JTF.ORG Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 18, 2008, 01:18:05 PM

Title: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 18, 2008, 01:18:05 PM
If you have quit or just simply know how to post some of your ideas or ways you quit. i thought this topic will help our members live longer since i heard one cigarette takes away 5 min of peoples lives. we need our righteous gentiles and right wing Jews to live longer!!! i thought about it 5 min each cigarette might not look like too much but if you actually count that an average smoker smokes like a pack a day thats about 20 cigarettes a day 20 X 5 is a hundred min everyday. 365 or 366 however you want X 100 is 36,500 min 36,600 min a year and divide that by 60 to get estimate hours thats about 608.333333 or 610 hours divide that by 24 you get 25.3472222 days or 25.4166667 days per year. so for each year you smoke subtract about a month from your lifetime plus it also depends on your health if you a bit over weight its more. all these calculation is approximate i did not copy paste it from some website so if i made any mistakes correct me considering the 5 min per cigarette rate. so i believe that each smoker that is our member should consider quiting as soon as possible. what you guys think? I ALSO POSTED THIS TOPIC IN Healthy Living In The Spirit of Chaim Ben Pesach SECTION.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
If you have quit or just simply know how to post some of your ideas or ways you quit. i thought this topic will help our members live longer since i heard one cigarette takes away 5 min of peoples lives. we need our righteous gentiles and right wing Jews to live longer!!! i thought about it 5 min each cigarette might not look like too much but if you actually count that an average smoker smokes like a pack a day thats about 20 cigarettes a day 20 X 5 is a hundred min everyday. 365 or 366 however you want X 100 is 36,500 min 36,600 min a year and divide that by 60 to get estimate hours thats about 608.333333 or 610 hours divide that by 24 you get 25.3472222 days or 25.4166667 days per year. so for each year you smoke subtract about a month from your lifetime plus it also depends on your health if you a bit over weight its more. all these calculation is approximate i did not copy paste it from some website so if i made any mistakes correct me considering the 5 min per cigarette rate. so i believe that each smoker that is our member should consider quiting as soon as possible. what you guys think?     

I smoke
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 18, 2008, 01:21:50 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 01:23:27 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

If I lived that long I would be sad
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Rubystars on June 18, 2008, 01:24:23 PM
Thankfully that's a vice I don't indulge in.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 18, 2008, 01:26:14 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

If I lived that long I would be sad
YOU NEVER KNOW
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 01:27:21 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

If I lived that long I would be sad
YOU NEVER KNOW

If I was a Billionaire JTF would be on National TV
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 18, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

If I lived that long I would be sad
YOU NEVER KNOW

If I was a Billionaire JTF would be on National TV
haha good answer
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 02:10:02 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

If I lived that long I would be sad
YOU NEVER KNOW

If I was a Billionaire JTF would be on National TV
haha good answer


Not Only that I would make sure Chaim will be allowed back into Israel O0
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: White Israelite on June 18, 2008, 04:00:02 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

I don't plan to live past 25, so not really concerned about it. Anyways, I don't smoke.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: q_q_ on June 18, 2008, 04:04:59 PM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Rubystars on June 18, 2008, 04:26:50 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

I don't plan to live past 25, so not really concerned about it. Anyways, I don't smoke.

30 isn't so bad. It's a little depressing sometimes (oh, gee, I'm old now! Ahhh!) but it's worth making it here. I think you're one of the coolest people on the forum so I'd love to see you posting for many more years (assuming I'm still alive). :)
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

I don't plan to live past 25, so not really concerned about it. Anyways, I don't smoke.

30 isn't so bad. It's a little depressing sometimes (oh, gee, I'm old now! Ahhh!) but it's worth making it here. I think you're one of the coolest people on the forum so I'd love to see you posting for many more years (assuming I'm still alive). :)

Rubystars you will live till you are 135  O0 You are not old
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 18, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
I smoke
Why do you? Surely you know that you are destroying yourself.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
I smoke
Why do you? Surely you know that you are destroying yourself.

Yeah I know it is but I started because of stress at my job
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 18, 2008, 04:43:40 PM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

This was completely uncalled for. Chaim ben Simon was trying to do a good thing for his fellow JTF members.

You owe him an apology this instant.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 18, 2008, 04:53:46 PM
Ancient Chinese Saying:

Many man smoke.

But few man chew.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 04:55:45 PM
Ancient Chinese Saying:

Many man smoke.

But few man chew.

Chewing Tobacco is discusting
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on June 18, 2008, 05:03:57 PM
I dont understand what do people get out of smoking? Anyway if one is going to damage oneself why not just go for liquor or drugs (not that I am saying you should do that, but at least people say they feel good doing it, even though it is damaging like smoking and one shouldn't do either).
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: TruthSpreader on June 18, 2008, 05:07:30 PM
Ancient Chinese Saying:

Many man smoke.

But few man chew.

Chewing Tobacco is discusting

All forms of tobacco is disgusting.

Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 05:20:45 PM
I don't understand what do people get out of smoking? Anyway if one is going to damage oneself why not just go for liquor or drugs (not that I am saying you should do that, but at least people say they feel good doing it, even though it is damaging like smoking and one shouldn't do either).

I am Quitting
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 18, 2008, 05:31:45 PM
Why did our Creator make each of us with nicotein receptors in our brains?

Unless I'm mistaken, most Israelis still smoke like chimneys.

It is almost an absurdity to suggest to an entire nation living each day with an existential threat, that smoking isn't good for them and might shorten their lives.

Finally, speaking entirely from personal experience, quitting cigarettes is relatively easy to do, it is remaining a non-smoker over the long term which is the difficulty.

Two methods which worked for me:

1.  You eventually get an attack of bronchitis/flu/cold which make you so sick that you can't even think about smoking for at least a week.  Then, if you continue not smoking afterwards you're well on your way.

2.  You make up your mind to quit, and then make out a regimen something like this:

Day 1:  You go until 10am before allowing your first cigarette, rather than the several which you usually smoke upon awakening and having breakfast.
Day 2:  Force yourself to make it to 12pm before having the first smoke, and then continue smoking.
Day 3:  Make it until 12:30 pm or until 1pm before the first cigarette.
Day 4:  Until 3pm then smoke the rest of the day as normally.
Day 5:  First cigarette right before dinner, then continue.
Day 6:  Until 7pm or until after dinner, whichever comes first.
Day 7:  Until 10pm
Day 8:  Only one or two right before getting in bed to sleep.
Day 9:  One cigarrete only before sleeping.
Day 10, 11, 12....One before sleep, and then NONE.

What happens:  You most likely become mildly constipated, and EXTREMELY irritable for about three days.

So ingest some prunes or prune juice prior to going to sleep, and suffer with a bad case of nerves by doing long walks or exercising physically.

Then:  After one week with no smoking you're easily going to make it with a little willpower, and most of the physical and emotional effects are fading away if not already gone.

Remain cigarette free for NINE DAYS, during which all of the nicotein your body has metabolized is passed out of your system.

Congratulations!  You're now tobacco free, and notice that you're suddenly sleeping much better and feeling more rested for the first time in many years.

Simply avoid smokers, bars, and other temptation triggers to begin smoking again, and after a short while, you will be smoke free, and about fifteen lbs. heavier!  lol
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: q_q_ on June 18, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

This was completely uncalled for. Chaim ben Simon was trying to do a good thing for his fellow JTF members.

You owe him an apology this instant.

nothing wrong with constructive criticism

I wrote that his intentions were good, which was obvious anyway, no point you repeating that fact to me.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Rubystars on June 18, 2008, 06:07:09 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

I don't plan to live past 25, so not really concerned about it. Anyways, I don't smoke.

30 isn't so bad. It's a little depressing sometimes (oh, gee, I'm old now! Ahhh!) but it's worth making it here. I think you're one of the coolest people on the forum so I'd love to see you posting for many more years (assuming I'm still alive). :)

Rubystars you will live till you are 135  O0 You are not old

Thanks AH! :) I'm glad you think I'll live that long, I hope you will too!
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
IF YOU WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU HAVE LIVED TILL 119 YEARS AND 364 DAYS HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY TO STAY ALIVE FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO???

I don't plan to live past 25, so not really concerned about it. Anyways, I don't smoke.

30 isn't so bad. It's a little depressing sometimes (oh, gee, I'm old now! Ahhh!) but it's worth making it here. I think you're one of the coolest people on the forum so I'd love to see you posting for many more years (assuming I'm still alive). :)

Rubystars you will live till you are 135  O0 You are not old

Thanks AH! :) I'm glad you think I'll live that long, I hope you will too!
Thank you :) ;) :) ;)
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 18, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
nothing wrong with constructive criticism

I wrote that his intentions were good, which was obvious anyway, no point you repeating that fact to me.

No, it was a flame pure and simple. Gimme a break, I'm not stupid.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Еврей on June 18, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
Just another reason to quit:
http://chs-republicans.house.gov/list/hearing/homeland_rep/cigarettesmuggling.pdf

Good luck to anyone trying to quit smoking!
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 18, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
It's healthier to puff on dog excrement than cigarettes.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Rubystars on June 18, 2008, 07:53:28 PM
It's healthier to puff on dog excrement than cigarettes.

I've never smoked but one time I saw this commercial against marijuana where a real wriggly nasty roach turned into a joint, and someone started putting it to their mouth. It was nasty! That made me never want to smoke anything even though I didn't want to anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 18, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
Weed is worse than tobacco because it is unfiltered and the dealers cut it with nasty stuff. (Of course, the tobacco industry puts stuff like arsenic and formaldehyde in cigarettes to make them more addictive too, though.)
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Americanhero1 on June 18, 2008, 07:56:46 PM
It's healthier to puff on dog excrement than cigarettes.

I've never smoked but one time I saw this commercial against marijuana where a real wriggly nasty roach turned into a joint, and someone started putting it to their mouth. It was nasty! That made me never want to smoke anything even though I didn't want to anyway.  ;D


I had seen that commercial too
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 18, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
I personally take a rather dim view of such absurd propaganda.

First the Republicans claimed that marijuana smoking was a major supporter of International Terrorism.

The fact that marijuana is California's #1 cash crop for many years running now apparently eluded the "geniuses" who think that the American public is so gullible as to believe their lies.

Then, these same NY politicians jack up the price of ONE pack of cigarettes to $8.50...almost all of it TAXES to these jackals who never cease to spend more money than they can steal from us, the public.

Now that they've run out of "boogeymen" to maintain their "War OF Terror" against America, such scum begin making ever greater accusations:

"Cigarettes are the major funding source for INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS!"

Of course, the Federal Government has just paid the Netherlands millions of dollars to conduct a scientific automobile driving test on license holders who smoke hashish and marijuana every day while driving.

Why?...you might be asking?

Because since hashish and marijuana are decriminalized and virtually legal in the Netherlands, the U.S.A. was extremely happy to let them get paid to do the work which should be done here in America!

Now....What was that you were saying about how cigarettes and marijuana were funding INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM ???

You'll have to excuse me now...I have to run over to the HOME DEPOT to stock up on all that plastic sheeting and duct tape TOMMY THOMPSON warned me to get in order to save myself from the imminent chemical/biological warfare attacks in 2003.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 18, 2008, 11:15:17 PM
Re:  "...Weed is worse than tobacco because it is unfiltered and the dealers cut it with nasty stuff."

You need to find a new dealer!
                 :::D
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 19, 2008, 01:47:18 AM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

bro so far no one have accomplished any of my intention because i asked for ways of quiting so don't tell me its hard. i know its not its all psychological we just need to post some ideas of how to quit this is not  about whose got the brilliant idea
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 19, 2008, 01:56:41 AM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

This was completely uncalled for. Chaim ben Simon was trying to do a good thing for his fellow JTF members.

You owe him an apology this instant.
its ok i let him come to my house with a ruler we will measure my wisdom in toilet.
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: q_q_ on June 21, 2008, 11:12:31 PM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

This was completely uncalled for. Chaim ben Simon was trying to do a good thing for his fellow JTF members.

You owe him an apology this instant.
its ok i let him come to my house with a ruler we will measure my wisdom in toilet.

you'd have to define what your wisdom is!

But regarding your new signature..

This form of bible code finding , is nonsense. 

As one rabbi who studied it manually said..  "You find what you want to find"
Infact, I knew a jewish professor with a photographic memory, who knew the entire tenach off by heart. And without a computer, he showed the whole thing was a hoax, by finding an ELS bible code that said that the bible codes are a hoax.

The original bible code researchers had their research published in a peer reviewed statistical journal. 

They were very annoyed when michael drosnin popularised nonsense about  using bible codes to predict the future.  (we don't know what will happen, and you can find anything you want).

Your signature uses the same faulty methodology as Michael Drosnin. By looking for something and finding it, choosing words that you can find, moving to places you can find them
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 22, 2008, 02:41:19 AM
chaim ben simon, you are being very naiive and childish.

smoking is a very tough habit, you won't them with you putting a post on a forum.

Your intentions are good, but your wisdom is in the toilet. Or up in smoke

This was completely uncalled for. Chaim ben Simon was trying to do a good thing for his fellow JTF members.

You owe him an apology this instant.
its ok i let him come to my house with a ruler we will measure my wisdom in toilet.

you'd have to define what your wisdom is!

But regarding your new signature..

This form of bible code finding , is nonsense. 

As one rabbi who studied it manually said..  "You find what you want to find"
Infact, I knew a jewish professor with a photographic memory, who knew the entire tenach off by heart. And without a computer, he showed the whole thing was a hoax, by finding an ELS bible code that said that the bible codes are a hoax.

The original bible code researchers had their research published in a peer reviewed statistical journal. 

They were very annoyed when michael drosnin popularised nonsense about  using bible codes to predict the future.  (we don't know what will happen, and you can find anything you want).

Your signature uses the same faulty methodology as Michael Drosnin. By looking for something and finding it, choosing words that you can find, moving to places you can find them
ok idk about this guy finding out the future but all i know is with Torah codes u cant find out the future!!! and besides Torah codes and "at bash" is part of kabbalah for your information. Specially for you i will put another image that illustrates what Torah codes have to say about codes itself if you don't believe or think its some kind of coincidence like many others including Mr. Drosnin
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: q_q_ on June 22, 2008, 03:01:22 AM
<snip>
ok idk about this guy finding out the future but all i know is with torahcodes u cant find out the future!!! and besides torahcodes and at bash is part of kabbalah fyi

You won't find that "code" that you list in kabbalah. Nor will you find a general statement in kabbalah to look for codes. Or more specifically, what you are looking for, ELS codes.
codes that come up by skipping x letters.

you could find a code that says Torah is the best. But you can find that in Shakespeare too.   Just as you can find the opposite. So it's a stupid game.

Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on June 23, 2008, 01:22:28 AM
<snip>
ok idk about this guy finding out the future but all i know is with torahcodes u cant find out the future!!! and besides torahcodes and at bash is part of kabbalah fyi

You won't find that "code" that you list in kabbalah. Nor will you find a general statement in kabbalah to look for codes. Or more specifically, what you are looking for, ELS codes.
codes that come up by skipping x letters.

you could find a code that says Torah is the best. But you can find that in Shakespeare too.   Just as you can find the opposite. So it's a stupid game.


find the opposite and find the sheakspeare codes
Title: Re: HELP OUR GREAT MEMBERS QUIT SMOKING !!! (VERY BENEFICIAL TOPIC)
Post by: q_q_ on June 23, 2008, 01:45:43 AM
<snip>
ok idk about this guy finding out the future but all i know is with torahcodes u cant find out the future!!! and besides torahcodes and at bash is part of kabbalah fyi

You won't find that "code" that you list in kabbalah. Nor will you find a general statement in kabbalah to look for codes. Or more specifically, what you are looking for, ELS codes.
codes that come up by skipping x letters.

you could find a code that says Torah is the best. But you can find that in Shakespeare too.   Just as you can find the opposite. So it's a stupid game.


find the opposite and find the sheakspeare codes


here are some assassinations written in a famous book called moby dick
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/course/Articles/assasinations.pdf

they were more limited because english has vowels written in.  remember when they look for bible codes, they don't put vowels in, and they make the vowels whatever they want.
 
As far as the code saying the bible codes are false.. That was in a professor's research papers. I could send you reference details but I doubt you'd be able to get hold if it. It's from a london university.

But it's well known that one find whatever one wants..  One article I read long ago on google showed jesus budda and reverend moon and mohammed in the bible codes, to prove that this form of looking is false and flawed.
I also saw an article showing jesus codes in there, and a refutation showing a code that siad he was a false prophet.  You could have found the same thing about Shmulik or whatever name you want.