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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on May 21, 2008, 11:25:27 AM
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What i have learned is that it is a religion which was created to replace Islam. Muslims feel that Muhammed was the last prophet, but Bahaists believe some other Muslim guy that came later was the last prophet.
They do not believe in bearing arms.
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I don't like any form of Islam. Bahai have been persecuted by Muslims though.
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I have no idea who they are but since they are a sect of Islam they cant be good
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They have been persecuted and almost eliminated by Islam especially in Iran, mainly due to their firm belief of their founder Bahaullah being the next Prophet after Mo.
However they don't dare to go back and refresh their conversion drive at Iran or at any other muslamic country. Rather they eagerly try to convert other simpleton non-muslims to their Bahai faith.
The worst thing about them is that Mo is among their prophets, so actually they are a variant of Muslamics.
However it appears that they have never initiated or involved in any violence, albeit this may not override the Mo factor.
With Regards... :)
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Any form of Islam is terrible.
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They are genuinely pacifist and they refrain from proselytizing in Israel, they are even not allowed according to their rules to take permanent residence in Israel.
It's creepy that they actually consider Mo as a prophet, however they are not muslims, they are completely heretic to Islam since According to Mo himself he is the last of the prophets and no prophet would ever come after him.
Personally have some contempt to such religions which, I think, are mostly concerned in getting as many "donations" as they can from their flock. if I'm not mistaken they actually tax their community but since they keep to themselves I don't care.
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What i have learned is that it is a religion which was created to replace Islam. Muslims feel that Muhammed was the last prophet, but Bahaists believe some other Muslim guy that came later was the last prophet.
They do not believe in bearing arms.
What do you mean they do not believe in bearing arms.
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What about Sufis? Have they ever been violent at all?
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What i have learned is that it is a religion which was created to replace Islam. Muslims feel that Muhammed was the last prophet, but Bahaists believe some other Muslim guy that came later was the last prophet.
They do not believe in bearing arms.
What do you mean they do not believe in bearing arms.
they are pacifists has far as what i have read.
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What about Sufis? Have they ever been violent at all?
Sufi's are/were precursors of violent Islam. Firstly Sufi's influenced an outer area with their so-called peaceful methods and hymns. Then after passing a critical threshold, the Muslamic invaders attacked and massacred, plundered and captured the same area under some Islamic pretext or other. Whenever the retaliations occurred, the Sufi peaceful preachings again stood as a shield for protection of Islam.
Wherever and whenever Islam gets firm roots, Sufism automatically gets displaced by Talibanism and Bahabism types of extremists and terrorism.
In view of the above, Bahai's appear to be the grand-children of Sufi's.
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Any form of Islam is terrible.
Absolutely agreed
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This cult is dangerous!
The central ethic points of this "religion" are under others:
Creating one language for the world
Installing an international court for the world
Socialism
Never completed revelation: Religion is forever in development
World peace
etc.
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This sounds like the left wing of the "Democrat Party" ::)
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Their headquarters are in Israel, mount Carmel Haifa.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Bahá%27í_gardens_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/360px-Bahá%27í_gardens_by_David_Shankbone.jpg)
I would recommend the to-be-installed Kahanist Israeli government to expel this religion.
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What about Sufis? Have they ever been violent at all?
Sufi's are/were precursors of violent Islam. Firstly Sufi's influenced an outer area with their so-called peaceful methods and hymns. Then after passing a critical threshold, the Muslamic invaders attacked and massacred, plundered and captured the same area under some Islamic pretext or other. Whenever the retaliations occurred, the Sufi peaceful preachings again stood as a shield for protection of Islam.
Wherever and whenever Islam gets firm roots, Sufism automatically gets displaced by Talibanism and Bahabism types of extremists and terrorism.
In view of the above, Bahai's appear to be the grand-children of Sufi's.
I was watching some Youtube videos of the dervishes last night. I thought it was kind of neat but I knew there had to be a catch somewhere. A thought kept running through my mind "There are no moderate Muslims".
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Islam is Islam period
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Bahaism isn't a sect of Islam, it's a completely different religion. They believe in the validity of all religions, which is completely opposed to any version of Islam which believes that Islam is the true religion. They also believe in the equality of women and the cooperation of religion and science, which is the opposite of Islam. Bahai's aren't as bad as Muslims. Bahais are probably one of the most peaceful religious groups on the planet. Any comparison to actual Islamisists fails to recognize how bad Islam actually is, or fails to have sufficient knowledge of Bahaism to make a comparison.
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Bahaism isn't a sect of Islam, it's a completely different religion. They believe in the validity of all religions, which is completely opposed to any version of Islam which believes that Islam is the true religion. They also believe in the equality of women and the cooperation of religion and science, which is the opposite of Islam. Bahai's aren't as bad as Muslims. Bahais are probably one of the most peaceful religious groups on the planet. Any comparison to actual Islamisists fails to recognize how bad Islam actually is, or fails to have sufficient knowledge of Bahaism to make a comparison.
I tend to go with this point of view...since i don't know too much about the religion, despite the fact that it derived itself from Islam, doesn't allow me to judge it from a secular point of view.
However, whatever theology I know of it to have..I disagree with it.