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Title: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Masha on July 01, 2008, 06:47:20 AM
I thought these were neat and wanted to share them.

Jewish girls
(http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/prok/02200/02295r.jpg)

Yeshiva boys
(http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/prok/02200/02294r.jpg)

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsc/04400/04442r.jpg)

(The color is made with some special technique in the last one. But it's old - from 100 years ago).
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Ulli on July 01, 2008, 07:39:55 AM
Yes the bottom-picture is. You can see it i.e. on the tube left-side and on the balustrade. I have had an old garden book about roses from the 19th century there they used the technique of "colorieren*" too.

*I don't know the English term.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Masha on July 01, 2008, 08:11:55 AM
Oh, I found where the website I got the images from talks about the coloring process:

Quote
Prokudin-Gorskii created his negatives by using a camera that exposed one oblong glass plate three times in rapid succession through three different color filters: blue, green, and red. For formal presentations, he printed positive glass slides of these negatives and projected them through a triple lens magic lantern. Prokudin-Gorskii would project the slide through the three lenses, and, with the use of color filters, superimpose the three exposures to form a full color image on a screen.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/prokhtml/prokcolor.html

Fascinating. Very inventive!
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 01, 2008, 08:13:22 AM
I like Bucharian jews. They are nicer people than most ashkenazim that I have met. I myself an ashkenaz, but I am just saying.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Masha on July 01, 2008, 08:20:13 AM
I like Bucharian jews. They are nicer people than most ashkenazim that I have met. I myself an ashkenaz, but I am just saying.

I only met one Bucharian Jew (from Tashkent). She was a nice lady.

I wonder whether a photographer is himself partly Jewish. Gorski is typically a Jewish surname, which refers to a "mountain Jew" (gorskiy yevrey), which means a Jew from Caucasus. I've seen this surname among the Poles, but I don't know whether it could be indigenously Polish or it must have belonged to people with some distant Jewish ancestry.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Masha on July 01, 2008, 08:33:46 AM
Ha-ha. Just for comparison. Here are some other females from Samarkand (a Muslim city) from the same period:

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21746r.jpg)

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21769r.jpg)

Beautiful faces.  ;D
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Ulli on July 01, 2008, 09:30:53 AM
Yes look at the houses too. The Jews have nice houses with a lot windows that make it bright, warm and nice.

The Muslimes live in dirty caves.  ;D
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on July 01, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
I like Bucharian jews. They are nicer people than most ashkenazim that I have met. I myself an ashkenaz, but I am just saying.

I only met one Bucharian Jew (from Tashkent). She was a nice lady.

I wonder whether a photographer is himself partly Jewish. Gorski is typically a Jewish surname, which refers to a "mountain Jew" (gorskiy yevrey), which means a Jew from Caucasus. I've seen this surname among the Poles, but I don't know whether it could be indigenously Polish or it must have belonged to people with some distant Jewish ancestry.
Yohnathan ben Yakov is bukharian
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: AsheDina on July 01, 2008, 10:03:49 AM
I thought these were neat and wanted to share them.

Jewish girls
(http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/prok/02200/02295r.jpg)

Yeshiva boys
(http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/prok/02200/02294r.jpg)

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsc/04400/04442r.jpg)

(The color is made with some special technique in the last one. But it's old - from 100 years ago).

The top one on the left, looks EXACTLY like my Nana when that age.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Vito on July 01, 2008, 10:37:58 AM
I like Bucharian jews. They are nicer people than most ashkenazim that I have met. I myself an ashkenaz, but I am just saying.

I only met one Bucharian Jew (from Tashkent). She was a nice lady.

I wonder whether a photographer is himself partly Jewish. Gorski is typically a Jewish surname, which refers to a "mountain Jew" (gorskiy yevrey), which means a Jew from Caucasus. I've seen this surname among the Poles, but I don't know whether it could be indigenously Polish or it must have belonged to people with some distant Jewish ancestry.

Gorski is just a normal Russian name. The Gorskis that I've met were Russian orthodox. Although, I've met Lutheran Goldsteins as well, so don't go by me lol.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Rubystars on July 01, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
I think in English it's called "coloration" and the photos that it is done to are called "colorized".

Those are some very nice pictures.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Ulli on July 01, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
I think in English it's called "coloration" and the photos that it is done to are called "colorized".

Those are some very nice pictures.

Nice to know. :)
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Zelhar on July 01, 2008, 03:56:36 PM
Ha-ha. Just for comparison. Here are some other females from Samarkand (a Muslim city) from the same period:

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21746r.jpg)

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21769r.jpg)

Beautiful faces.  ;D

There are no windows in that house, so they put the curtains on the women. ;D
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: judeanoncapta on July 01, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
Many people beleive that Bukharian Jews come from the Lost tribes of Israel more specifically Yissachar and Naftali.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on July 01, 2008, 04:15:38 PM
Which one's the chicken?
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 02, 2008, 01:24:10 AM
Wow
Jews have really been scattered.
From the desert to the freezing cold.
Title: Re: Old photographs of Jews in Samarkand
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 02, 2008, 01:28:04 AM
Ha-ha. Just for comparison. Here are some other females from Samarkand (a Muslim city) from the same period:

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21746r.jpg)

(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/prokc/21700/21769r.jpg)

Beautiful faces.  ;D
Looks like a robe hanging on a coat rack. Or a Druid. Or a decapitated person propped up on a wall (which Muzzie butchers have done thousands of times).