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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mord on May 28, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
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The rule states no crosses or stars of David or menorahs ,how about moslem symbols
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65432
Secret plans under way to tear down Christian symbols
Army says chapel crosses violate policy
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Posted: May 27, 2008
9:06 pm Eastern
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Crosses at Peacekeeper's Chapel scheduled for removal.
U.S. soldiers stationed at Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo may be stunned to find three wooden crosses stripped from the exterior grounds of their chapel in coming weeks – and many never saw it coming.
Several high-ranking officers have met behind closed doors to discuss plans for the crosses. They have decided to remove, and perhaps destroy, the Christian symbols located outside Peacekeeper's Chapel in the name of free exercise of religion.
Lt. Col. William Jenkins, 35th Infantry Division's Kosovo Force 9 command chaplain, told WND, "The removal of the crosses … is bringing the chapel into line with long-standing regulations and policies that apply to every U.S. Army chapel around the world and that are supported by all faith groups in the U.S. Army."
Jenkins cited the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as validation for the cross removal, saying it guarantees every American the right to the free exercise of religion. He also referenced an Army directive that bans religious symbols from chapels:
Distinctive religious symbols, such as crosses, crucifixes, the Star of David, menorah, and other religious symbols, will not be affixed or displayed permanently on the chapel exterior or grounds. (Army Reg. 165-1, 13-3.d) Army chapels are also required to be devoid of religious symbols on furnishings, such as altars, pulpits and lecterns. me what about islamic symbols?
"This is not a new regulation and exists to protect the free exercise of religion of all soldiers," Jenkins said. "Army chapels are for all soldiers of all faith groups."
Following a secret vote, several officers decided to take down the crosses as part of a "relandscaping" project. Only one person present at the meeting voted against the measure.
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Soldiers say high-ranking officers have been secretive about plans for the crosses and have not made an official announcement to troops – leaving most in the dark about plans until the crosses have been removed.
Chaplain Corps. crest states, "Pro deo et patria" or "For G-d and country."
The crosses will be replaced with a stone monument engraved with the name of the chapel and the crest of U.S. Army Chaplain Corps, Jenkins said. At the time of this report, there were no indications of plans to notify soldiers of the decision.
Although the camp itself was named after Sgt. James Bondsteel, a soldier who earned the Medal of Honor in Vietnam, high-ranking Army personnel have also decided to remove a memorial plaque dedicated to fallen Chaplain Gordon Oglesby, who served and died in Kosovo, because it violates a policy against naming a chapel after a soldier.
One person stationed in Kosovo became concerned about freedom of religious expression in the military after WND reported the Army deliberately shut down a chaplain's Baptist service at Forward Operating Base Loyalty in Iraq. The soldier expressed agitation at a perceived double standard after an American sniper accused of shooting a Quran for target practice faced disciplinary action and removal from Iraq for desecrating the religious property.
"It is very discouraging as a Christian soldier to see our Army punish him for destroying a Quran, but then it pays a private company to destroy some crosses," the soldier said. "I feel it is a slap in the face to me, my Lord and my freedom."
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I, as a Calvinist Christian, am not in favour of crosses, pictures etc. in churches, but here is in fact a double standard. Other christian denominations have crosses in their churches and I think they are the vast majority of Christians.
It is about freedom of faith. We are in danger of introducing different levels of freedom of faith and Christians and Jews will be in this system on the last grade. :(
This is real selfhate. >:(
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I, as a Calvinist Christian, am not in favour of crosses, pictures etc. in churches, but here is in fact a double standard. Other christian denominations have crosses in their churches and I think they are the vast majority of Christians.
It is about freedom of faith. We are in danger of introducing different levels of freedom of faith and Christians and Jews will be in this system on the last grade. :(
This is real selfhate. >:(
Yes i agree i don'nt even know where the star of David comes from,but i think there are secret reasons for taking this cross down Kosovo ..it might offend moslems >:(
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Kosovo is turning in to another Muslamic Fascist state. >:(
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Coming Soon: To United States of America :'( :'( :'(
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I have seen a video of muslim soldiers demolishing a church in Kosovo.
I also remember synagogues burning after the Israelis gave land for "peace".
I believe only in non-islamic countries do muslims preach respect for religions.
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The rule states no PERMANENT religious symbols or fixtures. So then why are they talking not only of temporarily removing the crosses but of DESTROYING them?
I wonder why.
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Isn't the concept of a chapel to be religious? this policy makes no sense