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Title: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 23, 2008, 11:41:42 PM
To my fellow JTFers,

No doubt that this is a very controversial forum. We have been called terrorist, radicals, and even racist by some. There is a difference between racism and making legitimate points. For example

Racist: "Them [censored] are destroying the earth and deserve to be hung upside down with a fork in there asses!"

JTF: "Affirmative action is wrong. There is plenty equality between blacks and whites. Most crimes are committed by people who are black due to the culture that is presented to them."

You see the difference. We just tell it like it is. We tell it straight forward. But racists (like those Nazi pigs) use empty headed remarks and preach for the death of black Americans. They use profanity because it boosts their egos. Us here at JTF actually have the knowledge and wits to come up with legit arguments that people can debate us on. I am against racism, however I am for equality and period. JTF is not racism.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 23, 2008, 11:46:04 PM
Amen
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: George on July 23, 2008, 11:54:37 PM
I once started a poll that asked if Blacks were genetically inferior and a little more than half of the voters believed that Blacks were genetically inferior. I later deleted that thread myself because the thread got over 120 replies and the topic was extremely heated. Anyone can start that poll again and they will see the same results. I don't think JTF is racist because the members of the organization and Chaim aren't even though most of the forum members are.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 12:08:19 AM
I don't think that I'm racist in the hateful "everybody not of my race should die" mentality. I do think there are natural differences among races but that every individual can choose to be righteous or not.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 12:11:06 AM
Racist:

"All schwartzes are stupid."

Logical:

"Most schwartzes are stupid."
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on July 24, 2008, 12:12:23 AM
Amen!!!!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 12:13:36 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 24, 2008, 12:14:28 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 12:15:09 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.

Thank you.  That is a direct quote from Chiam himself.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Manch on July 24, 2008, 12:16:12 AM
Racists overtones are hampering JTF's efforts. They attract people who we shed later anyway. Thanks for raising this issue!  However, we must call spade a spade and admit that majority of blacks are stupid and lazy, a product of black culture.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 24, 2008, 12:19:32 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.

Thank you.  That is a direct quote from Chiam himself.
I am aware that he said that Scriabin. He said that in response to one of my question on ask JTF.

P.S. How is the splinter forum?  :::D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: habiru on July 24, 2008, 12:19:56 AM
Racists overtones are hampering JTF's efforts. They attract people who we shed later anyway. Thanks for raising this issue!  However, we must call spade a spade and admit that majority of blacks are stupid and lazy, a product of black culture.

Not to mention backstabbing bastards. The Jews did everything for these lousy excuses for men, and how did they repay us?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 12:20:39 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.

Thank you.  That is a direct quote from Chiam himself.
How is the splinter forum?

I don't know.

They banned me some time ago.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 24, 2008, 12:21:21 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.

Thank you.  That is a direct quote from Chiam himself.
How is the splinter forum?

I don't know.

They banned me some time ago.
That is nice.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 12:22:14 AM
Never have so many honors been bestowed upon a people without any honor.
Scriabin, your beginning to sound like StørmFrønt.

Thank you.  That is a direct quote from Chiam himself.
How is the splinter forum?

I don't know.

They banned me some time ago.
That is nice.

Mmm-hmm.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on July 24, 2008, 12:26:21 AM
To my fellow JTFers,

No doubt that this is a very controversial forum. We have been called terrorist, radicals, and even racist by some. There is a difference between racism and making legitimate points. For example

Racist: "Them schvartzas are destroying the earth and deserve to be hung upside down with a fork in there donkeys!"

JTF: "Affirmative action is wrong. There is plenty equality between blacks and whites. Most crimes are committed by people who are black due to the culture that is presented to them."

You see the difference. We just tell it like it is. We tell it straight forward. But racists (like those Nazi pigs) use empty headed remarks and preach for the death of black Americans. They use profanity because it boosts their egos. Us here at JTF actually have the knowledge and wits to come up with legit arguments that people can debate us on. I am against racism, however I am for equality and period. JTF is not racism.

This is a very good point. We have to present factual information if we ever want to become a mass movement. Our important responsibility is to bring the public the truth.

There are so many people out there we could reach if they only heard our message.

Remember that the majority of people out there have been brainwashed with a P.C. message since birth. They get it on TV, in school, in the work place, and they haven't sorted out all the facts yet. They know that something is terribly wrong. They can see the obvious signs of problems and are ready for our message but religious Jews and Gentiles are not going to feel comfortable to discuss them if cursing, strong sexual language and humor, attacks on Christians or Jewish people, or threads claiming all blacks are genetically inferior abound. JTF does not endorse these views.

Please remember that this is a religious forum and we have very important goals. We have to stop obama from winning the presidency and we've got to save Israel from impending danger from it's leaders and nukes, and we have to save this planet from an onslaught of death from islamic lunatics.

-Shlomo
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 24, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
Honestly I do not see a whole lot of racism these days on our forum. The two biggest racists on the planet (Tina Greco and her boyfriend Newman) are thankfully gone from our movement forever. It is much cleaner now without those pigs.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: AsheDina on July 24, 2008, 01:01:11 AM
I am not a racist, I DONT like islam, PERIOD. 

I am sitting here watching the Story of Joseph- WOWOWOW Ben Kingsley- really GOOD.  O0 You all should watch this if you havent.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: George on July 24, 2008, 01:15:40 AM
Here is the definition of racist:

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usu. involving the idea that one's own race is superior.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based on such a doctrine.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Being a racist doesn't require having a nazi mentality or wanting to commit a genocide on the other races although many do.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 01:40:44 AM
Racists overtones are hampering JTF's efforts. They attract people who we shed later anyway. Thanks for raising this issue!  However, we must call spade a spade and admit that majority of blacks are stupid and lazy, a product of black culture.

Spade is a racial slur.  ;D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 24, 2008, 01:42:34 AM
Racists overtones are hampering JTF's efforts. They attract people who we shed later anyway. Thanks for raising this issue!  However, we must call spade a spade and admit that majority of blacks are stupid and lazy, a product of black culture.

Spade is a racial slur.  ;D

A lot of words can be construed as a racial slur
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 24, 2008, 01:59:07 AM
However, all racial slurs apply to some members of their respective races.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 24, 2008, 07:34:33 AM
I don't think that I'm racist in the hateful "everybody not of my race should die" mentality. I do think there are natural differences among races but that every individual can choose to be righteous or not.


Rubystars, I haves seen some of your previous posts on this subject and you do feel there is a difference..forgot what type.

I will claim that the only differences between races is physiological.  Some genes, we found out recently, are more susceptible to HIV, but those same genes are more resistent in causing one to get AIDS quickly.  Some genes allow for one when they work out to develop bigger muscles, but if they eat awful food and not exercise, they get fatter faster.  Some genes might cause one to think slower, but persevere in the right environment while in opposite circumstances, be dumb as a doornail.

My point is, the difference between races on a genetic point of view can be vast.  But coupled with environment can enhance certain skills better than another race with different genes.

So on one point, genes can give a blueprint to make one "superior" or "inferior" in a certain skill or mentality depending on the environment they come from more easily than another person wtih a different gene in the same environment.

Another example...I believe there might be a gene for being a good musician. (if I'm wrong, I'm sorry).  Someone with the musician gene will learn music better much faster than someone without the gene under the same teacher.  However, if the person without the gene keeps practicing, he might end up as good if not better than the genetic musician who decides he doesn't need to practice.  Hence, our genes don't create our free will....We do.  Some of us might be slower to learn math than others...the slower ones need to practice more.  And people who might be weaklings who don't develop muscles as well as others who have a gene that make them more muscular more easily, need to work out more often as well.

Race, perhaps, can be put in a similar generalization.  Blacks might have genes that make them more susceptible to be a certain way without much work, while caucasions have genes for something else.  However, that doesn't govern their free will.  Genes might make one more suceptible for something, but under the proper environment and support, both can become righteous or close to it.

in a nut shell, Genes do not govern free will...Environment influences free will.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: cjd on July 24, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Its the duty of good people to roundly point out and make fun of evil people. If this is not done after a while how would people know the difference between right and wrong or good and evil. To gag people from speaking the truth by crying racism and allowing evil groups to go on and drag the rest of society down is not only wrong its counter productive to society. This is what has put society in the position it is in today.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 10:27:58 AM
in a nut shell, Genes do not govern free will...Environment influences free will.

Dr. Dan there is a reason they never produced or innovated anything in the history of their whole pathetic race. Even the vast majority of "Black inventions" listed over and over again every February are a pile of [censored]. Whites invented traffic lights and peanut butter and almost everything else as well.

They never had the intellectual capacity in Africa to even invent the wheel until more advanced people showed it to them.

There are individual blacks who are intelligent, kind, and righteous, but they are definitely the exceptions.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Ulli on July 24, 2008, 10:49:20 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: mord on July 24, 2008, 10:57:20 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.
This is true the leftists try to make you agree by saying your a racist.If you don't vote for obama hussein they call you a racist,once you have to explain you lose
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 11:09:15 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.

Leftists think this negro is morally right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYtHfMxH5Ac&feature=related
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Ulli on July 24, 2008, 11:13:25 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.

Leftists think this negro is morally right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYtHfMxH5Ac&feature=related

I don't understand this black "Jews".

They believe in Jesus? Why they don't call themselve black Christians? ???
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 24, 2008, 11:14:07 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.

Leftists think this negro is morally right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYtHfMxH5Ac&feature=related

I don't understand this black "Jews".

They believe in Jesus? Why they don't call themselve black Christians? ???

They think Jesus was black
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
I don't understand this black "Jews".

They believe in Jesus? Why they don't call themselve black Christians? ???

They're too stupid to know the difference between the different religions. They seem more like Muslims to me but I think they're just confused and want to feel all important and chosen.  ;D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: mord on July 24, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
IMO we should not try to begin explaining and exculpating our positions.

I have a long process behind me. As I joined this forum I have had this anti-racist-ideology deep in me.

But now I understand, that this anti-racist ideology is a weapon of leftists to protect their political power and their authority on moral matters.

I don't accept their authority in any way.

Althrough I agree on the race issue 100% with Chaim, I will never explain any word I said in order not to appear racist.

This behaviour would be in fact accepting the leftists authority on moral matters.

Leftists think this negro is morally right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYtHfMxH5Ac&feature=related

I don't understand this black "Jews".

They believe in Jesus? Why they don't call themselve black Christians? ???
There not Jews or Christians that liberal girl is a idoit for crying.Btw i think this whole act is fake
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Ulli on July 24, 2008, 11:22:21 AM
Wow I have seen the end of the video.

Here you can see that leftists have a religion but without god. This scene with the girl and "Bubba Israel jr." recalls me at a performance of a mediaeval pardoner.

This is really sick. She wanted to be pardoned by this ape.

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
that liberal girl is a idoit for crying.Btw i think this whole act is fake

She has never seen the true, evil, ugly face of black hatred. From birth, practically, we whites in America are taught to respect other races, to be accepting and nonracist. She is obviously not a racist person. She probably would have been the type to vote for Obama because "we need a black president for a change." Getting a slap of reality of how vicious, cruel, and genocidal toward whites these blacks are made her cry because she had NO IDEA what they were really like. She made the mistake of millions of other white Americans make of "They're just like us, just a different skin color". No, they're not just like us. She found that "horrible" truth out.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: mord on July 24, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
These are backward savages they should be treated as such
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 11:58:58 AM
Wow I have seen the end of the video.

Here you can see that leftists have a religion but without G-d. This scene with the girl and "Bubba Israel jr." recalls me at a performance of a mediaeval pardoner.

This is really sick. She wanted to be pardoned by this ape.



The only thing that would satisfy apes like that is for her and all of the white race to be dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc

That wouldn't even satisfy them. Remember this speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qu9NdZYQA0

They want to dig them up and kill the whites again.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 24, 2008, 12:48:38 PM
Wow I have seen the end of the video.

Here you can see that leftists have a religion but without G-d. This scene with the girl and "Bubba Israel jr." recalls me at a performance of a mediaeval pardoner.

This is really sick. She wanted to be pardoned by this ape.



The only thing that would satisfy apes like that is for her and all of the white race to be dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc

That wouldn't even satisfy them. Remember this speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qu9NdZYQA0

They want to dig them up and kill the whites again.

It will be a great day when Mandela is dead
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 24, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
These are backward savages they should be treated as such
I will admit that the applied to about 65% of them. But dont forget about people like......... ???
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 24, 2008, 01:06:11 PM
These are backward savages they should be treated as such
I will admit that the applied to about 65% of them. But dont forget about people like......... ???

As Chaim said:

"Righteous blacks like Alan Keyes and Emmanuel McLittle.  If I had another hour I might remember another one."
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 24, 2008, 04:11:32 PM
in a nut shell, Genes do not govern free will...Environment influences free will.

Dr. Dan there is a reason they never produced or innovated anything in the history of their whole pathetic race. Even the vast majority of "Black inventions" listed over and over again every February are a pile of excrement. Whites invented traffic lights and peanut butter and almost everything else as well.

They never had the intellectual capacity in Africa to even invent the wheel until more advanced people showed it to them.

There are individual blacks who are intelligent, kind, and righteous, but they are definitely the exceptions.

You think it is in one's genetics to be able to invent things?  So I suppose since 99% if not more of the white population hasn't invented anything they are genetically pointless?  Rubystars, inventions mean nothing really.  As i said before, it's the environment that determines free will; not genetics.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 24, 2008, 04:14:46 PM
in a nut shell, Genes do not govern free will...Environment influences free will.

Dr. Dan there is a reason they never produced or innovated anything in the history of their whole pathetic race. Even the vast majority of "Black inventions" listed over and over again every February are a pile of excrement. Whites invented traffic lights and peanut butter and almost everything else as well.

They never had the intellectual capacity in Africa to even invent the wheel until more advanced people showed it to them.

There are individual blacks who are intelligent, kind, and righteous, but they are definitely the exceptions.
Ruby, most of European history was as ignorant and stupid as black civilization too. Between the fall of Rome and the Enlightenment, European peasant anti-Semites were as backwards as anyone in Zimbabwe. At one point, they decided to choose a lifestyle of culture and learning, but that has not been true of all of their history by any means. Also, what do you say about the Odinist/Asatru pagans who today are choosing to live like their Stone Age forefathers?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shamgar on July 24, 2008, 04:18:37 PM
I'm not rascist, just believe in calling a spade a spade...

Black people seem to pick poor leaders. And guess what they themselves say about not picking a good leader, " He/she acts too white".

Simple change in leadership:
Look what happened to South Africa, went from a nuclear power to a 4th world, crime ridden cess pool.
Look what happened to Rhodesia. Went from being the bread basket of Africa to where 99% of it's people are starving and looking for the UN to feed them.

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 24, 2008, 04:19:42 PM
From birth, practically, we whites in America are taught to respect other races, to be accepting and nonracist. She is obviously not a racist person. She probably would have been the type to vote for Obama because "we need a black president for a change." Getting a slap of reality of how vicious, cruel, and genocidal toward whites these blacks are made her cry because she had NO IDEA what they were really like. She made the mistake of millions of other white Americans make of "They're just like us, just a different skin color". No, they're not just like us. She found that "horrible" truth out.
Yesterday, I encountered a fiftysomething white lady who took issue with the fact that I oppose Obama. She told me not to get "brainwashed". I asked her, then, why she is supporting the candidate that the media and all the politicians want her to vote for. Her reply was that we need someone of a "different ethnicity" in power, instead of "more whites" as always. I pointed out to her that she is white, and to this she became very upset. "I am not white. I am black. Investigate. I am clearly black inside. That is fact." At that point I said "Okayyy..." and walked away.

100% true story. No joke.  :o ::)

I see another ten years before average American whites all think this way.  ::)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: TruthSpreader on July 24, 2008, 04:22:03 PM
Wow I have seen the end of the video.

Here you can see that leftists have a religion but without G-d. This scene with the girl and "Bubba Israel jr." recalls me at a performance of a mediaeval pardoner.

This is really sick. She wanted to be pardoned by this ape.



The only thing that would satisfy apes like that is for her and all of the white race to be dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc

That wouldn't even satisfy them. Remember this speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qu9NdZYQA0

They want to dig them up and kill the whites again.

It will be a great day when Mandela is dead

Indeed.  O0
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 24, 2008, 05:41:57 PM
From birth, practically, we whites in America are taught to respect other races, to be accepting and nonracist. She is obviously not a racist person. She probably would have been the type to vote for Obama because "we need a black president for a change." Getting a slap of reality of how vicious, cruel, and genocidal toward whites these blacks are made her cry because she had NO IDEA what they were really like. She made the mistake of millions of other white Americans make of "They're just like us, just a different skin color". No, they're not just like us. She found that "horrible" truth out.
Yesterday, I encountered a fiftysomething white lady who took issue with the fact that I oppose Obama. She told me not to get "brainwashed". I asked her, then, why she is supporting the candidate that the media and all the politicians want her to vote for. Her reply was that we need someone of a "different ethnicity" in power, instead of "more whites" as always. I pointed out to her that she is white, and to this she became very upset. "I am not white. I am black. Investigate. I am clearly black inside. That is fact." At that point I said "Okayyy..." and walked away.

100% true story. No joke.  :o ::)

I see another ten years before average American whites all think this way.  ::)


That woman is a racist if she wants a "different ethnicity."  It's not the ethnicity..it's the ability...white or black...dammit she's a racist!!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: zachor_ve_kavod on July 24, 2008, 05:49:25 PM
How can are doctrine be racist?  Chaim himself has acknowledged that the criticism he extends towards the black community is not directed at all blacks.  The truth is that many of them have been raised in a culture that is conducive to laziness, infidelity, irresponsibility, and notions of entitlement.  That certainly does not mean that blacks cannot rise above this type of mentality, and some do.

I think it is important to mention that much of the hostility (in my opinion) that Jews feel towards black is the result of Jews advocating on behalf of blacks and getting anti-Semitism in return.  It certainly make me feel indignant.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Bruicy Kibbutz on July 24, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
These are backward savages they should be treated as such
I will admit that the applied to about 65% of them. But dont forget about people like......... ???
Like george bush ?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 09:27:58 PM
Ruby, most of European history was as ignorant and stupid as black civilization too.
Between the fall of Rome and the Enlightenment, European peasant anti-Semites were as backwards as anyone in Zimbabwe.

They had technology which they used to farm, to transport things, to produce products. They were much more advanced than the spearchuckers down south, even if they weren't what would be considered advanced today.

Quote
At one point, they decided to choose a lifestyle of culture and learning, but that has not been true of all of their history by any means. Also, what do you say about the Odinist/Asatru pagans who today are choosing to live like their Stone Age forefathers?

I don't agree with returning to Odinism or Asatru because as a Christian I believe in Christianity. That, and many of the modern people who follow those religions tend to be virulently antisemitic. However, the stories that come down to us from those ancient religions were the basis for works like Lord of the Rings and other literature. Those ancient people had rich imagination and created characters and a complex theology that rivaled those of the Greco-Roman pantheon.

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
100% true story. No joke.  :o ::)

I see another ten years before average American whites all think this way.  ::)

Thank you for speaking out against Obama offline. Even if people don't do what you say, at least that means you're being active and helping JTF to fight against Obama. That's really cool of you :)

I feel sad for people like that, very sad. That's the product of years and years of intense brainwashing. Even she would know better than to go into a black neighborhood at night alone. lol She'd find out really quickly how "black" she really was when she heard the racial slurs as she was being attacked.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 24, 2008, 09:36:17 PM
Why are you talking about false gods?

This is not a Jewish thing to do...

muman613

PS: We know the wicked things that Rome did... Like destroying our Holy Temple and desecrating it with idols. This is not something I look up to.

PPS: You dont need false gods to write good literature. You know that both Batman and Superman were written by Jews.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on July 24, 2008, 09:41:53 PM
I am not a racist, I am a realist,, a huge difference.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 09:44:06 PM
All I'm saying is that the average North European following ancient Asatru or the average Roman following Roman paganism probably was a lot smarter than Laqueesha who was swinging from the trees. I don't like everything about European history either.

P.S. I'm not Jewish
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on July 24, 2008, 09:47:27 PM
Hey it is nobody's fault that for over 500 years in the United States they refuse to evolve.  How is that Asians come here with a complete different language, culture, reading and still they find a way to open a business to raise decent children and have a tight family structure?  It isn't racism it is reality.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 24, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
All I'm saying is that the average North European following ancient Asatru or the average Roman following Roman paganism probably was a lot smarter than Laqueesha who was swinging from the trees. I don't like everything about European history either.

P.S. I'm not Jewish

Thats OK... I was sure that it wouldnt phase anyone reading this forum...

;)

muman613
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 09:49:58 PM
Hey it is nobody's fault that for over 500 years in the United States they refuse to evolve.  How is that Asians come here with a complete different language, culture, reading and still they find a way to open a business to raise decent children and have a tight family structure?  It isn't racism it is reality.

Northeast Asians are on average smart people. :)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 24, 2008, 09:51:31 PM
All I'm saying is that the average North European following ancient Asatru or the average Roman following Roman paganism probably was a lot smarter than Laqueesha who was swinging from the trees. I don't like everything about European history either.

P.S. I'm not Jewish

Thats OK... I was sure that it wouldnt phase anyone reading this forum...

;)

muman613


C.F. brought it up. Come to think of it, the ancient Aztecs and other Indian tribes were much more advanced as far as technology and language, mythology, architecture, etc. than any African nation ever was. I should say sub-Saharan Africa, because North Africans were Caucasian (even if they  might not have been "white", that's hard to tell at this point). Like the Indians of the West, the North Africans also built pyramids, etc.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 02:57:10 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their asses off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 03:05:11 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

The ones who actually make it all the way into a tech class are going to be the cream of the crop so to speak. That doesn't say much about the IQ of the average African, just about those outstanding individuals. As a whole sub-Saharan Africa has produced little of worldwide importance except AIDS and Ebola.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 25, 2008, 03:07:15 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

L'Chaim NWJTF... Ill drink to that!

That gangster lifestyle is ruining lives. And everyone thinks its so cool to be a crackhead and pimp cause it sells CDs. So then they move up and get shot. Then they are really cool. You don't get street creds unless youve been shot at or killed. And they are scam artists and indignant because it is the way of the street. It is so sad because like you I have seen African Americans make it. At my company I know a few who are upright, driven, and intelligent. I agree it is not a genetic trait but a symptom of the degenerate culture sold by the media.

muman613
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 25, 2008, 03:13:46 AM
Ruby,

I dont want to be controversial, but my opinion of the average American student today is not so great. It is so sad that my American company has to bring people from India, China, Romania, France, Germany, and Russia to work in computer technology. American students are just not smart enough these days and those other countries have surpassed American education. I was lucky because I went to school in the 70s in a good part of Connecticut and got a great education by todays standards.

I know that there is an education problem, my girlfriend works in the public schools here in California. It is a mess because most class time is spent taking care of behavior problems of the students. Here most are latino and black so it is like a zoo.

muman613
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 03:16:28 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

The ones who actually make it all the way into a tech class are going to be the cream of the crop so to speak. That doesn't say much about the IQ of the average African, just about those outstanding individuals. As a whole sub-Saharan Africa has produced little of worldwide importance except AIDS and Ebola.

Sub Saharan Africa has always been a disaster and perhaps I'm feeling in a generous mood because I haven't been downtown in a while but I know there are righteous black people there.  The southern Christian Sudanese have suffered and have been murdered in the millions at the hands of Muslim Arabs.  They can be potential allies and I know where you're coming from just I would feel bad if a righteous Sudanese person came here and we turned him away.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 25, 2008, 03:22:50 AM
Hey it is nobody's fault that for over 500 years in the United States they refuse to evolve.  How is that Asians come here with a complete different language, culture, reading and still they find a way to open a business to raise decent children and have a tight family structure?  It isn't racism it is reality.


It's a good culture and good environment...not race or genes...

and you aren't saying anything incorrect...

certainly, if an Asian was raised in a bad environment with a bad way of thinking, he'll act like the typical schwartza
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 03:28:40 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

L'Chaim NWJTF... Ill drink to that!

That gangster lifestyle is ruining lives. And everyone thinks its so cool to be a crackhead and pimp cause it sells CDs. So then they move up and get shot. Then they are really cool. You don't get street creds unless you've been shot at or killed. And they are scam artists and indignant because it is the way of the street. It is so sad because like you I have seen African Americans make it. At my company I know a few who are upright, driven, and intelligent. I agree it is not a genetic trait but a symptom of the degenerate culture sold by the media.

muman613


It just shows that when they have a culture that promotes education, morality, discipline and respect, they can be the best neighbors and citizens.  The rap/hip hop way of life is a hybrid of immorality, anti-American black racism and criminality.  I'll take a black African neighbor who came here for an education rather than a White or Asian gangbanger as a neighbor.  Other races of people embrace hip hop more than whites I've seen because it makes them cool and they can easily fit into the role.  They can also more easily say that they are a disenfranchised minority as opposed to a white kid who has to explain his "street cred."  

Also, you see Muslims have completely embraced hip hop as a way to attack the Jews.

Like this Turkish Muslim Nazi rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMX7zEXk6kw

or to attack the Europeans and justify Arab/black violence and rioting against the French like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PNPkDMhRQ
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 25, 2008, 03:35:08 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

L'Chaim NWJTF... Ill drink to that!

That gangster lifestyle is ruining lives. And everyone thinks its so cool to be a crackhead and pimp cause it sells CDs. So then they move up and get shot. Then they are really cool. You don't get street creds unless you've been shot at or killed. And they are scam artists and indignant because it is the way of the street. It is so sad because like you I have seen African Americans make it. At my company I know a few who are upright, driven, and intelligent. I agree it is not a genetic trait but a symptom of the degenerate culture sold by the media.

muman613


It just shows that when they have a culture that promotes education, morality, discipline and respect, they can be the best neighbors and citizens.  The rap/hip hop way of life is a hybrid of immorality, anti-American black racism and criminality.  I'll take a black African neighbor who came here for an education rather than a White or Asian gangbanger as a neighbor.  Other races of people embrace hip hop more than whites I've seen because it makes them cool and they can easily fit into the role.  They can also more easily say that they are a disenfranchised minority as opposed to a white kid who has to explain his "street cred." 

Also, you see Muslims have completely embraced hip hop as a way to attack the Jews.

Like this Turkish Muslim Nazi rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMX7zEXk6kw

or to attack the Europeans and justify Arab/black violence and rioting against the French like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PNPkDMhRQ


Check this out:

Jewdah Macabee - Israelite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAFTMdHgMs8
Jewdah Macabee - Iron Like a Lion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmb2d-VQx8

Actually I like it...

muman613

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgz4wZFl20
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 03:49:09 AM
ok...it looks like there's definitly an exception there!   :D :D :D

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 03:56:40 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

I think I understand what you mean. I just find the idea of whites being called racist is another way of attacking whites. Any white who takes pride in their heritage is called a racist. Any white who points out the lack of achievement by any other race, but especially schvartzas, is called a racist. This is another symptom of schvartza worship. Any white who points out the evil, degrading, filthy "culture" of American schvartzas is called racist. "Racist" is a crock of excrement.
The ones who actually make it all the way into a tech class are going to be the cream of the crop so to speak. That doesn't say much about the IQ of the average African, just about those outstanding individuals. As a whole sub-Saharan Africa has produced little of worldwide importance except AIDS and Ebola.

Sub Saharan Africa has always been a disaster and perhaps I'm feeling in a generous mood because I haven't been downtown in a while but I know there are righteous black people there.  The southern Christian Sudanese have suffered and have been murdered in the millions at the hands of Muslim Arabs.  They can be potential allies and I know where you're coming from just I would feel bad if a righteous Sudanese person came here and we turned him away.

I don't want to turn anyone who is truly righteous away either.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 25, 2008, 03:57:17 AM
ok...it looks like there's definitly an exception there!   :D :D :D



Im glad you like it....  8)

muman613
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 04:19:07 AM
The Eastern Africans and Nubians did have an accomplished society.  Also, black people in America started successful schools and were on their way to succeeding as a people but they turned to angry, useless anti-Semitic leaders and fell into an amoral abyss.  There's a HUGE difference between the Ethiopians who come to America and become successful within 10 years and the American blacks who sit in their own complaining crap for generations.  Seriously, I was in a tech class and half of the people in the class were Eastern Africans and they worked their donkeys off.  The 2nd generation gets made fun of by the American blacks and are told they can't get girls.  They then dress like idiots and become evil at the dismay of their parents who worked so hard for them to get here.  The gangster culture needs to be destroyed because every race, White, Asian, American Indian, etc have millions of young people living an evil lifestyle. 

I think I understand what you mean. I just find the idea of whites being called racist is another way of attacking whites. Any white who takes pride in their heritage is called a racist. Any white who points out the lack of achievement by any other race, but especially schvartzas, is called a racist. This is another symptom of schvartza worship. Any white who points out the evil, degrading, filthy "culture" of American schvartzas is called racist. "Racist" is a crock of excrement.
The ones who actually make it all the way into a tech class are going to be the cream of the crop so to speak. That doesn't say much about the IQ of the average African, just about those outstanding individuals. As a whole sub-Saharan Africa has produced little of worldwide importance except AIDS and Ebola.

Sub Saharan Africa has always been a disaster and perhaps I'm feeling in a generous mood because I haven't been downtown in a while but I know there are righteous black people there.  The southern Christian Sudanese have suffered and have been murdered in the millions at the hands of Muslim Arabs.  They can be potential allies and I know where you're coming from just I would feel bad if a righteous Sudanese person came here and we turned him away.

I don't want to turn anyone who is truly righteous away either.

I saw this movie about the Lost Boys of Sudan and how they barely escaped the Muslim invasions who were castrating all the boys in this village.  They formed a group and the head of the group and all the boys went to America because their familes were all killed.  A bunch of them went to different parts of the country and they had a reunion in some city in the US some years later.  Some of the Suadanese were dressed all in rap hip hop clothes and the older boys told them that they looked like fools and were following the stupid Americans rather than the smart Americans.  They said "how can someone take you seriosuly like that?" They also said, "how can you go back home to Sudan like that?"The righteous older boys were trying to learn from America and bring it back to Sudan while the stupid ones were getting involved in the hip hop gang crap. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 09:53:41 AM
Why do they always have to come to America? America has enough people from the third world. America shouldn't be the world's toilet bowl for the world to send all its refugees.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 25, 2008, 10:28:42 AM
Why do they always have to come to America? America has enough people from the third world. America shouldn't be the world's toilet bowl for the world to send all its refugees.
U.S should of went under lockdown mode after 9/11 until every last Jihadist was either dead or dead!!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
To me it's ridiculous to even refer to white people as being racist when we're the ones having genocide committed against us through multiculturalism and propaganda that promotes race mixing. Some individuals are truly hateful, but as a whole, the white race is the LEAST racist of all.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 25, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
To me it's ridiculous to even refer to white people as being racist when we're the ones having genocide committed against us through multiculturalism and propaganda that promotes race mixing. Some individuals are truly hateful, but as a whole, the white race is the LEAST racist of all.
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on July 25, 2008, 11:24:21 AM
A complete focus on genetics is materialism. We are more than bodies. A dead body has DNA but can do neither good or evil.

While genetics do have an effect (obviously) on any people, they are not even close to the entire equation of what makes a man.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 11:29:48 AM
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?

We're genetically different from blacks, and this does influence behavior. Blacks are superior when it comes to many sports, they are superior when it comes to standing in the hot sun and not fainting from heat exhaustion or getting burnt to a crisp. They are perfectly suited for living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Africa. They're not so suited to a modern lifestyle.

One reason that blacks tend to be more sexual at an earlier age than whites is that they develop faster. They reach puberty at an earlier age, in fact, they develop faster in the womb than whites and on average naturally live a shorter lifespan because of a naturally different rate of aging.

Studies have shown them to be more impulsive than whites, which might be all right if you're living on the African plains, but can really hurt you in a structured society where rules have to be adhered to and impulsive behavior can lead to jail time.

Their brains are actually structured differently than those of whites. They have smaller brains overall, and less developed frontal lobes, which contribute to thoughts of "planning for the future" and other such things. This would also contribute to a higher crime rate, because of a lessened ability to foresee the long-term consequences of one's own actions. "I didn't do nuffin", etc.

The skeletal structure is different. Anyone who tells you that race is based on "skin color" doesn't know what they're talking about. Physical anthropologists can tell the difference between skeletons of different races. We all know that there are other physical differences that go beyond skin color and include facial differences, limb length, tendency toward certain diseases, etc.

You can't have all these physical differences without some influence on the person's brain to be different as well.

Whites generally score better than blacks on tasks like reading, writing, language skills, and math. It's not racism that keeps blacks from achieving at the same level as whites in these areas, it's biology.


Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 11:34:39 AM
A complete focus on genetics is materialism. We are more than bodies. A dead body has DNA but can do neither good or evil.

While genetics do have an effect (obviously) on any people, they are not even close to the entire equation of what makes a man.

Genetics don't determine what someone will behave like, but they do have an influence.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shamgar on July 25, 2008, 11:43:53 AM
Did you hear about the fire in the three family walk up in New Jersey?

A black family of six lived on the first floor. They all perished in
the fire.

A Mexican family of eight lived on the second floor. They also
perished.

A white couple lived on the third floor. They survived.

Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.



The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Mishmaat on July 25, 2008, 11:45:30 AM
Ruby is a sweetheart. I love her accent. But I disagree with her to a large extent about race and genetics. Our skin is just a glove.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 25, 2008, 11:50:14 AM
Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.
The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.

 :::D

Ruby is a sweetheart. I love her accent. But I disagree with her to a large extent about race and genetics. Our skin is just a glove.

Thanks.  ;D I don't mind if people disagree with me. It makes for a more interesting message board.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 25, 2008, 03:14:50 PM
I think if America is to take in refugees like the Sudanese, it should be to keep them safe until they can go back home.  They should never move here permanently except for very very, extreme situations.  We should have a system to keep people safe from Muslim milling hordes until the Muzzies can be defeated and then they can go back home. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 25, 2008, 04:33:45 PM
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?

We're genetically different from blacks, and this does influence behavior. Blacks are superior when it comes to many sports, they are superior when it comes to standing in the hot sun and not fainting from heat exhaustion or getting burnt to a crisp. They are perfectly suited for living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Africa. They're not so suited to a modern lifestyle.

One reason that blacks tend to be more sexual at an earlier age than whites is that they develop faster. They reach puberty at an earlier age, in fact, they develop faster in the womb than whites and on average naturally live a shorter lifespan because of a naturally different rate of aging.

Studies have shown them to be more impulsive than whites, which might be all right if you're living on the African plains, but can really hurt you in a structured society where rules have to be adhered to and impulsive behavior can lead to jail time.

Their brains are actually structured differently than those of whites. They have smaller brains overall, and less developed frontal lobes, which contribute to thoughts of "planning for the future" and other such things. This would also contribute to a higher crime rate, because of a lessened ability to foresee the long-term consequences of one's own actions. "I didn't do nuffin", etc.

The skeletal structure is different. Anyone who tells you that race is based on "skin color" doesn't know what they're talking about. Physical anthropologists can tell the difference between skeletons of different races. We all know that there are other physical differences that go beyond skin color and include facial differences, limb length, tendency toward certain diseases, etc.

You can't have all these physical differences without some influence on the person's brain to be different as well.

Whites generally score better than blacks on tasks like reading, writing, language skills, and math. It's not racism that keeps blacks from achieving at the same level as whites in these areas, it's biology.





This is acceptable and probably true in a rough sense.  I will add that while blacks theoretically are built better and will be better at sports by practicing lessthan a white person who is built smaller, the white person still can practice a whole lot more and maybe be just as good...the same goes with anything intellectual.  Blacks theoretically might have a tougher time reading and doing math than whites.  However, with more practice and different modes of teaching, they might be just as good.

And it isn't racist what you are saying, Rubystars.  Even based on what you are saying that genes might influence what one's behavior might be later on, which they probably do, it means that each race or nation requires a different sent of standards in their religions, theology, and view of Gd.  For that reason, I, and I beleive JTF, disagrees in a One world One Nation One Religion existence.  Each culture, race, and nation is unique in character, maybe based slightly on the genetics of their behaviors.  Not one single theology is right for everyone.  It just leads to a Tower of Babel.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 25, 2008, 05:57:11 PM
Did you hear about the fire in the three family walk up in New Jersey?

A black family of six lived on the first floor. They all perished in
the fire.

A Mexican family of eight lived on the second floor. They also
perished.

A white couple lived on the third floor. They survived.

Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.



The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.

:::D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 25, 2008, 06:19:43 PM
I am a racialist, big difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialist

If that is what society considers a racist, then oh well. That is my stance, and my stance only, doesn't mean it represents the JTF's stance as a whole.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 25, 2008, 06:27:26 PM
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?

We're genetically different from blacks, and this does influence behavior. Blacks are superior when it comes to many sports, they are superior when it comes to standing in the hot sun and not fainting from heat exhaustion or getting burnt to a crisp. They are perfectly suited for living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Africa. They're not so suited to a modern lifestyle.

One reason that blacks tend to be more sexual at an earlier age than whites is that they develop faster. They reach puberty at an earlier age, in fact, they develop faster in the womb than whites and on average naturally live a shorter lifespan because of a naturally different rate of aging.

Studies have shown them to be more impulsive than whites, which might be all right if you're living on the African plains, but can really hurt you in a structured society where rules have to be adhered to and impulsive behavior can lead to jail time.

Their brains are actually structured differently than those of whites. They have smaller brains overall, and less developed frontal lobes, which contribute to thoughts of "planning for the future" and other such things. This would also contribute to a higher crime rate, because of a lessened ability to foresee the long-term consequences of one's own actions. "I didn't do nuffin", etc.

The skeletal structure is different. Anyone who tells you that race is based on "skin color" doesn't know what they're talking about. Physical anthropologists can tell the difference between skeletons of different races. We all know that there are other physical differences that go beyond skin color and include facial differences, limb length, tendency toward certain diseases, etc.

You can't have all these physical differences without some influence on the person's brain to be different as well.

Whites generally score better than blacks on tasks like reading, writing, language skills, and math. It's not racism that keeps blacks from achieving at the same level as whites in these areas, it's biology.



So I'm guessing you very well and factual answer is yes. However, I have a different philosophy than you do on this issue RubyStars.

Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of [censored] we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on July 25, 2008, 07:54:23 PM
The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

This is an excellent point but we do have to be honest that certain physical traits do give us tendencies for bias. For example, if blacks are naturally more athletic, then they might tend to have a disposition towards sports. It's not something that you can completely remove from the equation and it does have an effect - perhaps not to the level that those who are racist would like to believe.

My point is that there is almost always a positive and a negative to physical differences in human beings so each trait can be used for good or evil. And extreme example could be someone born with an inclination for killing can become a mass murderer or a soldier defending others' lives. The elitist genetic argument is really a humanistic and egotistical concept. It mistakenly assumes that either there is no Creator or that the Creator makes mistakes. It's people who make mistakes from their own choices.

So you are correct. Most of the reason they have so many problems is because the society and culture that they live in condone, and even glorify, evil behavior. It's still no excuse. Every person has the ability to choose and there are a few who take a stand against the majority.

We should never say that people will behave one way or another based on their skin color because that is ridiculous. We can, however, say that a group of people (who may or may not share the same coloring) are evil based on their actions (i.e. islam goes beyond racial boundaries).
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/68995748_5c3a5b6b02.jpg)

Lovely.

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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 26, 2008, 09:51:36 PM
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/68995748_5c3a5b6b02.jpg)

Lovely.

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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.


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Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 09:54:05 PM
My point is that there is almost always a positive and a negative to physical differences in human beings so each trait can be used for good or evil. And extreme example could be someone born with an inclination for killing can become a mass murderer or a soldier defending others' lives. The elitist genetic argument is really a humanistic and egotistical concept. It mistakenly assumes that either there is no Creator or that the Creator makes mistakes. It's people who make mistakes from their own choices.

God didn't make a mistake, but people sure did when they tried to mix incompatible cultures and peoples together in the same countries.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 26, 2008, 11:44:03 PM
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/68995748_5c3a5b6b02.jpg)

Lovely.

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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 11:48:52 PM
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

You don't have to agree with me for me to respect you and your right to have a different opinion. I don't think they're "inferior" per se, just inferior when it comes to living in a society that's incompatible with their nature.

I was watching CNN a while ago and they were having some negro-loving special on about being black in America. They said 1 in 3 black men will serve a prison sentence. Those are just the ones that get caught!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 26, 2008, 11:51:15 PM
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 26, 2008, 11:51:37 PM
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

You don't have to agree with me for me to respect you and your right to have a different opinion. I don't think they're "inferior" per se, just inferior when it comes to living in a society that's incompatible with their nature.

I was watching CNN a while ago and they were having some negro-loving special on about being black in America. They said 1 in 3 black men will serve a prison sentence. Those are just the ones that get caught!
That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 26, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!

 ;D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: ProJewChristian
That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.

Yes it's quite scary! One of many reasons why I oppose racial mixing.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 11:56:09 PM
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!

 ;D

Quite true, Scriabin.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 26, 2008, 11:56:25 PM
Quote from: ProJewChristian
That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.

Yes it's quite scary! One of many reasons why I oppose racial mixing.
Naturally.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 26, 2008, 11:57:28 PM
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 12:00:13 AM
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.
Yes Scriabin, I said that.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 27, 2008, 12:05:24 AM
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.

I fixed it.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 27, 2008, 12:18:34 AM
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.

I fixed it.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 12:21:05 AM
Well done.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Mishmaat on July 27, 2008, 12:49:20 AM
There is a significant argument to be made concerning nature versus nurture. People are "smart" in different ways. Also, you have to take into consideration prenatal care, cultural idiosyncrasies and economic factors. These disparities in "intelligence" are primarily cultural.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 27, 2008, 03:10:37 AM
I am quite surprised that this thread has gone on for seven pages and 100 replies. Like I said before, I see very little racism here these days. Back when the Nazis Tina Greco and her boyfriend Andrew Newman were allowed to get away with murder around here thanks to a certain mentally retarded chief admin, this often looked like the Klan forum, with constant talk of Aborigines and "mud people". Thankfully, those Amalekites are gone forever. Yimach schmo to those two.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 27, 2008, 03:39:42 AM
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I'm not going to say anything... I'm not going to say anything... I'm not going to say anything... Mmmmhmm!

 :D ;D :::D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
I am quite surprised that this thread has gone on for seven pages and 100 replies. Like I said before, I see very little racism here these days. Back when the Nazis Tina Greco and her boyfriend Andrew Newman were allowed to get away with murder around here thanks to a certain mentally retarded chief admin, this often looked like the Klan forum, with constant talk of Aborigines and "mud people". Thankfully, those Amalekites are gone forever. Yimach schmo to those two.
So lets not stoop to their level.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
I am quite surprised that this thread has gone on for seven pages and 100 replies. Like I said before, I see very little racism here these days. Back when the Nazis Tina Greco and her boyfriend Andrew Newman were allowed to get away with murder around here thanks to a certain mentally retarded chief admin, this often looked like the Klan forum, with constant talk of Aborigines and "mud people". Thankfully, those Amalekites are gone forever. Yimach schmo to those two.
I see touches of it here and there.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 27, 2008, 09:46:03 PM
We are not racists but we discern between right and wrong.

I often ask people who see "racism" in me:

"Why don't you go and buy or rent a house in Newark, NJ, East Orange, NJ, Detroit, MI etc.,"

They would reply "Oh no, we won't, those are bad areas"

My response:  "Why do you call them as bad areas?, Any specific reason?"

Their answer: :-\

I would then prompt: "Are there a lot of white people, Chinese, Asians.......?"

Most of the time silence is their answer.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thus I expose the "hidden" racism in their hearts.

Blacks have their own agenda to take over Churches and other institutions.  They always use slavery which was the "original sin" committed by whites to justify their behavior. 

In many Churches Pastors are afraid of talking about homosexuality and abortion just because they do not want to offend blacks.  Blacks criticize anti-homosexual and anti-abortion messages as "republican" messages.

Most of the blacks come to Christianity with an attitude "what we can get".  Employers hesitate to fire blacks because they are afraid of being called as racists.  Because of the laziness and misbehavior of many blacks productivity decreases in many work places.  Is it not an injustice to remain as victims of black laziness.

We need voices like JTF and Chaim in our Christian community to tell the truth about blacks.

Here I am referring to Zionist Christian Churches.  Unfortunately to implement affirmative action in Churches Pastors invite blacks to open sessions in prayer, sing and to give testimonies.  I have seen with my own eyes blacks who get this opportunity attacking whites for their original sin instead of preaching from the Bible.

Blacks have committed countless crimes against the rest of the Americans, sucked trillions of dollars in welfare, destroyed good neighborhoods and grossly affected productivity in work places.

Non-blacks need justice! 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 27, 2008, 09:57:00 PM
We are not racists but we discern between right and wrong.

I often ask people who see "racism" in me:

"Why don't you go and buy or rent a house in Newark, NJ, East Orange, NJ, Detroit, MI etc.,"

They would reply "Oh no, we won't, those are bad areas"

My response:  "Why do you call them as bad areas?, Any specific reason?"

Their answer: :-\

I would then prompt: "Are there a lot of white people, Chinese, Asians.......?"

Most of the time silence is their answer.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thus I expose the "hidden" racism in their hearts.

Blacks have their own agenda to take over Churches and other institutions.  They always use slavery which was the "original sin" committed by whites to justify their behavior. 

In many Churches Pastors are afraid of talking about homosexuality and abortion just because they do not want to offend blacks.  Blacks criticize anti-homosexual and anti-abortion messages as "republican" messages.

Most of the blacks come to Christianity with an attitude "what we can get".  Employers hesitate to fire blacks because they are afraid of being called as racists.  Because of the laziness and misbehavior of many blacks productivity decreases in many work places.  Is it not an injustice to remain as victims of black laziness.

We need voices like JTF and Chaim in our Christian community to tell the truth about blacks.

Here I am referring to Zionist Christian Churches.  Unfortunately to implement affirmative action in Churches Pastors invite blacks to open sessions in prayer, sing and to give testimonies.  I have seen with my own eyes blacks who get this opportunity attacking whites for their original sin instead of preaching from the Bible.

Blacks have committed countless crimes against the rest of the Americans, sucked trillions of dollars in welfare, destroyed good neighborhoods and grossly affected productivity in work places.

Non-blacks need justice! 


It's not justice...just stop kissing butt where kissing it is not deserved..and if that person pouts and yells and complain, well then you have to be smart on how to respond.  Racism is only when one concludes that one's genes are inferior to the other gene...but criticizing and punishing bad behavior of a known felon is not racism...and that's what we have to pursue...mercilessly hate the person and the behavior he regularly and proudly performs especially when he constantly ignores the reality of his damaging actions...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 27, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 27, 2008, 10:10:28 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.


You should carry a weapon
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 27, 2008, 10:15:24 PM
Well, I, for one am a racist in the sense that it is applied in the dictatorial definition and not the politically corrected disinformative context: "racial bigotry".  Racism prior to its "politcal correcting" simply meant that one heald the belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another."  There was no mention nor application of hate based solely on race until recent years.....  This is specifically an injection or the combination of the deffinition of racial bigotry sold off to the ignorant as "racism".  This, like "Global Warming" is another piece of disinformation from our brethren on the "Left Wing" and their International Socialist cohorts.  Since I am not a Communist, and I believe nothing, including all human beings, is equal this would dictate that I'd be a racist.....   Take them apples.... ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 27, 2008, 10:18:53 PM
Well, I, for one am a racist in the sense that it is applied in the dictatorial definition and not the politically corrected disinformative context: "racial bigotry".  Racism prior to its "politcal correcting" simply meant that one heald the belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another."  There was no mention nor application of hate based solely on race until recent years.....  This is specifically an injection or the combination of the deffinition of racial bigotry sold off to the ignorant as "racism".  This, like "Global Warming" is another piece of disinformation from our brethren on the "Left Wing" and their International Socialist cohorts.  Since I am not a Communist, and I believe nothing, including all human beings, is equal this would dictate that I'd be a racist.....   Take them apples.... ;)

You Racist  :::D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 10:28:32 PM
Well, I, for one am a racist in the sense that it is applied in the dictatorial definition and not the politically corrected disinformative context: "racial bigotry".  Racism prior to its "politcal correcting" simply meant that one heald the belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another."  There was no mention nor application of hate based solely on race until recent years.....  This is specifically an injection or the combination of the deffinition of racial bigotry sold off to the ignorant as "racism".  This, like "Global Warming" is another piece of disinformation from our brethren on the "Left Wing" and their International Socialist cohorts.  Since I am not a Communist, and I believe nothing, including all human beings, is equal this would dictate that I'd be a racist.....   Take them apples.... ;)

You Racist  :::D
:::D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 27, 2008, 10:35:57 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 27, 2008, 10:37:10 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)
My autistic uncle was mugged by [censored] [censored].
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 27, 2008, 10:37:32 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)

Sorry to hear that Bullcat they should carry protection as well
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 27, 2008, 11:06:55 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)

Sorry to hear that Bullcat they should carry protection as well
Thank You.
I'm not sure it would have helped in every case.

My cousin was murdered.
She was shot point blank in her neck.
She died a few days before her daughter was to celebrate her first birthday.
She left behind a motherless child and a devastated family.
The animal who murdered her was free on bail for a year.  Walking the streets.
He was recently convicted of his crime...but did not get nearly enough time.
You are probably right though.  We should be protecting ourselves. 
It is only going to get worse unless we start speaking out against it.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on July 27, 2008, 11:09:09 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)

Sorry to hear that Bullcat they should carry protection as well
Thank You.
I'm not sure it would have helped in every case.

My cousin was murdered.
She was shot point blank in her neck.
She died a few days before her daughter was to celebrate her first birthday.
She left behind a motherless child and a devastated family.
The animal who murdered her was free on bail for a year.  Walking the streets.
He was recently convicted of his crime...but did not get nearly enough time.
You are probably right though.  We should be protecting ourselves. 
It is only going to get worse unless we start speaking out against it.



Sorry she died
If you want i can give you sites where I buy my "supplies" from
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 27, 2008, 11:12:34 PM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)

Sorry to hear that Bullcat they should carry protection as well
Thank You.
I'm not sure it would have helped in every case.

My cousin was murdered.
She was shot point blank in her neck.
She died a few days before her daughter was to celebrate her first birthday.
She left behind a motherless child and a devastated family.
The animal who murdered her was free on bail for a year.  Walking the streets.
He was recently convicted of his crime...but did not get nearly enough time.
You are probably right though.  We should be protecting ourselves. 
It is only going to get worse unless we start speaking out against it.



Sorry she died
If you want i can give you sites where I buy my "supplies" from
Thank You
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on July 27, 2008, 11:44:08 PM
Hey it is nobody's fault that for over 500 years in the United States they refuse to evolve.  How is that Asians come here with a complete different language, culture, reading and still they find a way to open a business to raise decent children and have a tight family structure?  It isn't racism it is reality.


It's a good culture and good environment...not race or genes...

and you aren't saying anything incorrect...

certainly, if an Asian was raised in a bad environment with a bad way of thinking, he'll act like the typical schwartza

I almost completely disagree with you.
I went to school with Puerto Rican barbarians and negro savages from first to 12th grade and university.
I completely reject their evil ways. I've always utterly rejected their inferior races and their inferior criminal cultures.
Since my first encounter, I saw the obvious that were simply dumb. This is one of the few things I disagree with Chaim.

They are genetically inferior. They are genetically dumb. They genetically have low IQ.

However! They are not genetically evil! They follow an evil culture.
Not all the negros in Africa or N America are evil. However, almost all of them are stupid.

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: muman613 on July 27, 2008, 11:47:04 PM
I got my nose broken by the Crips in Venice Beach, CA in the late 80s. This is the prime reason I hate gangsta rap and the entire degenerate culture. But I do know some African Americans who are intelligent and who make an honest living. I cannot believe it is an genetic issue...

muman613
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 27, 2008, 11:54:22 PM
I simply avoid any confrontation or going in any areas that beasts like that might exist...however, i pontificated what it would be like to throw bananas at those "Black Hebros" and make gorilla noises while they ranted and raved on the streets of manhattan..
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 28, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I simply avoid any confrontation or going in any areas that beasts like that might exist...however, i pontificated what it would be like to throw bananas at those "Black Hebros" and make gorilla noises while they ranted and raved on the streets of manhattan..
What if they come to visit you in your own house?
You can't always avoid that evilness.
Even if you try to live a life of avoidance.
Take my word for it.
I, and my family, have lived a life of not putting ourselves into the wrong situation.
It is one of the things I stress to my child at her young age.
It doesn't always work.  :'(
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 06:57:43 AM
I simply avoid any confrontation or going in any areas that beasts like that might exist...however, i pontificated what it would be like to throw bananas at those "Black Hebros" and make gorilla noises while they ranted and raved on the streets of manhattan..
What if they come to visit you in your own house?
You can't always avoid that evilness.
Even if you try to live a life of avoidance.
Take my word for it.
I, and my family, have lived a life of not putting ourselves into the wrong situation.
It is one of the things I stress to my child at her young age.
It doesn't always work.  :'(

Gd forbid it would ever happen, but I would take my loved ones and run for the hills....unless i had a weapon, I would kill them without a warning....
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shamgar on July 28, 2008, 07:34:49 AM
The problem is that the beasts come to you. You are not safe in your home behind a locked door. The majority of recently built homes/apartments have doors that can be easily kicked in.

YOU are responsible for protecting yourself and your family. The purpose of the police is not to protect you. Their job is to clean up the mess afterwards and prosecute any bad guys they can catch.

If you can legally own a firearm, get one, learn how to use it and practice regularly.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 28, 2008, 07:44:28 AM
At lease 2 attempts were made on my life by blacks.  A black Pastor robbed a huge some from me and I am a victim of black crimes.  I was also bullied by a black gang in NY or Newark Penn station (I do not remember exactly) a few years ago.  I need justice.  I could not pursue them just because they are blacks.  We need civil rights leaders in our own communities.  I also see on a daily basis how blacks affect productivity in my office.

I can sympathize with you Christian Zionist.
A few members of my immediate family have been victims of horrific crimes...all committed by black males.
I don't care if it is nature or nurture that causes them to act the way they do.  I'm just sick of it.
P.S.  I don't think my feeling this way makes me a racist.   You know what they say Once Burned Twice Shy.
  ;)

Sorry to hear that Bullcat they should carry protection as well
Thank You.
I'm not sure it would have helped in every case.

My cousin was murdered.
She was shot point blank in her neck.
She died a few days before her daughter was to celebrate her first birthday.
She left behind a motherless child and a devastated family.
The animal who murdered her was free on bail for a year.  Walking the streets.
He was recently convicted of his crime...but did not get nearly enough time.
You are probably right though.  We should be protecting ourselves. 
It is only going to get worse unless we start speaking out against it.


Thank you for your concern Bullcat.  I am so sorry to hear that you cousin died.  Unfortunately the state where I live now strictly prohibit guns.
I will write my bad experiences in separate thread later.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 28, 2008, 07:53:30 AM
Well, I, for one am a racist in the sense that it is applied in the dictatorial definition and not the politically corrected disinformative context: "racial bigotry".  Racism prior to its "politcal correcting" simply meant that one heald the belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another."  There was no mention nor application of hate based solely on race until recent years.....  This is specifically an injection or the combination of the deffinition of racial bigotry sold off to the ignorant as "racism".  This, like "Global Warming" is another piece of disinformation from our brethren on the "Left Wing" and their International Socialist cohorts.  Since I am not a Communist, and I believe nothing, including all human beings, is equal this would dictate that I'd be a racist.....   Take them apples.... ;)

Great words of wisdom as always MarZutra!

Blacks do not usually condemn another black who got caught in the act.  However other communities are not like that.  They do condemn or take action when one of them commit a crime.  Blacks think as a community and always portray themselves as victims.  If the the black community makes wrong choices which could affect other communities there is nothing wrong for others to educate their children about the blacks.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 28, 2008, 10:16:36 AM
Blacks, similar to Muslims/Arabs, are, for the most part, truly racist and racial bigots.  Islamic Holy Books have racism and bigotry through out.  One looks at the "Diaspora" African population, the vast majority are 70 or less IQ'd sheeple that follow a most vile culture and leaders that are out-right Communists and Farrakhan Black Power fools.  On the rare occasion a Rev. Jessee Lee Peterson will come along....  Sadly, it is comparable to a barrel of rotten apples spoiling it for the very few.... 

I hope all have been well in the past few months....   ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 01:08:47 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: t_h_j on July 28, 2008, 01:10:34 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 01:30:19 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: t_h_j on July 28, 2008, 02:12:10 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

he dislikes blacks and hispanics just because they are black or hispanic.  That is racist.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

he dislikes blacks and hispanics just because they are black or hispanic.  That is racist.

I stated "most", not all. That isn't racist. I respect Alan Keyes.

I've had hispanic and black friends but that doesn't mean I want to associate with most of them.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Masha on July 28, 2008, 03:03:07 PM
t_h_j, you sound very sanctimonious.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 03:03:17 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

he dislikes blacks and hispanics just because they are black or hispanic.  That is racist.

I stated "most", not all. That isn't racist. I respect Alan Keyes.

I've had hispanic and black friends but that doesn't mean I want to associate with most of them.



I usually associate my self with Persian Jews...that doesn't make me a racist against White American Jews..does it?  And many blacks associate with themselves and each other and never with whites...

There is a difference in culture and ways of life. I'm not going to hang out with people that have nothing in common wiht me..nor marry anyone is has very little common with my or my family.  That doesn't make one  a racist nor a racialist.

And, for me, of course, if by some stroke a luck, I met a black person or a hispanic or a whatever who had a lot in common with me, I would also become friends with him.  However, I will not personally seek black friends just to have black friends...or whatever..that's just being retarded....big deal black or white...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2008, 03:08:30 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

he dislikes blacks and hispanics just because they are black or hispanic.  That is racist.

I stated "most", not all. That isn't racist. I respect Alan Keyes.

I've had hispanic and black friends but that doesn't mean I want to associate with most of them.



I usually associate my self with Persian Jews...that doesn't make me a racist against White American Jews..does it?  And many blacks associate with themselves and each other and never with whites...

There is a difference in culture and ways of life. I'm not going to hang out with people that have nothing in common wiht me..nor marry anyone is has very little common with my or my family.  That doesn't make one  a racist nor a racialist.

And, for me, of course, if by some stroke a luck, I met a black person or a hispanic or a whatever who had a lot in common with me, I would also become friends with him.  However, I will not personally seek black friends just to have black friends...or whatever..that's just being retarded....big deal black or white...
I agree... whom do you have to prove that your not a racist, anyway?!
   The people that purposely go out of their way and bend over backwards to make the relationships with blacks or any other minorities have issues with themselves and will always think about what others are saying to try to fit that mold... get a Back Bone!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 28, 2008, 04:08:45 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.
Sadly, the ignorant and arrogant leftist would call you "racist".  I agree, whole heartedly with your views, re: above post.  There's a reason why Blacks are Black and White are White....  If G-d wanted everyone and everything He'd have created it that way.  Sadly, if a Black speaks this way re: Black Power, they'll get a job: Affirmative Action, a government grant "Black Business Development" or a Government check while if a White may hold the ideologically and logically similar view, it automatically digresses into a debate about "racism".   ???
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 04:23:11 PM
The "racist" title is overused.

You can't do anything without being called a racist nowadays.

Lets face facts, not this emotional "feel good" crap.

Look, lets give an example, you know those minutemen protests where they protest against illegal immigration? Well, the liberals and Mexicans use it as a "cover" or "safety net" to meet their political goals so they can get more illegal aliens into the country. They say if you are against illegal aliens coming into the country, you must somehow be racist. ADL and several leftist Jewish organizations claim that preventing illegal aliens into the country is equivalent to world war II when countries refused to take Jews in during the holocaust.

I am strictly opposed to illegal aliens coming into this country because they are not coming here for a better life, they are using this country to send money back to their country while colonizing our land and attempting a land steal. It's no different than what these so called Palestinians are doing in Israel or the Albanians in Kosovo. You give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

My dislike for "most" hispanics and blacks, my impressions have been negative. Civil rights taught us to be "tolerant" towards minorities. That's all fine and dandy on a peice of paper, the problem is that this is their shield so that they can be racist towards whites but the majority cannot be critisized for their involvement in crime, rape, robbery.

I am not attracted to the opposite race nor do I find anything in common with most of them.

My family has always taught us to stick with our own kind, I can't imagine having a family member of mixed race. Does that make me a racist? Absolutely not, I don't see myself as superior or inferior to any other race, only that we should keep separate and those are strictly my beliefs.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 28, 2008, 04:38:04 PM
Actually it is only logical.  Even forgetting about "race" issue, on so many other levels be it religious, cultural, social, national etc. it just makes so much sense.  Than again, what we are scraping on is the crust of the Communist/Utopian "Brave New World" agenda........ 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Zelhar on July 28, 2008, 04:45:35 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

I can understand why you one wouldn't want to breed with another of a different race, but why would you try to avoid being around them altogether ?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 04:51:55 PM
mazutra i agree w your sentiments and none of this makes you a racist..if so, then judaism is racist since jews should only marry jews
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

I can understand why you one wouldn't want to breed with another of a different race, but why would you try to avoid being around them altogether ?

By actively being around them, that is a form of promoting multiculturalism/diversity. I am against diversity and prefer to keep to my own community with my own people. Since there are no Jews where I live, white people of European descent are those that I generally associate with.

There are a few exceptions of course, my work place there are people of different race, at least 2 black males who I get along with fine and would never speak ill of them. My boss is a mixture of Italian and Japanese and I have nothing but respect for him.

I do not have a problem with other races, the problem is that the Mexicans are becoming the majority. One cannot deny the fact that the white race has done plenty to advance our life style and we enjoy and reap the benefits. The only comparable race would be Asians, they had a advanced culture/civilization while the blacks continued living in a constant state of destruction and never advanced past anything until the white man colonized the area. Even Northern Africa while still under the influence of Islam has had more success than the rest of Africa. It's a curse continent if you ask me.

Is it wrong for a individual to voluntarily segregate themselves?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 04:57:11 PM
mazutra i agree w your sentiments and none of this makes you a racist..if so, then judaism is racist since jews should only marry jews

Ah but Judaism isn't a race, anyone can convert to Judaism although there could be some racial element involved or perhaps tribal that Cohen are only supposed to marry other Jews (forbidden to marry converts) if I recall? A religious obligation is slightly different. Jews consist of many races and therefore how could it be considered racist? One could say that a Jew of black heritage that talks bad about whites or white Jews could be considered racist and that would make sense.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 05:00:46 PM
I can understand why you one wouldn't want to breed with another of a different race, but why would you try to avoid being around them altogether ?

I think that fraternization should be somewhat limited, but not prohibited. If you get too friendly and close with members of another race and treat them like they're part of your group, then that could lead to miscegenation and trust that could be easily betrayed. While one should be polite and friendly with members of other races, you should always remember who you are and who they are.

Ironically most of the people I've gotten along with really well and been friends with in school and at work have been of Mexican descent.

If I were to have a child who wanted to marry one of them though, let's just say the conversation wouldn't be pretty.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

I can understand why you one wouldn't want to breed with another of a different race, but why would you try to avoid being around them altogether ?

By actively being around them, that is a form of promoting multiculturalism/diversity. I am against diversity and prefer to keep to my own community with my own people. Since there are no Jews where I live, white people of European descent are those that I generally associate with.

There are a few exceptions of course, my work place there are people of different race, at least 2 black males who I get along with fine and would never speak ill of them. My boss is a mixture of Italian and Japanese and I have nothing but respect for him.

I do not have a problem with other races, the problem is that the Mexicans are becoming the majority. One cannot deny the fact that the white race has done plenty to advance our life style and we enjoy and reap the benefits. The only comparable race would be Asians, they had a advanced culture/civilization while the blacks continued living in a constant state of destruction and never advanced past anything until the white man colonized the area. Even Northern Africa while still under the influence of Islam has had more success than the rest of Africa. It's a curse continent if you ask me.

Is it wrong for a individual to voluntarily segregate themselves?


voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 05:03:34 PM
mazutra i agree w your sentiments and none of this makes you a racist..if so, then judaism is racist since jews should only marry jews

Ah but Judaism isn't a race, anyone can convert to Judaism although there could be some racial element involved or perhaps tribal that Cohen are only supposed to marry other Jews (forbidden to marry converts) if I recall? A religious obligation is slightly different. Jews consist of many races and therefore how could it be considered racist? One could say that a Jew of black heritage that talks bad about whites or white Jews could be considered racist and that would make sense.

I think a big component of the reason why Jews are not supposed to marry non-Jews is to preserve Jewish culture and identity. Jewish people may not be a race per se (although there are genetic ties among different Jewish groups and they do share a lot in common in that way). However, they function as a race by forming a distinct nation, a distinct entity. Therefore, I think it is fair to compare the policy of Jewish people not marrying non-Jews to a white person who also wants to preserve his or her heritage and culture not allowing their children to marry outside of the race.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 05:05:33 PM
voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

They're not only hurting themselves by their behavior.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 05:06:13 PM
mazutra i agree w your sentiments and none of this makes you a racist..if so, then judaism is racist since jews should only marry jews

Ah but Judaism isn't a race, anyone can convert to Judaism although there could be some racial element involved or perhaps tribal that Cohen are only supposed to marry other Jews (forbidden to marry converts) if I recall? A religious obligation is slightly different. Jews consist of many races and therefore how could it be considered racist? One could say that a Jew of black heritage that talks bad about whites or white Jews could be considered racist and that would make sense.

I think a big component of the reason why Jews are not supposed to marry non-Jews is to preserve Jewish culture and identity. Jewish people may not be a race per se (although there are genetic ties among different Jewish groups and they do share a lot in common in that way). However, they function as a race by forming a distinct nation, a distinct entity. Therefore, I think it is fair to compare the policy of Jewish people not marrying non-Jews to a white person who also wants to preserve his or her heritage and culture not allowing their children to marry outside of the race.


just to get a little more detailed...similar cultures should stick together, idealistically....same religions should definately be together even without a choice.  Race is irrelevant if the cultures or religion/theology are the same...that's my opinion
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 05:06:45 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.

yes, it does make you a racist.

Only in the sense of having loyalty to one's own kind. I'm a "racist" too, in that I love my own kind and would like to see it continue into the future.

Neither Cohen nor I as far as I can tell, hate people as individuals because they were born into a certain race. Neither would we harm them for being born into a certain race.

I can understand why you one wouldn't want to breed with another of a different race, but why would you try to avoid being around them altogether ?

By actively being around them, that is a form of promoting multiculturalism/diversity. I am against diversity and prefer to keep to my own community with my own people. Since there are no Jews where I live, white people of European descent are those that I generally associate with.

There are a few exceptions of course, my work place there are people of different race, at least 2 black males who I get along with fine and would never speak ill of them. My boss is a mixture of Italian and Japanese and I have nothing but respect for him.

I do not have a problem with other races, the problem is that the Mexicans are becoming the majority. One cannot deny the fact that the white race has done plenty to advance our life style and we enjoy and reap the benefits. The only comparable race would be Asians, they had a advanced culture/civilization while the blacks continued living in a constant state of destruction and never advanced past anything until the white man colonized the area. Even Northern Africa while still under the influence of Islam has had more success than the rest of Africa. It's a curse continent if you ask me.

Is it wrong for a individual to voluntarily segregate themselves?


voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

I'm not promoting force, only voluntary. It's the same logic I use when debating outsourcing, people have an option of purchasing cheap products or expensive products, I choose quality over quantity.

I'm completely tolerant of what people want to do as long as it doesn't affect my wellbeing, why can't people be tolerant of what I want to do as it doesn't affect them? If a white wants to mix with a black, there's nothing that's going to stop them regardless of law, just look what happened during slavery. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it, but i'm not going to stop them, only tell people why I choose to stick with my own kind.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 05:08:08 PM
voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

They're not only hurting themselves by their behavior.


are they?  Some like multi cultural societies..i don't fault different people who can get along.  I fault double standards and people who refuse to get along wtih each other...

Sometimes we should segregrate ourselves from vermin...other times, it's not vermin
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 05:09:41 PM
voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

They're not only hurting themselves by their behavior.


are they?  Some like multi cultural societies..i don't fault different people who can get along.  I fault double standards and people who refuse to get along wtih each other...

Sometimes we should segregrate ourselves from vermin...other times, it's not vermin

They're committing genocide by their actions. Also the children have no race of their own and often cling to the darker parent fiercely. Look at Obama, his identity crisis because of what his sick mother did is harming us all.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 28, 2008, 05:22:38 PM
I think there is nothing wrong with intermarriage as the exception and as long as the two people really are doing it for reasons beyond race which is rarely the case.  People marrying other groups happens but the media actually wants people to think that intermarriage is superior to marrying within your own culture.  I'm not going to worry about race if I married a Hispanic woman if she believes everything that I do.  Should I marry a Muslim or a commie liberal because they are white but forget about a righteous Asian or Black woman?  I'd prefer to marry someone with similar upbringing and culture as mine and that would be my preference but I can't condemn someone for doing so if it is for the right reasons.  The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

I respect anyone's choice not to intermarry other racial groups but I think culture and religion are more important.  

The problem you see all the time is that intermarriage is done with often evil intentions.  People want to go out of thier way to find another group because they hate themselves and don't want kids who look like them.  Self hating white people think they are too vanilla and want a mixed baby like Borax Osama.  Countless self hating white women are with self hating black guys and countless self hating Asian women are with with self hating White guys.  You see those pairings all the time and it's no accident.  The culture pushes these images through music videos, movies, soap operas, etc.  Most of those couples are white men who won't date white women or Asian women who won't date Asian guys, etc.  The kids grow up and its very difficult for them to have no identity and only a very strong, G-D fearing upbringing can get these kid through a childhood.  Most of these kids however, grow up in divorced homes because as soon as these couples look beyond the race that attracted them, they see the true colors of the person and it may not be pretty.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 05:28:27 PM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 28, 2008, 05:43:43 PM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!

Totally agree that that's the goal of multiculturalism and anti colonialism.  They think all their problems will end with no white people left but their problems would just begin.  I'm just saying I think it should be avoided to call blacks inferior or sub human.  
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 28, 2008, 05:56:38 PM
I think there is nothing wrong with intermarriage as the exception and as long as the two people really are doing it for reasons beyond race which is rarely the case.  People marrying other groups happens but the media actually wants people to think that intermarriage is superior to marrying within your own culture.  I'm not going to worry about race if I married a Hispanic woman if she believes everything that I do.  Should I marry a Muslim or a commie liberal because they are white but forget about a righteous Asian or Black woman?  I'd prefer to marry someone with similar upbringing and culture as mine and that would be my preference but I can't condemn someone for doing so if it is for the right reasons.  The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

I respect anyone's choice not to intermarry other racial groups but I think culture and religion are more important.  

The problem you see all the time is that intermarriage is done with often evil intentions.  People want to go out of their way to find another group because they hate themselves and don't want kids who look like them.  Self hating white people think they are too vanilla and want a mixed baby like Borax Osama.  Countless self hating white women are with self hating black guys and countless self hating Asian women are with with self hating White guys.  You see those pairings all the time and it's no accident.  The culture pushes these images through music videos, movies, soap operas, etc.  Most of those couples are white men who won't date white women or Asian women who won't date Asian guys, etc.  The kids grow up and its very difficult for them to have no identity and only a very strong, G-D fearing upbringing can get these kid through a childhood.  Most of these kids however, grow up in divorced homes because as soon as these couples look beyond the race that attracted them, they see the true colors of the person and it may not be pretty.

To get to the bottom of this why interracial marriage is so high, there has to be an answer to it.

I am 22 years old so I have a lot of close experience with people that interracially marry.

Many of the people interracially marrying believe it or not are military, a lot of the guys that are stationed in Korea or Japan, etc. are bringing back women with them that are thai, filipino and other asian races. I think this is because they are stationed there, it's not uncommon, look at the British when they were an imperial empire and mixed with the Indian population and had Indian wives?

Younger couples that you see interacially mixing, I really don't see too many white men with black women, I see a lot of white men with Asians including a friend of mine I went to school with who is half white/thai. He acts white (similar interests to whites) but he refers to himself as Thai as his identity even in his online name. Ok no big deal but it shows how mixed race think it is cool to forget that "white ancestry". You see this with whites claiming Native American background as well. How many really have a significant ammount of native blood? Is it just a trend?

Where the real danger lies, white women mixing with black men. The media has made it a trend to promote blacks are athletes, superior in fighting and physical looks, larger downstairs (excuse the language but this is a well known stereotype amongst white women), rap music being heavily promoted by MTV and other music video outlets which are associated as black culture, thug/gangster culture. I've seen a lot of the ....ahem heavier/bigger/beefier (alright lets just say their fat) women out there. Some of the women who are a bit less secure want a strong man to protect them and they are attracted to these men, they end up having kids and the black guy beats the women and shes left with a mullato baby and stuck on welfare. Some women that are single and already have a kid end up being attracted to the black guys as well.

Todays society sees being "white" as a negative thing, whites are associated with writing history, committing all the major genocides, holding the black man down, the imperialist oppressor who should forever feel guilty for their crimes.

From a more immature perspective, being white is considered lame (how many women do you know of that go to tanning salons?), white music is considered obsolete or poor, whites supposedly can't dance, etc. etc.

So we have a situation where many young white women are dating black guys and having kids before getting married, how many white women are available for young white guys? Then you have the trend promoting homosexuality and homosexual marriage/kids, do you see where it's creating a negative situation for white culture/race as a whole?

The only whites I've noticed that tend to stick together are usually foreign immigrants (Russians/Polish/Jews) but that is starting to change over time.

You're totally right on that.  The people who are mixed never say they're white because it's a disadvantage for jobs, school and you get to have special minority status.  White people actually are starting to become an outcast people with legal restrictions.  Police can stop as many white people as they want because there would never be a consequence and white people are encouraged to be self hating.  I don't know about all those black stereotypes though.  Black is considered cool because of the Bolshevik media but look at the strongest man in the world competeion and UFC.  Blacks definitely dominate a number of sports but Jews dominated basketball when they were less affluent earlier in the 20th century. 

Honestly, if I go outside today, I could count about 20 black guys with white or Asian women and maybe one white guy with a black woman.  You never see an Asian or Indian guy with a black women though.  Intermarriage/dating is so disproportianate and no one will ever talk about this subject.  Asian guys are really pissed too because tons of Asian women are self hating.

I also almost have to laught when I meet a white women who was left with a black kid and says, "I never saw it coming."
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 28, 2008, 06:00:14 PM
I'm not too much older than you also, i'm 30.  I don't see it a lot in friends and people I work with who are 30+ but it's like anyone who was born after 1980, it's a modern day sickness.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
I'm not too much older than you also, i'm 30.  I don't see it a lot in friends and people I work with who are 30+ but it's like anyone who was born after 1980, it's a modern day sickness.

I'm 30 as well. I believe that the propaganda intensified to a crazy degree in recent years.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 28, 2008, 06:12:38 PM
I'm not too much older than you also, i'm 30.  I don't see it a lot in friends and people I work with who are 30+ but it's like anyone who was born after 1980, it's a modern day sickness.

I'm 30 as well. I believe that the propaganda intensified to a crazy degree in recent years.

It correlates with people going to high school during the Clinton years I guess.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 28, 2008, 07:24:39 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with many of the members. I have stated it in the past, I am a separatist, I am a white Jew and I do not believe in interracial mixing (from a voluntary standpoint). I primarily dislike most blacks and hispanics. I do not want to be beer buddies with them, I do not want to learn about their culture, I do not want to sympathize with their cause, and I do not want to marry them or have kids with them. If I have to work with them, then I will be a professional and do my job, other than that, I would like to stay with my own kind.

That does not make me a racist, as a racialist, I realize genetics exist and preservation of ones background is not a bad thing as long as it is voluntary and not force.
O0 Excellent Post!
I think more members agree with you then you know.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 07:59:02 PM
voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

They're not only hurting themselves by their behavior.


are they?  Some like multi cultural societies..i don't fault different people who can get along.  I fault double standards and people who refuse to get along wtih each other...

Sometimes we should segregrate ourselves from vermin...other times, it's not vermin

They're committing genocide by their actions. Also the children have no race of their own and often cling to the darker parent fiercely. Look at Obama, his identity crisis because of what his sick mother did is harming us all.


What genocide?  People are dying when people of different cultures live together and get along wtih each other?

Once again, i don't advocate different religions marrying each other..Nor am i advocating one world...nor am i advocating multi-culturalism diversity...but there are people who prefer to be around those who are different so they, themselves can feel unique. I personally have no issue with that.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 08:00:48 PM
voluntarily you can do whatever you want...some want to mix..others don't want to..why should either be forced?  that's the reality of free of choice.

They're not only hurting themselves by their behavior.


are they?  Some like multi cultural societies..i don't fault different people who can get along.  I fault double standards and people who refuse to get along wtih each other...

Sometimes we should segregrate ourselves from vermin...other times, it's not vermin

Perhaps, but lets put it this way, not everyone wants it shoved down their throat either. I'm sure that many people wouldn't like it if people were forced to stay with only their race via government or other control just like we shouldn't diversity forced on us either.

When I grew up in Chicago (one of the most multicultural cities in the US), it was just that. Diversity was "forced" down our throats, you see it in commercials, you see it in movies and tv, even the school systems when we had to go to a program called "Snowflake" which was meant to teach kids to stay off drugs and their quote being "we're all one race..human", pairing up kids with the opposite race to show tolerance and encouraging multiculturalism/different lifestyles with the latino exchange club, african american history club, black history month, gay/lesbian alliance, etc.

These are all prevalent in our life, many school systems refuse to aknowledge race exists. One history teacher I had claimed that skin color was just a "liquid" that sets the color of the skin based on the environment. When I came back the following day with a picture of a albino negro asking "so are they white?" I was sent to the deans office and suspended. I was merely pointing out that race in context is more than skin color, it is related to cultural influence, genetics, and features (hair texture, nose, shape of forehead, eyes, lips, ears). The problem is that race is a controversial topic in Judaism because people associate identity of race with Nazi Germany in which strict guidelines were used to determine who was Aryan and who was not.

National Socialism was anything but pro white, it was used to divide the white race and exclude people as a means of a socialist/fascist government, really no different than communism but with some racial purity elements.

There is plenty of evidence today to show that Jews are Caucasoid people similar to those of the Mediterranean which is still considered white. I would not consider Arabs white as they bastardized the lands they conquered.

Anyways it's a double standard in todays society, if people are going to mix, then they will do it, but theres no need for government to officially promote or or push it down our youths in the schools. Voluntarily is the key.

Diversity and multi culturalism as well as segregation should not be shoved down anyone's throat.  Both need to be taught..and both the advantages and disadvantages.  i am against double standards where one race is required to kiss the other one's butt while the other doesn't kiss back...if one has to kiss butt, then the other one has to also...and if one refuses to do so, then the other should refuse as well.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 08:02:05 PM
I think there is nothing wrong with intermarriage as the exception and as long as the two people really are doing it for reasons beyond race which is rarely the case.  People marrying other groups happens but the media actually wants people to think that intermarriage is superior to marrying within your own culture.  I'm not going to worry about race if I married a Hispanic woman if she believes everything that I do.  Should I marry a Muslim or a commie liberal because they are white but forget about a righteous Asian or Black woman?  I'd prefer to marry someone with similar upbringing and culture as mine and that would be my preference but I can't condemn someone for doing so if it is for the right reasons.  The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

I respect anyone's choice not to intermarry other racial groups but I think culture and religion are more important.  

The problem you see all the time is that intermarriage is done with often evil intentions.  People want to go out of thier way to find another group because they hate themselves and don't want kids who look like them.  Self hating white people think they are too vanilla and want a mixed baby like Borax Osama.  Countless self hating white women are with self hating black guys and countless self hating Asian women are with with self hating White guys.  You see those pairings all the time and it's no accident.  The culture pushes these images through music videos, movies, soap operas, etc.  Most of those couples are white men who won't date white women or Asian women who won't date Asian guys, etc.  The kids grow up and its very difficult for them to have no identity and only a very strong, G-D fearing upbringing can get these kid through a childhood.  Most of these kids however, grow up in divorced homes because as soon as these couples look beyond the race that attracted them, they see the true colors of the person and it may not be pretty.


there are some like you mention...there are no absolutes here.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 08:08:02 PM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!

Last time i checked, the causecoid race had 100's upon 100's of different cultures...don't worry, the white race won't become extinct...but i'll tell you something...if there is proof that tan is better, stronger, smarter, more enlightened, lives longer, or more resistent to disease...you better believe i would go for tan and avoid white...

You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?!  Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person...This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future?  Kids that will feel pride for simply being white?  Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 08:34:08 PM
You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?! 

There is a common European-derived identity in addition to individual European cultures. European cultures have more in common with one another than they do with non-European cultures, no matter what internal conflicts they may have.

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Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person..

And so is a German, a Spaniard, an Englishman, a Norwegian, a Swiss person, an Irish person, a Greek, an Italian, etc. The white race is very "diverse". They're all white, all European, all far more advanced in culture, language, art, history, mythology, literature, and in every other way which marks a civilization, than ANY African-derived culture. They have more in common with one another than they do with other races.

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This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future? 

Not feeling white pride is what will destroy white culture. White guilt destroys white culture.

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Kids that will feel pride for simply being white? 

God willing.


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Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

I don't want whites to rule the world, but I do want us to have sections of the world where we can live among our own kind without the threat of Muslim terrorism, Negro crime, third world diseases, etc.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 28, 2008, 08:40:35 PM
You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?! 

There is a common European-derived identity in addition to individual European cultures. European cultures have more in common with one another than they do with non-European cultures, no matter what internal conflicts they may have.

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Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person..

And so is a German, a Spaniard, an Englishman, a Norwegian, a Swiss person, an Irish person, a Greek, an Italian, etc. The white race is very "diverse". They're all white, all European, all far more advanced in culture, language, art, history, mythology, literature, and in every other way which marks a civilization, than ANY African-derived culture. They have more in common with one another than they do with other races.

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This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future? 

Not feeling white pride is what will destroy white culture. White guilt destroys white culture.

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Kids that will feel pride for simply being white? 

G-d willing.


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Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

I don't want whites to rule the world, but I do want us to have sections of the world where we can live among our own kind without the threat of Muslim terrorism, Negro crime, third world diseases, etc.

i agree wtih some thigns and disagree wtih other things here.  Europeans do have somethign in common...it seems from your point of view of this, whcih is true, all of those wars way back when were a waste..and that in reality, the European Union is a good thing...except it really isn't.

I feel that whites should not be self hating just as blacks should not be self hating (although with their terrible track record, they are better off being self hating to correct all of their wrongs).  I would fault no white person for wanting to be with someone who wsa white becuase of phsycial attraction and cultural similarity.

THe issues with blacks today is that they have fake pride...whites have an inferiority complex but ought not to. I agree that whites of certain cultures should be proud of the culture wence they came from..and if they were mixed of different white cultures..be proud of the heritage their parents passed down to them. 

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 08:48:27 PM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!

Last time i checked, the causecoid race had 100's upon 100's of different cultures...don't worry, the white race won't become extinct...but i'll tell you something...if there is proof that tan is better, stronger, smarter, more enlightened, lives longer, or more resistent to disease...you better believe i would go for tan and avoid white...

You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?!  Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person...This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future?  Kids that will feel pride for simply being white?  Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

That's because the majority of blacks in America have no heritage, they have no identity, no African surname, no language to speak of, majority are mixed with other tribes or mixed in some form or another, so they go about stealing other peoples identities (claiming their Israelites), convert to Islam to have an identity, or claim how they made America and claim inventions that never were theirs. They steal identity because they have no creativity or culture of their own.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 08:52:03 PM
You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?! 

There is a common European-derived identity in addition to individual European cultures. European cultures have more in common with one another than they do with non-European cultures, no matter what internal conflicts they may have.

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Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person..

And so is a German, a Spaniard, an Englishman, a Norwegian, a Swiss person, an Irish person, a Greek, an Italian, etc. The white race is very "diverse". They're all white, all European, all far more advanced in culture, language, art, history, mythology, literature, and in every other way which marks a civilization, than ANY African-derived culture. They have more in common with one another than they do with other races.

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This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future? 

Not feeling white pride is what will destroy white culture. White guilt destroys white culture.

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Kids that will feel pride for simply being white? 

G-d willing.


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Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

I don't want whites to rule the world, but I do want us to have sections of the world where we can live among our own kind without the threat of Muslim terrorism, Negro crime, third world diseases, etc.

i agree wtih some thigns and disagree wtih other things here.  Europeans do have somethign in common...it seems from your point of view of this, whcih is true, all of those wars way back when were a waste..and that in reality, the European Union is a good thing...except it really isn't.

I feel that whites should not be self hating just as blacks should not be self hating (although with their terrible track record, they are better off being self hating to correct all of their wrongs).  I would fault no white person for wanting to be with someone who wsa white becuase of phsycial attraction and cultural similarity.

THe issues with blacks today is that they have fake pride...whites have an inferiority complex but ought not to. I agree that whites of certain cultures should be proud of the culture wence they came from..and if they were mixed of different white cultures..be proud of the heritage their parents passed down to them. 



Inferiority complex? How so? Majority of the white race regardless of their ancesteral homeland have something to speak of, the Russian Empire, the German Empire, Romans, Greeks, British Empire, French, Spanish, etc. etc., What do Africans have to claim? Kush? Egypt? There's evidence now showing that the Egyptians weren't even black, and evidence of Northern Africa shows the people have more in common with Spaniards/southern Italians and French than with central and south Africa.

What did blacks bring us in medicine, science, and culture? Fried chicken? Face flys? Aids? The doo rag?

I'm not trying to sound harsh, i'm just a realist. Evidence and facts cannot be denied no matter how harsh.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 09:18:44 PM
The "European Union" isn't a good thing because it's part of a tool of a one world government promoting forces. They seek to destroy all people of European descent and other advanced cultures in favor of a one-world, degraded, lowly culture of sheeple which can be easily manipulated.

I do think that the separate nations of Europe should continue to exist, because they all have their own unique character and national identity, and this should be encouraged. However, you can't tell me that a Frenchman moving to Norway will have the same detrimental impact that an African will. There is just nothing that the Norwegians have in common with Africans and the cultures are completely separate and incompatible.

Here in the United States, most whites are a mix of different European bloodlines and have blended these (compatible) cultures into a new white American culture that was thriving prior to the multiracial, multicultural upheaval of the 60s. I have German heritage, English heritage, Irish heritage, and Scottish heritage. My last name is German so I identify with that heritage the most, but I honor all my European heritage and my identity as a white American.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on July 28, 2008, 09:46:54 PM
Now, more than ever, we must avoid racist slurs or calling Blacks by any other name than the correct English neutral word "Black". Anything sounding racist will only favour Obama.
We must do whatever at our reach to support McCain, not only because Obama's agenda is bad, but also because McCain has a very well balanced project that would bring peace to the world. He is not leftist, and he isn't bigotry biased either.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 28, 2008, 09:51:07 PM
Now, more than ever, we must avoid racist slurs or calling Blacks by any other name than the correct English neutral word "Black". Anything sounding racist will only favour Obama.
We must do whatever at our reach to support McCain, not only because Obama's agenda is bad, but also because McCain has a very well balanced project that would bring peace to the world. He is not leftist, and he isn't bigotry biased either.

McCain is better than Obama, but let's not get too carried away.  ;)

I'm going to try to make a pro-McCain video when I get a chance, but that doesn't mean I have to like him.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on July 28, 2008, 10:04:01 PM
Well, I share nearly all of McCain's proposals. (except that I oppose capital punishment)
He opposes abortion, he opposes human cloning and experiments with human embryos, he also opposes religious bigotry and defends all religions. He is pro-Israel. Of course he'd only be ideal if he, B"H, takes the American Embassy to Jerusalem.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 28, 2008, 10:04:39 PM
Now, more than ever, we must avoid racist slurs or calling Blacks by any other name than the correct English neutral word "Black". Anything sounding racist will only favour Obama.
We must do whatever at our reach to support McCain, not only because Obama's agenda is bad, but also because McCain has a very well balanced project that would bring peace to the world. He is not leftist, and he isn't bigotry biased either.

So you promote political correctness? Are you an opponent of free speech too?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on July 28, 2008, 10:19:41 PM
Now, more than ever, we must avoid racist slurs or calling Blacks by any other name than the correct English neutral word "Black". Anything sounding racist will only favour Obama.
We must do whatever at our reach to support McCain, not only because Obama's agenda is bad, but also because McCain has a very well balanced project that would bring peace to the world. He is not leftist, and he isn't bigotry biased either.

So you promote political correctness? Are you an opponent of free speech too?

I don't oppose free speech but, those who want to add some little contribution to the Republican Campaign must avoid words that don't help. McCain is the leader of his campaign, not us. And he is a moderate. If we want to help him, we must not use words he woudn't use, or express opinions he does not hold. And, in this Election, even one vote counts. Not good someone googling for McCain finds slurs in this site, what about Blacks who may vote for him??? And if you think this forum has no influence in American public oipnion, then why keeping it in the first palce???
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 28, 2008, 10:38:14 PM
You know, for a Nazi/White Suprem site, there seems to be base truth in the cultural and total difference between blacks and whites.... 

Do a google search for "Ruins of Detroit".  Take a gander at the numerous pictures of the once white neighborhoods.  You will see very nice archetecture that has all gone to [censored].....  You can guess why... ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 28, 2008, 11:54:46 PM
Here is a good article about "racism": http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1156386.html
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 29, 2008, 12:04:58 AM
I think Raul is right about turning away certain people.  I'm totally on board that black America is a mess and that white people are held in contempt in American society and that promoting people losing their cultural identity is horrible. Still, calling people names and degrading the entire race based on race is bad.  I don't think the pro Obama blacks deserve one ounce of respect  and I have no problem in calling them any name under the sun.  Still, if I think of it through a black person's eyes who agrees with us, they would be out of here so quickly it's not even funny.  No one is here to please people with uncomfortable truths but how can one be ok with a Muslim white person who's a European but not ok with an Ethiopian Christian or Jew who is more anti Islam than most whites on the planet?

I have to go with the spirit and soul of a person and not be like the Nation of Islam or La Raza scum who look down upon an entire group with no exceptions based on their DNA. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: SavetheWest on July 29, 2008, 12:12:38 AM
Here is a good article about "racism": http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1156386.html

No question those gangs have to be stopped immediately. What should be done is fire live bullets into the crowd of brawling gangs and make that a common police practice.  Crime would go down by 90%.  We don't take gangs seriously and guaranteed Borax Osama will be softer on them federally. They will be on rampages across the country and all your local neighborhood liberals will go, "why is society so violent?" It's like these liberal morons in Seattle and Portland who say that not enough is being done to make the bus system safer. 

I saw a Chinese guy write in to the papaer that if they actually arrested psychotic bums once in a while, maybe this would happen.  The liberals made their own bed. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: JTFFan on July 29, 2008, 03:37:52 AM
I had no idea this thread would go on for this long, but anyways....

Liberal Media SSocialist Nazis will call you "racist" because you don't want to accept the unrighteous drek vile "black" culture and blend in with them and hate whitey. Even if you make a great point about them because of their culture. I can't tell you how many times blacks have tried to revise and rewrite American history and claim Whites and Jews are too blame for everything. Some black power malcolm x types claim that our Founding Fathers were black "mmmm... hmmmm..." The media tries so hard to lift them up and give credit to them. I've stated various times they were too lazy to create a civilization and great culture, I don't believe they're inferior just lazy and evil. I had a black friend in kindergarten but don't know what happened to him, probably is living in the ghetto and a gangster by now, but who knows.  My other brother had a black friend growing up, this was when I was very little and one day I pushed him in the deep end of the pool, and didn't realize he couldn't swim so my mom had to go in and save him. I had no idea of this at the time, as I was very young.

My mom was robbed by a black when we were walking down the street next to our market. This Black Ape was on a pay phone and ripped off my mom's purse, she was running after him cursing racial slurs at him like no tomorrow, but he just drove off. I guess he wanted to steal her credit card. I can't tell you how many times these "unrighteous blacks" have committed these types of crimes. They steal identities because they never had an identity to begin with, because they were taken from various African villages and shipped here to the U.S. (not that they even had an identity in Africa to begin with.) I only admire the righteous ones like Alan Keyes, if they have a pretty conservative message (better yet Kahanist) message than they are wonderful.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 04:17:38 AM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!

Last time i checked, the causecoid race had 100's upon 100's of different cultures...don't worry, the white race won't become extinct...but i'll tell you something...if there is proof that tan is better, stronger, smarter, more enlightened, lives longer, or more resistent to disease...you better believe i would go for tan and avoid white...

You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?!  Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person...This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future?  Kids that will feel pride for simply being white?  Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

That's because the majority of blacks in America have no heritage, they have no identity, no African surname, no language to speak of, majority are mixed with other tribes or mixed in some form or another, so they go about stealing other peoples identities (claiming their Israelites), convert to Islam to have an identity, or claim how they made America and claim inventions that never were theirs. They steal identity because they have no creativity or culture of their own.


just like the "palestinians"
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: JTFFan on July 29, 2008, 04:21:23 AM
The problem too is that groups become extinct if they practice too much intermarriage.  Louisina Indians became "Creoles" when they intermarried with blacks and now all they have to show for their culture is Condoleeza Rice.  

Don't you understand that's why I can't stand to see a white with a black? I don't want my people to die. I don't want our heritage to be destroyed!

Last time i checked, the causecoid race had 100's upon 100's of different cultures...don't worry, the white race won't become extinct...but i'll tell you something...if there is proof that tan is better, stronger, smarter, more enlightened, lives longer, or more resistent to disease...you better believe i would go for tan and avoid white...

You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?!  Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person...This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future?  Kids that will feel pride for simply being white?  Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

That's because the majority of blacks in America have no heritage, they have no identity, no African surname, no language to speak of, majority are mixed with other tribes or mixed in some form or another, so they go about stealing other peoples identities (claiming their Israelites), convert to Islam to have an identity, or claim how they made America and claim inventions that never were theirs. They steal identity because they have no creativity or culture of their own.


just like the "palestinians"

Exactly, Fakistinians are rotten illegal Egyptian muSSlim Nazis that bombarbed Israel in hoardes.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 04:21:31 AM
You are silly to say that whites have a heritage...what the heck is that supposed to mean?! 

There is a common European-derived identity in addition to individual European cultures. European cultures have more in common with one another than they do with non-European cultures, no matter what internal conflicts they may have.

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Caucasions are a bundle of different heritages...A polish white person is different from a french white person..

And so is a German, a Spaniard, an Englishman, a Norwegian, a Swiss person, an Irish person, a Greek, an Italian, etc. The white race is very "diverse". They're all white, all European, all far more advanced in culture, language, art, history, mythology, literature, and in every other way which marks a civilization, than ANY African-derived culture. They have more in common with one another than they do with other races.

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This type of mentality is what blacks have...they created a culture because of their color...that will end up destroying them all together....whites never developed a culture base on their race...they developed a culture because they developed a culture.  White culture!...blasphemy!!!  What is that? You want to be like a black and take pride in your whiteness?!  Do you realize that will end up destroying you progeny in the future? 

Not feeling white pride is what will destroy white culture. White guilt destroys white culture.

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Kids that will feel pride for simply being white? 

G-d willing.


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Let blacks have that type of shallow behavior...Take pride in being Christian if you are christian..or polish if you are polish or french if you are french or whatever...white culture...Puleezze...there is no such thing... Blacks only have one main culture...Whites have millions of different cultures each of which is better than any black culture there is on the face of the earth. you don't need to create a one world mentality for just whites...so shallow and dumb.

I don't want whites to rule the world, but I do want us to have sections of the world where we can live among our own kind without the threat of Muslim terrorism, Negro crime, third world diseases, etc.

i agree wtih some thigns and disagree wtih other things here.  Europeans do have somethign in common...it seems from your point of view of this, whcih is true, all of those wars way back when were a waste..and that in reality, the European Union is a good thing...except it really isn't.

I feel that whites should not be self hating just as blacks should not be self hating (although with their terrible track record, they are better off being self hating to correct all of their wrongs).  I would fault no white person for wanting to be with someone who wsa white becuase of phsycial attraction and cultural similarity.

THe issues with blacks today is that they have fake pride...whites have an inferiority complex but ought not to. I agree that whites of certain cultures should be proud of the culture wence they came from..and if they were mixed of different white cultures..be proud of the heritage their parents passed down to them. 



Inferiority complex? How so? Majority of the white race regardless of their ancesteral homeland have something to speak of, the Russian Empire, the German Empire, Romans, Greeks, British Empire, French, Spanish, etc. etc., What do Africans have to claim? Kush? Egypt? There's evidence now showing that the Egyptians weren't even black, and evidence of Northern Africa shows the people have more in common with Spaniards/southern Italians and French than with central and south Africa.

What did blacks bring us in medicine, science, and culture? Fried chicken? Face flys? Aids? The doo rag?

I'm not trying to sound harsh, i'm just a realist. Evidence and facts cannot be denied no matter how harsh.

I'm not disagreeing with you...but what's white culture supposed to be?  Whites don't walk around, unless they are KKK, proud to be white with white accomploshments...whites walk around wtih american, british, russian, german accomplishments...Blacks have nothing to show for and use their color as a means to be proud....that's cheap..that' dumb that's stupid...For whites to start doing the opposite to have "white pride" is just as dumb as the majoirty of blacks walking around wtih "black pride"...Pride of what?! That you look a certain way?  because that's what it will become...race is race..it's skin deep...it's nothing...it would be a mistake for whites to start exclaiming white pride...white pride, yellow pride, green pride, rainbow pride, black pride are for chumps!  But Jewish pride, Christian Pride, Polish Pride, French Pride, Norweigen pride, japanese pride is a whole other story...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 04:28:49 AM
The "European Union" isn't a good thing because it's part of a tool of a one world government promoting forces. They seek to destroy all people of European descent and other advanced cultures in favor of a one-world, degraded, lowly culture of sheeple which can be easily manipulated.

I do think that the separate nations of Europe should continue to exist, because they all have their own unique character and national identity, and this should be encouraged. However, you can't tell me that a Frenchman moving to Norway will have the same detrimental impact that an African will. There is just nothing that the Norwegians have in common with Africans and the cultures are completely separate and incompatible.

Here in the United States, most whites are a mix of different European bloodlines and have blended these (compatible) cultures into a new white American culture that was thriving prior to the multiracial, multicultural upheaval of the 60s. I have German heritage, English heritage, Irish heritage, and Scottish heritage. My last name is German so I identify with that heritage the most, but I honor all my European heritage and my identity as a white American.


But tell me if a mass emigration of 100,000 Frenchman to Norway will sound so sane to Norweigens?  Jingoism is a bad thing...xenophobism is a terrible sin in Judaism.

Now 100,000 frenchmen in norway is much better than 100,000 africans or muslims in norway..that I agree with...but it's not race, my friend...it's the culture they bring with them..I certain wouldn't mind it, if i were a norweigen if 100,000 educated japanese made their way there...it would make norway a better place..but of course..since they are yellow and mongoloid, they would destroy the beautiful white race...

It's unhealthy to think like that..it's not a matter of being politically correct...It's how you word it.  I don't want blacks moving into my neighborhood and it's not because they are black skinned..because they are, for the most part, terrible people and terrible for my community with some exceptions.  But decent japanese, chinese, indian (tan colored and brown or black), or irish (super white), or scottish..whatever...i dont' care if they move to my community..but it's not the color of their skin or their race....it's because people of those areas are generally decent.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 29, 2008, 07:41:26 AM
My child is taught the virtues of black and Hispanic people everyday she attends school or turns on the television.  Sometimes the message is blatant, but most times it is subliminal.
Can you deny that?  Just put on a children's television show.  Try PBS for a day.
Then get back to me.
Why shouldn't I teach her to be proud of who and what she is?
To stress how important our values and traditions are?

Dr. Dan you said -
I don't want blacks moving into my neighborhood and it's not because they are black skinned..because they are, for the most part, terrible people and terrible for my community with some exceptions.


I think that is what most of us our saying.  We are not accusing the color of their skin for being bad.
In general they are cut from a different (moral) cloth.

As an aside...
Have no doubt.
You don't have to live amongst them to be a victim of their crimes.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 08:05:09 AM
My child is taught the virtues of black and Hispanic people everyday she attends school or turns on the television.  Sometimes the message is blatant, but most times it is subliminal.
Can you deny that?  Just put on a children's television show.  Try PBS for a day.
Then get back to me.
Why shouldn't I teach her to be proud of who and what she is?
To stress how important our values and traditions are?

Dr. Dan you said -
I don't want blacks moving into my neighborhood and it's not because they are black skinned..because they are, for the most part, terrible people and terrible for my community with some exceptions.


I think that is what most of us our saying.  We are not accusing the color of their skin for being bad.
In general they are cut from a different (moral) cloth.

As an aside...
Have no doubt.
You don't have to live amongst them to be a victim of their crimes.



my issue is when some here use the terms "White Pride"...to me that's as bad as "black pride".  I think some of them are missing the point...It's not white or black...it's being human...most whites happen to be human...the minority of blacks act human...but it has nothing to do with skin color...it all has to do with how one acts...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: RepublicanStones on July 29, 2008, 08:06:40 AM
'most whites happen to be human...the minority of blacks act human.'

Bit racist are we?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 08:08:22 AM
'most whites happen to be human...the minority of blacks act human.'

Bit racist are we?


read it again....The minority of blacks ACT human....it's a fact, the minority rarely act like normal people...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 29, 2008, 08:09:21 AM
'most whites happen to be human...the minority of blacks act human.'

Bit racist are we?
No
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: RepublicanStones on July 29, 2008, 08:10:09 AM
So you are racist. that's all i need to know. nazi's were racist too werent they?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 08:14:56 AM
So you are racist. that's all i need to know. nazi's were racist too werent they?

name calling huh? nice....

Do you even know what a racist is anymore?  I would love for you to move to Newark NJ amongst all the blacks in their neighborhood in a non-fenced in area...compare that to, let' say, Alpine, NJ....you'll see what I mean...

Or move to Detroit or Harlem...compared to Beverly Hills...maybe then you'll know what I mean by acting human versus being human..

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 29, 2008, 08:17:29 AM
So you are racist. that's all i need to know. nazi's were racist too werent they?
Please be informed not misinformed or disinformed.  Do you believe that everyone and everything is/are equal or do you believe that some are better than others but do not hate based on race

The comparison is not a worthy one, quite truthfully.  The Nazis were both racists, by the true dictionarial deffiniation, they were racial bigots and were working within racial guidelines intruced by the occult via the Thule Society and Blavatsky's Theosophy.

That said.  If you answered that you believe that nothing is equal without any hatred based on race: racial bigotry, than you'd be a true "racist" formerly known as "racialist".  Again, Racism, prior to the Leftist political agenda took hold of it and contorted it into something it is not simply meant: "The belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another's."  No hate whatsoever included.

Further fact to think about.  You ask any Nigerian, Japanese, Chinese or Arab this same question, they will openly give you a "racist" (not bigoted) answer as the aforementioned believe they are superior to all others...for the most part. 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 29, 2008, 08:18:52 AM
So you are racist. that's all i need to know. nazi's were racist too werent they?
Since you have all you need to know...
The logoff button is there for you to use.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: RepublicanStones on July 29, 2008, 08:20:22 AM
All human life is equal, regardless of race or creed. anything else is racist.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2008, 08:22:32 AM
All human life is equal, regardless of race or creed. anything else is racist.

and when one group of a certain race has a majority that that accepts the racist Jessie jackson..and march wtih Louis Farrakahn...all human life is no longer equal...it means there is a double standard....they can say crap about whites and get away with it and call everybody else a racist who remotely criticize any of their BEHAVIOR...that doesnt' make us a racist..it just makes you a Political Correct Whore...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 29, 2008, 08:32:40 AM
All human life is equal, regardless of race or creed. anything else is racist.

and when one group of a certain race has a majority that that accepts the racist Jessie jackson..and march wtih Louis Farrakahn...all human life is no longer equal...it means there is a double standard....they can say crap about whites and get away with it and call everybody else a racist who remotely criticize any of their BEHAVIOR...that doesnt' make us a racist..it just makes you a Political Correct Whore...
...but if you live by the double standard why look a gift horse in the mouth?
It's not politically correct it is expediant.  Scream racism...make all your problems go way.  ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: P J C on July 29, 2008, 12:05:26 PM
Don't forget that some of you are sounding like StørmFrønt
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on July 29, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
All human life is equal, regardless of race or creed. anything else is racist.
Actually no.  Perhaps you might look up the deffinition of "Racism", more specifically: "Racialism" in a dictionary before you intend to move further with this disagreement. 

Mark Twain stated so truthfully: "Those who do not read the newspapers are uninformed and those who do are misinformed."  This is directly applicable to todays molested academia and further mainstream news mediums... 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 29, 2008, 04:33:27 PM
Don't forget that some of you are sounding like StørmFrønt
I don't see it ProJewChristian.
I don't think we have many extremist on JTF.
I don't go to StørmFrønt.
I, for one, will not apologize for how I see life.
I try never to do harm to anyone...but I'm not going to give the benefit of the doubt to a group of people that have caused so much harm to my family.

There was one person, on JTF, who always insinuated people sounded like StormFronters.  That member was eventually banned from the forum and she seemed to be a card carrying member herself.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 29, 2008, 11:29:04 PM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: mazz on July 29, 2008, 11:31:57 PM
This is very true, Rubystars.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: HEBREWHONOR on July 30, 2008, 12:19:03 AM
i think that the question here is about culture , Most american blacks you know , indeed adopted an infirior culture , same as alot of whites who even try to copy them(which are much much more then you can imagen)

i dont think that all "blacks" need to be blamed for actions of black antisemites ,by  using the terms "blacks" when we speak of this scums Because if it jestify this ... Then all "whites" should also be to blame for hitler? who had and his ideas still have "millions" of white supporters ?

I do think that using the term "blacks" to describe scums who are black , not only is wrong (with all do respact , which i have to jtf) , but might even make black people who might support what kahanist's say - flee .

and with that being said :


We should not feel any sort of remorse or inconvinence Telling the nazi blacks what we think of them , just because they are "black"  ...
and its true that most blacks in the world follow idiots as leaders ...
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 12:22:23 AM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 12:24:17 AM
i think that the question here is about culture , Most american blacks you know , indeed adopted an infirior culture , same as alot of whites who even try to copy them(which are much much more then you can imagen)

i dont think that all "blacks" need to be blamed for actions of black antisemites ,by  using the terms "blacks" when we speak of this scums Because if it jestify this ... Then all "whites" should also be to blame for hitler? who had and his ideas still have "millions" of white supporters ?

I do think that using the term "blacks" to describe scums who are black , not only is wrong (with all do respact , which i have to jtf) , but might even make black people who might support what kahanist's say - flee .

and with that being said :


We should not feel any sort of remorse or inconvinence Telling the nazi blacks what we think of them , just because they are "black"  ...
and its true that most blacks in the world follow idiots as leaders ...

I understand your desire to be politically correct by separating decent blacks from nazi blacks...i have been trying for a year and half to get something like that done...but to no avail..
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 30, 2008, 01:07:27 AM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.

We don't choose our race, but neither do we choose our country of birth, and many people feel patriotic and proud of their countries. I'm proud of my racial heritage and also proud of my country, although that doesn't mean I think all other races and all other countries are bad. It's all about group membership and having loyalty and love for one's own. This should never mean hating someone else as an individual simply because they belong to a different group, however.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 07:37:37 AM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.

We don't choose our race, but neither do we choose our country of birth, and many people feel patriotic and proud of their countries. I'm proud of my racial heritage and also proud of my country, although that doesn't mean I think all other races and all other countries are bad. It's all about group membership and having loyalty and love for one's own. This should never mean hating someone else as an individual simply because they belong to a different group, however.


but white and black are very broad memberships that even encourage a one world mentality for that particular race.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: nessuno on July 30, 2008, 07:46:16 AM
There are evil people in all race, sex and age groups.  ::)
I don't care about labels.  How you label me or how you label evil people.
These labels are not helping the problems of society.
Good people from all groups don't want anything to do with evil people.
It is as simple as that.

There is a double standard here.

i dont think that all "blacks" need to be blamed for actions of black antisemites ,by  using the terms "blacks" when we speak of this scums Because if it jestify this ... Then all "whites" should also be to blame for hitler? who had and his ideas still have "millions" of white supporters ?

I do think that using the term "blacks" to describe scums who are black , not only is wrong (with all do respact , which i have to jtf) , but might even make black people who might support what kahanist's say - flee .

and with that being said :


We should not feel any sort of remorse or inconvinence Telling the nazi blacks what we think of them , just because they are "black"  ...
and its true that most blacks in the world follow idiots as leaders ...
We have to stop with all the semantics.
Good people, of any race, age or sex, should be outraged by bad behavior amongst their own group.
I do not relate to a group of white nazi extremist.  They should be criticized.  I would not be offended.  The same should go for black people who don't associate themselves with evil blacks.

Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 30, 2008, 08:12:12 AM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.

We don't choose our race, but neither do we choose our country of birth, and many people feel patriotic and proud of their countries. I'm proud of my racial heritage and also proud of my country, although that doesn't mean I think all other races and all other countries are bad. It's all about group membership and having loyalty and love for one's own. This should never mean hating someone else as an individual simply because they belong to a different group, however.


but white and black are very broad memberships that even encourage a one world mentality for that particular race.

As a racial separatist, I'm exactly what the one worlders DON'T want. I want separate peoples to remain distinct and not to mix or forget their separate identities.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on July 30, 2008, 12:42:12 PM
As a racial separatist, I'm exactly what the one worlders DON'T want. I want separate peoples to remain distinct and not to mix or forget their separate identities.

Of course.

The schwartzes are always screaming about the importance of 'diversity'.

The fact of the matter is that race mixing can only put an end to this so-called 'diversity'.

 
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 01:17:07 PM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.

We don't choose our race, but neither do we choose our country of birth, and many people feel patriotic and proud of their countries. I'm proud of my racial heritage and also proud of my country, although that doesn't mean I think all other races and all other countries are bad. It's all about group membership and having loyalty and love for one's own. This should never mean hating someone else as an individual simply because they belong to a different group, however.


but white and black are very broad memberships that even encourage a one world mentality for that particular race.

As a racial separatist, I'm exactly what the one worlders DON'T want. I want separate peoples to remain distinct and not to mix or forget their separate identities.


but white race is composed of 100's of nationalities...the same is true with the black race except we don't konw that much...and mongoloid race...  But bunching up all whites, you are creating a one world for whites....and the same when blacks do it..
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 01:22:09 PM
One more thing I wanted to add. There's nothing wrong with a black person being proud to be black. There is a certain distinction in being one of the oldest races of mankind, being tied to the soil of the beautiful natural landscapes of sub-Saharan Africa in much the same way that Europeans remain tied to the soil of Europe. There have been many talented musicians (not rap) that have come out of the black community, such as Jimi Hendrix. Black people can look back on soldiers from both the Confederate and Union sides of the War between the states, where people of their blood fought on both sides honorably.

I don't have a problem with black pride in its own right, except when they try to stifle my white pride or try to use it to harm Jews and others.

I can appreciate that you dont' have a double standard..I disagree with you and think there is something wrong with having pride in one's color or race...but I would defend your right to have this opinion as long as you don't any double standards.

We don't choose our race, but neither do we choose our country of birth, and many people feel patriotic and proud of their countries. I'm proud of my racial heritage and also proud of my country, although that doesn't mean I think all other races and all other countries are bad. It's all about group membership and having loyalty and love for one's own. This should never mean hating someone else as an individual simply because they belong to a different group, however.


I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 30, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 30, 2008, 02:14:21 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.

That's true Ruby with a few rare exceptions, but for the most part the adopted child will adopt the culture of their race and stick with their own kind.

I remember in elementary school, the kids just wanted to be kids and just sat wherever regardless of race.

Come middle school and highschool, voluntary segregation became common, blacks stuck with blacks, yellows with yellows, latinos wth latinos, and the white kids generally mixed in with whatever (jocks, geeks, nerds, goths, skaters, emos, punks).

It was like the prison system, people naturally adapt to stay with their own race and their own kind. Yes whites have various different cultures that divide them, you can still be proud of your culture and your race. For example, I am proud to have Jewish heritage and German heritage (minus the evil stuff) as well as proud to be white knowing what our race has done for this planet and the technological advances making life much easier.

While there are a few exceptions with adoptions, I knew a Korean kid who was adopted by a Jewish family, went to synagogue and he was a skater. He was a friend of mine at first but he still associated with other Koreans and stuck with them. His girlfriend was Korean too. He ended up stabbing me in the back and hated each other.

I've known of black kids adopted by whites who acted white but still stuck with their own kind and would speak the "ghetto" talk despite the fact they weren't "taught that".

I'm not implying segregation should be forced by government, but that people are already segregating themselves, the problem is the double standards that if a white man does it, he is evil and should feel guilty.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.

Sometimes couples can't have babies or even prefer to just simply adopt. 
There will never be such a thing as a perfect world with perfect borders either. 
Some will go to a war torn area and rescue a baby of a different race. It's called compassion.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: White Israelite on July 30, 2008, 04:50:14 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.

Sometimes couples can't have babies or even prefer to just simply adopt. 
There will never be such a thing as a perfect world with perfect borders either. 
Some will go to a war torn area and rescue a baby of a different race. It's called compassion.


To me, it's equivalent to sending foreign aid to a foreign country when people in our own country are suffering.

Why adopt a baby in another country when there are countless white babies here who are in orphanages who don't have parents? To me, it sounds like the "acceptable thing" for white parents to adopt black babies like Angelina Jolie
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 30, 2008, 05:11:31 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.

Sometimes couples can't have babies or even prefer to just simply adopt. 
There will never be such a thing as a perfect world with perfect borders either. 
Some will go to a war torn area and rescue a baby of a different race. It's called compassion.


To me, it's equivalent to sending foreign aid to a foreign country when people in our own country are suffering.

Why adopt a baby in another country when there are countless white babies here who are in orphanages who don't have parents? To me, it sounds like the "acceptable thing" for white parents to adopt black babies like Angelina Jolie


parents have the right to adopt any type of child they want...I don't think it is wrong either way. I know what I would choose if I had to adopt..hopefully I never have to adopt.

If I had to choose and it was possible to do so, I would choose a child who looks most similar to me and my wife..
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on July 30, 2008, 11:33:37 PM
I hear what you are saying..but what if in a perfect world a parent adopts an orphan of a different race?  You feel that's wrong?

Your question doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be a perfect world at all. Why dont they have their own baby? If unable to have their own baby, why would they choose a baby of another race rather than one that looks like them and would share in their racial identity? There's been too many stories of white couples adopting black kids, raising them in white culture, and the kids growing up to identify strongly with black culture and falling into criminal tendencies regardless. A white person adopting a black child is a recipe for heartbreak. If they do it, it should only be a temporary situation until a stable black family is found.

Sometimes couples can't have babies or even prefer to just simply adopt. 
There will never be such a thing as a perfect world with perfect borders either. 
Some will go to a war torn area and rescue a baby of a different race. It's called compassion.


Cohen is correct that these people will never consider themselves part of their adoptive parent's culture. They will always be the alien, the other. No matter how loving and how good of "parents" the adoptive parent is to this person of another race, they will never really be a family in the same sense that a family of the same race would.

Not one penny should go to help starving African children until every hungry American child has been fed. We send billions to Africa when there are poor people here who need help, many of them single mothers struggling paycheck to paycheck, or homeless veterans.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: EagleEye on August 05, 2008, 02:12:42 AM
I've come to the conclusion, after a lot of thinking, that open appeals to racialism just don't come off as very professional.  I do believe in ethnic variation, but there are intelligent and professional ways to express this belief, and then there are very crude ways to express it.  Statements that say blacks are incapable of accomplishing anything merely because of genetics are rather crude.  Even if blacks are less intelligent on average than whites, it still doesn't mean they can never accomplish anything.  The issue really is not intelligence, though, its character.  And character is something that can be worked on.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on August 05, 2008, 02:18:16 AM
If a white Jewish couple adopts a black Jewish baby, there is NOTHING wrong with that in any way, shape, or form.

We are not concern with a person's color or genetics. We are concerned with a person's actions.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 05, 2008, 02:31:25 AM
If a white Jewish couple adopts a black Jewish baby, there is NOTHING wrong with that in any way, shape, or form.

We are not concern with a person's color or genetics. We are concerned with a person's actions.
Amen to that!

However, what if a Jewish couple decide to adopt a black Gentile baby and raise it as a righteous Gentile? Is that halachically permissible? Can Jews adopt Gentile children (of any race)?
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: EagleEye on August 05, 2008, 02:31:50 AM
As for racial separatism, mentioned earlier in this thread, an argument of wanting to conserve ethnic uniqueness can be made without an argument of supremacy.  This would probably require splitting America into different nations, as there is no American race.  America is basically a nation of dissidents who left behind their ancient ethnic homelands.  If you are interested in keeping ethnic groups from being absorbed into a greater new world order, it would be logical to fight that fight outside of America.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on August 05, 2008, 07:58:38 AM
Just interjecting to remind you all that I am, in fact, a racist as I do not believe anything is equal: people, religions, cultures or dog siht... ;)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 05, 2008, 08:14:30 AM
Just interjecting to remind you all that I am, in fact, a racist as I do not believe anything is equal: people, religions, cultures or dog siht... ;)

you  mean apples and oranges..both fruit...but both distinctively taste different....
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: MarZutra on August 05, 2008, 09:21:24 AM
LOL...   O0
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on August 05, 2008, 09:28:56 AM
If a white Jewish couple adopts a black Jewish baby, there is NOTHING wrong with that in any way, shape, or form.

We are not concern with a person's color or genetics. We are concerned with a person's actions.

They would share a common identity with the child, which isn't true of a gentile couple that adopts a black baby.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Jewish Nationalist on August 05, 2008, 10:07:20 AM
Racist:

"All schwartzes are stupid."

Logical:

"Most schwartzes are stupid."
Well said. The first statement is a stereotype; the second statement is an objective scientific fact.

Whether or not schwarzes have a lower average intelligence than other groups is a factual question, not a moral question. The attempt to turn factual questions into moral questions is the essence of dogmatism.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on August 05, 2008, 10:13:10 AM
Racist:

"All schwartzes are stupid."

Logical:

"Most schwartzes are stupid."
Well said. The first statement is a stereotype; the second statement is an objective scientific fact.

Whether or not schwarzes have a lower average intelligence than other groups is a factual question, not a moral question. The attempt to turn factual questions into moral questions is the essence of dogmatism.

Liberals don't like facts that may badly reflect on a group they worship.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on August 05, 2008, 10:14:56 AM
As for racial separatism, mentioned earlier in this thread, an argument of wanting to conserve ethnic uniqueness can be made without an argument of supremacy.  This would probably require splitting America into different nations, as there is no American race.  America is basically a nation of dissidents who left behind their ancient ethnic homelands.  If you are interested in keeping ethnic groups from being absorbed into a greater new world order, it would be logical to fight that fight outside of America.

There are members of different races who undoubtedly have a right to the "American" identity. However, I don't think they should live together in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools, etc. and I think business owners of all races should be able to discriminate if they wish as to who patronizes their business or works at it.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 05, 2008, 10:20:22 AM
As for racial separatism, mentioned earlier in this thread, an argument of wanting to conserve ethnic uniqueness can be made without an argument of supremacy.  This would probably require splitting America into different nations, as there is no American race.  America is basically a nation of dissidents who left behind their ancient ethnic homelands.  If you are interested in keeping ethnic groups from being absorbed into a greater new world order, it would be logical to fight that fight outside of America.

There are members of different races who undoubtedly have a right to the "American" identity. However, I don't think they should live together in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools, etc. and I think business owners of all races should be able to discriminate if they wish as to who patronizes their business or works at it.

(http://www.brokerbryant.com/m/blogs/bbr/RACIST.jpg)Just kiddin
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on August 05, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
As for racial separatism, mentioned earlier in this thread, an argument of wanting to conserve ethnic uniqueness can be made without an argument of supremacy.  This would probably require splitting America into different nations, as there is no American race.  America is basically a nation of dissidents who left behind their ancient ethnic homelands.  If you are interested in keeping ethnic groups from being absorbed into a greater new world order, it would be logical to fight that fight outside of America.

There are members of different races who undoubtedly have a right to the "American" identity. However, I don't think they should live together in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools, etc. and I think business owners of all races should be able to discriminate if they wish as to who patronizes their business or works at it.

(http://www.brokerbryant.com/m/blogs/bbr/RACIST.jpg)Just kiddin

That picture is cute :)
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Americanhero1 on August 05, 2008, 10:27:02 AM
As for racial separatism, mentioned earlier in this thread, an argument of wanting to conserve ethnic uniqueness can be made without an argument of supremacy.  This would probably require splitting America into different nations, as there is no American race.  America is basically a nation of dissidents who left behind their ancient ethnic homelands.  If you are interested in keeping ethnic groups from being absorbed into a greater new world order, it would be logical to fight that fight outside of America.

There are members of different races who undoubtedly have a right to the "American" identity. However, I don't think they should live together in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools, etc. and I think business owners of all races should be able to discriminate if they wish as to who patronizes their business or works at it.

(http://www.brokerbryant.com/m/blogs/bbr/RACIST.jpg)Just kiddin

That picture is cute :)
;D
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: EagleEye on August 05, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
I'm actual arguing against the American ideal.  I think it has gone too far.  Being ethnically aware is not something that is encouraged by American society.

But i don't think its realistic for America to change.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Scriabin on August 05, 2008, 12:14:34 PM
Racist:

"All schwartzes are stupid."

Logical:

"Most schwartzes are stupid."
Well said. The first statement is a stereotype; the second statement is an objective scientific fact.

Whether or not schwarzes have a lower average intelligence than other groups is a factual question, not a moral question. The attempt to turn factual questions into moral questions is the essence of dogmatism.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on August 05, 2008, 12:33:59 PM
But i don't think its realistic for America to change.

And I think that's the point... an excellent point.

Americans commonly have this concept of the melting pot where everyone is exactly the same and comes from the same position which couldn't be further from the truth - it's over-simplified thinking. Somehow it's seen as racist, wrong, or egocentric to embrace your family lineage or history and choose the people whom you have something in common with. I think it would be terrible and boring if everyone just melded together and everyone became exactly the same. It would be a tragedy if different groups of people couldn't hold on to or continue to have things that were specific, unique, beautiful, or even quirky to their own cultures, people, and backgrounds.

But in order to become a mass movement, we have to be realistic and realize that many Americans are brainwashed and aren't ready for that much reality. That's why we have to be careful to present facts or credible references when it comes to these types of issues. We have to think about growing and gaining new members so we can become a mass movement and help change this planet for the better.

I used the Jewish example of white and black for a reason. I only used this because it's only right for Jewish people to raise or marry Jewish people (black, white, tan, or purple) in order to survive like we've done for nearly three thousand years.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Rubystars on August 05, 2008, 12:35:17 PM
Shlomo all Jews are Jews before they're anything else, or at least that's how it should be. They should have loyalty, love, and affection for their own people. Because of the exile, Jewish people have lived in many foreign lands and gained converts of many different colors and intermarried with them. This does not make any of these Jews less authentically Jewish. By God's miracle these people have kept their Jewish identity even in the exile. I pray that they will be able to live in true peace among fellow Jews in Israel with the holy city Jerusalem as its capital.
Title: Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
Post by: Shlomo on August 05, 2008, 12:39:52 PM
Shlomo all Jews are Jews before they're anything else, or at least that's how it should be. They should have loyalty, love, and affection for their own people. Because of the exile, Jewish people have lived in many foreign lands and gained converts of many different colors and intermarried with them. This does not make any of these Jews less authentically Jewish. By G-d's miracle these people have kept their Jewish identity even in the exile. I pray that they will be able to live in true peace among fellow Jews in Israel with the holy city Jerusalem as its capital.

G-d willing... this is my prayer. I long for the day when we might merit such a thing... and Rabbi Kahane has the only answer.