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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on August 11, 2008, 05:18:37 PM
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towards the end, Chaim states, "Almost all of them (Arabs) except for a handful of them, want to destroy Israel."
1:41:57 that's where it starts.
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towards the end, Chaim states, "Almost all of them (Arabs) except for a handful of them, want to destroy Israel."
1:41:57 that's where it starts.
I think Chaim might be talking about groups like http://arabsforisrael.com/ right?
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He must mean people like Walid Shoebat, Joseph Farah, Brigitte Gabriel, and Wafa Sultan.
People like that surely compose no more than 1% of 1% of Arabs, which is truly a handful.
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He must mean people like Walid Shoebat, Joseph Farah, Brigitte Gabriel, and Wafa Sultan.
People like that surely compose no more than 1% of 1% of Arabs, which is truly a handful.
Brigitte Gabriel is my favorite...what a beauty
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He must mean people like Walid Shoebat, Joseph Farah, Brigitte Gabriel, and Wafa Sultan.
People like that surely compose no more than 1% of 1% of Arabs, which is truly a handful.
That must be what he meant.
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97% of Arabs are Muslim.. he means that 97%, plus probably some of the brainwashed Christian/Druze Arabs..
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Almost all means that only a tiny handful are exceptions to this rule. Almost all Arabs want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people.
The poll taken during the 2006 Lebanon war, for instance, found that 97% of the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District said that they support the Hezballah terrorist mass murderers. The poll was taken by Near East Consulting, an Arab polling firm, and I believe that the poll was accurate.
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Almost all means that only a tiny handful are exceptions to this rule. Almost all Arabs want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people.
The poll taken during the 2006 Lebanon war, for instance, found that 97% of the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District said that they support the Hezballah terrorist mass murderers. The poll was taken by Near East Consulting, an Arab polling firm, and I believe that the poll was accurate.
do you have a link for this? I tried googling it but I could not find the poll you referenced.
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Almost all means that only a tiny handful are exceptions to this rule. Almost all Arabs want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people.
The poll taken during the 2006 Lebanon war, for instance, found that 97% of the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District said that they support the Hezballah terrorist mass murderers. The poll was taken by Near East Consulting, an Arab polling firm, and I believe that the poll was accurate.
I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
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another thing about the olympics question....You stated that "in your opinion" israel should stay out of it. I disagree wtih your opinion, but it's nevertheless, just an opinion...so I also want to give credit where due in your language, Chaim.
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Chaim, I agree with you about most arabs wanting to destroy Israel but I would have to say that if the word "Islam" was used, you would have to say that %99.99999999999 of those want to slaughter all the infidels. I think even that high a percentage is debatable as it might be more.
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Chaim, I agree with you about most arabs wanting to destroy Islam but I would have to say that if the word "Islam" was used, you would have to say that %99.99999999999 of those want to slaughter all the infidels. I think even that high a percentage is debatable as it might be more.
Im sorry if I dont agree... If this were the case I should be dead already...
muman613
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Chaim, I agree with you about most arabs wanting to destroy Israel but I would have to say that if the word "Islam" was used, you would have to say that %99.99999999999 of those want to slaughter all the infidels. I think even that high a percentage is debatable as it might be more.
Im sorry if I dont agree... If this were the case I should be dead already...
muman613
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That was a typo, sorry.
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97% of Arabs are Muslim.. he means that 97%, plus probably some of the brainwashed Christian/Druze Arabs..
The vast majority of both Christians and Druze are Nazis. Samir Kuntar (yimach schmo) is a Druze. Druzism is a hybrid of Christianity and Islam, I believe.
But the actual "Christian" Arabs are just as bad. Look at how all the Maronites cheered at the "homecoming" of Lebanese "national hero" Samir Kuntar. Yimach schmo to all of them. The only Lebanese Maronite I know of who has spoken out for Israel is Brigitte Gabriel, and I recall that she has acknowledged that most Maronites are vicious Jew-haters.
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The poll taken during the 2006 Lebanon war, for instance, found that 97% of the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District said that they support the Hezballah terrorist mass murderers. The poll was taken by Near East Consulting, an Arab polling firm, and I believe that the poll was accurate.
Chaim, I can guarantee you that most of that 3% that claimed to oppose Hezbollah's actions wanted to say the "right thing" (i.e. taqqiyah) for Western audiences to hear.
The correct figure for Hezbollah support for Israeli Arab Nazis is probably well upwards of 99%.
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I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
Dan, I think that we can safely say that ALL Arabs are Nazis. Individual one-offs like Wafa Sultan and Joseph Farah are not even a drop in the bucket. They are vaporized H20 molecules in the atmosphere.
I would be enormously surprised if we could find as many as fifteen to twenty truly Zionistic Arabs in the entire United States, and I am counting Farah and Gabriel.
The figure of Arabs who perhaps genuinely don't care about Israel or Jews one way or another is probably quite a bit higher, perhaps in the hundreds or low thousands even, but when push comes to shove, there can be very little doubt which side most of these Arabs will choose.
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97% of Arabs are Muslim.. he means that 97%, plus probably some of the brainwashed Christian/Druze Arabs..
Druzism is a hybrid of Christianity and Islam, I believe.
No I'm pretty sure it's not. Druze religion is very unique and from what I've read about it it has nothing to do with Christianity.
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I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
The direction toward what exactly?
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I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
The direction toward what exactly?
Not looking like a nutcase to the masses and bringing this group more into the mainstream. You can beg for it for a million years to become a mass movement..Decent people don't join movements that say that ALL of a certain group are bad. Ort ALL of a certain group are good.
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97% arabs. 100% muslims.
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I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
The direction toward what exactly?
Not looking like a nutcase to the masses and bringing this group more into the mainstream. You can beg for it for a million years to become a mass movement..Decent people don't join movements that say that ALL of a certain group are bad. Ort ALL of a certain group are good.
I think it's not a step in the right direction, it's a step that is an endpoint in itself. We should not step into the liberal-lie-machine territory and stretch one bit further by saying "most muslims are moderate" and other lies the media peddles. It is important to keep honesty. I personally do not think Chaim ever said that ALL Arabs hate Israel, that usually he will say things like 'the vast majority' 'most' etc which keeps it honest and reasonable. But certainly some people here do say things like 'all arabs are nazis' or everyone and his brother is a nazi, which does end up diluting our message. If everyone's a nazi then it no longer makes sense to call it to anyone - it no longer has meaning or impact. It's the Muslim nazi regimes and muslim nazi terrorist org's and participants that are the nazis. Not, "every guy I don't like" .... So on this we certainly agree Dr. Dan.
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I'll refer to the main site:
There Are No Arab "Moderates" (Part 1 of 2)
http://jtf.org/israel/israel.arab.moderates.part.one.htm (http://jtf.org/israel/israel.arab.moderates.part.one.htm)
There Are No Arab "Moderates" (Part 2 of 2)
http://jtf.org/israel/israel.arab.moderates.part.two.htm (http://jtf.org/israel/israel.arab.moderates.part.two.htm)
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I simply wanted to bring up the point of your rational minded opinions. You weren't stating that ALL, but "almost ALL"...That's a step in the right direction.
The direction toward what exactly?
Not looking like a nutcase to the masses and bringing this group more into the mainstream. You can beg for it for a million years to become a mass movement..Decent people don't join movements that say that ALL of a certain group are bad. Ort ALL of a certain group are good.
I think it's not a step in the right direction, it's a step that is an endpoint in itself. We should not step into the liberal-lie-machine territory and stretch one bit further by saying "most muslims are moderate" and other lies the media peddles. It is important to keep honesty. I personally do not think Chaim ever said that ALL Arabs hate Israel, that usually he will say things like 'the vast majority' 'most' etc which keeps it honest and reasonable. But certainly some people here do say things like 'all arabs are nazis' or everyone and his brother is a nazi, which does end up diluting our message. If everyone's a nazi then it no longer makes sense to call it to anyone - it no longer has meaning or impact. It's the Muslim nazi regimes and muslim nazi terrorist org's and participants that are the nazis. Not, "every guy I don't like" .... So on this we certainly agree Dr. Dan.
Thank you...you summarized exactly what i was trying to say...
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another thing about the olympics question....You stated that "in your opinion" israel should stay out of it. I disagree wtih your opinion, but it's nevertheless, just an opinion...so I also want to give credit where due in your language, Chaim.
jews were heavily persecuted by greeks(think chanukah and forcing of greek culture on us), and later by romans(think rabbi akiva and bar koziba/kochba).
If you consider greek persecution of jews, and how jews would assimilate into greek culture and partake in the greek sports.. The basis for the olympics of today. The greek hashkafa(philosophy) - which the olympics memorialises - is historically at least, the anti-thesis of judaism..
They wanted perfection of the body and considered circumcision to be a blemish.. They banned circumcision. I read somewhere of jewish women being paraded on the streets with their murdered children hanging around their necks
An anti zionist I used to speak to made a very interesting point.. He said look at how (he said "the zionists", but for us, that means secular zionists). Look at how they take the concept of the Maccabees, and make a sports club out of it. As if the Maccabees were sportsmen. (There is a jewish social/sports club called Maccabee!)