you up after I drug you) Cosby. Bill Cosby never finished high school but he paid 20 million dollars to the diploma mill known as temple university where they awarded him a BA, MA and a Ph.D for the cartoon he made called fat albert. Take also the crack pot , now dead, john henrick clark, everyone called him dr. clark when he never even received a ba. How many times have you heard the term rev. dr. By african glorification, these are word of mouth degrees that are given to the most illiterate of the species to make them feel good. If you need to know more about african glorification, ask the nearest black crack head you see, he call himself a pharmacist. Get the picture.
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I think so. That's sort like claiming Jessica Lynch and Pat Tilman are war Heros, NASCAR being a real sport, and that whites like Elvis have "Blue-Eyed Soul". Our troops in Iraq are defending our freedom against Iraqi insurgents. These things are all contrived for the edification of white self-esteem.
On the other side of the coin is white victimhood. The fact still remains that there are a greater percentage of whites in this country who will still do absolutely nothing of any significance with their lives, since the very same victimized whites are quick to whine and dehumanize blacks with racist slander all the while boasting prilvilege and status that they themselves never had to exert any effort of their own to obtain.
If you don't believe me, just ask the nearest white methhead you see.
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I think so. That's sort like claiming Jessica Lynch and Pat Tilman are war Heros, NASCAR being a real sport, and that whites like Elvis have "Blue-Eyed Soul". Our troops in Iraq are defending our freedom against Iraqi insurgents. These things are all contrived for the edification of white self-esteem.
On the other side of the coin is white victimhood. The fact still remains that there are a greater percentage of whites in this country who will still do absolutely nothing of any significance with their lives, since the very same victimized whites are quick to whine and dehumanize blacks with racist slander all the while boasting prilvilege and status that they themselves never had to exert any effort of their own to obtain.
If you don't believe me, just ask the nearest white methhead you see.
I agree that Nascar isn't a sport. As a matter of fact it is just as brainless as basketball or as enlightening as that rap-hip/hop degeneracy. Whites fighting in Iraq is for "White self-esteem"? Examples of "White self-esteem" are the billions of dollars spent in "foreign aid" to the empoverished Black African Turd World because they haven't been able to accomplish a single thing on their own for the past 2 million years. I assume that this is somehow that is the fault of Ol-Whitey? I wonder if Oprah could have accomplished all that she had or became as successful as she is in Namibia? I doubt they'd of had the inginuity to invent fire if it wasn't for Sir Henry Stanley's quest to find explorer "Dr. Livingstone, I presume?" Your humane and civilized African brethren were still eating each other up until the last century. ""White self-esteem" is the continual incomparable levels of white charity given to black schools, black neighborhoods and black social programs in hope they will continue the advancement for themselves... Sadly, in most cases this is not so. Chester, PA. is a great example of how a nice community DIED! "White self-esteem" is the granting of masses of Affirmative Action, Quota systems and every conceivable "progressive" legislation to help the African-American community....might I add that all of these programs are discriminatory on solely race. That sounds fair and non-racist. "White self-esteem" is marching with blacks during the civil rights movements and getting every major city burned down as a thanks. "White self-esteem" is the continual dumbing down of the entire educational system and catering to ebonics to "level" the playing field and "elevate" the blacks. "White self-esteem" is the massive aid sent to New Orleans because George Bush and Ol-Whitey caused the flood so they have to open their pockets to feed your bitching and moaning with every conceivable handout there is to be used for sex changes, liquor, crack and abortions. Come on dude, take your head out of your ass. I might take this moment to mention my Mother's Dr. friends who VOLUNTEERED to go down and help "poor black folk" and who were MURDERED by these shvartza animals as a "Thank you for your kindness, time and medical assistance". I noticed that there were no handouts, bitching, moaning, FEMA task forces, media nor ANY murders in Colorado last week? I wonder why? I won't lower myself to entertain your "white victimhood" remark. That was just inept and unfounded to say the least. I agree with my friend....who happens to be a black woman....2% are righteous the rest....SIHT!
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One point of correction, the africans are still eating each other. If you read the reports from the congo and the other hell holes that black tribes fight it out, you will see reports of cannibalism. The BBC has reported it along with several observers. This is a quaint african custom that is also practiced in Borneo. I remember when Nelson Rockefeller's son was eating by these people. As a matter of fact, there is a large number of primitives in borneo that have suffered from 'mad cow disease' which is cause by eating brain particles. Cows get it due to the fact that when their feed is ground up so of the brain matter is mixed in by mistake. I do agree that nascar is dumb, it is nothing but amusement for the feeble minded. Madonna and the 'in crowd' are nothing but very low IQ whites with a tremendous amount of guilt. The 'educational' system has been so dumbed down that not even the whites with a borderline IQ have a chance to compete. I go to a city college, where I see the africans listen to their walkmen, i-pods etc in class. The teachers are so frightened of these primitives since they well understand the primitives genetic tendencies to resort to violence. This does not make them 'bad' per se, but this is what all lower forms of anthropoids resort to. It is their instinct. At City Colleges they have tried everything to try and make the blacks, especially males of the species, to succeed, but alas, it is a mission impossible. One thing they did do however, which shows progress is to institute a degree program in 'Entertainment Technology' which uses the inherent instinctive traits of the africans, such as dancing and rapping. They are able to attain a AAS degree. There are also whites in the program, marilyn masion wanna bes, it is said but it seems to be the only way that these poor genetic deficiantes can deal with.
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Kananga Bonanga, another ugly monkey hypocritical idiot.
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fjack.....thank you again for making me laugh. It is very much appreciated. To tell you the truth I have total contempt for sub-human garbage....black, white, arab, asian and even....sadly....Marxist Judenrot. What you say about shvartza's is...sad...but very true. The only people who do not see this are the dumbed down rationalizing liberal and the hate filled stupified shvartzas themselves. The post about Rockefeller's son....that was fabulous....
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I agree that Nascar isn't a sport. As a matter of fact it is just as brainless as basketball or as enlightening as that rap-hip/hop degeneracy. Whites fighting in Iraq is for "White self-esteem"?
No, believing that OUR TROOPS are fighting in Iraq to DEFEND AMERICAN FREEDOM is a myth perpetuated by O'Whitey Bush and his amen chorus to pacify the angst of all the conservatives who have been supporters, and provide cover for all the right wingnuts who just want to spill Arab blood.
You like to ramble on and on about the affairs of blacks as if their actions have some direct impact on the way you live. I don't believe that anyone is trying to eat you Marzutra. I personally do not know any cannibals, black or white, and I don't think you do either. You make it seem as if every black person who has made something of themselves is because of a handout or some guilt-ridden white person wanting a black pet or AA decoration. It's these over-exaggerated notions that exist soley for the purpose of white self-esteem.
I can honestly say that I've never benefitted or have been hindered by Affirmative Action no more than any of my white male peers. I've never been scared to compete with anyone for anything. If I can't make the cut then I'll go to the end of the line and wait my turn again. I won't make excuses. But if I do make the cut then I'll take my rightful place in front, rejecting any excuse made to the contrary. So how convenient is it for you or some other white person to discredit me by attributing these beliefs just by virtue of my race?
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I think so. That's sort like claiming Jessica Lynch and Pat Tilman are war Heros, NASCAR being a real sport, and that whites like Elvis have "Blue-Eyed Soul". Our troops in Iraq are defending our freedom against Iraqi insurgents. (These things are all contrived for the edification of white self-esteem.)
On the other side of the coin is white victimhood. The fact still remains that there are a greater percentage of whites in this country who will still do absolutely nothing of any significance with their lives, since the very same victimized whites are quick to whine and dehumanize blacks with racist slander all the while boasting prilvilege and status that they themselves never had to exert any effort of their own to obtain.
If you don't believe me, just ask the nearest white methhead you see.
No you made it sound like the war is a way for whites to feel better about them selfs....some how.
You have a point with the rest of what you said, but what gets me is the out look you have your self on white privilege, and what is that?
The privilege to be seen as a power hungry,corporate owning,child molesting(only "white" men do this),woman ruling,woman raping,slave owning,war mongering,nature destroying,crusader,native killing,land stealing,worlds most hated monster?
You, can not deny the fact that when "white male" pops into anybody head who is not said person that not one of thouse stereotype dose not pop into there head?
The stereotyping gos both ways, but I'm sure you already know that...what ever keeping the topic balanced.
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Re: "...If you don't believe me, just ask the nearest white methhead you see..."
I just did exactly that.
I stopped this wired-out white guy with rotted teeth.
He said that everything white people did, including meth lab construction far out in the woods, was an act of high technological achievement; beyond the abilities of lesser races.
As for the Iraqi engagement, the meth-head stated that it is an act of divine love to help exterminate the insect races, because they love death and killing so much that American forces are showing them the best way to go about having a hobby. The good white soldiers are usually upset afterwards and feel bad about themselves, because of the lower than expected insect body counts.
So...the original poster has clearly missed the point!
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What for real?
You went out and found a meth head and ask him this stuff?!?! :o
Were the heck do you live!?
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The sorry gas-huffing evil SOB is from some podunk town in Western Kentucky.
(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2006/07/03/PH2006070301269.jpg)
"Several soldiers allegedly planned the attack over drinks after noticing the woman near the traffic checkpoint they manned in Mahmudiyah, according to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Kentucky. The soldiers allegedly worked out an elaborate plan to carry out the crime and then cover it up, wearing dark clothes to the home, using an AK-47 assault rifle from the house to kill the family, and allowing authorities to believe that the attack was carried out by insurgents, investigators said.
Former Pfc. Steven D. Green, 21, and other members of 1st Platoon, B Company, 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, allegedly carried out the crimes on March 12. Several soldiers told authorities that Green killed all four people and that he and another soldier raped the young woman"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/03/AR2006070301206.html
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003530237
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These GIs are in a combat position. The USA government is a politically correct piece of garbage. When we used to fight wars, if one of our people were killed we would go out and kill every single man, woman and child in that filthy sub human turd world slum. Our politicians are so traitorous that they do not want to fight a total war. As far as I am concerned these soldiers are heros. When the riots broke out in LA the cops should have started shooting every single africanus californiaus in sight. It is time that this political correctness has ended. Round up all muslims and give them 24 hours to leave the country or else, round up the illegals turd world wonders and give them 24 hours to leave town. This is a start, now we go to the africans, after the africans pay us our reparations for the trillions and trillions of dollars that we have given them through welfare, food stamps, aid to their low IQ crack beasts, the money we have given them for AIDS, the special ed for their idiot moron bipeds, the amount of affrimative action programs that we have given them. After the africans have paid us back, then they are free to go to the motherland where they can make that a better place to live. Africa has not contributed anything to western civilization, or any civilization for that matter. Every where you are turns into a filthy hell hole. The sad fact is that you and your kind are too ignorant to comprehend it. Look at Detroit, philly, New orleans, the ravages of black savagery. You belong in a place where you are airdropped malt liquor, crack, DVDs of louie farafarrt, a massive collection of rap videos, mac and cheese, do rags and a velvet portrait of martin lucifer king asking for a ho and another bottle of gin. I am sure that is your dream.
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Well that fits the sterotype!
This soilder like him should have there wilkins cut off and should never see the light of day. >:(
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Fjack "turd world wonders" :D
Oh that was a good one, now I,m angry and laughing at the same time!
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You belong in a place where you are airdropped malt liquor, crack, DVDs of louie farafarrt, a massive collection of rap videos, mac and cheese, do rags and a velvet portrait of martin lucifer king asking for a ho and another bottle of gin. I am sure that is your dream.
And don't forget da' white wimmons! lol! Send that phony journalist skank Debbie Schlussel, along with her bigoted blogs, Oprah obsession, and twenty tons of clown makeup caked on her face. She could stand having a few soul brother turned loose on her funky ass.
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Dear kangaroo, you are so clever. I have seen the white hos that go after the africans. You can have them. They are no use to anyone but you and your kind. Talk about pigs, take a look at that hoprah. She is admitted whore, and admittted crack head, and she will not allow any one of her staff talk about her. She is a typical black cow. If it weren't for guilt ridden white trash, she would be walking the streets and givin' it up for 2 dollars since she is such an ugly dumb sow. You seem to get upset with the truth. Why is that? Have the posters here rang a bell? Have you looked in the mirror lately and asked, "what is wrong with my people?", "why do they do the things they do, destroy neighborhoods, destroy their families, and blame everyone else but themselves". I do feel for your people. I want to establish high tech reservations where you can all be collected and be dropped all the crack, smack, grass, malt liquor, cheap wine, and mac and cheese you want free of charge. The white man will build tremoundous tv screens that wil blast the vilest gansta videos 24 hours a day free of charge, we will make you a faux white village, where, when the urge strikes you, you can raid and pillage. It will be supplied with fully stocked liquor stores, cd stores and stores loaded with the biggerst speakers in the world, state of the art. You will all receive the directors cuts of screwy louie farafrats speeches, the DVD of 'don't snithc', every single plagarised speech of 'i done be lovin' my gin and wimmenzz', marty lucifer king. We will even build a cadillac shape youth center along with an unguarded chichen coup for you southerners. Don't you think that will satify your need for reparations.
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I want to establish high tech reservations where you can all be collected and be dropped all the crack, smack, grass, malt liquor, cheap wine, and mac and cheese you want free of charge. The white man will build tremoundous tv screens that wil blast the vilest gansta videos 24 hours a day free of charge, we will make you a faux white village, where, when the urge strikes you, you can raid and pillage. It will be supplied with fully stocked liquor stores, cd stores and stores loaded with the biggerst speakers in the world, state of the art. You will all receive the directors cuts of screwy louie farafrats speeches, the DVD of 'don't snithc', every single plagarised speech of 'i done be lovin' my gin and wimmenzz', marty lucifer king. We will even build a cadillac shape youth center along with an unguarded chichen coup for you southerners. Don't you think that will satify your need for reparations.
Sure. Call it "New Zimbabwe". I'll be the Robert Mugabe to your Cecil Rhodes. Just remember to drop of Schlussel and enough white wimmins along with the rest of the party favors. You know the Shona like to do it "Black on Blondes" style! :P
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BTW, what happened to GTHS?
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I'm not even going to get in on this one. I can feel my IQ start to slip.... I'm sure fjack you meant Pontiac and not Cadillac ;)
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wow....wow......this was one weird trip! :o
Crazyness! ::)
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I watched the self hater anderson cooper who did a whole one hour on oprah's school and low and behold there was one white girl. She was very ugly with braces on her teeth. I was under the assumption that braces were expensive. I am sure one day we will see this white creature on jerry springer.
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I'm not even going to get in on this one. I can feel my IQ start to slip.... I'm sure you mean Pontiac and not Cadillac ;)
Have you tried taking a laxitive? How about an enema?
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Wow, that was a very intellectually inspired statement. Actually, I think it is good for Oprah to have all or mostly blacks in her schools. I'd not want my children there anyway. I think the collapse of the American Academia to cater to shvartzas is a very good example of why NOT to place your child in the school.
I did actually like the one about you being Robert Mugabe.... What a highly esteemed comparison and a very fitting example of a righteous black African leader.... There is a very good chapter in the book "The History of Torture" - Daniel P. Mannix which describes the civilized African cultures up until the turn of the 20th century, but some argue that it still exists in some black African nations…. The Nigerian one was very informative when children were cared for by the state/king, spoiled and treated like a royalty until reaching a teenager. The young person is raised “without blemish” to take part in the advanced annual festivities consisting of a "human sacrifice parades” where the end of their parade celebrations led them to a most violent end, cannibalism, drinking of blood etc. while the blood continually drains into a large smelly cesspool “deep enough to float a small boat...”.
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Hey, fjack started it. It it some unwritten rule that white guys are the only ones who are allowed to have fun here?
Anyway, I though you weren't going to make me "climb that mountain"?? :P
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How come you have a book called "The History of Torture"? I'm not afraid of you Marzutra, but maybe I should be? :o ;)
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If you are a black man whom wishes to come and make positive contributions that's fine but if you wish to come here and insult people that is wholely another. If you ever read any of my posts you will see that I have nothing againsts righteous people of any race but I am not tolerant of intolerance. I'm not open minded to closed mindedness. Certainly not ingnorant insults, immoralty nor criminality....... This is perhaps why I feel the majority of blacks are not righteous people but very primitive and criminal which one can plainly see via their revolting deeds...
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So what of fjack, and the other idiot who called me a monkey? And your "P.O.N.T.I.A.C" crack. What's that all about?? Is that not insults directly at me?
Seems you guys can dish it out but you cant take it.
Politically, I am a centrist. I support Israel and the determination of the Jewish people. But I don't support racism or bigotry, so if G-d's chosen cannot rise above it all to establish His kingdom then it's downfall will be of our own doing. So you're right.. I'm not here just to agree with all the member's here. I'm here to fully participate.
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We are like Joe Friday in the old dragnet tv series. 'Just the facts ma'am'. We tend to speak from experience and from what books and studies that we read. When you deal with us try and come armed with an intellectural defense or offense to make your point. Just because you 'think' something is true, doesn't mean it is true. I make sure that I have read what my enemies have written and I even question what some authors of the 'right' say. You cannot ignore facts, if africa is a basket case, that is what it is, and if you are dumb enough to think that an air head such as bono is going to fix it then there is no hope for you at all. We may argue with each other, but we do not use personal insults unless we get a real smart ass and then we will let them have it. I for one will not be politically correct, cultural sensitve or a phoney. I won't use foul language to make my point since I believe that that is nothing but an easy way to avoid of making cogent argument. So if you or anyone else wants to take us on, you are more than welcomed. Just be sure that you can take the heat without losing your cool. Ta, ta for now!
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The fact of the matter ALL of our statements SOLELY apply to the NON-Righteous portion of the black community....NOT the righteous blacks. Cosmo is a supreme example of a righteous black man... It is not our fault that the vast majority of the black community, even now large sections of the white and other communities have embraced this black sub-human "urban" culture of crime, drugs, sex/rape, filth and deprevity.
If you are a righteous black man you will see the difference between shvartzas and blacks, Wiggers/trailer park garbage and whites and of course Kikes and Jews. "Those who are kind to the cruel, in the end will be cruel to the kind" - Qohelet Raba 7:16.
There is a very big difference. The EVIL deserve NO respect nor any whitewashing of their evilness..... This includes Socialist Judenrot scum. I hope I have approached this the proper way and presented it logically to you.
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Its would be safe to guess said guy kanaga is not a evil nut case!
I sometimes wounder.....
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everybody lets just take it down a notch, as I've said before we can disagree without it becoming personal.
Kononga, may I ask you a few questions?
Could you explain your views more thoroughly? I also oppose racism and bigotry from anyone, and I am not against Arabs because their Arabs, but I am against them because the vast majority of Arabs wish harm to the Jewish people. As for Africa and blacks I dont judge them as a group but most African nations and most blacks support people who wish to perpetrate another holocaust.
I recall you mentioning you are Jewish and I'd like to ask everyone to remember all Jews are brothers so lets debate ideas not throw insults.
How did you find this forum?
Since your Jewish how religious are you?
Have you ever learned the Mishne Torah? Because in Hilchot Melachim the rules of war are set down and they include the precept that we fight nations not individuals.
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I was "googling" for jewish stuff one day and I remember finding the homepage first. I admit I was a bit taken back by all of the anti black propaganda, but at the same time it also made me very curious. I had heard of the Rabbi Meir Kahane before, but never knew that he and his supporters though of Black Americans as the enemy of Jews. All I can say is that it made me very curious, and I wanted to understand why. The thought sort of troubled me that I could be in shul Saturday morning bowing in unison during Aleinu with a bunch of guys who are only tolerating me for the sake of having an occasional AA decoration.
I originally joined on here as Yochanan Zev. I may have spent a month or so exploring the site before I actually decided to post a reply.
As far as other my conversations with other blacks go, well I would always speak up against unfounded criticism against Jews. So much so that people don't ever discuss these things with me, unless it's something they know I would defend. You are correct in that many blacks who are not knowlegable of the events and history of Israel identify with the Arabs who identify as Palestinians because they see the Jews as white oppresors and occupiers. A quick looking over much of the material on this site does little to dispell their claims.
I also get frustrated and angry at these unyielding types who insist on living in the past. By virtue of being Black and Jewish, I'm a natural outcast. A lone wolf. I honestly don't care about acceptance anymore, for in order to have peace with myself so I can do my best work I've learned to embrace my outsider status. My allegiances go beyond matters of race and religion but to try as much as I can to do what's right. I can only be but so lucky to have the opportunity to stand up, so the time is now to seize that opportunity. Having said that I believe that the Palestinians missed out, and will continue to miss out because of the unyielding desire to remain locked in the past, failure to seize opportunity, and to finally relinquish those paradigms that only serve to keep them stuck in a state of disempowerment. The same can be said for other groups including blacks, latinos, appalachian whites, and in some ways even Jews. And talk about dumbing yourself down, I never could see the sense in responding to hate with hate. I would like to stay above the fray so that I'm aware of the possiblities that opportunity may present so me, lest I allow myself to get pulled down with those who only know how to respond to hatred.
As far as the Mishnah Torah, I've only studied the Laws of Repentance which I'll read at the beginning of Elul. So I can't say I'm familiar with the section you are referring to.
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In all honesty JTF is unique in their attitudes towards Blacks, most Kahanists do not care either way about the Black community in particular, but rather are hostile to whoever is the enemy of the Jewish people.
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Karanga, I agree with what you said in your fourth paragraph. That is what we have been saying for years. When, someone such as I tell the brutal truth, it is like I am using shock treatment. If a person does not want to improve their situation, then they are not a person, they are someone that walks around, blaming everyone for their own dowmfalls, for their inability to attain and just want to blame everyone and everything for the mess they made of their lives, There might be some hope for you yet.
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Karanga, I agree with what you said in your fourth paragraph. That is what we have been saying for years. When, someone such as I tell the brutal truth, it is like I am using shock treatment. If a person does not want to improve their situation, then they are not a person, they are someone that walks around, blaming everyone for their own dowmfalls, for their inability to attain and just want to blame everyone and everything for the mess they made of their lives, There might be some hope for you yet.
Can I second fjack's post. Thank you Kananga for the clarification. I try to debate with logic, knowledge and try not to insult. When I was writing above about the African culture, I speak of documented fact that I always try to list with specific readings for others on JTF to fact check. I am not against you, personally, at all. Not whatsoever. I am against this criminal degeneracy that is promulgated 24/7 within this deprave rap/hip hop garbage and pseudo-culture that has mushroomed from it that advocates crime, dumbing down and criminality. To tell you the truth I had not known you were Jewish but just another person wishing to come on and argue, label and digress the atmosphere on the JTF Forum. A supreme example is that the Black Community hold Martin Luther King as the be all and end all for Blackness in America but if one actually researches him he plagiarized the vast majority of his works, dissertation and speeches. King was a card carrying member of the Communist Party of America and was linked to many Fabian Socialist organization like the ACLU and the NAACP. He should be condemned by the Blacks not loved. Unlike Kahaneloyalist, I am against single people as well as groups as long as they advocate the worse things or directly attack the righteous Jews. I am not against Arabs but Islam since Islam specifically advocates the conversion, slavery/exploitation or death of any non-Muslim. I believe there is hope for everyone and it is their free will that lets them choose to TRY to be righteous or TRY to be scum. Welcome aboard.
Oh, one thing. There are no "Palestine", "Palestinians" nor "The West Bank it is all one big terrible anti-Semitic/anti-Israel and anti Western attack pure and simple…
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To tell you the truth I had not known you were Jewish but just another person wishing to come on and argue, label and digress the atmosphere on the JTF Forum. A supreme example is that the Black Community hold Martin Luther King as the be all and end all for Blackness in America but if one actually researches him he plagiarized the vast majority of his works, dissertation and speeches. King was a card carrying member of the Communist Party of America and was linked to many Fabian Socialist organization like the ACLU and the NAACP. He should be condemned by the Blacks not loved.
You have a right to your opinion Marzutra. What MLK is commended for is his advocacy for civil rights and committment to justice. Not only for blacks, but for everyone. The fact is that many synagogues and churches will be commemorate his life and accomplishments this weekend, whether he may have borrowed language in his speech, or had so many white girlfriends. Blacks and whites, who may have not otherwise come together on other occasions will do so this weekend.
He wasn't perfect, and no one is pretending that he was. But the man did good work anyway. You can find negatives about most people if you dig hard enough.
With that, it's time for me to go home, light candles, crack open the Baron Herzog and delve into some Torah. Good Shabbes.
I know it will be hard, but try to enjoy the day off anyway.
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Ironically enough I am working monday :'(
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Ironically enough I am working monday :'(
I am also! Its just a regular work day anyway!
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michael king, his real name, is a vile creature that was a liar, a whore monger, white and Jew hater, a plagarist and a commie. He left a string of girlfriends all over the country, one belonged to the senate of louisana, I happened to see an interview with her on tony brown's journel many years ago. When will the government release his records. what are they hiding? This animal inspired a riot every where he went to. By saying, I don't believe in VIOLENCE, I do not want to see you revert to VIOLENCE, I be opposed to VIOLENCE, what do think these low IQ massives will revert to ______________VIOLENCE! This is an old tried and try commie type of indoctrination. There is nothing new here. It is also interesting to know the true feelings of Ghandi regarding his black bros in South Africa. Google his name and you will find out that he no use for the blacks at all. I think it would be a good way of MLK day to have all the prostitues to give away for his memory, all liqour stores give away free booze on his day and all students that were caught plagarizing be given a free ride in his honor.
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Shavouah tov everyone. I agree with you fjack 100%. Here is another one of my longer responses to clearify any ineptitudes surrounding this Black Arafat.
Yes, we are all allowed to have our own opinions. Most of the time, I am not interested in opinions but only facts. If you are a Jew it would not be right to admire a Communist because Judaism and Communism are at direct odds and are, in fact, enemies. People like Martin Luther King would be considered Amelek in Judaism, though the immense propaganda has built them up to be icons. Luther's and his like ilk's own ideologies (communism/international socialism) demands the vanquishing of G-d, religion, morality, nationality, culture etc. Peoples, and the followers of peoples, like Martin Luther King are directly responsible for the murders/death of between 100 and 150 million people in Cuba, Russia, Poland, Ukrane, Lithewania, Latvia, Estonia, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, China, Cambodia, Laos, the Middle East, Africa and South America; all of modern history. King didn’t “borrow” what King did is actually theft. King became a “Pastor” at some Baptist Church in Alabama which is about as farsical as "Rev" Jesse Jackoff. What can a Communist, who believes G-d should be VANQUISHED contribute to ANY church but molested/Communist abominations and direct subversions/attacks on Christianity and G-d. He and Rosa Parks were not heroes as the Socialist media continually propagates, they were directly connected, organized, promoted and funded by the highly organized Communist and socialist movements/parties of America and used as pawns to push the Socializing/Communizing agenda. You should know that those same peoples and organizations are the SAME ones who fully support the so-called "Palestinian People" and the vanquishing of Aretz Israel. Research on The British Fabian Society will satisfy this statement emphatically.
The fact of the matter is, what King had done might well have been seen as a “righteous” deed by the black community, but was it? What was the outcome? I’d say the black communities and the white communities still suffer to this day from him and his likeness, reckless actions. After his protest in Washington there were more racial battles, after Kennedy’s forced desegregation of the school system there was more friction, a direct negative effect on performance of both the Blacks and the Whites and the start of the continual collapsing and communizing of American Education in its entirety. The Blacks were far more educated and civilized prior to desegregation than they are today. South Africa is another good overly distorted example with pre and post apartheid. The result of Kennedy’s, and even Lyndon B. Johnson’s, racial catering led to mass lootings, murders and the burning down of almost every major city center in America. Lyndon Johnson stated, and quite accurately so, that “Martin Luther King Jr. was a hypocrite preacher.” Thanks to King and his Socialist/Communist ilk in Britain’s Fabian Society, America’s ACLU, NAACP ect. brought the SCLC and the violence committed by Malcolm X and his distorted followers, the Marxist Black Panther Group and the entire murderous Black Power movement which raped, robbed and murdered Jews which gave rise to Rabbi Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, and his Jewish Defense League: JDL.
The only “Jews” and “Synagogues” that would admire Martin Luther King are the Reform “Jews”. Since Reform “Judaism” isn’t Judaism at all but a Socialist/Pagan/New Age Cult of Judenrot which was also founded by Bundist/Communist Abraham Geiger in 1841 "To Eliminate the Opiate” from within. “Rabbi” Geiger was directly responsible for molesting of the Torah, Tanach, Talmud and committing mass institutional digression of Judaism through his Reform “Temples” and “Yeshivas”. One can directly see why these ineptitudes and evils such as “Pro choice”, “gay marriage” mass intermarriage, and mass assimilation infect the Reform and “Conservative” movements and why they would support such a hypocrite as Martin Luther King Jr..
Yes it is your choice to honor, propagate or admire anyone, any ideology and any deed you see fit but be informed that Martin Luther King was an enemy of Judaism and the Jewish people…. Fact, not opinion; Yahuda HaMaccabee and his fight against these Hellenist/Seleucid creatures in 165BCE and Marzutra II’s battled them in “enlightened” Babylonia for Jewish independence and Judaism as a religion in 520AD, the mass excommunications and molestations of/in Judaism of so-called “Messiahs”, “Rabbis” and distorted “Utopian” so-called Jews with their immense damage to Judaism and Jewry since the 1600’s: Shabbatai Tzvi, Jacob Frank, Moses Mendelssohn , Abraham Geiger, Isaac Mayer Wise, Stephen Wise…..Henry Kissenger etc..
“Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.” – George Santayana or as Davkakach would state: “Kindness becomes a crime when applied to the cruel.” – Thomas Mann.
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Wow, Marzutra I never knew Martin King was such a fellow, I always taught he to be a good man period.
Now Melcome X always knew was a beast, but martin king and communism ect?
Can you be kind and point to more proof of th facts on this topic besides The British Fabian Society?
Its not that I mayself don't believe you, but I would like to see more of your sources, I wont lie i find this rather intriguing to tell the truth.
Thanks.
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Wow, Marzutra I never knew Martin King was such a fellow, I always taught he to be a good man period.
Now Melcome X always knew was a beast, but martin king and communism ect?
Can you be kind and point to more proof of th facts on this topic besides The British Fabian Society?
Its not that I mayself don't believe you, but I would like to see more of your sources, I wont lie i find this rather intriguing to tell the truth.
Thanks.
Absolutely, if you want a glimpse of Martin Luther King Jr. from a leftwing source, you can just go to Wikipedia which displays his association with the Communist party. If you look up Ms. Parks you will too see this from a left wing source. If you want to read about how the Communist movement uses blacks and front groups; "Peace", "Freedom", "Democracy", "Human Rights" etc. Louis Bodens "The Techniques of Communism". Rose Martin's "Fabian Freeway, the High Road to Socialism in America" along with John. T. Flynn's "The Decline of the American Republic" also chats about this. You can just as well go on Google and type in "Martin Luther King Junior Communist" and you will get a slew of hits. The fact is, he was a card carrying member of the Communist party, was aided, funded and directed by them with their socialist brethren to use the blacks to push the Marxist agenda. Just like Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, a righteous black man, speaks out agaisnt Socialist scum like "Rev" Jesse Jackoff....in his book "SCAM" King would be in the same boat if alive today. A sham pure and simple to both the Righteous Black Community and the Righteous White Community. Placing a statue of a black communist in Washington is comparable to spitting in the faces of the founding fathers considering your consitution was explicitely written so that the ideology that King professed to would never become LEGAL in America.
To learn about Communism/Socialism one must read it from the source: "Communist Manifesto", "Republic", "Utopia" and most probable the "New Age" garbage by Madam Blavatsky or Alice Bailey as well due to it having many things in common with political communism. If you should read a very accurate book about the history of Communism: "The Black Book of Communism" - S. Courtois. Should you wish the tactics, aside from Bodenz, "New Lies for Old" - Anatoly Golitsyn. And if one wants to know who is behind the spread of Socialism/Communism they should read: "The Anglo-American Establisment" or "Tragedy and Hope" both by Carroll Quigley (Leftist and appologist) or "The Naked Capitalist" - Cleon Skousen, "The Insiders" - J. MacMannus or "Shadows of Power" - J. Perloff from the Christian Right or from the Jewish Right Rabbi Marvin Antelman's "To Eliminate the Opiate" with "Perfidy"- Ben Hect although digressing from the origional topic: MLKjr with my apologies..
The funny thing is that Michael Savage speaks about the ACLU, NAACP and others all the time and has also related the same about King, Parks, the Black Panthers and others. I hope this helps, I have tons more should you wish.... You might also be informed of the movie "Roots" by Alex Haley was also a plagiarized sham for which he was sued over.... If you have any specific question I will surely be happy to supply refs.
PS: We are always taught that there is a "Palestinian People" and "Islam is a religion of peace"....doesn't much make it so... "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" - C.T. Iserbyte for the Marxitizing and "New Aging" of our Educational system and Oswald Spengler's 1926 prediction "The Decline of the West" vol. 2 specifically....the decline of the Christian West like Rome, Greece, Carthage, Sparta, Egypt.... A good book on the sponsors of Marxist and Islamic terrorism, although a bit dated but still applies to today's world is "The Terror Network" C. Stirling or even "Cold Terror" - S. Bell....is also ok.... The only thing, in my opinion that saved Old Whitey then is the Blacks weren't armed to the teeth like they are today....:'(