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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 22, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
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Shalom Chaim,
We lost a number of good people during the times that we had, regrettably, crooked moderators practicing taqqiyah and pretending to be our friends at the time--while all the while working to destroy our movement from within. Over the time I have been here a good number of trolls have been banned, but also, in my opinion, several legitimate members whose only, or at least chief, offense was to offend one of the evil moderators. I am going to list four right here whose cases I strongly think should be reopened.
1: Babylonian Jew: He was a weird poster, who constantly made posts about race, but never violated any rules and appeared to support our entire mission. He was banned by Yacov at the behest of Skippy, who claimed that he was a Whorefront member. We all know how that went, needless to say. I think we can all safely conclude that all of Skippy's official decisions should be vacated in full.
2: Iron Greek: I did not know a whole lot about him, but he was banned for making a comment about beating women after being provoked and harassed by Tina as well. Although battery is no laughing matter, I think we would unanimously conclude now that we should consider the context of why he said what he did.
3: ScotcH: He was another somewhat oddball poster, and I remember he was disciplined a few times for making some nasty attacks against blacks, but he stopped it. I do not remember who actually banned him--possibly Shlomo (then Jeffguy), but I do remember the circumstances. Sarah the Muslim started a thread flaming him for no reason and he was banned when he tried to defend himself. I disagreed with this from the beginning.
4: FOTL: This surely will be the most controversial person. Yes, I know he constantly made batty posts, comments, and threads, but what is undeniable is that he had a heart of gold for our cause and completely supported all that we did. He never once responded to everyone's attacks on him (and they were many), and although mentally unstable, he maintained a constant spirit of support for Kahanism and our goals.
Shlomo banned FOTL at the lobbying of Anus-T, who had long had a personal vendetta against him because he would not support his Crusades-style Christian jihadist outlook. Unfortunately, in those days, Anus was very persuasive and had a lot of sway with Chaim, Jeffguy, and others. I am not denying that Fruit did a lot of inappropriate things, but it is undeniable that the atmosphere of hate towards him was magnified tremendously by Allen.
I know full well that most all of the mods will disagree with me here, but just please read this and consider it. I propose that we exercise mercy towards Fruit considering that he is genuinely mentally ill (he has bipolar disorder), and has acknowledged this fully. However, I don't advocate that we just let him back on. I think Yacov or another admin should approach him privately and ask if he would be willing to abide by the forum rules if given a second chance. We could then take it from there.
I request that all of the administrators would prayerfully deliberate in all of these cases, and consider the individual facts and merits separately and come to the best possible conclusions with each. I definitely think that all of the above either got a raw deal, or merit another opportunity to prove themselves.
Chaimfan.
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CF, I woudl rather have Odkahanechai and JDL4EVER back on this forum before any of those 4...no offense...
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CF, I woudl rather have Odkahanechai and JDL4EVER back on this forum before any of those 4...no offense...
JDL4Ever has great knowledge about agriculture.
Odkahanechai was hard, but fair.
I agree.
Without this Greco-animal and her evil intrigues, this dissension with the other forum wouldn't be escalated.
But the leadership over there has without a doubt a great complicity. :(
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BabylonianJew and Tina Greco are friends? I thought she was against him.
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CF, I woudl rather have Odkahanechai and JDL4EVER back on this forum before any of those 4...no offense...
Dr. Dan, I think that had you been visiting the splinter group and seen what both jdl4ever and odkahanechai have been saying their about Chaim for months, you would not of said that. Do you know that the animal odkahanechai came on here a few days ago to cause trouble and chaim banned that shmuck. If Chaim banned him, it was certainly justified. Odkahanechai is an open hater of chaim and jtf. Most members here already know about the evil of gaydl4ever and the way that animal has devoted his entire life to slandering chaim to his tiny audience on the splinter. Some of the lies he has said about Chaim are too graphic and perverted to repeat here. Those two were among the worst members jtf ever had. They are the ones we least need back.
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CF, I woudl rather have Odkahanechai and JDL4EVER back on this forum before any of those 4...no offense...
Dr. Dan, I think that had you been visiting the splinter group and seen what both jdl4ever and odkahanechai have been saying their about Chaim for months, you would not of said that. Do you know that the animal odkahanechai came on here a few days ago to cause trouble and chaim banned that shmuck. If Chaim banned him, it was certainly justified. Odkahanechai is an open hater of chaim and jtf. Most members here already know about the evil of gaydl4ever and the way that animal has devoted his entire life to slandering chaim to his tiny audience on the splinter. Some of the lies he has said about Chaim are too graphic and perverted to repeat here. Those two were among the worst members jtf ever had. They are the ones we least need back.
All do respect, DWI, I have seen what they have said and they are sorely wrong for saying it about Chaim. They failed the JTF test of being the bigger man rather than slandering Chaim and anyone else on this forum.
As far as the four that CF mentioned he wished returned...My personal opinion is that JDL4EVER and Odechanaikai are much better.
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Like Yacov said, Babylonian Jew was a Nazi. He made far too many racial posts while he was here. Tina followed him from the PAA here, and hence we got stuck with Infidel/Skippy.
Scotch was rather weird. He kept saying "Sieg" this "Sieg" that. It gave me the creeps, and it obviously also bothered Sarah.
Iron Greek should not be brought back. When he first came on here, he said that Tina deserved to be given two black eyes. Now I realize that Tina is whorefront Nazi. But you don't come on a forum and say such things when you are new to a forum. Chaim banned him the first time for it. Then Iron Greek briefly came back. I don't know if he was re-banned, or if he just left of his own free will.
Fruit was definitely obsessed with black men and white women. But then again, he was never rude or mean to any of the members. He was always nice to me in my private messages. He always seemed to be supportive of our movement. And he was funny.
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CF, I woudl rather have Odkahanechai and JDL4EVER back on this forum before any of those 4...no offense...
Dr. Dan, I think that had you been visiting the splinter group and seen what both jdl4ever and odkahanechai have been saying their about Chaim for months, you would not of said that. Do you know that the animal odkahanechai came on here a few days ago to cause trouble and chaim banned that shmuck. If Chaim banned him, it was certainly justified. Odkahanechai is an open hater of chaim and jtf. Most members here already know about the evil of gaydl4ever and the way that animal has devoted his entire life to slandering chaim to his tiny audience on the splinter. Some of the lies he has said about Chaim are too graphic and perverted to repeat here. Those two were among the worst members jtf ever had. They are the ones we least need back.
All do respect, DWI, I have seen what they have said and they are sorely wrong for saying it about Chaim. They failed the JTF test of being the bigger man rather than slandering Chaim and anyone else on this forum.
As far as the four that CF mentioned he wished returned...My personal opinion is that JDL4EVER and Odechanaikai are much better.
This is exactly my oppinion. None of this two would ever do really evil things like other former members did. They would never bring someone of us in real danger, because both of them have an intact religious barrier. I read some accusations against Chaim on the other forum. I don't like this, but althrough I think they have a better heart then the other four. :)
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JDL4ever sladered us on kahane.org.
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Dan - jdl4ever left voluntarily, (but I think if he isn't already banned then he should be. You might disagree, who cares ). He really isn't relevant, because he left voluntarily. So no point discussing him
CF's is asking about people who were banned and left for that reason! So let's stick to CF's post.
people who decided to leave voluntarily are another matter.. and as has been discussed, we don't beg or reminisce (or discuss! it's pointless).
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Like Yacov said, Babylonian Jew was a Nazi. He made far too many racial posts while he was here. Tina followed him from the PAA here, and hence we got stuck with Infidel/Skippy.
Scotch was rather weird. He kept saying "Sieg" this "Sieg" that. It gave me the creeps, and it obviously also bothered Sarah.
Iron Greek should not be brought back. When he first came on here, he said that Tina deserved to be given two black eyes. Now I realize that Tina is whorefront Nazi. But you don't come on a forum and say such things when you are new to a forum. Chaim banned him the first time for it. Then Iron Greek briefly came back. I don't know if he was re-banned, or if he just left of his own free will.
Fruit was definitely obsessed with black men and white women. But then again, he was never rude or mean to any of the members. He was always nice to me in my private messages. He always seemed to be supportive of our movement. And he was funny.
Its interesting seeing what other members think of some of the past members who were banned. In most cases I agree with what other members thought about some of our more colorful members. Iron Greek is one case that i have to say Tina Greco fanned the fires of destruction with. He was a young guy and seemed like a good sport here this old monster did nothing but make him feel like he was a little kid. She would belittle him to no end. I wasn't aware of the black eye remark :D which as we speak doesn't sound like such a bad idea but I got great pleasure when he called her an old bit-h. Anyway I think most of the people who were banned were banned for a good reason and that being the case should probably stay banned. We are getting great new people every day and if some of the problem children sneak back in undetected and behave what can we do. Notice now I said some ;)
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Alright, if this is the case I do apologize for my general ignorance. Still,
1: Skippy certainly did deserve "two black eyes". Many of us were personally attacked by her (remember when she tried to prove that I was the troll Tonycali?), and a lot of people were angered very quickly by her. You notice he didn't threaten any other female posters with physical violence.
2: Scotch may have been a kook, but I don't believe ever that a Muslim should have ever been allowed to do what she did on a Jewish forum.
3: FOTL is the best of the lot that I mentioned. He was capable of being a quality poster for long stretches and was always kind and respectful, even if he did say crazy things and obsessed about white women and black men. Of all the four I mentioned, he definitely deserves a second chance.
CF
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anyone banned on skippy's recommendation or insistence is evidence and testimony obtained by virtue of poisoned-fruit and is thus tainted... any and all of them should be allowed back on a probationary basis (whatever that may entail and for what duration is up to you guys)... but no one here should have gotten the boot from her or from her two friends (kelly and newman) who left along with her as a gesture of sympathy with her over her supposed "plight" of "persecution" by the honhala of jtf... (i do not know if they actually had anyone banned from here on their say-so)... nik.
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Couldn't any of those banned people just have come back under different aliases if they were so inclined?
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Well, I am sure it wouldn't be that easy for them thankfully. Jtf Admins aren't stupid and ban the ip's as well. I hope to never see any of those beasts here ever again.
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What? no mention of Just Erica??
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What about SherePunjab?
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What? no mention of Just Erica??
Why that crack-addled beast was allowed to remain after post one remains a mystery to me. ???
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how many did skippy help cause to be banned...? sounds like an awful lot to me... 6...? 7...? and if it really WAS this many... how in the hell of it all... didn't anyone realize what she was doing...? i know lubab was on her case but he was the only one... nik.
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how many did skippy help cause to be banned...? sounds like an awful lot to me... 6...? 7...? and if it really WAS this many... how in the hell of it all... didn't anyone realize what she was doing...? i know lubab was on her case but he was the only one... nik.
Lubab was the only one?
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well yes... i heard about your rows with her... sorry i forgot... but they... the skipmeister and kelly were all about accusing you of misogyny... hating women... so i did not pick up on the fact that you thought them both spies... i stand corrected... sorry... still that only makes two of you here... nik.
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JDL4ever sladered us on kahane.org.
after someone on this forum went over there with his big heart to defend Chaim..But i don't blame that person...I blame the fact that the JDL4EVER and Odkahanechai tried to fight that person in the same manner...they should have been the bigger person and let it go or deal with it more maturely...
that's where in lies the problem wtih most kahanist jews..way too passionate..way to hot headed...and at times, way too extreme...extreme personalities filled wtih passion that disagree never get along...
Look at how crazy muslims treat each other. Jews shoudl never do that to each other, but extremes filled with fire do also unfortunately..this here in lie that i think sometimes liberal societies (not socialist and communist ones) manage to force people of opposing views to calm down and agree to disagree.
but oh well...it's the nature of the movement..I wish some people could change and grow up.
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I just knew Iron Greek, he seemed like a kid when we went on the forum. I remember he told a member to relax and smoke some hookah, something along those lines. ;D
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how many did skippy help cause to be banned...? sounds like an awful lot to me... 6...? 7...? and if it really WAS this many... how in the hell of it all... didn't anyone realize what she was doing...? i know lubab was on her case but he was the only one... nik.
Lubab was the only one?
Lubab was banned from jtf? Your kidding me?
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well yes... i heard about your rows with her... sorry i forgot... but they... the skipmeister and kelly were all about accusing you of misogyny... hating women... so i did not pick up on the fact that you thought them both spies... i stand corrected... sorry... still that only makes two of you here... nik.
You are wrong - Nik.
There were more then two.
You should give credit where credit is due.
Scriabin was the most vocal and took the most abuse from those lovely ladies.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/stbowman/bluecigars.jpg)
He doesn't just get the cigar...he deserves the whole box.
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Dr. Dan, these people weren't real Kahanists, but fringe members--cultists--who put loyalty to their leader (the dog trainer) above the goals of the group. Their depth or intellect does not matter now--they want nothing to do with the movement!
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Dr. Dan, these people weren't real Kahanists, but fringe members--cultists--who put loyalty to their leader (the dog trainer) above the goals of the group. Their depth or intellect does not matter now--they want nothing to do with the movement!
I agree, they didn't understand the true righteous message.
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how many did skippy help cause to be banned...? sounds like an awful lot to me... 6...? 7...? and if it really WAS this many... how in the hell of it all... didn't anyone realize what she was doing...? i know lubab was on her case but he was the only one... nik.
Lubab was the only one?
Lubab was banned from jtf? Your kidding me?
NO, he was never banned. Lubab was suspicious of the evil dyke form the beginning.
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yeah... i meant lubab was the only one openly saying that skippy and kelly were spies... but maybe i'm wrong... maybe there were more than just the 2 of them... scriabin being the other one... and kelly's leaving with the skipper does that make her retroactively guilty by association...? i mean... how can she be so tight with someone who goes off like that and puts up such vile filth...? and stay friends with her and leave with her in protest and solidarity...? just doesn't make any sense unless she's really one too... nik.
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Don't forget Tonycali
or i should write it as: towneekalee
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how many did skippy help cause to be banned...? sounds like an awful lot to me... 6...? 7...? and if it really WAS this many... how in the hell of it all... didn't anyone realize what she was doing...? i know lubab was on her case but he was the only one... nik.
I gave her a good smacking around when started talking about pure white race....To the point that people were trying to pull me away from her...I think she nearly quit on my anger towards her on that. I was really cursing her out!
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Dr. Dan, these people weren't real Kahanists, but fringe members--cultists--who put loyalty to their leader (the dog trainer) above the goals of the group. Their depth or intellect does not matter now--they want nothing to do with the movement!
I agree with you...But do you think that some of do the same with Chaim? I mean..it's about JTF; not Chaim. I know that most loyal JTFers understand that...JDL4EVER and Odkahanachai will never understand that..and it's too bad...
You are 100% right, CF.
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well yes... i heard about your rows with her... sorry i forgot... but they... the skipmeister and kelly were all about accusing you of misogyny... hating women... so i did not pick up on the fact that you thought them both spies... i stand corrected... sorry... still that only makes two of you here... nik.
You are wrong - Nik.
There were more then two.
You should give credit where credit is due.
Scriabin was the most vocal and took the most abuse from those lovely ladies.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/stbowman/bluecigars.jpg)
He doesn't just get the cigar...he deserves the whole box.
Thanks, Bullcat.
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well yes... i heard about your rows with her... sorry i forgot... but they... the skipmeister and kelly were all about accusing you of misogyny... hating women... so i did not pick up on the fact that you thought them both spies... i stand corrected... sorry... still that only makes two of you here... nik.
You are wrong - Nik.
There were more then two.
You should give credit where credit is due.
Scriabin was the most vocal and took the most abuse from those lovely ladies.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/stbowman/bluecigars.jpg)
He doesn't just get the cigar...he deserves the whole box.
Thanks, Bullcat.
Those are good cigars O0
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yeah... i meant lubab was the only one openly saying that skippy and kelly were spies... but maybe i'm wrong... maybe there were more than just the 2 of them... scriabin being the other one... and kelly's leaving with the skipper does that make her retroactively guilty by association...? i mean... how can she be so tight with someone who goes off like that and puts up such vile filth...? and stay friends with her and leave with her in protest and solidarity...? just doesn't make any sense unless she's really one too... nik.
I never really noticed Kelly Maureen causing trouble. I do seem to recall she had a friend poster by the name of JewishTeddy who seem alright at first and then suddenly went crazy and started really tearing Dexter a new one and calling him names and then attacking me andother people on this forum. Kelly was "shocked" at how he reacted...what personally shocked me was that this was an "old friend" of her's.
Kelly was probably a very bad seed to begin with.
What i wonder is why Newman left with Skippy and hasn't returned in light of everything happening. He currently posts regularly on Kahane.org forum. Does anyone think he was just another Skippy type person?
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What i wonder is why Newman left with Skippy and hasn't returned in light of everything happening. He currently posts regularly on Kahane.org forum. Does anyone think he was just another Skippy type person?
Yes.
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Newman warned the other forum about Allen -T
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Newman warned the other forum about Allen -T
yes i did see that
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i also think there should be a better vetting system for those who become moderators and admin. n.
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Have to agree with Nik on this one. We have had upwards of half a dozen dirty moderators in the past year and a half. We are doing something wrong.
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Don't forget Tonycali
or i should write it as: towneekalee
Haha Skippy said I was Tony.
And yeah, at least he was somewhat funny with his incessant "hayam tell me about the drag queens my professor like's" questions. :::D
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yes i did see that
I am not sure that that is really Anus-T or some spoofer. The fact that his name was not spelled correctly ("Allan" versus Allen) leads me to believe it is a spoofing.
In any case, I suspect the penguin will embrace him with open arms if he claims to be on a mission against JTF.
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I never really noticed Kelly Maureen causing trouble. I do seem to recall she had a friend poster by the name of JewishTeddy who seem alright at first and then suddenly went crazy and started really tearing Dexter a new one and calling him names and then attacking me andother people on this forum. Kelly was "shocked" at how he reacted...what personally shocked me was that this was an "old friend" of her's.
Kelly was probably a very bad seed to begin with.
What i wonder is why Newman left with Skippy and hasn't returned in light of everything happening. He currently posts regularly on Kahane.org forum. Does anyone think he was just another Skippy type person?
I don't know what is up with her either. For the longest time, she seemed like a very stable person.
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it's just too bad about her... i just don't get it... nik.
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i also think there should be a better vetting system for those who become moderators and admin. n.
As soon as Skippy was made moderator I said, "Who let the flies in?"
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I think FOTL should be unbanned, my only concern is that he might harass women and scare them away but I see Lisa says he doesn't.
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i also think there should be a better vetting system for those who become moderators and admin. n.
Very true! I hope that leadership has figured out a better system.
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These members were weird people. I know it sucks when a member gets banned. But it does take alot in this forum to get banned, and for good reason. Some were entertaining. But most were evil.
Somehow, I got an x-jtf person on my email thread, she HATES Jews, she didnt when she was WITH JTF, JTF took a stand against R. Paul and she went nuts. I also have been acquainted with this person for 25 yrs.. I had to renounce all and any friendship with her. The way she talked about Jews on the email thread, I could NOT tolerate, the last email telling her: Do not ever email me again. I am getting to the point tht if I hear one more remark about us Jews, I may just punch someone in the face. >:( caio- gotta get busy.
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I think FOTL should be unbanned, my only concern is that he might harass women and scare them away but I see Lisa says he doesn't.
He didn't actually harass women--he just made a lot of "interesting" posts about romantic congress between black males and white females.
As far as I know only one woman actually left because of him (Yephora), who in my opinion was never cut out for us anyway if she would leave because of something so trivial and silly.
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Somehow, I got an x-jtf person on my email thread, she HATES Jews, she didnt when she was WITH JTF, JTF took a stand against R. Paul and she went nuts. I also have been acquainted with this person for 25 yrs.. I had to renounce all and any friendship with her. The way she talked about Jews on the email thread, I could NOT tolerate, the last email telling her: Do not ever email me again. I am getting to the point tht if I hear one more remark about us Jews, I may just punch someone in the face. Angry caio- gotta get busy.
Who was it?
Guys, do you any of you remember a female member who supported Ron Paul?
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yes i did see that
I am not sure that that is really Anus-T or some spoofer. The fact that his name was not spelled correctly ("Allan" versus Allen) leads me to believe it is a spoofing.
In any case, I suspect the penguin will embrace him with open arms if he claims to be on a mission against JTF.
I noticed that and thought to myself...is that how someone from Australia might spell Allen T ???
Who cares really.
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The only female member I can remember who somewhat supported Ron Paul was Rubystars, for a short time when she first joined. Then we all showed her the Nazi beast that he is.
I would like to know what happened to Shoshana. She was here about a month, posted prolifically for that time, and then left without a trace.
Also, what happened to: KansasJew and Judeanoncapta?
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I don't think this forum was exactly up Shoshana's alley.
What did happen to KansasJew and Judeanoncapta?
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What did Shoshana dislike about us?
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What did Shoshana dislike about us?
I don't know for sure.
I think she was looking for more of a social forum.
Sometimes it is not the right fit.
No harm No foul.
She seemed like a nice person.
It's only a feeling I have.
Maybe some day she will come back and tell us.
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I liked Shoshana.
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Somehow, I got an x-jtf person on my email thread, she HATES Jews, she didnt when she was WITH JTF, JTF took a stand against R. Paul and she went nuts. I also have been acquainted with this person for 25 yrs.. I had to renounce all and any friendship with her. The way she talked about Jews on the email thread, I could NOT tolerate, the last email telling her: Do not ever email me again. I am getting to the point tht if I hear one more remark about us Jews, I may just punch someone in the face. Angry caio- gotta get busy.
Who was it?
Guys, do you any of you remember a female member who supported Ron Paul?
nope.
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I liked Shoshana.
Me too! I think most of us did.
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Somehow, I got an x-jtf person on my email thread, she HATES Jews, she didnt when she was WITH JTF, JTF took a stand against R. Paul and she went nuts. I also have been acquainted with this person for 25 yrs.. I had to renounce all and any friendship with her. The way she talked about Jews on the email thread, I could NOT tolerate, the last email telling her: Do not ever email me again. I am getting to the point tht if I hear one more remark about us Jews, I may just punch someone in the face. Angry caio- gotta get busy.
Who was it?
Guys, do you any of you remember a female member who supported Ron Paul?
This person David knows.. She is one of the nastiest people I have ever known now- she said that she supported JTF for years, when I saw this last freak- tina greco, I thought it WAS her. These ron paulers are seriously insane, I would have to say that it looks to me, like she has completely went over to the dark side, has zero balance, these ron paulers are just as bad as those obama-bots, and most of them I 100% BELIEVE are total NAZIs.