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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: billwhite2 on July 10, 2008, 07:36:33 PM
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Even though I don't favor the idea of Obama being elected president, I have a feeling that the American public will not tolerate another Republican administration. Do the members of the JTF forum have an opinion?
Regards,
William Rawson White
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For my Serbia's concern NO ONE IS GOOD!!!!!
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I support McCain 100% even though I dont like him but he is the lesser of the evils
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Their both crap, but I'm voting lesser of the 2 evils.
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There is no great option, here but there is the realistic option, McCain will have my vote. Obama is a friggen nightmare, disaster, and there may not be an America to recover when he is through
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There's only possible choice:
McCain is the freight train to HELL on a slower train.
Obama is the Death of the United States.
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We don't like either candidate. But we are very definitely opposed to Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama. Hence Jewsagainstobama.com and the blog http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com
Having a black muslim President whom the media loves is a recipe for disaster.
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We don't like either candidate. But we are very definitely opposed to Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama. Hence Jewsagainstobama.com and the blog http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com
Having a black muslim President whom the media loves is a recipe for disaster.
but it's not the black skin we hate...we woudl have liked Alan Keyes way back when...It's Obama's record and decietfulness and the people he surrounds himself with which make him evil.
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neither... n.
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neither... n.
Right. Neither. both EVIL
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We at JTF have to support the Republican. They stick but you are basicly picking the cow dung that has a weaker smell
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John Mccain is the lesser of the evils. I'd perfer Chaom but, Mccain is the only option!
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Hate to use car analogies, but if Obama's gonna drive this country 90mph into a brick wall, McCain will do so at about 65mph. This country is declinig rapidly at, and while McCain and other presendential candidates afther him might offer different journey's, we'll still reach the same destination.
True conservative philosophy died with Calvin Coolidge. Everything since has been socialist-lite.
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since neither of them will stop the oslo-death-to-israel-process nor the road map back to auschwitz... i will not support either of them... and i will never ever again vote for another prez. candidate until one does and does so openly... to speak out against these atrocities against israel and the jewish people...
before i was 35 i voted for bobby kennedy on a write-in candidacy bec. even a dead bobby was better than any of the bozos running and on the ballot... now that i'm over 35... i vote for myself... each and everytime... i would make a far better prez. than either of these two jerks... nik. out
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McCain all the way.
Just thinking about the alternative makes my gut wrench.
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John McCain. He's not the ideal candidate but what choice do we really have.
Barack Hussein Obama is the most liberal/ left wing Senator. If Obama is elected President, he will turn this country into a complete Socialist nation. Obama is a Muslim. That's a fact! With the likelihood of one or more major terrorist attacks occurring against the U.S. the next 4 years. I don't even want to imagine the type of Supreme Court Judges Obama will seek to appoint. In essence, it's McCain or Bust!
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and if our great pal condi is his veep... what will you say and think then...? no... both are a disaster for us waiting to happen... no thank you... nu-uh... no way... not for me... nik.
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As horrific as Condi is, regardless of who John McCain chooses as his running mate, I plan on voting for him. The alternative ( Barack Hussein Obama ) is unthinkable.
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I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.
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I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.
Even if the punishment hits you too?????
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I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.
Even if the punishment hits you too?????
Of course! Here is my point - America, Israel and the West are on a path with McCain and his ilk roughly to the same point to which Obama is going to take a shortcut - unless there is a miracle, and we are not supposed rely on them, of course. I am an able bodied man who is very capable of protecting my young family.
Fast Forward 20-30 years. As an infirmed and incapable of action geriatric, I would hate to see my daughters and/or my grandchildren to live in the hell that our generations is preparing for them. I think the blood letting for America and Israel is in order so that brain dead populace can get the most precious and most missed qualities - a common sense and a desire to leave to our children a better place than we inherited.
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First off, there is no 'guarantee' that if the situation deteriorates or gets worse everyone will do teshuvah and restore "common sense." So that argument doesn't make much sense.
Secondly, regardless... .You desire a punishment?
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No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
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No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
Let me ask you something. Do you know the meaning of this organization? To prevent this Islamic un-American Jew hating fake-Christian, Muslim pig from getting this country in his dirty smelly hands. We are tryinf to prevent the cotastrophe from happening all together. So I think you need a more optimistic approach to this disaster waiting to happen, or we will never fix it. If you wnat Obama to destroy this country quicker than you are part of the problem. This is a forum of FAITH AND ACTION. And quite Frankly I dont see either from you sir. >:(
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No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
Let me ask you something. Do you know the meaning of this organization? To prevent this Islamic un-American Jew hating fake-Christian, Muslim pig from getting this country in his dirty smelly hands. We are tryinf to prevent the cotastrophe from happening all together. So I think you need a more optimistic approach to this disaster waiting to happen, or we will never fix it. If you wnat Obama to destroy this country quicker than you are part of the problem. This is a forum of FAITH AND ACTION. And quite Frankly I dont see either from you sir. >:(
You have a good point, but I was answering the original question - which is my personal view on the US election. Look at it from another view - Reagan would not be possible without the preceding Carter fiasco. If Carter were not so disasterous, you would have Bush senior not in 1988 but in 1980.
By no means I would sit idly and welcome Obama. In fact,today, one of the rare days when I had a lunch to myself, I've left about 10 messages on Youtube, commenting on various videos pro and anti Israel videos:
"Excellent video! JTF dot ORG and JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA dot ORG are the right places for Jews and righteous Gentiles to save America and Israel." My action are also supported by my regular donations to JTF. So, you are wrong on that count and you completely misunderstood my point.
I agree with you on a 2nd point - the faith is what I am lacking - I will admit that freely. I do believe that majority of people in USA are brainwashed and stupid and they will bring Obama to power. I do believe that majority of Jews in Israel are too daft and weak to get rid of the treacherous and corrupt government. This, by no means, implies that I would support or help Obama candidacy - I would do my best to expose this muslim snake.
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Have to vote for McCain just to cancel out some idiot liberal's vote for Nobama.
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No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
Let me ask you something. Do you know the meaning of this organization? To prevent this Islamic un-American Jew hating fake-Christian, Muslim pig from getting this country in his dirty smelly hands. We are tryinf to prevent the cotastrophe from happening all together. So I think you need a more optimistic approach to this disaster waiting to happen, or we will never fix it. If you wnat Obama to destroy this country quicker than you are part of the problem. This is a forum of FAITH AND ACTION. And quite Frankly I dont see either from you sir. >:(
You have a good point, but I was answering the original question - which is my personal view on the US election. Look at it from another view - Reagan would not be possible without the preceding Carter fiasco. If Carter were not so disasterous, you would have Bush senior not in 1988 but in 1980.
By no means I would sit idly and welcome Obama. In fact,today, one of the rare days when I had a lunch to myself, I've left about 10 messages on Youtube, commenting on various videos pro and anti Israel videos:
"Excellent video! JTF dot ORG and JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA dot ORG are the right places for Jews and righteous Gentiles to save America and Israel." My action are also supported by my regular donations to JTF. So, you are wrong on that count and you completely misunderstood my point.
I agree with you on a 2nd point - the faith is what I am lacking - I will admit that freely. I do believe that majority of people in USA are brainwashed and stupid and they will bring Obama to power. I do believe that majority of Jews in Israel are too daft and weak to get rid of the treacherous and corrupt government. This, by no means, implies that I would support or help Obama candidacy - I would do my best to expose this muslim snake.
I see your point. I don't blame you for lacking faith. But, you are part of JTF and that alone means you are trying to fix the mess.
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It makes no difference either way.
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a choice between tweedle di and tweedle dum... nik.
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a choice between tweedle di and tweedle dum... nik.
And tweedle-dums GF Hillary Eva Peron. The trinity of evil.
BTW: WHY did Bush NOT keep saying Iran was evil? Why did he not say that every day? It was the TRUTH. And WHY did people get soooooooooooo offended when he was the "Cowboy of TX?" Now he is like the Wuss of W.D.C.
WHY did he apologize for saying "Wanted, Dead or Alive?" What happened to Bush- why has he been SO MIA these last 4 years?
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a choice between tweedle di and tweedle dum... nik.
And tweedle-dums GF Hillary Eva Peron. The trinity of evil.
BTW: WHY did Bush NOT keep saying Iran was evil? Why did he not say that every day? It was the TRUTH. And WHY did people get soooooooooooo offended when he was the "Cowboy of TX?" Now he is like the Wuss of W.D.C.
WHY did he apologize for saying "Wanted, Dead or Alive?" What happened to Bush- why has he been SO MIA these last 4 years?
He's getting old and mellow, we need a new cowboy!
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he never was what you all thought he was... he was never actually concerned with our safety and security in the u.s. nor with israel's... he was always a tool of the nwo just laying the ground work to encircle and dest. isr. and control the entire middle east thru their surrogate shiites and fund. islamic terrorists... for the umpteenth time... al qaeda means the "data base" and as such it is a file in a cia/nsa computer and is their creation... the slime run the terrorists and tell them what to do for them... that's why they are all still standing and getting stronger 7 years into a supposedly declared "generational war to the death on terror..." what a hoax!!! and we are such utter saps to have bought this huge lie... hook, line and sinker... this is the biggest whopper ever told of all-time... there is no war on terror... only a slime-engineered attack on america to allow them carte blanche permission to operate around the globe with everyone to afraid to challenge them or even merely question them what the hell they're doing and why... your angst and perplexity would be humorous if the situation weren't so grave and all of us not in such dire danger brought about bec. of our own naivete and complete stupidity... nik. out...
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How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States?
As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota?
The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America?
The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?
Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya's history.
Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa, a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile.
Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'.
Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers.
Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa.
Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception, because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts.
Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.
Where is the bloodhound American 'free press' who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case?
Where are our nation's reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush's 'Skull and Bones' club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work?
Why haven't 'newsmen' pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries?
Where are the stories about this candidate's cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? (WHOM OBAMA WENT TO KENYA TO CAMPAIGN FOR)
Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent?
Why haven't they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this 'out of nowhere' Democrat candidate or the fact that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his 'close pastor friend and mentor' met with Middle East terrorist Muammar Qaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)?
Why isn't the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?
As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history.
Why has the American mainstream media clammed up on any negative reporting on Barak Hussein Obama?
Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton's name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name?
Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from mainstream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth?
Why isn't our media connecting the dots with Islam?
Why do they focus on 'those bad American soldiers' while Islam slaughters non-Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe?
Why does our media refer to Darfur as 'ethnic cleansing' instead of what it really is: Muslims killing non-Muslims!
There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to pique the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?
A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohammed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood.
'The process of settlement' of Muslims in America, Akram explained, 'is a civilization jihad process.' This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in 'America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions.'
There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press?
Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings forth a volley of 'racist' from the left-wing Democrat crowd.
Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for 'The Manchurian Candidate' or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation's White House?
Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic Sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States?
Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to disarm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability?
Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?
Change for America? What change? To become another 'nation of Islam'?
Reprinted with permission
Rich Carroll 2008