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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: Rubystars on August 04, 2008, 01:34:13 AM
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A while back someone asked me what I meant by the War of Northern Aggression. This video explains it very well. I disagree with the author of the video somewhat on his opinions of Lincoln, because I do think that Lincoln was an honorable man who wanted to heal relations as much as possible after the war and would have done so if not assassinated.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0LU9I0KxWi4&feature=related
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I think Lincoln (now) SUCKED. Look at the ramifications we are facing -now- for getting involved. the North set 'slaves' free, the south was on its way to do so. To have a war- brother killing brother, is the WORST war this nation has really EVER seen. I am a Nyer and was taught that Lincoln was great.. bla bla bla.. I DONT BELIEVE THIS ANYMORE AT ALL.
My family bled on the fields for people that HATE MY GUTTS, just b/c I am a 'white girl'.. Sounds pretty RIDICULOUS in the scheme of things. I use to take up for black people ALL THE TIME, unless it is a person I really TRUST, it will be hard now, considering the names I have heard black people calling me in paltalk.
While I FLAT OUT condemn racism, but- I am not going to be HAD either.
To be called a "White-Mo-Fo" for NOT voting obama, is BENEATH the PALE.
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Paulette, thanks for the response. There are so many parallels that can be drawn from that time to this one. Right now we're facing unfair taxation, oppressive government, and we're even being forced to form a "UNION", a NAU if you know what I mean, whether we like it or not, which we must fight at all costs.
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As someone residing in Dixie, I sympathize with the South and their decisions to secede from the Union, the North wanted a huge cut in the exports of the Souths tobbaco and cotton industry, New York was very close to seceding and joining as well, when politicians refused by the will of the majority, there was a lot of anger as a result.
Few people realize that slavery was not as big of a problem as it was made out to be, only the wealthy owned slaves, and it's well documented that there were even black slave owners in the south as well.
As for Abraham Lincoln, I recall that he wanted to send the freed slaves back to Africa, the US purchased Liberia and for whatever reason, it backfired. Many freed slaves fled there and it turned into a [censored].
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Paulette, thanks for the response. There are so many parallels that can be drawn from that time to this one. Right now we're facing unfair taxation, oppressive government, and we're even being forced to form a "UNION", a NAU if you know what I mean, whether we like it or not, which we must fight at all costs.
OH I TOTALLY agree!!! WE NEED to act like DAMN Yankees and Confederate Rebels once again- only this time against 500+ members that are sitting in OUR seats on Capital Hill, that WE PAY FOR.
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Paulette, thanks for the response. There are so many parallels that can be drawn from that time to this one. Right now we're facing unfair taxation, oppressive government, and we're even being forced to form a "UNION", a NAU if you know what I mean, whether we like it or not, which we must fight at all costs.
OH I TOTALLY agree!!! WE NEED to act like DAMN Yankees and Confederate Rebels once again- only this time against 500+ members that are sitting in OUR seats on Capital Hill, that WE PAY FOR.
Amen my sister! :)
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As someone residing in Dixie, I sympathize with the South and their decisions to secede from the Union, the North wanted a huge cut in the exports of the Souths tobbaco and cotton industry, New York was very close to seceding and joining as well, when politicians refused by the will of the majority, there was a lot of anger as a result.
I heard of that before, I think that's one of the things that doesn't generally get taught in school. That's really interesting, thanks for posting it.
Few people realize that slavery was not as big of a problem as it was made out to be, only the wealthy owned slaves, and it's well documented that there were even black slave owners in the south as well.
As for Abraham Lincoln, I recall that he wanted to send the freed slaves back to Africa, the US purchased Liberia and for whatever reason, it backfired. Many freed slaves fled there and it turned into a craphole.
Slavery needed to end, but the War of Northern Aggression was not fought for that purposes and slavery was on its way out anyway I believe. I think Liberia would have crashed and burned anyway but at least it wouldn't be our problem like it is today with most of the people that were supposed to go there, staying here.
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I think Lincoln (now) SUCKED. Look at the ramifications we are facing -now- for getting involved. the North set 'slaves' free, the south was on its way to do so. To have a war- brother killing brother, is the WORST war this nation has really EVER seen. I am a Nyer and was taught that Lincoln was great.. bla bla bla.. I DONT BELIEVE THIS ANYMORE AT ALL.
My family bled on the fields for people that HATE MY GUTTS, just b/c I am a 'white girl'.. Sounds pretty RIDICULOUS in the scheme of things. I use to take up for black people ALL THE TIME, unless it is a person I really TRUST, it will be hard now, considering the names I have heard black people calling me in paltalk.
While I FLAT OUT condemn racism, but- I am not going to be HAD either.
To be called a "White-Mo-Fo" for NOT voting obama, is BENEATH the PALE.
He did not want to free the slaves but he knew that was the only way to get the support from the north
He also wanted to send the slaves back to Africa but he was killed
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The North many people don'nt realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
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I think Lincoln (now) SUCKED. Look at the ramifications we are facing -now- for getting involved. the North set 'slaves' free, the south was on its way to do so. To have a war- brother killing brother, is the WORST war this nation has really EVER seen. I am a Nyer and was taught that Lincoln was great.. bla bla bla.. I DONT BELIEVE THIS ANYMORE AT ALL.
My family bled on the fields for people that HATE MY GUTTS, just b/c I am a 'white girl'.. Sounds pretty RIDICULOUS in the scheme of things. I use to take up for black people ALL THE TIME, unless it is a person I really TRUST, it will be hard now, considering the names I have heard black people calling me in paltalk.
While I FLAT OUT condemn racism, but- I am not going to be HAD either.
To be called a "White-Mo-Fo" for NOT voting obama, is BENEATH the PALE.
He did not want to free the slaves but he knew that was the only way to get the support from the north
He also wanted to send the slaves back to Africa but he was killed
Yes, he knew that black "culture" wasn't compatible with the European/Anglo culture of America and that while both deserving of human rights, they couldn't live together in peace in the same nation.
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
It's interesting to see where the red states and blue states fall today.
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I think Lincoln (now) SUCKED. Look at the ramifications we are facing -now- for getting involved. the North set 'slaves' free, the south was on its way to do so. To have a war- brother killing brother, is the WORST war this nation has really EVER seen. I am a Nyer and was taught that Lincoln was great.. bla bla bla.. I DONT BELIEVE THIS ANYMORE AT ALL.
My family bled on the fields for people that HATE MY GUTTS, just b/c I am a 'white girl'.. Sounds pretty RIDICULOUS in the scheme of things. I use to take up for black people ALL THE TIME, unless it is a person I really TRUST, it will be hard now, considering the names I have heard black people calling me in paltalk.
While I FLAT OUT condemn racism, but- I am not going to be HAD either.
To be called a "White-Mo-Fo" for NOT voting obama, is BENEATH the PALE.
He did not want to free the slaves but he knew that was the only way to get the support from the north
He also wanted to send the slaves back to Africa but he was killed
Yes, he knew that black "culture" wasn't compatible with the European/Anglo culture of America and that while both deserving of human rights, they couldn't live together in peace in the same nation.
But another reason he did not send them back was because of money.He said it would cost to much.
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
It's interesting to see where the red states and blue states fall today.
the same basically
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There were also many Jews that served in the confederacy and high ranks/positions.
Carpetbaggers need not apply.
The south is being destroyed by all the [censored] and third world scum, and we're made a laughing stock to the world. It's disgusting because the South were perfectionists in agriculture, Confederates were also very successful in testing some of the first subs for combat. There was also an episode on myth busters about a steam powered machine gun that the Confederates had drawn up plans for and worked.
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I think Lincoln (now) SUCKED. Look at the ramifications we are facing -now- for getting involved. the North set 'slaves' free, the south was on its way to do so. To have a war- brother killing brother, is the WORST war this nation has really EVER seen. I am a Nyer and was taught that Lincoln was great.. bla bla bla.. I DONT BELIEVE THIS ANYMORE AT ALL.
My family bled on the fields for people that HATE MY GUTTS, just b/c I am a 'white girl'.. Sounds pretty RIDICULOUS in the scheme of things. I use to take up for black people ALL THE TIME, unless it is a person I really TRUST, it will be hard now, considering the names I have heard black people calling me in paltalk.
While I FLAT OUT condemn racism, but- I am not going to be HAD either.
To be called a "White-Mo-Fo" for NOT voting obama, is BENEATH the PALE.
He did not want to free the slaves but he knew that was the only way to get the support from the north
He also wanted to send the slaves back to Africa but he was killed
Yes, he knew that black "culture" wasn't compatible with the European/Anglo culture of America and that while both deserving of human rights, they couldn't live together in peace in the same nation.
But another reason he did not send them back was because of money.He said it would cost to much.
Yep but now it's costing us more to keep them here, it cost money to put them in prison, to kill them (lethal injection), to give them clothes and feed them. Lets not forget the billions spent on welfare, we're really paying for it hard.
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
Yes that is true but during war it is killed or be killed
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
I still fail to understand the controversy over the Confederate flag, most people that are offended by it are blacks because they accuse it of being a flag representing slavery when in reality wouldn't the British or American flag be just as evil to them?
Unfortunately KKK and other white supremist groups have hijacked the Confederate flag for their own purposes, but I still see it as a symbol of the south.
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
Yes that is true but during war it is killed or be killed
Yes, and the South had to fight for its rights. O0
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
I still fail to understand the controversy over the Confederate flag, most people that are offended by it are blacks because they accuse it of being a flag representing slavery when in reality wouldn't the British or American flag be just as evil to them?
Unfortunately KKK and other white supremist groups have hijacked the Confederate flag for their own purposes, but I still see it as a symbol of the south.
(http://members.lycos.nl/dodge/rebel_flag2.jpg)
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
I still fail to understand the controversy over the Confederate flag, most people that are offended by it are blacks because they accuse it of being a flag representing slavery when in reality wouldn't the British or American flag be just as evil to them?
Unfortunately KKK and other white supremist groups have hijacked the Confederate flag for their own purposes, but I still see it as a symbol of the south.
(http://members.lycos.nl/dodge/rebel_flag2.jpg)
Ahh friend that is the Confederate battle flag otherwise known as the Dixie flag. The actual national flag (stars and bars) is slightly different. I have a Dixie flag however.
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While I respect Lincoln in some ways, I really wish that the North including Lincoln hadn't been so treacherous so that so many people didn't have to die. We'd have a lot more white people around if so many hadn't died. They would have left many more descendants.
I still fail to understand the controversy over the Confederate flag, most people that are offended by it are blacks because they accuse it of being a flag representing slavery when in reality wouldn't the British or American flag be just as evil to them?
Unfortunately KKK and other white supremist groups have hijacked the Confederate flag for their own purposes, but I still see it as a symbol of the south.
One of the Confederate songs that came out of Texas was "The Yellow Rose of Texas" and it has to do with, well, a Yellow (mulatto) woman in Texas which the negro soldier is in love with. It reminds people there were honorable black confederates as well.
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
They also try to make it out that every slave was daily whipped and raped. While that did occur sometimes, it was hardly a life of pure torture all the time for every black slave. Many slaves lived contentedly and loyally with their masters.
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
They also try to make it out that every slave was daily whipped and raped. While that did occur sometimes, it was hardly a life of pure torture all the time for every black slave. Many slaves lived contentedly and loyally with their masters.
Thanks to brainwashing, it's not just northern schools but southern schools teach us to be guilty as well saying Dixie "had" to lose and it's this guilt that we're still forced to feel over the whole thing. There is less racism in the south than there is in the north, even white supremists don't really want to live in the North anymore, their all relocating to the northwest to Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, etc.
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
They also try to make it out that every slave was daily whipped and raped. While that did occur sometimes, it was hardly a life of pure torture all the time for every black slave. Many slaves lived contentedly and loyally with their masters.
Thanks to brainwashing, it's not just northern schools but southern schools teach us to be guilty as well saying Dixie "had" to lose and it's this guilt that we're still forced to feel over the whole thing. There is less racism in the south than there is in the north, even white supremists don't really want to live in the North anymore, their all relocating to the northwest to Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, etc.
I was confused because I learned in school that the South was evil, and then my dad would talk about being proud of the South. It took doing some studying on my own to find out the truth.
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
They also try to make it out that every slave was daily whipped and raped. While that did occur sometimes, it was hardly a life of pure torture all the time for every black slave. Many slaves lived contentedly and loyally with their masters.
Thanks to brainwashing, it's not just northern schools but southern schools teach us to be guilty as well saying Dixie "had" to lose and it's this guilt that we're still forced to feel over the whole thing. There is less racism in the south than there is in the north, even white supremists don't really want to live in the North anymore, their all relocating to the northwest to Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, etc.
I was confused because I learned in school that the South was evil, and then my dad would talk about being proud of the South. It took doing some studying on my own to find out the truth.
That's how it was when I was up north too, were taught the South was evil. I remember one of the kids in our class was crying because he had a failing grade and said that his dad was going to send him to Texas for school and the teachers like "no no no! You don't want to go there, the school systems in the south are pretty bad and there's a lot of racism down there!", brainwashing at it's finest. The north likes to shelter everyone from the truth.
Regardless of the fact the South is officially part of the United States, The North And South are still apples and oranges, their quite different.
This about proves how ignorant people still are about the South
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071126220400AArBs1A
These idiots still claim South is racist
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqxYMMmUSCMakhMnlzqwqBwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071013102209AADIJXa
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhhALqjjDe.kzt_j2whzgBkjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060802170613AAs63yn
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As someone residing in Dixie, I sympathize with the South and their decisions to secede from the Union, the North wanted a huge cut in the exports of the Souths tobbaco and cotton industry, New York was very close to seceding and joining as well, when politicians refused by the will of the majority, there was a lot of anger as a result.
Few people realize that slavery was not as big of a problem as it was made out to be, only the wealthy owned slaves, and it's well documented that there were even black slave owners in the south as well.
As for Abraham Lincoln, I recall that he wanted to send the freed slaves back to Africa, the US purchased Liberia and for whatever reason, it backfired. Many freed slaves fled there and it turned into a craphole.
Can you post a link about this interesting topic? Someting reputable...Thank you..
I also wanted to ask you why you put "white" in front of "israelite" in your name. I think it should make no difference what race you are if you are a righteous person.
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
This is also very interesting. Where did you get this information from? I would personally hold a contrary view that the KKK was quite big down south.
That's not to say the north wasn't anti-semetic..I didnt' live in the 1860's to know this either. Can you site examples of this, what seems to be a revision?
Thank you.
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
This is also very interesting. Where did you get this information from? I would personally hold a contrary view that the KKK was quite big down south.
That's not to say the north wasn't anti-semetic..I didnt' live in the 1860's to know this either. Can you site examples of this, what seems to be a revision?
Thank you.
Of course there are KKK in the South but the KKK is so small nowadays that they have very little influence, you have all the big name racists in California nowadays, Illinois had some of the worst neo nazi organizations you could think of and still does.
These are all stereotypes by people who have never even lived in the south let alone visited it. Your safer in the South than most parts of New York City.
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The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
This is also very interesting. Where did you get this information from? I would personally hold a contrary view that the KKK was quite big down south.
That's not to say the north wasn't anti-semetic..I didnt' live in the 1860's to know this either. Can you site examples of this, what seems to be a revision?
Thank you.
Of course there are KKK in the South but the KKK is so small nowadays that they have very little influence, you have all the big name racists in California nowadays, Illinois had some of the worst neo nazi organizations you could think of and still does.
These are all stereotypes by people who have never even lived in the south let alone visited it. Your safer in the South than most parts of New York City.
I don't doubt that one bit...but being a northerner, I would prefer to live amongst Jews where some of its communities are large and concentrated versus the south where the Jewish communities are scarce and much smaller.
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As someone residing in Dixie, I sympathize with the South and their decisions to secede from the Union, the North wanted a huge cut in the exports of the Souths tobbaco and cotton industry, New York was very close to seceding and joining as well, when politicians refused by the will of the majority, there was a lot of anger as a result.
Few people realize that slavery was not as big of a problem as it was made out to be, only the wealthy owned slaves, and it's well documented that there were even black slave owners in the south as well.
As for Abraham Lincoln, I recall that he wanted to send the freed slaves back to Africa, the US purchased Liberia and for whatever reason, it backfired. Many freed slaves fled there and it turned into a craphole.
Can you post a link about this interesting topic? Someting reputable...Thank you..
I also wanted to ask you why you put "white" in front of "israelite" in your name. I think it should make no difference what race you are if you are a righteous person.
I am Meir, but I changed the name because the term "Israelites" has been hijacked by fringe movements like the black Hebrew Israelite movement and Christian Identity. As a Jew, the term Israelite should be reserved for us because Jews are related to the original Hebrews and Israelites therefore it is more of a identification more than anything.
Anyways for sources, here you go.
If all earthly power were given me," said Lincoln in a speech delivered in Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854, "I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land." After acknowledging that this plan's "sudden execution is impossible," he asked whether freed blacks should be made "politically and socially our equals?" "My own feelings will not admit of this," he said, "and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not ... We can not, then, make them equals."5
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5p-4_Morgan.html
Black Slaveowners: Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860 (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Slaveowners-Masters-Carolina-1790-1860/dp/1570030375
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.
FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.
U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."
Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!
Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!
http://www.rulen.com/myths/
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What really aggravates is the discussion on reparations for blacks again because of slavery like what was done for the Japanese internment. Reparation to the Japanese was paid to the actual people who were interned and lost homes and businesses. Black and Arab slavers took starving savages and brought them over to the US.
That said. I think slavery was evil and needed to end (although still happening today in the Islamic states). Many of the blacks in the US today, which are descendants of slaves, are driving Mercedes, shopping at Belks, and have a nicer house than I am living in.
If their ancestors had not been brought over as slaves they would be over in Africa today as we speak, starving to death, dying of Aids, hacking each other up with machetes or burning each other inside of tires.
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In 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. According to the U.S. census report for that last year before the Civil War, there were nearly 27 million whites in the country. Some eight million of them lived in the slaveholding states.
The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).
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What really aggravates is the discussion on reparations for blacks again because of slavery like what was done for the Japanese internment. Reparation to the Japanese was paid to the actual people who were interned and lost homes and businesses. Black and Arab slavers took starving savages and brought them over to the US.
That said. I think slavery was evil and needed to end (although still happening today in the Islamic states). Many of the blacks in the US today, which are descendants of slaves, are driving Mercedes, shopping at Belks, and have a nicer house than I am living in.
If their ancestors had not been brought over as slaves they would be over in Africa today as we speak, starving to death, dying of Aids, hacking each other up with machetes or burning each other inside of tires.
The war was not fought to free or to keep slaves. However, I agree with you that slavery needed to end, but it would have ended without the treachery of the North.
Cohen, I love the word pecksniffery. :)
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What really aggravates is the discussion on reparations for blacks again because of slavery like what was done for the Japanese internment. Reparation to the Japanese was paid to the actual people who were interned and lost homes and businesses. Black and Arab slavers took starving savages and brought them over to the US.
That said. I think slavery was evil and needed to end (although still happening today in the Islamic states). Many of the blacks in the US today, which are descendants of slaves, are driving Mercedes, shopping at Belks, and have a nicer house than I am living in.
If their ancestors had not been brought over as slaves they would be over in Africa today as we speak, starving to death, dying of Aids, hacking each other up with machetes or burning each other inside of tires.
The war was not fought to free or to keep slaves. However, I agree with you that slavery needed to end, but it would have ended without the treachery of the North.
Cohen, I love the word pecksniffery. :)
Turning our backs on the South, was TERRIBLE, CRIMINAL and TREASON, and Lincoln TOTALLY contradicted his words.
This one time I had a dream about Lincoln, and it is 100% ACCURATELY TRUTH that he suffered INTENSE depression, I FELT, literally FELT the anguish in this mans soul, as he killed AMERICANS.
Remember: THIS IS COMING FROM A NYer, that did NOT NOT NOT believe in ANYTHING but the Yankees were right, and the South wrong. Kind of like that "bush lied troops died" crappola.
The UNION could have LEARNED something from the SOUTH, and they DID NOT. the South KNEW HOW to deal with them, the north DID NOT. The North EMBOLDENED them, Big SORRY 100% MISTAKE.
They ALSO say that they were the HAPPIEST black people in Louisiana- I AGREE- HEAT- I have seen the HAPPIEST & MOST productive people, and they live in Scottsdale AZ, and Phoenix. I am not lying either, they LOVE LOVE LOVE the heat. This is crazy, what I am going to say, but Black people should FLAT OUT live in Southern AZ, and they should give the mex homes to THEM, and send the mex PACKING. Black people ARE AMERICAN.
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I'd much rather see them doing the work that illegals do.
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Really??? I had no clue......
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
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Really??? I had no clue......
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
It's true, there were many Jews in the confederate army and in command
More Than 10,000 Jews
Fought For The Confederacy
http://www.rense.com/general26/morethan10000.htm
By Thomas C. Mandes
Special to the Washington Times
6-18-2
The term "Johnny Reb" evokes an image of a white soldier, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant and from an agrarian background. Many Southern soldiers, however, did not fit this mold. A number of ethnic backgrounds were represented during the conflict.
For example, thousands of black Americans fought as Johnny Rebs. Dr. Lewis Steiner of the U.S. Sanitary Commission observed that while the Confederate army marched through Maryland during the 1862 Sharpsburg (Antietam) campaign, "over 3,000 negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie knives, dirks, etc. And were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army."
There also were Hispanic Confederates. Col. Santos Benavides, a former Texas Ranger, city attorney and mayor of Laredo, Texas, commanded the 33rd Texas Cavalry, while Gen. Refugio Benavides protected what was known as the Confederacy of the Rio Grande. Recent Irish Catholic immigrants also chose to fight for the South, as did a few stalwart Chinese who served nobly in Louisiana.
The largest ethnic group to serve the Confederacy, however, was made up of first-, second- and third-generation Jewish lads. Old Jewish families, initially Sephardic and later Ashkenazic, had settled in the South generations before the war. Jews had lived in Charleston, S.C., since 1695. By 1800, the largest Jewish community in America lived in Charleston, where the oldest synagogue in America, K.K. Beth Elohim, was founded. By 1861, a third of all the Jews in America lived in Louisiana.
More than 10,000 Jews fought for the Confederacy. As Rabbi Korn of Charleston related, "Nowhere else in America - certainly not in the Antebellum North - had Jews been accorded such an opportunity to be complete equals as in the old South." Gen. Robert E. Lee allowed his Jewish soldiers to observe all holy days, while Gens. Ulysses S. Grant and William T. Sherman issued anti-Jewish orders.
Many young Jews served in the ranks. There were a number of Jewish officers who were part and parcel of Southern society. They had spent their formative years in the South defensive about slavery and hostile about what they perceived as Northern aggression and condescension toward the South. Some of the more notable among the officer corps included Abraham Myers, a West Point graduate and a classmate of Lee's in the class of 1832. Myers served as quartermaster general and, before the war, fought the Indians in Florida. The city of Fort Myers was named after him.
Another Jewish officer, Maj. Adolph Proskauer of Mobile, Ala., was wounded several times. One of his subordinate officers wrote, "I can see him now as he nobly carried himself at Gettysburg, standing coolly and calmly with a cigar in his mouth at the head of the 12th Alabama amid a perfect rain of bullets, shot, and shell. He was the personification of intrepid gallantry and imperturbable courage."
In North Carolina, the six Cohen brothers fought in the 40th Infantry. The first Confederate Jew killed in the war was Albert Lurie Moses of Charlotte, N.C. All-Jewish companies reported to the fray from Macon and Savannah in Georgia. In Louisiana, three Jews reached the rank of colonel: S.M. Hymans, Edwin Kunsheedt and Ira Moses.
Many Southern Jews became world-renowned during this period. Moses Jacob Ezekiel from Richmond fought at New Market with his fellow cadets from the Virginia Military Institute and became a noted sculptor. His mother, Catherine Ezekiel, said she would not tolerate a son who declined to fight for the Confederacy.
He wrote in his memoirs, "We were not fighting for the perpetuation of slavery, but for the principle of States Rights and Free Trade, and in defense of our homes which were being ruthlessly invaded."
In tribute to Ezekiel, it was written, "The eye that saw is closed, the hand that executed is still, the soldier lad who fought so well was knighted and lauded in foreign land, but dying, his last request was that he might rest among his old comrades in Arlington Cemetery."
The most famous Southern Jew of the era was Judah Benjamin. He was the first Jewish U.S. senator and declined a seat on the Supreme Court and an offer to be ambassador to Spain. Educated in law at Yale, he was at one time or another during the war the Confederacy's attorney general, secretary of war and secretary of state. After the war, he settled in England, where he became a lawyer and wrote a seminal legal text.
Simon Baruch, a Prussian immigrant, settled in Camden, S.C. He received his degree from the Medical College of Virginia and entered the conflict as a physician in the 3rd South Carolina Battalion, where he joined the fighting before the Battle of Second Manassas. He eventually became surgeon general of the Confederacy.
While he was away during the war, his fiancee, Isabelle Wolfe, painted his portrait in the family home in South Carolina. It was at this time that Sherman began his March to the Sea. His raiders set the Wolfe house afire, and as she rescued the portrait, a Yankee ripped it with his bayonet and slapped her. Witnessing this, a Union officer gave the attacker a beating with his sword.
From this, a romance began to blossom - quickly squelched by the young woman's father, who remarked: "Marriage to a gentile is bad enough, but marriage to a Yankee, never, ever, it is out of the question." Isabelle Wolfe eventually married Baruch. After the war, they moved to New York City, where he set up what became a prominent medical practice on West 57th Street.
Mrs. Baruch became a member of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, and the couple raised their children with pro-Southern views. If a band struck up "Dixie," Dr. Baruch would jump up and give the Rebel yell, much to the chagrin of the family. A man of usual reserve and dignity, Dr. Baruch nevertheless would let loose with the piercing yell even in the Metropolitan Opera House.
Their son Bernard became the most successful financier of his time and one of the best-known American Jews of the 20th century. Bernard Baruch was an adviser to presidents from World War I to World War II and became a confidant of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Today, little remains of the Jewish Confederate South. With the mass migrations from Russia and Eastern Europe, new immigrants knew little if anything of the struggle that had ensued during the preceding half-century. Confederate Southern Jewry eventually disappeared.
Thomas C. Mandes is a physician in Vienna, Va. http://www.washtimes.com/civilwar/20020615-7163682.htm
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I'd much rather see them doing the work that illegals do.
Well that too, but do you see my general idea?
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Jews were involved in great American causes way before the Civil War as well...
Haym Solomon (or Salomon) (1740–1785) was a Polish Jew who immigrated to New York during the period of the American Revolution, and who became a prime financier of the American side during the American Revolutionary War against Great Britain. He was born in Leszno (Lissa), Poland, the son of a rabbi, and after leaving Poland, probably in 1772 at the time of Polish partition,[1] immigrated to New York City circa 1775. In New York, he sympathized with the Revolutionary movement, and joined the Sons of Liberty.
During the war, Solomon was twice arrested by the British; in 1776 he was arrested as a spy and served as a German interpreter for the British military's Hessian mercenaries. In 1778 Solomon was sentenced to death, but escaped to Philadelphia,[2] where he acted as a broker for the Office of Finance. Solomon worked extensively with Robert Morris, the Superintendent for Finance for the Thirteen Colonies, and is mentioned nearly seventy-five times in Morris' personal correspondance relating to the financing of the Revolution.[3] Solomon also provided financial services to Continental Congressional delegates James Madison and James Wilson,[4] and during the War became the broker to the French consul, the treasurer of the French Army that aided the Continental Army, and the fiscal agent of the French minister to the United States.[5]
He was also active in Philadelphia's Jewish community and was a member of Congregation Mikveh Israel. He died in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at the age of 45.
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I'd much rather see them doing the work that illegals do.
Well that too, but do you see my general idea?
I'm trying to. The North emboldened the blacks, yes. They emboldened them so much that now the blacks feel entitled to everything white people have, even including the right to rape and murder whites at massive rates.
I'd say that the blacks who behaved honorably deserve to be called Americans but the ones who fell into that gimme dat gimme dat mindset shouldn't be here at all.
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
Who takes Borat seriously?
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
Good find ;). Yep Arizona isn't the south :D
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
Good find ;). Yep Arizona isn't the south :D
Yeah it's Mexico :D
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
Good find ;). Yep Arizona isn't the south :D
Yeah it's Mexico :D
Exactomundo :::D
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
Good find ;). Yep Arizona isn't the south :D
Yeah it's Mexico :D
Exactomundo :::D
Muy Bien
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Wasn't Borat's "throw the jew down the well" routine done in a southern state of the USA, like texas?
How do you know it wasn't in some state like Wyoming or Idaho? You assume everyone that wears cowboy hats are from Texas?
I've never even been to the USA.
Anyway, I said "like texas"
He sang the song at a country music club in Tucson, Arizona
Good find ;). Yep Arizona isn't the south :D
Yeah it's Mexico :D
Exactomundo :::D
Muy Bien
Urp!
{musta been the beans ;D :laugh: }
muman613
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Some of us Northerners believe the bible too.......:)
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
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Some of us Northerners believe the bible too.......:)
Good. I wish more did, because the Northeast is a real pain in the behind every four years come President-electing time.
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Some of us Northerners believe the bible too.......:)
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
Indeed some of us do!
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Some of us Northerners believe the bible too.......:)
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
Indeed some of us do!
All regions of the USA need more bible believers.
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Some of us Northerners believe the bible too.......:)
The North many people don't realize was very anti semitic while the South welcomed Jews
That is because the south is bible believing
Indeed some of us do!
All regions of the USA need more bible believers.
I believe the time is coming when the WHOLE WORLD will be filled with Hashems glory. Nobody will be able to deny it. Amazing acts will be known amongst the nations. When Moshiach is here there will be no doubt. I feel the rumblings of the coming of Moshiach and I am trying to be ready in my mind and in my soul to make the move to Eretz Yisroel, our Holy Land. An era of peace and progress will be ushered in as the prophets have foretold. It may seem like a pipe-dream but this is where we are heading. This era we live in was seen by our holy prophets. When the young will not respect the old and the cost of things skyrocket. When the world seems like it is most upside down is when Moshiach will come. When the evil seems to be winning and the righteous are like fools. This is the time we are living in. When pimps and hoes are flaunting their lifestyle while the honest man suffers it is the time of Moshiach.
We can, through our thoughts, speech, and deeds, make this world a better place. We cannot force people to believe, we can only show them the benefits of believing. The mission which was passed to the Jewish people was to be a light amongst the nations, bringing the Shechina {divine presence} into the physical world. I believe America was so succesful because of our basic belief in the words of Hashem to his Children at Mount Sinai. And it is because of the loss of these beliefs that America fell so far after WWII.
Thank you,
muman613
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I must respectfully disagree with your calling The Civil War or The War Between The States - The War of Northern Aggression.
From what I understand of history the first shots were fired by the South. ;)
I realize that I may not have a popular view on the forum but I'm going to stick to calling it the Civil War when I discuss that period in history.
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I must respectfully disagree with your calling The Civil War or The War Between The States - The War of Northern Aggression.
From what I understand of history the first shots were fired by the South. ;)
I realize that I may not have a popular view on the forum but I'm going to stick to calling it the Civil War when I discuss that period in history.
Yes, I agree. We should not be re-opening the wounds of that war. I just thank the L-rd that peace was achieved. I grew up in New England so I guess Im a Yankee at heart. I bear no malice against the south and think the war was terrible for all involved. My family only arrived in this great country in the early 1900s so we were not involved with this conflict. My family left pogroms in Ukraine and Poland where they were killing my people.
We are of similar opinions in many areas and we should concentrate on strengthening those areas.
muman613
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I must respectfully disagree with your calling The Civil War or The War Between The States - The War of Northern Aggression.
From what I understand of history the first shots were fired by the South. ;)
I realize that I may not have a popular view on the forum but I'm going to stick to calling it the Civil War when I discuss that period in history.
Yes, I agree. We should not be re-opening the wounds of that war. I just thank the L-rd that peace was achieved. I grew up in New England so I guess Im a Yankee at heart. I bear no malice against the south and think the war was terrible for all involved. My family only arrived in this great country in the early 1900s so we were not involved with this conflict. My family left pogroms in Ukraine and Poland where they were killing my people.
We are of similar opinions in many areas and we should concentrate on strengthening those areas.
muman613
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The wounds are still open and bleeding, there's no need to re-open them, they're open and have never healed.
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The wounds are still open and bleeding, there's no need to re-open them, they're open and have never healed.
Ruby,
I am very sorry it still is hurting. It is hard for me to imagine how difficult it must be to have lost loved ones in that conflict and still be able to unite as one nation. What is it which will ease your pain?
muman613
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The wounds are still open and bleeding, there's no need to re-open them, they're open and have never healed.
Ruby,
I am very sorry it still is hurting. It is hard for me to imagine how difficult it must be to have lost loved ones in that conflict and still be able to unite as one nation. What is it which will ease your pain?
muman613
The South has been hurt by people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and others who represent the Northeastern, leftwing, extreme liberal, high taxes, government controlling everything, agenda. The people in the North will suffer for it too but many of them don't know it yet and they keep voting for these filthy animals.
Most soldiers who fight and die for the USA today are from the South and yet they come back to a nation that disrespects them and makes fun of them and calls them racist, rednecks, backwards, white trash, etc.
Their heritage is slandered and either lied about and made out to be about slavery, or condescendingly referred to etc.
Traditional Biblical values are smeared as being homophobic, backwards, and all kinds of other things.
The Northeast has done everything it can to completely destroy state's rights. We can't even outlaw abortion in the South because big old powerful central government tells states what they can and cannot do, or else.
The cannons and muskets might not be firing anymore but the ideological and cultural rift goes on.
I don't know what would make it better, but I think as I said that everyone in this nation needs to look at Biblical values and also realize that government is not the solution to everything and we shouldn't be taxed to death.
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The wounds are still open and bleeding, there's no need to re-open them, they're open and have never healed.
Ruby,
I am very sorry it still is hurting. It is hard for me to imagine how difficult it must be to have lost loved ones in that conflict and still be able to unite as one nation. What is it which will ease your pain?
muman613
The South has been hurt by people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and others who represent the Northeastern, leftwing, extreme liberal, high taxes, government controlling everything, agenda. The people in the North will suffer for it too but many of them don't know it yet and they keep voting for these filthy animals.
Most soldiers who fight and die for the USA today are from the South and yet they come back to a nation that disrespects them and makes fun of them and calls them racist, rednecks, backwards, white trash, etc.
Their heritage is slandered and either lied about and made out to be about slavery, or condescendingly referred to etc.
Traditional Biblical values are smeared as being homophobic, backwards, and all kinds of other things.
The Northeast has done everything it can to completely destroy state's rights. We can't even outlaw abortion in the South because big old powerful central government tells states what they can and cannot do, or else.
The cannons and muskets might not be firing anymore but the ideological and cultural rift goes on.
I don't know what would make it better, but I think as I said that everyone in this nation needs to look at Biblical values and also realize that government is not the solution to everything and we shouldn't be taxed to death.
Ruby,
This is a very good reply. I do agree that the south gets a bad reputation because of false reports. I personally don't blame any of the people who live in the south for the things which happened 100s of years ago. It is also true that I dont hold what happened 60 years ago in Germany against the people of Germany today. I work with people from all over the world, including some Germans.
I know that the majority of Northerners are Democrats and liberals now. But I grew up in a house where my father was a right wing republican all his life {still is}. My mother is a life long Democrat. Only because I matured due to life experience did I come back to Torah and Mitzvot.
muman613
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Muman I wish you the best. O0
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The wounds are still open and bleeding, there's no need to re-open them, they're open and have never healed.
Ruby,
I am very sorry it still is hurting. It is hard for me to imagine how difficult it must be to have lost loved ones in that conflict and still be able to unite as one nation. What is it which will ease your pain?
muman613
The South has been hurt by people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and others who represent the Northeastern, leftwing, extreme liberal, high taxes, government controlling everything, agenda. The people in the North will suffer for it too but many of them don't know it yet and they keep voting for these filthy animals.
Most soldiers who fight and die for the USA today are from the South and yet they come back to a nation that disrespects them and makes fun of them and calls them racist, rednecks, backwards, white trash, etc.
Their heritage is slandered and either lied about and made out to be about slavery, or condescendingly referred to etc.
Traditional Biblical values are smeared as being homophobic, backwards, and all kinds of other things.
The Northeast has done everything it can to completely destroy state's rights. We can't even outlaw abortion in the South because big old powerful central government tells states what they can and cannot do, or else.
The cannons and muskets might not be firing anymore but the ideological and cultural rift goes on.
I don't know what would make it better, but I think as I said that everyone in this nation needs to look at Biblical values and also realize that government is not the solution to everything and we shouldn't be taxed to death.
I take offense at being lumped in with the likes of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry ;) even if I have been one of the dreaded North Easterners my whole life.
I think you paint us with quite a broad brush RubyStars.
We are not all as you described. Far from it. :)
Many young people from the North East are serving side by side in the military with those great young people from the South.
I, in fact, know many of them.
I don't think it makes a difference where they come from when on the battlefield. We, and they, are either United or we die.
Muman is a very nice person and a Northerner to boot.
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I take offense at being lumped in with the likes of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry ;) even if I have been one of the dreaded North Easterners my whole life.
I think you paint us with quite a broad brush RubyStars.
We are not all as you described. Far from it. :)
Many young people from the North East are serving side by side in the military with those great young people from the South.
I, in fact, know many of them.
I don't think it makes a difference where they come from when on the battlefield. We, and they, are either United or we die.
Muman is a very nice person and a Northerner to boot.
I don't mean any offense to you or other honorable people.
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Robert E. Lee says it well in his quote:
"So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that Slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interest of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this that I would have cheerfully lost all that I have lost by the war, and have suffered all that I have suffered to have this object attained."
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I take offense at being lumped in with the likes of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry ;) even if I have been one of the dreaded North Easterners my whole life.
I think you paint us with quite a broad brush RubyStars.
We are not all as you described. Far from it. :)
Many young people from the North East are serving side by side in the military with those great young people from the South.
I, in fact, know many of them.
I don't think it makes a difference where they come from when on the battlefield. We, and they, are either United or we die.
Muman is a very nice person and a Northerner to boot.
I don't mean any offense to you or other honorable people.
I know that RubyStars. :)
I just don't believe we should be a divided country.
There are really great people in the North and the South.
That is obvious by the members of the forum.
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A while back someone asked me what I meant by the War of Northern Aggression. This video explains it very well. I disagree with the author of the video somewhat on his opinions of Lincoln, because I do think that Lincoln was an honorable man who wanted to heal relations as much as possible after the war and would have done so if not assassinated.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0LU9I0KxWi4&feature=related
I believe I was the one that asked you that a few weeks ago and I found the video raised some issues for me that I need to look into. It really is sad when you think about it that so many people died over issues that should have been settled in congress without a shot being fired. Your video talks about confiscatory taxation and that may have well been one of the problems but where I disagree with the video is the fact that they play down the slavery aspect of the times. Plain and simply southern plantation owners did not want to give up their slaves. They had no way to run the tobacco and cotton plantations without cheap labor. I would have much rather that slavery never existed and blacks were left in Africa where they were because we are paying the price for bringing them here for that reason today. The northern slave traders and the southern plantation owners all share in the blame for leaving us with the scourge we have on today's society. I can see how bad feelings might be present for 50 or 75 years after the conflict but for this to be an issue in the south today is really sour grapes.The dynamics of the country has changed so much that it really is pointless to hold grudges like this any longer. Northerners and Southerners today are so far removed from that time its almost as if you were talking about things that happened in another world. I think there are economic advantages to living in different parts of the country today but I think it has a lot more to do with economics and not the Mason Dixon Line.
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I know that RubyStars. :)
I just don't believe we should be a divided country.
There are really great people in the North and the South.
That is obvious by the members of the forum.
I would like to see all regions of the United States come together as a single nation with common goals and values one day and for true healing to happen.
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CJD, it's not sour grapes at all. The issue is still very relevant. I suppose I can't change your mind about that. Anyway, I couldn't remember who asked, but I'm glad I could finally explain a little better what I meant.
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CJD, it's not sour grapes at all. The issue is still very relevant. I suppose I can't change your mind about that. Anyway, I couldn't remember who asked, but I'm glad I could finally explain a little better what I meant.
Thanks for posting the video it was interesting. I will look into the taxation angle when I get some time. I just don't see how in the long run a divided America would work out as time went on. The mindset on the Civil War is very different for people here in the north. For us right or wrong its almost a non issue. With all the multitude of problems today its hard to look so far into the past for problems. I guess the loss of life during combat and then what the south went through during reconstruction makes it a lasting issue.
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the south was if anything good, my school population is taught what turns out to be propoganda, i mean were taught only of the harsh times and people of the south, its sickening and i am glad that the last generation was at least taught with a fair telling of both sides
They also try to make it out that every slave was daily whipped and raped. While that did occur sometimes, it was hardly a life of pure torture all the time for every black slave. Many slaves lived contentedly and loyally with their masters.
Thanks to brainwashing, it's not just northern schools but southern schools teach us to be guilty as well saying Dixie "had" to lose and it's this guilt that we're still forced to feel over the whole thing. There is less racism in the south than there is in the north, even white supremists don't really want to live in the North anymore, their all relocating to the northwest to Idaho, Wyoming, Oregon, etc.
I was confused because I learned in school that the South was evil, and then my dad would talk about being proud of the South. It took doing some studying on my own to find out the truth.
That's how it was when I was up north too, were taught the South was evil. I remember one of the kids in our class was crying because he had a failing grade and said that his dad was going to send him to Texas for school and the teachers like "no no no! You don't want to go there, the school systems in the south are pretty bad and there's a lot of racism down there!", brainwashing at it's finest. The north likes to shelter everyone from the truth.
Regardless of the fact the South is officially part of the United States, The North And South are still apples and oranges, their quite different.
This about proves how ignorant people still are about the South
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071126220400AArBs1A
These idiots still claim South is racist
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqxYMMmUSCMakhMnlzqwqBwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071013102209AADIJXa
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhhALqjjDe.kzt_j2whzgBkjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060802170613AAs63yn
the reason so many people are openly brainwashed in the north is because african americans cannot grasp the idea of being equal, its a cop out that many use as a way to gain sympathy >:(