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Title: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 12:46:47 AM
Well... it's that time again, time to dust off another troll. Our newest winner is one "Iratollah", who in addition to having a name awfully similar to "ayatollah" has posted this beautiful little gem on Ask JTF this week:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=22775.15

Quote from: iratollah
When I first found this forum I thought I'd found some like minded Jews.  I believe in Jewish self defense.  I find ADL, AIPAC, Federation and JNF to be a bunch of flaccid putzes.  I think Jews should own and know how to use their guns.  I've successfully organized grass roots movements to disrupt local antisemitic demonstrations, gotten the police to issue hundreds of dollars of citations to the local Jew haters and have been called names by the local Jewish establishment for my activism.

The more I read the posts here, the more I find this forum to be a magnet for viciously bigotted mishigahnahs, and management seems to endorse this attitude.*

Have I simply not spent enough time here?  Or is this group not very different from the narrow minded 'schvartzas and ragheads' that are  insulted in ways that I've only seen on the white supremacist forums.   Is that the general tone and attitude here?  If so, I don't care to be associated with a bunch of hateful putzes who may as well gai klop zie kopf in vant, you can go ahead and delete all of my posts.  Be careful when you look into the abyss that the abyss doesn't look back through you.  Is that what I'm seeing here?

(*italics added by Chaimfan)

I smell an Iranian Muslim Nazi.

Chaimfan
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Dan on July 04, 2008, 12:49:34 AM
It's more like 'I-A-Troll-A'
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 04, 2008, 12:49:56 AM
It's more like 'I-A-Troll-A'

 :::D
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 12:50:10 AM
Either way, it's time to ban the Muslime.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 04, 2008, 12:51:20 AM
He thinks we are like white supremacist :o
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 12:52:35 AM
But it's not "supremacist" to sadistically mutilate two helpless captive soldiers.  >:(
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 04, 2008, 12:54:10 AM
This guy is a retard ban Iratollah
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 12:55:31 AM
Away with this piece of Shi(i)t(e) already. Wake up, mods...
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2008, 01:39:58 AM
I saw that post.  But I want Iratollah to hear Chaim let him/her/it have it. 
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 01:52:53 AM
I saw that post.  But I want Iratollah to hear Chaim let him/her/it have it. 
But it's clearly a Shiite Muslim Nazi.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2008, 01:55:57 AM
Fine.  I'll ban him tomorrow.  I want him to hear Chaim tearing him apart.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 02:05:53 AM
You can ban him right now. All you need to do is add the comment that you would appreciate him responding anyway, for our own benefit. I can't stomach Hezbollahist Shiite beasts in particular right now in the aftermath of Olmert's defecation on the graves of those two poor tortured soldiers.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 02:21:29 AM
Umm yeah. Lots of Shiite Muslims come around after one tongue-lashing.  ::)
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 04, 2008, 02:22:29 AM
Umm yeah. Lots of Shiite Muslims come around after one tongue-lashing.  ::)

Yeah the lashing of a whip
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 02:47:40 AM
Also most Shiite Muslims don't name their kids Ira.
It could be he is having fun with us by adopting a Jewish-sounding name. Or it could be a Muzzie-loving Jew. Either way, this is a Nazi beast.

PS: Someone told me that "Iratollah" was the screenname of a famous hacker.  :o
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Ulli on July 04, 2008, 03:01:22 AM
Quote
Or is this group not very different from the narrow minded 'schvartzas and ragheads' that are  insulted in ways that I've only seen on the white supremacist forums.

Do you really want to come to the defence of Muslimes? Just yesterday a quranimal murdered four Jews and tried to murder hundreds more in Jerusalem.

You are really a shame ...  :(

Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 03:05:49 AM
Just yesterday a quranimal
Horrible subject matter but hella funny...  ;D
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: iratollah on July 04, 2008, 05:55:50 AM
I've carried the iratollah name for years, I got it for being the spiritual leader of my motorcycle gang.  My shul, which I'm in every single Shabbat, will sure be surprised to find out that I'm muslim.  Looks like there's some paranoid putzes on this board if you think I'm muslim.  About the only boards I post on are gun owner and motorcycle boards.  Look for me at the national rifle championships next month.

It's the leftist hippy hate groups in town that I've been kicking the crap out of, even some rabbis have joined me in the activities I've led to put those a-holes out of business.  Their group has dwindled down from two dozen Jew haters regularly appearing in public to only three.  I'm not done with them yet.  The messianic phony Jews are next.  But I'll find some real Jews to work with me as the schmeckles here are too busy chest thumping like Tarzan to accomplish anything useful.

What I see here are a bunch of keyboard commandos who love to shry.  What have any of you schmegegies done besides sling excrement?  Then it splashes back on you and you complain that you don't like the smell?  How many of you would say in person what you're willing to tell me here?  Ummm-hmmm.  Faigalehs.

There's a big difference between defending muslims and fighting hate speech.  Hate speech is the specialty of the trash that wants to kill us.  I'm supposed to sound like them?  You keep on marginalizing yourselves and then go screw off.

My grandparents, uncles and aunt were murdered for being Jewish, I don't need some schlubs hiding behind keyboards telling me that I'm pathetic.  You bigots be sure to take xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx before you ban me. ::)

I don't know anything about your holy prophet 'Chaim', I'm trembling in anticipation of what he/she may have to say to me.  Except it doesn't look like I'll be around since I'm not goose-stepping to the same drummer as the regulars here.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: iratollah on July 04, 2008, 06:20:31 AM
PS: Someone told me that "Iratollah" was the screenname of a famous hacker.  :o
I'm sure 'someone' also told you that you'll grow hair on your palms and go blind.  Find someone else to call a Nazi beast you lowlife drek, I've scraped things off my shoe that have more value than what I've seen from you here.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: cjd on July 04, 2008, 06:53:38 AM
Voice your opinion but keep it decent this despite what you believe is a religious forum.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: AsheDina on July 04, 2008, 07:23:40 AM
I've carried the iratollah name for years, I got it for being the spiritual leader of my motorcycle gang.  My shul, which I'm in every single Shabbat, will sure be surprised to find out that I'm muslim.  Looks like there's some paranoid putzes on this board if you think I'm muslim.  About the only boards I post on are gun owner and motorcycle boards.  Look for me at the national rifle championships next month.

It's the leftist hippy hate groups in town that I've been kicking the crap out of, even some rabbis have joined me in the activities I've led to put those a-holes out of business.  Their group has dwindled down from two dozen Jew haters regularly appearing in public to only three.  I'm not done with them yet.  The messianic phony Jews are next.  But I'll find some real Jews to work with me as the schmeckles here are too busy chest thumping like Tarzan to accomplish anything useful.

What I see here are a bunch of keyboard commandos who love to shry.  What have any of you schmegegies done besides sling excrement?  Then it splashes back on you and you complain that you don't like the smell?  How many of you would say in person what you're willing to tell me here?  Ummm-hmmm.  Faigalehs.

There's a big difference between defending muslims and fighting hate speech.  Hate speech is the specialty of the trash that wants to kill us.  I'm supposed to sound like them?  You keep on marginalizing yourselves and then go screw off.

My grandparents, uncles and aunt were murdered for being Jewish, I don't need some schlubs hiding behind keyboards telling me that I'm pathetic.  You bigots be sure to take my circumcized dick out of your mouths before you ban me. ::)

I don't know anything about your holy prophet 'Chaim', I'm trembling in anticipation of what he/she may have to say to me.  Except it doesn't look like I'll be around since I'm not goose-stepping to the same drummer as the regulars here.

  Wow- This is the new course in "How to make friends and influence people" ? Welcome to OUR world...

  "Hate-Speech" the term reserved for the marxists trying to pass the bill into law, the: H.R 1955
 
  WE USE to live in a USA that had ACCOUNTABILITY that comes with Free Speech
"The free communication of thoughts and opinions is one of the invaluable rights of man, and every citizen may freely speak, write and print on any subject, being responsible for the abuse of that liberty."  Written in Freedom of Press and Speech; Libels
Section 7.    WE, the people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty G-d for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

  Sir; I read that your young daughter carries an AR15? As you have written here? And she is a Jewish girl?
  Sir; I suggest that you would teach her a course in psych darts, so that she may learn how to direct insults with greater accuracy.
  Keyboard Commandos?  It is evident, that which you detest, has become your own hypocrisy. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
  Pardon me for perpetrating such an atrocious breech of social etiquette.. but, just exactly WHAT does your 'beef' have to do with people here? 
 Are you suggesting that we cower to these words which you use so casually, just because you post that you have a motorcycle, and a rifle?    You stated that you have grandparents, aunts, and uncles that were murdered for being Jewish... Do you believe that THEY would be joyful over your seeming threatening persona that is glowering over children whose g-fathers/g-mothers and etc.  suffered in the same fate?
  I can't speak for the National Chaiman of the JTF, however, I CAN speak for me- This really IS the nastiest group of words comprised, in a post that I have ever seen. 
Welcome, I guess..
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 04, 2008, 08:44:45 AM
I have an inkling as to who this puts is. Its deff not the porn poster as this guy can write a little better than him. Its either the troll who signed up here about a half year ago under names like gutb6, gutb7, gutb8 etc... Or it could be someone who used to be an honorable winged member here but has now turned into a turncoat and uses every stroke of the keyboard to lie about jtf on another forum.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: cjd on July 04, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
Well whoever it is he is a foul mouthed animal. I think the sooner he gets dumped from JTF the better. Its one thing to disagree with us but this guy is out of order.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 04, 2008, 09:45:33 AM
I've carried the iratollah name for years, I got it for being the spiritual leader of my motorcycle gang.  My shul, which I'm in every single Shabbat, will sure be surprised to find out that I'm muslim.  Looks like there's some paranoid putzes on this board if you think I'm muslim.  About the only boards I post on are gun owner and motorcycle boards.  Look for me at the national rifle championships next month.

It's the leftist hippy hate groups in town that I've been kicking the crap out of, even some rabbis have joined me in the activities I've led to put those a-holes out of business.  Their group has dwindled down from two dozen Jew haters regularly appearing in public to only three.  I'm not done with them yet.  The messianic phony Jews are next.  But I'll find some real Jews to work with me as the schmeckles here are too busy chest thumping like Tarzan to accomplish anything useful.

What I see here are a bunch of keyboard commandos who love to shry.  What have any of you schmegegies done besides sling excrement?  Then it splashes back on you and you complain that you don't like the smell?  How many of you would say in person what you're willing to tell me here?  Ummm-hmmm.  Faigalehs.

There's a big difference between defending muslims and fighting hate speech.  Hate speech is the specialty of the trash that wants to kill us.  I'm supposed to sound like them?  You keep on marginalizing yourselves and then go screw off.

My grandparents, uncles and aunt were murdered for being Jewish, I don't need some schlubs hiding behind keyboards telling me that I'm pathetic.  You bigots be sure to take xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx before you ban me. ::)

I don't know anything about your holy prophet 'Chaim', I'm trembling in anticipation of what he/she may have to say to me.  Except it doesn't look like I'll be around since I'm not goose-stepping to the same drummer as the regulars here.

Ok Allen-T, enough of your BS...get outta here and move on with your life!
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: TruthSpreader on July 04, 2008, 09:53:04 AM
Whoever he is, he'll get his just desserts.

Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 12:44:13 PM
I have an inkling as to who this puts is. Its deff not the porn poster as this guy can write a little better than him. Its either the troll who signed up here about a half year ago under names like gutb6, gutb7, gutb8 etc... Or it could be someone who used to be an honorable winged member here but has now turned into a turncoat and uses every stroke of the keyboard to lie about jtf on another forum.
Good observations, but I think it is Anus-T. Of course, GUTB might have been Anus-T...
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: TruthSpreader on July 04, 2008, 07:15:48 PM
The title on this topic should be have "iratrollah."
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on July 04, 2008, 07:39:23 PM
Why ban him at all? As long as he doesn't violate the rules, the forum is more interesting when we have people who do not agree with us. He may end up violating the rules, and then he should be banned. But until then, I think it is healthy for us to debate.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Shlomo on July 04, 2008, 07:53:47 PM
I agree. He asks a valid question that others might ask who are new to the forum.

We do not ban people simply because they disagree with us or have a misunderstanding of what we are about.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 04, 2008, 07:55:07 PM
Even if he turns out to be Anus-T or a StørmFrønt troll (the latter of which I suspect now)?
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: AsheDina on July 04, 2008, 07:59:39 PM
Even if he turns out to be Anus-T or a StørmFrønt troll (the latter of which I suspect now)?

  It could be possible C.F. I stated what happened in Paltalk, that people talk like this- and they know Hebrew- If it is the truth, it will get revealed- OR- he could possibly be a fighter WITH us- but, what I posted, he needed to be reprimanded- however, some of what he said WAS edited. BUT, if he is WITH the JTF- he would be a great fighter. OR, like Chaim suggested- good for healthy debate- I am interested to know HOW he defeated the Self-hating Jews. Also- I dont think I have seen Rabbi's on motorcycles- so this COULD be interesting......
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2008, 08:18:40 PM
Shall I un-ban him?
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: TruthSpreader on July 04, 2008, 08:36:08 PM
Sure, why not?

Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: White Israelite on July 05, 2008, 09:26:18 PM
Um wow, why you guys claiming Iratollah is a muslim? I'm Jewish and hate the ADL and AIPAC as well. AIPAC applauded for Obama for crying out loud and ADL wants Jewish gun rights, the only thing ADL does is they WANT anti-semitism to exist so they can make their money. What has this user posted that implys he's a muslim?
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 05, 2008, 09:39:08 PM
Chaim, I respectfully dissent from you here. This guy does not want to ask any legitimate questions whatsoever. His mind is completely made-up about JTF.

Meir Cohen, doesn't "iratollah" sound a lot like "ayatollah" to you?
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: White Israelite on July 05, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Chaim, I respectfully dissent from you here. This guy does not want to ask any legitimate questions whatsoever. His mind is completely made-up about JTF.

Meir Cohen, doesn't "iratollah" sound a lot like "ayatollah" to you?

It sounds like a parody to me, but he sounded pretty legitimate. I do have Jewish friends with similar views to what Iratollah has, including one that I have been unsucessful in bringing over to the forums, however is a gun nut.

I'm simply stating, aren't we throwing around a lot of accusations without evidence?
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 05, 2008, 10:49:57 PM
Also somebody told me that Iratollah was a famous hacker...
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
Also somebody told me that Iratollah was a famous hacker...
Famous hacker you say?!
 perhaps he could be of use after all... ^-^
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: White Israelite on July 05, 2008, 11:11:34 PM
Also somebody told me that Iratollah was a famous hacker...
Famous hacker you say?!
 perhaps he could be of use after all... ^-^

Could have asked me that though I don't engage in illegal activity of any kind nor discuss that on a public forum ;)
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2008, 11:19:29 PM
Also somebody told me that Iratollah was a famous hacker...
Famous hacker you say?!
 perhaps he could be of use after all... ^-^

Could have asked me that though I don't engage in illegal activity of any kind nor discuss that on a public forum ;)
Fair enough.
 I was trying to make light of the situation since we really don't know anything concrete about I-IS-TROLL-A.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: AsheDina on July 05, 2008, 11:21:30 PM
Chaim, I respectfully dissent from you here. This guy does not want to ask any legitimate questions whatsoever. His mind is completely made-up about JTF.

Meir Cohen, doesn't "iratollah" sound a lot like "ayatollah" to you?

It sounds like a parody to me, but he sounded pretty legitimate. I do have Jewish friends with similar views to what Iratollah has, including one that I have been unsucessful in bringing over to the forums, however is a gun nut.

I'm simply stating, aren't we throwing around a lot of accusations without evidence?

  
 
  Tonight on paltalk- we fought back HARD, David ben Moshe, Cohen and myself- I FINALLY got on the mic, and said: "We are NOT going to sit back ANYMORE and have to 'defend' ourselves against you that hate us, the FACTS ARE: Jews are the smartest of people/mankind, with inventions, ETC.. if it was not for the Jews you would not have Broadway- AND, if it WASNT FOR US JEWS, you folks would not even know how to WASH YOUR HANDS after going to the bathroom. DEAL WITH IT, G-d just made us a little BETTER."   ~Well, you all may not agree- but WHOA! Did that ever spark up a GREAT Debate- and we found out who hates our gutts.   And I am NOT trying to be arrogant- So- to the really GREAT Christians on the forum, it was NOT meant for you- not at all- I LOVE YOU Christians- I, myself am VERY well read in the N.T. and LOVE reading the N.T.  Also- I believe C.F to be VERY intellect, and Masterwolf, the BRAVEST man on THIS forum.


  Well, I edited here, it is not going to be said of me, that I dont know how to unite. However, I will have to agree with your very first post Chaim, re: "iratollah".
  
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on July 05, 2008, 11:30:04 PM
I do not agree with banning everyone who disagrees with us.

If someone is a Nazi, they should be banned immediately. Indeed, if someone is a Nazi, they deserve to be killed. We don't debate Nazis and we don't tolerate Nazis.

However, this person's attack on us does not warrant banning. We should debate people who make idiotic attacks like this. It is good debating practice for our members, and sometimes we may end up convincing the person that we are right.

Many people disagree with us. We are a controversial organization. So what? If something isn't controversial, it's not important. People who do not violate the rules against personal attacks should not be banned. I am reversing the ban.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lisa on July 05, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
Somehow, I don't think Iratollah will be back though even if he is un-banned.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Lisa on July 05, 2008, 11:36:36 PM
Furthermore, I just noticed that he originally signed up with the email "[email protected]"  If I had seen that when I approve new members, I would have rejected him right there and then. 
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on July 05, 2008, 11:38:56 PM
Furthermore, I just noticed that he originally signed up with the email "[email protected]"  If I had seen that when I approve new members, I would have rejected him right there and then. 

Yes, I just saw that. OK, this guy should never have been approved as a member in the first place with an obscene email address like that. The ban is back on.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2008, 11:41:05 PM
There're too many Red Flags with this character, anyway. Don't worry about him.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 05, 2008, 11:59:48 PM
Furthermore, I just noticed that he originally signed up with the email "[email protected]"  If I had seen that when I approve new members, I would have rejected him right there and then. 

Yes, I just saw that. OK, this guy should never have been approved as a member in the first place with an obscene email address like that. The ban is back on.

LOL, I was against his banning until this point.
Title: Re: Banning Time: "Iratollah"
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on July 06, 2008, 12:08:59 AM
C.F.:  "Also somebody told me that Iratollah was a famous hacker..."

Good.

Maybe he'll hack up some phlegm for us!   :::D