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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on July 11, 2008, 10:43:01 AM
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Barack Hussein Obama now has a 5% lead over John McCain in the leftwing Democrat state of New Jersey, according to the Rasmussen poll. If this is true, then perhaps JTFers in neighboring New York should concentrate on defeating Obama in New Jersey, in addition to what we are doing in Ohio. Here are the poll results:
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_jersey/election_2008_new_jersey_presidential_election
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NJ is a hotbed for democrats but with recent democrat elected officials in NJ they have seen a wave of scum politicians. It is worth a shot to get intouch with newspapers in South Jersey, not North cause North Jersey is Newark and so forth that has a very strong black population, South Jersey is more white Irish and so forth that can be reached out to. I will look into any Atlantic or Cape May area papers we can use.
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New Jersey is predominately white ethnic Catholic. The largest white voting blocs are Italian Americans and Irish Americans. And there is a large Jewish population in New Jersey.
So Jerseyites are ethnically similar to New Yorkers.
And Jerseyites are also culturally similar to New Yorkers. They speak the same way we do.
New York JTFers can relate well and communicate well with Jerseyites. This is something we will have to consider as we ponder where we can make the biggest difference in this election. Let's see what the upcoming other polls tell us about New Jersey. If it looks like it's going to be close, I think we should seriously consider making a big effort in the Jersey newspapers - there are many of them to choose from.
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Chaim but Patterson, Jersey City, Newark and some of the other snakepits in NJ in which their are only Muslims, Shvartzes and illegals will be going entirely for Osama so we will really have to work hard at this.
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Chaim but Patterson, Jersey City, Newark and some of the other snakepits in NJ in which their are only Muslims, Shvartzes and illegals will be going entirely for Osama so we will really have to work hard at this.
Here are the following areas that is mostly a waste of time cause the population of blacks are so huge in these Jersey areas
Newark don't bother
Camden for sure don't bother
Atlanic City/Philly cross way don't bother
I wish we could but blacks will without even 2nd guessing 98 percent atleast will vote Obama.
But here are areas you can concentrate on
Long Beach Island very very ethnic Irish Catholics ( I know cause of Beach Haven )
For sure Cape may and Atlantic county (But with Atlantic County the out skirts of Atlantic City)
Mainly the coastal area are majority white business owners and have seen the results of the Democrats basically hurting business you can use that to help
Also South West NJ is for sure a good target. My advise becarefull of North Jersy, Tom's River and North to the Jersey side of the Hudson.
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NJ is a hotbed for democrats but with recent democrat elected officials in NJ they have seen a wave of scum politicians. It is worth a shot to get intouch with newspapers in South Jersey, not North cause North Jersey is Newark and so forth that has a very strong black population, South Jersey is more white Irish and so forth that can be reached out to. I will look into any Atlantic or Cape May area papers we can use.
But the north does have well-to-do upper middle class people who would most likely vote republican anyway (I hope)...And even we were posted in Newark, where we don't have a chance to convince blacks (for obvious reasons), it's still good to get our name out there even if we come off to be controversial...the more the better..
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Chaim but Patterson, Jersey City, Newark and some of the other snakepits in NJ in which their are only Muslims, Shvartzes and illegals will be going entirely for Osama so we will really have to work hard at this.
Here are the following areas that is mostly a waste of time cause the population of blacks are so huge in these Jersey areas
Newark don't bother
Camden for sure don't bother
Atlanic City/Philly cross way don't bother
I wish we could but blacks will without even 2nd guessing 98 percent atleast will vote Obama.
But here are areas you can concentrate on
Long Beach Island very very ethnic Irish Catholics ( I know cause of Beach Haven )
For sure Cape may and Atlantic county (But with Atlantic County the out skirts of Atlantic City)
Mainly the coastal area are majority white business owners and have seen the results of the Democrats basically hurting business you can use that to help
Also South West NJ is for sure a good target. My advise becarefull of North Jersy, Tom's River and North to the Jersey side of the Hudson.
Livingston, West Orange, Verona..some sizable orthodox Jewish population...maybe even to speak at some shuls, Chaim...
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Wikipedia has a list of the congressional reps from the House of Representatives for each state.
When you click on names of congressional reps, you could click on names and district to see the geographic description of it.
You could also look at how close reps were in their elections in 06 to see if the geographic area of particular seats are basically toss ups or whether they're mostly Democrat or Republican.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress#Members
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Even if Barack Hussein Obama ends up winning New Jersey, if he has to invest significant time and money into the Garden State, that can only help John McCain in one or more other battleground states.
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Even if Barack Hussein Obama ends up winning New Jersey, if he has to invest significant time and money into the Garden State, that can only help John McCain in one or more other battleground states.
That's an excellent point. That would usually be a state that's in the democrat's back pocket. Even if we fail to swing the state with our push, we can help divert his resources toward attempting to win it.
Chaim, as some others brought up this idea, I think an appearance at the Orthodox shuls in NJ would be an EXCELLENT way to reach out to the Jewish voters AND to spread word about JTF/hayamin haamiti. If packaged right, it could really open people's eyes. ie bringing up the point that JNF steals Jewish money and uses it for nefarious purposes (buys land for arabs instead), other Jewish 'federation' type charities doing a lot of nothing, nobody helping the "troops on the ground" the footsoldiers in Judea and Samaria, except us. That can go a long way. And of course to encourage people not to vote for Obama. But often visitors from out of town can be advertised in the Shabbos bulletin, maybe for a motzei shabbos talk (although in the summer like this, shabbos is ending pretty late, so this might not be best).
If the talk is really good, you can encourage people to make out a check, maybe have a small item you can sell, related to Kahanism. I have seen people sell their books this way.
But otherwise it is certainly a good in-your-face kind of way to spread the JTF roots into NJ area and get two birds with one stone by campaigning against Obama in a potential swing state.
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I just saw today on TV there is now the gap getting tighter across the country 44% Obama 41% McCain, and this is without including the Independent voters and pro McCain Democrats. I just hope he blunders so badly on his own that Obama starts sinking like a rock that his own mouth will be his swiftboat.
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Forget about Jersey, the key state is next door.... Pennsylvania. If Obama doesnt win it, he aint getting elected period.
McCain has a very decent shot of taking it, with all the white working class voters that rejected Obama during the primary.
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The following web page specifically shows by state which ones are close and probably which ones we should and should not concentrate our effort on.
It also gives the electoral vote breakdown.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/