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Title: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 27, 2007, 09:45:23 AM
The original topic name was "African admixture in Eastern European Jews?" but was removed because The Administration found it unfit for The JTF Forum. 

A recent study from Ben-Gurion University found that 3.1% of Polish Jews and 1.3% of Russian Jews in Israel carry mtdna haplogroups L1 or L2, which are native to Sub-Saharan Africa and and are established markers of Sub-Saharan African admixture.

Here's a link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?tmpl=NoSidebarfile&db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=17245410&dopt=Abstract) to an abstract of the study, which unfortunately does not contain any reference to the above data. However, a well known scientific blogger (http://dienekes.blogspot.com/) with access to the study has been kind enough to scan and post a table (http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ish7688voT0/RbjecC2Y12I/AAAAAAAAAAY/4tHi_mxOUwA/s1600-h/jews.jpg) from the paper that includes the relevant data.

I guess this explains why some Ashkenazim have very tightly curled hair, almost making them resemble mulattoes.


(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8416/ashkmizrahicoupleke9.jpg)


History buffs, any idea how this admixture ended up in the Eastern European Jewish gene pool?

Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 27, 2007, 10:31:20 AM
grumpy, you're a fraud spreading malicious propaganda

Here's why you are a fraud, based on excerpts from your own post:

"...A recent study from Ben-Gurion University..."

-Really?
What year?
Which scientists conducted the study?
Which scientists wrote the article?
Which scientists have reviewed and verified "the study"?

"[Here's a link to an abstract of the study, which unforunately does not contain any reference to the above data"/i]

-an "abstract of the study" which does not reference the specific data upon which the actual "study" in question makes its claim to scientific discovery, simply put, is a bunch of horsecrap gobbledygook which I would expect from Calypso Louis.  However, the lie presented here is very clever propaganda more characteristic of the modern neo-Nazis.

-In summation:  your lie that many Jews are actually of sub-Saharan negro origin, is your own evil creation, with no basis in fact whatsoever.

"However, a well known scientific blogger with access to the study has been kind enough to scan and post a table from the paper"

-yeah...sure...."well known scientific blogger"?
Gee!...I wonder just who that might be?.....maybe YOU, grumpy?  Scientists as a rule do not blog because
a)they're too busy doing research, and
b)they guard their work and research closely.

-I think he's only well-known to YOU, grumpy, being that YOU and "THE WELL-KNOWN SCIENTIST" ARE ONE AND THE SAME!

"I guess this explains why some Ashkenazim have very tightly curled hair, almost making them resemble mulattoes.
"


-Hey, grumpy,...you mean that after all the extensive research conducted by the unknown study done by unknown people in an unknown year and scientifically reviewed by unknowns, YOU'RE NOW WILLING TO "GUESS" THAT JEWS ARE ACTUALLY MULATTOES? 

That's "MIGHTY WHITE OF YA', as they say where I come from!
Make sure you pray to Mulatto Jesus every day to save your rotten piece of garbage self.

"History buffs, any idea how this admixture ended up in the Eastern European Jewish gene pool?"


-Yeah.
I am a historian.
And the answer is:
IT NEVER DID.

reason being, grumpy, is that unlike your father, your mother and your sisters, we JEWS don't sleep with negroes....we just let them mow our lawns and clean our houses.

Never attempt to outsmart a Jew.

You'll lose every time, just as you've lost this time, "grumpy".

Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: cjd on January 27, 2007, 10:50:39 AM
grumpy, I am looking at the picture of the young person in your post and you really have to be kidding when you say that this boy has any relation to a Mulatto. The facial features are wrong since anyone that I have ever met that  had black blood most always retains the trademark facial features. I don't see anything in this photo that remotely backs up you statements. Honestly I don't see the point your making.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 11:25:43 AM
Jewish U.S.Marine Capt KIA in Iraq Mulatto ? for sure not

 (http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1428/secherthumbvl9.jpg)

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Another Jewish Marine KIA
November 27, 2006




Captain Robert Secher was killed last month in Iraq.


A man who wanted so much to be a Marine that he went to boot camp at 17 is being mourned in Germantown.

Taps sounded at the West Tennessee Veterans Cemetery yesterday for Captain Robert Michael Secher, who was killed by a sniper’s bullet in Iraq.
At Secher’s funeral at Temple Israel, Rabbi Micah Greenstein recalled him as “the best friend you could ever have.”
Major Joe Russo recalled Secher as a Marine who led by example who—as Russo put it—“marched to the sound of the guns and continually asked to get himself into the fight."

Newsweek recently ran a story that used a collection of emails that Capt Secher had sent to his parents during his tour in Iraq (with his family’s permission).

From the narrative, Capt Secher seems to be a true patriot and the epitome of what is means to be a Marine.  I would encourage everyone to read his emails online and pass them onto friends and family.  I’m often asked by my own family if I speak to any of my peers in Iraq and if so, what is it like and what is the attitude of the troops stationed there.  Capt Secher’s emails are an excellent example of just that.  He was proud of what he was doing there, but he didn’t pull any punches on how he thought the war was being executed.  It’s an interesting and inspiring read.



You can read the Newsweek article here,
sign a guestbook for his family here,
hear a moving eulogy about him here
and read about his hometown reception here.

Captain Secher’s wishes were that any money sent in memory of him go directly to:
Marines/Iraq Legal Defense Fund
c/o Hon. Victor E. Ramirez
P.O. Box 1255
Solana Beach, CA 92075

or

Injured Marine Semper Fi Fund
825 College Blvd.
Suite 102, PMB 609
Oceanside,CA 92057

Semper Fi Captain Secher, your service will not be forgotten
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on January 27, 2007, 12:03:51 PM
A recent study from Ben-Gurion University found that 3.1% of Polish Jews and 1.3% of Russian Jews in Israel carry mtdna haplogroups L1 or L2, which are native to Sub-Saharan Africa and and are established markers of Sub-Saharan African admixture.




Well I for one do not consider 'the Jews' to be a 'race'.  Not a single word in the Torah of which I am aware states that a Jewish person is born with physical or even intellectual characteristics which are markedly different from that of other peoples.  Being Jewish if I have seen it right is a spiritual, soulful, and usually also a cultural/national state.

I guess some people do not want to look at the astonishing racial diversity among different groups of Jews and state the obvious, i.e., that being Jewish isn't a racial designation.  So there's no point arguing on those grounds any more.

As for admixture, there is nothing Jewish about that either.  I happen to know, living in Britain, more than a few Polish shiksas who absolutely adore sleeping with [censored].  Some Russian girls too.  A white woman's lust for black men is independent of whether she is Jewish or not.  It is a purely primordial, evil instinct.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 27, 2007, 12:44:28 PM
What year?
Which scientists conducted the study?
Which scientists wrote the article?
All that information is available at the following link, which I've already provided.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?tmpl=NoSidebarfile&db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=17245410&dopt=Abstract
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Which scientists have reviewed and verified "the study"?
It's being published in the European Journal of Human Genetics.
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-an "abstract of the study" which does not reference the specific data upon which the actual "study" in question makes its claim to scientific discovery, simply put, is a bunch of horsecrap gobbledygook which I would expect from Calypso Louis.  However, the lie presented here is very clever propaganda more characteristic of the modern neo-Nazis.
The discovery of Sub-Saharan admixture is not mentioned in the abstract because A) It is statistically small and B) Sub-Saharan admixture in Jewish populations is OLD NEWS.

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-In summation:  your lie that many Jews are actually of sub-Saharan negro origin, is your own evil creation, with no basis in fact whatsoever.
No one said that Jews are of Sub-Saharan origin. The study shows that Russian and Polish Jews have Sub-Saharan ADMIXTURE.

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Gee!...I wonder just who that might be?.....maybe YOU, grumpy?  Scientists as a rule do not blog because
a)they're too busy doing research, and
b)they guard their work and research closely.
The guy is not blogging about his own research (if he even has any), he's just posting some data from a paper featured in a respected journal.

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-I think he's only well-known to YOU, grumpy, being that YOU and "THE WELL-KNOWN SCIENTIST" ARE ONE AND THE SAME!
Wow, your stupidity knows no bounds.

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-Hey, grumpy,...you mean that after all the extensive research conducted by the unknown study done by unknown people in an unknown year and scientifically reviewed by unknowns, YOU'RE NOW WILLING TO "GUESS" THAT JEWS ARE ACTUALLY MULATTOES?
No one said that Jews are mulattoes. I merely pointed out that A) Polish and Russian Jews apparently have (minor) African ancestry and B) Some Ashkenazi Jews have tightly curled hair that looks similar to mulatto hair.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 27, 2007, 12:50:40 PM


As for admixture, there is nothing Jewish about that either.  I happen to know, living in Britain, more than a few Polish shiksas who absolutely adore sleeping with schvartzas.  Some Russian girls too.  A white woman's lust for black men is independent of whether she is Jewish or not.  It is a purely primordial, evil instinct.
Actually since the admixture that was discovered in this recent study was found in the mtdna (which is only passed down by the mother), it was the result of Jewish men fathering mulattoes by black women.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 27, 2007, 01:59:08 PM
SO FAR, GRUMPY, YOU'VE POINTED OUT NOTHING EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A MORON WHO READS THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE PROPAGANDA AND ACTUALLY BELIEVES
IT.

YOU CONTINUE ONLY TO EVADE PROVIDING DOCUMENTABLE FACTS, FIGURES, AND EVIDENCE.

YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO REFER TO MY "STUPIDITY" ALL THAT YOU WANT; YOU'RE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO [censored] me OFF NO MATTER WHAT NAMES OR EPITHETS YOU USE IN REFERRING TO ME.

"Jesus couldn't have been a Jew, and I don't need any scientific evidence to know that." -- actual quote of Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda of The Third Reich
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
A recent study from Ben-Gurion University found that 3.1% of Polish Jews and 1.3% of Russian Jews in Israel carry mtdna haplogroups L1 or L2, which are native to Sub-Saharan Africa and and are established markers of Sub-Saharan African admixture.




Well I for one do not consider 'the Jews' to be a 'race'.  Not a single word in the Torah of which I am aware states that a Jewish person is born with physical or even intellectual characteristics which are markedly different from that of other peoples.  Being Jewish if I have seen it right is a spiritual, soulful, and usually also a cultural/national state.

I guess some people do not want to look at the astonishing racial diversity among different groups of Jews and state the obvious, i.e., that being Jewish isn't a racial designation.  So there's no point arguing on those grounds any more.

As for admixture, there is nothing Jewish about that either.  I happen to know, living in Britain, more than a few Polish shiksas who absolutely adore sleeping with schvartzas.  Some Russian girls too.  A white woman's lust for black men is independent of whether she is Jewish or not.  It is a purely primordial, evil instinct.
Well i have to agree here with Fruit of thy loins,at least in my neighborhood  about 1/3 of the non Jewish girls have mulata mongrel kids.Many of the white blonde and non blonde girls have svartze boyfriends.With more mulatas on the way.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 02:30:23 PM
http://www.theinternetcollege.org/bw8.htm

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Today, interracial sex is one of the most popular Internet photo categories -- primarily, it would seem, between blond women and well-endowed black men.

The women involved sign the required legal release and the husbands or boyfriends often take the photos and videos for posting on restricted-access web sites.

In this section Dr. Lee analyzes some of the motivation for black-on-white sex.

In some urban housewife circles there appears to be bragging rights associated with seeing a "black stud" or "black stallion" lover.

The case of "Laura," which is covered in some detail, details not only a black-on-white affair, but the complex interpersonal dynamics that motivated it from the perspectives of the three people involved..

 


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In fact, among some white women having a black lover is considered the "in thing."

This is also true among many white girls in high school.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 27, 2007, 02:34:21 PM
Why are you guys taking this so hard? Dismissing a study from an Israeli university as Nazi propaganda. I must say I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 27, 2007, 03:20:42 PM
"...Why are you guys taking this so hard? Dismissing a study from an Israeli university as Nazi propaganda. I must say I'm disappointed..."

Don't let it upset you.

I am disappointed just by knowing that YOU are on this forum.

I always dismiss any hearsay evidence reported as fact by someone who also is unable to provide even the most minimal facts, whilst having already "guessed" as to the "historical" reasons the hearsay & alleged academic report "is true".

This is my rule for everyday, run-of-the-mill propaganda from so-called "experts" in the media.

However, when hearsay is reported as fact which involves Jewish / black miscegenation and/or other "racial impurities" such as "curly hair", it is all too obvious that the reporter is far less than credible.

To believe in such nonsense, one must ask themselves questions as to the percentage of negro blood accounting for the quite large number of Nederlanders with blonde tight curly hair, or the percentage of Jew blood accounting for the numerous Germans with hook noses, not to mention the number of rapes by negroes on whites which of course is the only possible reason as to why there are so many thousands of light-skinned coloureds like Congressman Keith Ellison running loose.



Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 27, 2007, 03:39:48 PM
MassuhDGoodName,

I've already posted genetic evidence from Jews at a Jewish university. If you don't understand the terminology, Google it.

Please post examples of these alleged Nederlanders with tightly curled hair. I have NEVER in my life seen a non-Jewish white with NAPPY hair like the young man in the photo above.

Give me a break.

Even Jews say that kinky hair is characteristically Jewish trait.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on January 27, 2007, 04:06:08 PM
i have to agree here with Fruit of thy loins,at least in my neighborhood  about 1/3 of the non Jewish girls have mulata mongrel kids.Many of the white blonde and non blonde girls have svartze boyfriends.With more mulatas on the way.



Do you live somewhere in Britain?
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on January 27, 2007, 04:36:52 PM
The site you linked to is superb.  The woman who wrote it knows exactly how white women prefer black men.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 04:38:38 PM
i have to agree here with Fruit of thy loins,at least in my neighborhood  about 1/3 of the non Jewish girls have mulata mongrel kids.Many of the white blonde and non blonde girls have svartze boyfriends.With more mulatas on the way.




Do you live somewhere in Britain?
No this is universal a yr or 2 ago newsweek or time had a cover   feature of the world race with a mixed type girl on the cover.The media encourages this the world over
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 04:41:35 PM
The site you linked to is superb.  The woman who wrote it knows exactly how white women prefer black men.
Yes it's not a racist site i think it's from some school,i like the part where it says the slavemasters wifes used to run of and have sex with the slave.This it not new ???
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on January 27, 2007, 04:50:52 PM
The site you linked to is superb.  The woman who wrote it knows exactly how white women prefer black men.
Yes it's not a racist site i think it's from some school,i like the part where it says the slavemasters wifes used to run of and have sex with the slave.This it not new ???



I agree that it did happen in the past.  If it didn't, there would have been far less lynchings, burnings, etc.  There is historical record of white men in the 19th century writing in to newspapers complaining about seeing white women walking around on the arms of freed slaves.

The site pretty much draws on the white male's voyeuristic side, because it focuses mostly on testimonials from white women.  It does seem that beautiful white women get a lot of sensual pleasure out of being with black men.  What annoys me is the total lack of sympathy some white women have for white men who have mental anxieties about not being able to become popular with women.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 04:55:51 PM
The site you linked to is superb.  The woman who wrote it knows exactly how white women prefer black men.
Yes it's not a racist site i think it's from some school,i like the part where it says the slavemasters wifes used to run of and have sex with the slave.This it not new ???



I agree that it did happen in the past.  If it didn't, there would have been far less lynchings, burnings, etc.  There is historical record of white men in the 19th century writing in to newspapers complaining about seeing white women walking around on the arms of freed slaves.

The site pretty much draws on the white male's voyeuristic side, because it focuses mostly on testimonials from white women.  It does seem that beautiful white women get a lot of sensual pleasure out of being with black men.  What annoys me is the total lack of sympathy some white women have for white men who have mental anxieties about not being able to become popular with women.
Thats true but i think the tide will soon change,however my friend in Swansea Wales tells me they have that problem there as well however in Swansea they dealt with that problem :D
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on January 27, 2007, 04:58:28 PM
Thats true but i think the tide will soon change,however my friend in Swansea Wales tells me they have that problem there as well however in Swansea they dealt with that problem :D



I believe they solved the problem once before with the Race Riots.  Apparently Wales became a hotbed for inter-racial sex during World War I, perhaps the blacks came as replacement labour.  And when the white guys got home, after being gassed in the trenches, having limbs shot off, they saw their girls strolling about with blacks.  I firmly believe that British women have no shame whatever ....  ::)
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 27, 2007, 05:10:00 PM
Thats true but i think the tide will soon change,however my friend in Swansea Wales tells me they have that problem there as well however in Swansea they dealt with that problem :D



I believe they solved the problem once before with the Race Riots.  Apparently Wales became a hotbed for inter-racial sex during World War I, perhaps the blacks came as replacement labour.  And when the white guys got home, after being gassed in the trenches, having limbs shot off, they saw their girls strolling about with blacks.  I firmly believe that British women have no shame whatever ....  ::)
Thats true
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 27, 2007, 08:01:10 PM
grumpy writes:  "I have NEVER in my life seen a non-Jewish white with NAPPY hair like the young man in the photo above..."

I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVEN'T GRUMPY,
AND THE QUOTE ABOVE STATEMENT REVEALS BOTH THE TOTAL TRUTH OF YOUR ORIGINAL POST, PLUS HOW UNBELIEVABLY IGNORANT YOU ARE ABOUT THE WORLD IN WHICH YOU LIVE.

ETHNIC GROUPS WITH TIGHT KINKY CURLS ARE FOUND IN ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY IN WORLD, FROM IRELAND TO FRISLAND, FROM DEUTSCHLAND TO POLYNESIA TO KANKOKU KOREA.




Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 29, 2007, 09:09:55 AM


This hair feature is Semitic. Many Sfardic Jews, especially Yemenites have it. It is not related to blacks at all.


Any "Semite" with hair like that has black blood, period.

Yemenite Arabs are 20% black. A study of Yemenite Jews found 5% subsaharan mtdna.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on January 29, 2007, 10:56:36 AM

ETHNIC GROUPS WITH TIGHT KINKY CURLS ARE FOUND IN ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY IN WORLD, FROM IRELAND TO FRISLAND, FROM DEUTSCHLAND TO POLYNESIA TO KANKOKU KOREA.
I know that there are people with kinky hair in Polynesia, but Korea? You're full of [censored]. And besides, I said that I've never seen non-jewish WHITES with kinky hair. And I stand by that statement.

Please post pictures of these alleged white gentile Europeans with kinky hair like the man in the picture I posted.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on January 31, 2007, 08:39:03 AM
The original topic name was "African admixture in Eastern European Jews?" but was removed because The Administration found it unfit for The JTF Forum. 

A recent study from Ben-Gurion University found that 3.1% of Polish Jews and 1.3% of Russian Jews in Israel carry mtdna haplogroups L1 or L2, which are native to Sub-Saharan Africa and and are established markers of Sub-Saharan African admixture.

Here's a link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?tmpl=NoSidebarfile&db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=17245410&dopt=Abstract) to an abstract of the study, which unfortunately does not contain any reference to the above data. However, a well known scientific blogger (http://dienekes.blogspot.com/) with access to the study has been kind enough to scan and post a table (http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ish7688voT0/RbjecC2Y12I/AAAAAAAAAAY/4tHi_mxOUwA/s1600-h/jews.jpg) from the paper that includes the relevant data. same site you gave as a referance   Here's a link to an abstract of the study,

I guess this explains why some Ashkenazim have very tightly curled hair, almost making them resemble mulattoes.


(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8416/ashkmizrahicoupleke9.jpg)


History buffs, any idea how this admixture ended up in the Eastern European Jewish gene pool?


from the site you have as a link  brits negroid admixture    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2007/01/sub-saharan-african-y-chromosome.html
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on February 02, 2007, 07:51:15 AM
That man has no Negro blood in him what so ever. His features are roman. Sorry. No black blood in the man in the pic grumpy.
His facial features are indeed fully caucasoid, but his hair clearly is not.

3% of Ashkenazi Jews carry African mtdna. How can you be so sure that ANY Ashkenazi Jew has "no negro blood whatsoever?"
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on February 02, 2007, 08:00:30 AM
By the way, here's ANOTHER (earlier) Israeli peer-reviewed study that found 3% Sub-Saharan mtdna in Polish Jews, as well as 2% in Romanian Jews, 1.6% in Russian Jews, 3% in German Jews, and 2% in French Jews.

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v12/n5/suppinfo/5201156a.html
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on February 02, 2007, 08:25:46 AM
Grumpy, are you certain this guy (who has the bluest eyes I've ever seen) didn't just go to the hairdressers' and get a fancy cut?

If they can fly men to the moon and split the atom they can make a white man's hair look kinky.

Don't make a mountain of a mole hill.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on February 02, 2007, 09:11:51 AM
To grumpy jews are more closely related to shetland islanders and norwegians   http://racialreality.shorturl.com/

http://racialreality.shorturl.com/

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Haplogroup Q is rare in European populations as well.  It occurs in low percentages in Hungary (2.6%) and much higher percentages in Siberia (Tambets et al. 2004).  It can be found among populations in Norway and the Shetland Islands of Scotland where many Norwegian Vikings settled.  The frequency of Haplogroup Q among Scandinavians  is comparable to that found in Ashkenazim (Faux, private correspondence).  It appears that Norwegians/Shetlanders and Ashkenazi Jews possess the highest percentages of haplogroup Q of any populations in Europe – a rare link between two very different populations who may share a common ancestor from Central Asia or Eastern Europe.  Interestingly, Scandinavians and Shetlanders also possess high levels of haplogroup R1a1 as well, perhaps some of it originating from Central Asian sources (Faux, private correspondence).
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 02, 2007, 09:13:09 AM
Fruit replies to grumpy:  "...are you certain this guy (who has the bluest eyes I've ever seen) didn't just go to the hairdressers' and get a fancy cut?..."

FIRST OF ALL, FRUIT, LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT THAT "PHOTOSHOPPED" PICTURE FORGERY...NOTICE THAT THE "WOMAN" IS NOT A WOMAN AT ALL, BUT IN FACT APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY REAL MAN IN THAT PICTURE!

THEN LOOK AT "JERRY CURLS" ON THE RIGHT...

NOTICE THE ICE BLUE CONTACT LENSES....

SEE THE HAIRLINE WHERE THE CURLS WIG HAS MAKEUP TO BLEND IT INTO THE SCALP?.....

CLEARLY NO REAL WHITE MAN HAS EVER HAD HAIR THAT RESEMBLES THAT PHONY ORLON WIG....

NEITHER HAS ANY JEW OR META-JEW, FOR THAT MATTER.

YOU SEE, FRUIT,.....THE WHOLE "STUDY" IN DEBATE IS FRAUDULENT TO BEGIN WITH, BECAUSE AUTHORITIES HIGH UP WITH WHOM I AM IN REGULAR CONTACT TELL ME THAT IT IS NOTHING BUT A "RIG" JOB CONCOCTED BY MARXIST COMMUNISTS OF AFRICAN NEGRO ORIGIN.

THESE "FLY-BY" SIMIANS RECEIVED A GRANT FROM NONE OTHER THAN KHOFFI ANNUS HISOWNSELF, TO DEVISE A PLOY WHEREBY ALL PURE WHITE MEN ARE TO BE PSYCHOLOGICALLY DEBILITATED THROUGH PHONY U.N. PROPAGANDA "SCIENTIFIC STUDIES."

I NOW HOLD IN MY HAND A PHOTOCOPY, MARKED "EYES ONLY" OF THE ORIGINAL ORDER FROM THE U.N. TO THE SCIENTISTS IN QUESTION, WITH KHOFFI'S SIGNATURE AT THE BOTTOM TO PROVE IT!

FURTHERMORE, THE "SCIENTISTS" IN QUESTION ARE IN FACT HOMONIDS FROM BENIN, AND WATUSIS FROM EAST AFRICA....

THEY CHANGED THEIR GIVEN NAMES TO THOSE OF JEWISH NAMES, THREATENED THE GOV'T OF ISRAEL TO ISSUE "PERMANENT RESIDENT" VISAS TO THEM TO TEACH & STUDY IN ISRAEL...

I HAVE SEEN THEIR VISA PHOTOS....AND THEY ARE AS BLACK AS THE INSIDE OF A KIWI SHOE POLISH TIN!

ADDING INSULT TO THE INJURY TO ALL REAL WHITE PEOPLE, THE STUDY CLAIMS THAT THERE IS AN "ADMIXTURE FROM SUB-SAHARA DNA".

IT IS AN INDISPUTABLE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THE ENTIRE AFRICAN CONTINENT WERE ALL ACTUALLY PURE WHITE RACE!!!

ALL THESE PHONY HOTTENTOTS MANAGED TO PROVE IS THE RACIAL INTEGRITY OF THE PURE WHITE RACE!


CASE CLOSED!
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on February 02, 2007, 10:27:20 AM
Grumpy, are you certain this guy (who has the bluest eyes I've ever seen) didn't just go to the hairdressers' and get a fancy cut?


If they can fly men to the moon and split the atom they can make a white man's hair look kinky.
Er, that's within the relm of possibility, I suppose. But why search for a ridiculous explanation like that when A) Many other Jews have hair like him and B) TWO DIFFERENT GENETIC STUDIES CONFIRM THAT JEWS HAVE AFRICAN BLOOD?
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Don't make a mountain of a mole hill.
Who's making mountains? I don't see why this is such a big deal.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 02, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
grumpy continues his National Alliance Agenda:
"...3% of Ashkenazi Jews carry African mtdna. How can you be so sure that ANY Ashkenazi Jew has "no negro blood whatsoever?"..."

WE CAN'T BE 100% SURE, GRUMPY!....

OBVIOUSLY THE PURE WHITE JEWS IN POLAND, GERMANY, SCANDINAVIA, LITHUANIA, PRUSSIA, HUNGARY, ETC....

SOMEHOW ALLOWED AN APOSTATE TO JOIN THEIR RANKS!...

SOMEONE WHO HAD, THROUGH ILLICIT SEXUAL RELATIONS, CONTRACTED THE BAD GERMS FROM THE ALREADY POLLUTED EUROPEAN POPULATIONS WITHIN WHICH THEY WERE LIVING!

DON'T YOU SEE, GRUMPY?....

THE JEWS MUST HAVE CAUGHT NEGRITIS GERMS FROM THE BLONDE BLUE EYED BABES JUST LIKE THE ONES WHO TORTURE "FRUIT" BY BEGGING NEGROES TO "HAVE THEIR WAY WITH THEM"!

ONCE THE GERMS ARE IN THEIR BODIES, THEY'RE THERE TO STAY!

ONLY LATER, WHEN THEY PRETEND TO BE VIRGINS AND GET MARRIED IN THE CHURCH, DO THEY GIVE BIRTH TO EUROPEAN BABIES WHICH QUICKLY MORPH INTO SEMI-UBANGIS AND META-TROGLODYTES.

MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THE "SMILING BRIDE" IS LAUGHING AT HER ENTIRE TOWN; KNOWING SECRETLY THAT SHE PASSED ON THE NEGRITIS, INCLUDING TO INNOCENT JEWISH BOYS IN THE GHETTOS.

SO....THERE YOU HAVE IT!

EVEN IF THOSE RIDICULOUS STUDIES ARE ONLY 1/2 RIGHT, THEY PROVE THE FACTS ABOVE WITH SCIENTIFIC PRECISION.

SUMMARY:

THE JEWS, AN ANCIENT PEOPLE, SHARE SUB-SAHARAN DNA DATING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME, WHEN THE ENTIRE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT WAS PURE WHITE.

THE EUROPEANS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE A RELATIVELY NEW RACIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THEIR GENE POOL STARTED OUT QUITE GOOD.

SOON, GROWING RICH AND PROSPEROUS, THEIR WOMENFOLK BOUGHT TICKETS TO SAIL ON CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE TOURS TO AFRICA.

JUST TWO WEEKS LATER, THEY ALL BROUGHT HOME BLACK BLOOD TO SHARE WITH UNSUSPECTING MALE PARAMOURS.

THANKS, GRUMPY, FOR MAKING US AWARE OF THE DANGERS TO OUR RACIAL PURITY WHICH AWAIT US FOR OUR NOT ENDING THE EXILE BY RETURNING TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.



Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: grumpy on February 15, 2007, 09:05:53 AM
No, it's always been Jewish girls who had a soft spot for negroids. That's why roughly almost 1% of Ashkenazi Jews' male ancestors are black Africans.

Check out the data on y-chromosome haplotypes for Ashkenazi Jews:

http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Behar_contrasting.pdf


Here's an article about a Jewish mulatto girl who was conceived when her Jewish mother cheated on her Jewish husband with a black. The mother and cuckold lied to the girl about her true ancestry until she was in college. The genetic evidence above suggests that this sort of thing has been going on for some time.

http://www.ajlmagazine.com/content/012007/laceyschwartz.html
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 15, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
Re:  "grumpy's hidden agenda"

JUST LINK TO HIS "AMERICAN JEWISH LIFE" MAGAZINE ON HIS POSTS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF...

http://www.ajlmagazine.com/content/012007/laceyschwartz.html (http://www.ajlmagazine.com/content/012007/laceyschwartz.html)

IT'S A COMMUNIST/HOMOSEXUAL/LESBIAN/GAY/BI/TRANSGENDER PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER (known in the world of publishing as Creative Loafing).

EVERY BRANCH & ARM OF THIS INTERNATIONALIST FRONT "PUBLISHING" HOUSE SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY INVESTIGATED BY A HOUSE COMMITTEE ON UNAMERICAN ACTIVITIES.

"AJL NAMED BEST LOCAL MAGAZINE"

"Atlanta Jewish Life Magazine was just named the best local magazine in Atlanta by Creative Loafing in their annual "Best of Atlanta" issue which hits newsstands this week."

"You don't have to be Jewish to appreciate ATLANTA JEWISH LIFE. The magazine, which first published in the spring of 2001, comes out every other month and features short, sharply written articles on topics ranging from a Jewish girl's journey to learn more about her infamous mobster uncle to a profile on Jewish comedian (and former Atlantan) David Cross."

"...Editor Benyamin Cohen hasn't missed a beat as he's vested the publication with a young, hip sensibility..."

"...The July-August issue's cover, "Jewish Radio Mafia: A Photo Essay," is a brilliant, "Sopranos"-esque photo lineup of 12 of Atlanta's Jewish radio personalities, including 99X's Jimmy Baron and NPR's Lois Reitzes..."

<<"...I couldn't be more thrilled," says Michael Jacobson, AJL's publisher since January 2005...">>

<<"...It's gratifying to see other people finally notice the quality we're trying to achieve...">>

WELL IN THAT CASE, YOU SICK TWISTED KIKE, YOU SHOULD FEEL VERY THRILLED AND GRATIFIED, BECAUSE WE'VE DEFINITELY TAKEN NOTICE OF THE "QUALITY" WHICH YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH YOUR LYING POSTS & EVIL AGENDA.

GRUMPY EXPOSES THE TRUE REASON FOR HIS POSTS HERE WHICH ARE OBSESSED WITH CLAIMING JEWS ARE MULATTOES!


HERE IS THE LINK TO THE SOLE "GRUMPY'S FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDGE" USED FOR INFORMATION ON THE JEWISH PEOPLE:
 
http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Behar_contrasting.pdf (http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Behar_contrasting.pdf)[/url]

Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Yochanan Zev on February 15, 2007, 01:41:05 PM
No, it's always been Jewish girls who had a soft spot for negroids. That's why roughly almost 1% of Ashkenazi Jews' male ancestors are black Africans.

Check out the data on y-chromosome haplotypes for Ashkenazi Jews:

http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Behar_contrasting.pdf


Here's an article about a Jewish mulatto girl who was conceived when her Jewish mother cheated on her Jewish husband with a black. The mother and cuckold lied to the girl about her true ancestry until she was in college. The genetic evidence above suggests that this sort of thing has been going on for some time.

http://www.ajlmagazine.com/content/012007/laceyschwartz.html

That article was EXCELLENT!!  Not bad on the eyes either.  Thanks Grumpy.

YZ
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Yochanan Zev on February 15, 2007, 03:18:41 PM
Why did you ban him Yaacov?   You know, I know of at least one member here who is WIDELY know to be Jew Hater, whose contributions here are none but toxic rants about Muslims and Blacks.  But you have never said one thing about this poster.

Grumpy's "agenda" was not the least bit antisemitic. At least not to me anyway. The link he posted was to American Jewish Life magazine.  This month's feature happens to be on American black jews.  What's the problem with that?  I thought you were okay with black jews.

Why not challenge his information he's presenting instead of banning him?  He seemed well behaved and was willing to discuss the information he was presenting.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: babso on March 20, 2007, 08:04:59 PM
well, aren't we all descendants of adam / noah ? i read that the difference between every human being's dna on the planet is like .2% or something like this. i have also read an interesting article on how the human race has the different skin colors and features.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/OneBlood/chapter3.asp

i like this website as it has scientific backup for the bible and creationism...
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 21, 2007, 12:59:24 AM
Re:  "...well, aren't we all descendants of adam / noah ?..."

NO!

MOST PEOPLE, IT IS TRUE, ARE DESCENDANTS OF ADAM & EVE.

BUT...HOMOSEXUALS ARE DESCENDANTS OF ADAM AND STEVE!
:P
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on March 21, 2007, 02:31:54 AM
well, aren't we all descendants of adam / noah ? i read that the difference between every human being's dna on the planet is like .02% or .2% or something like this.



The ancient Greek art of sophistry, against which Plato (peace be upon him), heaped so much scorn, is alive and well among the albinos of today!

The difference between a gorilla and a human, genetically, is less than 2%.

The difference between a banana and a human being, genetically, is is less than 30%.

What's your point, bird-for-brains?

Although I will concede the point: most white people are genetically stupid and they are inferior to the brown, Semitic, and negroidal strains on Earth, who are able to absorb more melanin, and therefore get closer to G-d, - and this explains why they created all the first civilizations while the peely-wally German barbarians were still plucking berries from the tops of trees in Scandinavia!

 ;D
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: babso on March 21, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
dna make up is totally relevant to human characteristics and features -- obviously the different races came from somewhere and developed from somewhere

if you believe the book of genesis, then you believe that every human is a descendant of adam and eve -- it's almost mind boggling to believe that different skin colors developed over the centuries from the sun and environment -- it is perfectly plausible that something in the dna in eastern european jews is a strain from africa

it's not sophistry at all -- it's scientific fact -- we are still discovering new aspects of dna and physics in 2007

also, studies nowadays are totally political anyway -- it's hard to find information that hasn't been tainted
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 21, 2007, 03:38:19 PM
Their is probably small admixture in Ashkenazis, but have you seen the studies on the Mizhari Jews that misinterpet the minor admixtures. Their was alot going on in the world. Only [censored] type Nazis have the idea of racial purity, which is in itself a complicated to prove, many Europeans have Mongoliod and Negeriod markers and they don't know about it. I don't think he was comparing Ashkenazis to Black but saying their small admixture, but i thought Ashkenazis should show also Turkish markers as many of thems belive that their decendants of the Khazar Turks which is proven to [censored], however their is minor Arab blood probably in Mizharis and even a little Negeriod, same thing could said about Ashkenazis their minor admixture of Khazar and Negeriod that does not change that they belong to a different race their Semitic. For example many White Americans have Native American blood in minor levels, it does not change their race to a non-white one. Small admixtures mean nothing to me.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on March 21, 2007, 05:21:22 PM
Most Askanazi Jews show paternal dna and genes that are middle eastern
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 26, 2007, 12:51:42 PM
well, aren't we all descendants of adam / noah ? i read that the difference between every human being's dna on the planet is like .02% or .2% or something like this.



The ancient Greek art of sophistry, against which Plato (peace be upon him), heaped so much scorn, is alive and well among the albinos of today!

The difference between a gorilla and a human, genetically, is less than 2%.

The difference between a banana and a human being, genetically, is is less than 30%.

What's your point, bird-for-brains?

Although I will concede the point: most white people are genetically stupid and they are inferior to the brown, Semitic, and negroidal strains on Earth, who are able to absorb more melanin, and therefore get closer to G-d, - and this explains why they created all the first civilizations while the peely-wally German barbarians were still plucking berries from the tops of trees in Scandinavia!

 ;D


Semites ARE white!




Semities are Caucasiod but not White, their like the Northern Indians Caucasiod not White though! Like the Flips their Mongoliod but their dark skined.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: BabylonianJew on March 28, 2007, 12:12:24 PM
So you're saying Ashkenazim aren't white? I say Semites in their natural homeland (The Middle East) are dark white. But Jews got lighter in Europe and darker in Ethiopia. All Jews originally looked like Iraqi Jews. That is where Abraham was from and that is the oldest Jewish Diaspora community (Over 2,500 years old.).



Yes that what iam saying! Ashkenazim got lighter because they lived in Europe along time, in Ethiopia samthing and intermarriages.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: BabylonianJew on March 29, 2007, 12:22:16 AM
But the first Jews were still white. They were dark white.



Yes that what i mean, i agree their is no brown race! Brown's can be Mongoliod, Mongoliod-Caucasiod, and Caucasiod.
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: mord on March 29, 2007, 05:32:25 AM
What did Dovid Ha Melech look like?he was ruddy reddish
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: Yochanan Zev on March 29, 2007, 12:08:52 PM
The first man was probably a reddish brown.  Adam = Adom = red. 
Title: Re: Moron Compares Eastern European Jews To Blacks
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 29, 2007, 02:53:41 PM
Re:  "...The first man was probably a reddish brown.  Adam = Adom = red..."

NO!  NOT REDDISH BROWN!

HE WAS SO TINY AS TO BE MINISCULE!

ADAM = ATOM = ELECTRON MICROSCOPE NEEDED TO SEE HIM!