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Title: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 11, 2008, 06:50:04 PM
Pretty simple poll...

Chaimfan
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Rubystars on August 11, 2008, 06:53:42 PM
I think it's funny how with his name you don't even have to change it like you do with the names of others.  ;D
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Scriabin on August 11, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
Call him Michael Sewage.

It is more clever and less profane.
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Rubystars on August 11, 2008, 07:12:48 PM
Call him Michael Sewage.

It is more clever and less profane.

That is a good name :)
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: briann on August 11, 2008, 07:15:13 PM
I'm listening to him right now.  Yes, he's all over the place on Georgia... changing his mind as he speaks...  still, very entertaining.



Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 11, 2008, 07:26:14 PM
 ^-^
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Vito on August 11, 2008, 07:42:47 PM
Yes, he flip flops.. but he can be very informative and very entertaining. I've learned many things (especially about history) by listening to his show, so I can't totally knock him. But yes, the flip flopping can be unbearable..
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 11, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
ok enough of this obsession with Michael Savage.

He is nothing more than an entertainer and who likes to give opinions.  His ego matters more than anything, but he's better than the most leftist types of radio hosts.  An entertainer tries to do his job as most entertainers do.  If someone wants to take someone seriously on the right wing, Chaim is one of those people who woudl be best to take seriously.  Not Michael Savage.
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: Rubystars on August 11, 2008, 09:46:51 PM
ok enough of this obsession with Michael Savage.

He is nothing more than an entertainer and who likes to give opinions.  His ego matters more than anything, but he's better than the most leftist types of radio hosts.  An entertainer tries to do his job as most entertainers do.  If someone wants to take someone seriously on the right wing, Chaim is one of those people who woudl be best to take seriously.  Not Michael Savage.

Nice summary!
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: MarZutra on August 11, 2008, 09:53:28 PM
Aside from his flip flopping or his butt licking of any "Palestinian" that happens to call in, I feel Savage is about 80% spot on most of the time.  He's the best that's out there.  Sometimes I have to turn him off because he gets so infuriating on certain subjects.  I disagree with him that "All Religions lead to G-d."  I disagree with him entirely concerning the Middle East, Israel and Mohammadans.  I disagree on his embracement of "Evolution".  I disagree with him on when he brags about him having a real PhD.  Most of the people that are actively distroying America hold the exact same PhD's. 

I think Dr. Paul Johnson summed it up nicely within his fabulous book "Intellectuals":

"But I think I detect today a certain public scepticism when intellectuals stand up to preach to us, a growing tendency among ordinary people to dispute the right of academics, writers and philosophers, eminent though they may be, to tell us how to behave and conduct our affairs.  The belief seems to be spreading that intellectuals are no wiser as mentors, or worthier as exemplars, than the witch doctors or priests of old.  I share that scepticism.  A dozen people picked at random on the street are at least as likely to offer sensible views on moral and political matters as a cross-section of the intelligentsia.  But I would go further.  One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity is - beware intellectuals.  Not merely should they be kept well away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice.  Beware committees, conferences and leagues of intellectuals.  Distrust public statements issued from their serried ranks.  Discount their verdicts on political leaders and important events.  For intellectuals, far from being highly individualistic and non-conformist people, follow certain regular patterns of behaviour.  Taken as a group, they are often ultra-conformist within the circles formed by those whose approval they seek and value.  That is what makes them, en masse, so dangerous, for it enables them to create climates of opinion and prevailing orthodoxies, which themselves often generate irrational and destructive courses of action.  Above all, we must at all times remember what intellectuals habitually forget:  that people matter more than concepts and must come first.  The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas." - Dr. Paul Johnson: "Intellectuals", Pg. 342
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Manch on August 11, 2008, 11:07:41 PM
Poll doesn't work - too extreme of the range. With all his shortcomings, I like him. But what if I didn't? I wouldn't Hate him. So, what should I choose in the options you've offered?
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: P J C on August 11, 2008, 11:09:49 PM
I am going top stay neutral on this one, C.F.
Title: Re: Michael Faggot poll
Post by: briann on August 12, 2008, 12:54:33 AM
Yes, he flip flops.. but he can be very informative and very entertaining. I've learned many things (especially about history) by listening to his show, so I can't totally knock him. But yes, the flip flopping can be unbearable..

Thats true.  He does a great job teaching history.. and he makes it entertaining.  I wish he was my history Prof.  (Mine were all wacko Libs).
Honestly... I try to teach my son history in a very similar way.


Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: RanterMaximus on August 12, 2008, 01:47:11 AM
Love him or hate him, Savage should cut Chaim a percentage of what he makes.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: AsheDina on August 12, 2008, 07:50:08 AM
Aside from his flip flopping or his butt licking of any "Palestinian" that happens to call in, I feel Savage is about 80% spot on most of the time.  He's the best that's out there.  Sometimes I have to turn him off because he gets so infuriating on certain subjects.  I disagree with him that "All Religions lead to G-d."  I disagree with him entirely concerning the Middle East, Israel and Mohammadans.  I disagree on his embracement of "Evolution".  I disagree with him on when he brags about him having a real PhD.  Most of the people that are actively distroying America hold the exact same PhD's. 

I think Dr. Paul Johnson summed it up nicely within his fabulous book "Intellectuals":

"But I think I detect today a certain public scepticism when intellectuals stand up to preach to us, a growing tendency among ordinary people to dispute the right of academics, writers and philosophers, eminent though they may be, to tell us how to behave and conduct our affairs.  The belief seems to be spreading that intellectuals are no wiser as mentors, or worthier as exemplars, than the witch doctors or priests of old.  I share that scepticism.  A dozen people picked at random on the street are at least as likely to offer sensible views on moral and political matters as a cross-section of the intelligentsia.  But I would go further.  One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity is - beware intellectuals.  Not merely should they be kept well away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice.  Beware committees, conferences and leagues of intellectuals.  Distrust public statements issued from their serried ranks.  Discount their verdicts on political leaders and important events.  For intellectuals, far from being highly individualistic and non-conformist people, follow certain regular patterns of behaviour.  Taken as a group, they are often ultra-conformist within the circles formed by those whose approval they seek and value.  That is what makes them, en masse, so dangerous, for it enables them to create climates of opinion and prevailing orthodoxies, which themselves often generate irrational and destructive courses of action.  Above all, we must at all times remember what intellectuals habitually forget:  that people matter more than concepts and must come first.  The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas." - Dr. Paul Johnson: "Intellectuals", Pg. 342

  Agree with you MarZutra, he is ON the $$ most of the time.
****

  This thread & poll was open to AGITATE people IS ALL.  And is CERTAIN to make our new friend Camera REAL welcome. >:(
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 12, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
Aside from his flip flopping or his butt licking of any "Palestinian" that happens to call in, I feel Savage is about 80% spot on most of the time.  He's the best that's out there.  Sometimes I have to turn him off because he gets so infuriating on certain subjects.  I disagree with him that "All Religions lead to G-d."  I disagree with him entirely concerning the Middle East, Israel and Mohammadans.  I disagree on his embracement of "Evolution".  I disagree with him on when he brags about him having a real PhD.  Most of the people that are actively distroying America hold the exact same PhD's. 

I think Dr. Paul Johnson summed it up nicely within his fabulous book "Intellectuals":

"But I think I detect today a certain public scepticism when intellectuals stand up to preach to us, a growing tendency among ordinary people to dispute the right of academics, writers and philosophers, eminent though they may be, to tell us how to behave and conduct our affairs.  The belief seems to be spreading that intellectuals are no wiser as mentors, or worthier as exemplars, than the witch doctors or priests of old.  I share that scepticism.  A dozen people picked at random on the street are at least as likely to offer sensible views on moral and political matters as a cross-section of the intelligentsia.  But I would go further.  One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity is - beware intellectuals.  Not merely should they be kept well away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice.  Beware committees, conferences and leagues of intellectuals.  Distrust public statements issued from their serried ranks.  Discount their verdicts on political leaders and important events.  For intellectuals, far from being highly individualistic and non-conformist people, follow certain regular patterns of behaviour.  Taken as a group, they are often ultra-conformist within the circles formed by those whose approval they seek and value.  That is what makes them, en masse, so dangerous, for it enables them to create climates of opinion and prevailing orthodoxies, which themselves often generate irrational and destructive courses of action.  Above all, we must at all times remember what intellectuals habitually forget:  that people matter more than concepts and must come first.  The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas." - Dr. Paul Johnson: "Intellectuals", Pg. 342

  Agree with you MarZutra, he is ON the $$ most of the time.
****

  This thread & poll was open to AGITATE people IS ALL.  And is CERTAIN to make our new friend Camera REAL welcome. >:(

Don't worry about it Paulette. :P
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: P J C on August 12, 2008, 02:38:16 PM
Aside from his flip flopping or his butt licking of any "Palestinian" that happens to call in, I feel Savage is about 80% spot on most of the time.  He's the best that's out there.  Sometimes I have to turn him off because he gets so infuriating on certain subjects.  I disagree with him that "All Religions lead to G-d."  I disagree with him entirely concerning the Middle East, Israel and Mohammadans.  I disagree on his embracement of "Evolution".  I disagree with him on when he brags about him having a real PhD.  Most of the people that are actively distroying America hold the exact same PhD's. 

I think Dr. Paul Johnson summed it up nicely within his fabulous book "Intellectuals":

"But I think I detect today a certain public scepticism when intellectuals stand up to preach to us, a growing tendency among ordinary people to dispute the right of academics, writers and philosophers, eminent though they may be, to tell us how to behave and conduct our affairs.  The belief seems to be spreading that intellectuals are no wiser as mentors, or worthier as exemplars, than the witch doctors or priests of old.  I share that scepticism.  A dozen people picked at random on the street are at least as likely to offer sensible views on moral and political matters as a cross-section of the intelligentsia.  But I would go further.  One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity is - beware intellectuals.  Not merely should they be kept well away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice.  Beware committees, conferences and leagues of intellectuals.  Distrust public statements issued from their serried ranks.  Discount their verdicts on political leaders and important events.  For intellectuals, far from being highly individualistic and non-conformist people, follow certain regular patterns of behaviour.  Taken as a group, they are often ultra-conformist within the circles formed by those whose approval they seek and value.  That is what makes them, en masse, so dangerous, for it enables them to create climates of opinion and prevailing orthodoxies, which themselves often generate irrational and destructive courses of action.  Above all, we must at all times remember what intellectuals habitually forget:  that people matter more than concepts and must come first.  The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas." - Dr. Paul Johnson: "Intellectuals", Pg. 342

  Agree with you MarZutra, he is ON the $$ most of the time.
****

  This thread & poll was open to AGITATE people IS ALL.  And is CERTAIN to make our new friend Camera REAL welcome. >:(

Don't worry about it Paulette. :P
Michael Savage has done nothing to me. Personally, I just don't listen to him. RUSH LIMBAUGH IS HOW I HAVE MY RADIO TURNED TO!!
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: MarZutra on August 12, 2008, 02:49:05 PM
I must say that I like Savage much better than Rush and Hannity as they are both Establisment figures and only ape the party lines.  At least Savage brings to the table, most of the time, education and knowledge not simply playing follow their leader...  Obviously my aforementioned position is applicable as well... :)
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Shlomo on August 12, 2008, 03:43:26 PM
You might not be aware of this but Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict and hypocrite, has some HORRIBLE ideologies.

For example, he proclaims how great these multinational corporations are. When the flooding happened in Louisiana, he stated that Walmart (one of the worst violators of illegal immigration and supporters of homosexual rights mind you) should have taken over in place of the government and then everything would have been wonderful. I couldn't even believe it. I heard it with my own ears. And he even went on to explain further and this went on for about a half hour.

He thinks multinational conglomerates should actually take the place of our government. This is as evil as it gets. You can just imagine what would happen if all these huge world-wide monopolies were completely in charge. Rush is a sold out traitor and a despicable excuse for a human being. I could go on. Rush is a classic example of a sold-out fake conservative.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: muman613 on August 12, 2008, 03:44:25 PM
You might not be aware of this but Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict and hypocrite, has some HORRIBLE ideologies.

For example, he proclaims how great these multinational corporations are. When the flooding happened in Louisiana, he stated that Walmart (one of the worst violators of illegal immigration and supporters of homosexual rights mind you) should have taken over in place of the government and then everything would have been wonderful. I couldn't even believe it. I heard it with my own ears. And he even went on to explain further and this went on for about a half hour.

He thinks multinational conglomerates should actually take the place of our government. This is as evil as it gets. You can just imagine what would happen if all these huge world-wide monopolies were completely in charge. Rush is a sold out traitor and a despicable excuse for a human being. I haven't listened to him since.

Shlomo,

I should remind you that without multinational corporations we would not have the computers were are using, the video and audio equipment we enjoy. I have worked for several multinational corporations and we have created some of the most advanced technology in the world. I dont hate multinational corporations and I think they have done much good in this world.

Having said this, I dont imply that there should be political power in the multinational corporation. They should be subject to the same rules as any company in the host country.

muman613
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 12, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
You might not be aware of this but Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict and hypocrite, has some HORRIBLE ideologies.

For example, he proclaims how great these multinational corporations are. When the flooding happened in Louisiana, he stated that Walmart (one of the worst violators of illegal immigration and supporters of homosexual rights mind you) should have taken over in place of the government and then everything would have been wonderful. I couldn't even believe it. I heard it with my own ears. And he even went on to explain further and this went on for about a half hour.

He thinks multinational conglomerates should actually take the place of our government. This is as evil as it gets. You can just imagine what would happen if all these huge world-wide monopolies were completely in charge. Rush is a sold out traitor and a despicable excuse for a human being. I could go on. Rush is a classic example of a sold-out fake conservative.

Shlomo,

Rush Limbaugh also supported the takeover of our port security by Dubai Ports World, which is controlled by Sheikh Mohammed of the UAE. 
Michael Savage was the most outspoken person against the deal and urged his audience to call congress to stop it.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Shlomo on August 12, 2008, 04:12:55 PM
muman613,

Multinational corporations are sick machines that care nothing about Torah, morals, values, ethics, or sanity. Part of the reason we are having the massive problems right now with all the "New World Order" garbage is primarily because of multinational corporations. A lot of the problems we are facing today with the oil (and leading onto the the entire middle east) is because of multinational corporations. Why would these huge oil conglomerates care about islam?

They skirt the law, find no value in human life, and kill any competition (capitalism) before it even has a chance. They make plans to turn this country into a third world banana republic and get around slavery laws by going to other countries like Mexico, China, or India. They get around tax laws and have no problem letting thousands of people go only days before their retirement. You just can't find a long term job with this mess anymore.

Chaim has stated repeatedly that multinational corporations are huge problem and seek to destroy this country. They don't have any loyalties - except to their pockets. They would love to see America fall... because that would raise revenues and provide cheap labor. These entities have almost no responsibility but have the rights of a human being under our law.

All the technology you talk about goes almost nowhere. We are behind 14 years on our current cell phone technology and a minimum of 30 years on our phone service. Software is getting worse and new version actually have features removed to reduce phone support calls - which can never be handled even after you wait for 2 hours once your hit 2 for English. Vista is Microsoft's new answer to software and just recently the government came down on ram chip corporations for illegal price fixing. Innovation has been stifled because competition is stifled. Where's all this technology for alternative fuel? Oh ya... they either got bought out, sued, or worse because their solution would have caused competition and innovation thus touching profit margins.

I should find some of Chaim's archived audio on this topic. Chaim is so articulate and says it 10x better than I ever could.

camerakid400, you are absolutely right and 100% correct.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 12, 2008, 04:12:59 PM
You might not be aware of this but Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict and hypocrite, has some HORRIBLE ideologies.

For example, he proclaims how great these multinational corporations are. When the flooding happened in Louisiana, he stated that Walmart (one of the worst violators of illegal immigration and supporters of homosexual rights mind you) should have taken over in place of the government and then everything would have been wonderful. I couldn't even believe it. I heard it with my own ears. And he even went on to explain further and this went on for about a half hour.

He thinks multinational conglomerates should actually take the place of our government. This is as evil as it gets. You can just imagine what would happen if all these huge world-wide monopolies were completely in charge. Rush is a sold out traitor and a despicable excuse for a human being. I could go on. Rush is a classic example of a sold-out fake conservative.
I agree that Rush is terrible. He is constantly singing the praises of big business, especially Big Oil. I am sure that he is paid to do so. All of the Republican Party is just like that pig and so are all the other conservafrauds such as Coulter, Hannity, etc.

But Michael Sewage (aka Michael Wiener, Michael Faggot) is worse than them because he is a self-hating Jew who stabs fellow Jews in the back for ratings. He claims that most Muslims are good people and that Israel commits atrocities. For that I must say yimach schmo to that animal.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 12, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
Have to agree with Shlomo here. Muman, I think you have too much of a tendency to knee-jerk defend the Republican mainstream, like when you were saying that Valerie Plame deserved to be outed by Scooter Libby and Bob Novak. Multinational corporations are evil personified. They control our government, set our foreign policies, and enslave billions of people. Granted--Muman might have a point that MNCs have created much of the technologies we have, but at what cost? Do we need to have a technocratic bureaucracy of a world? How have computers, cars, cellphones etc. really improved our quality of life in the long run? Haven't they reduced our freedom more than anything else? Is our quality of life and real happiness any better than it was 100 years ago?
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 12, 2008, 04:30:54 PM
You might not be aware of this but Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict and hypocrite, has some HORRIBLE ideologies.

For example, he proclaims how great these multinational corporations are. When the flooding happened in Louisiana, he stated that Walmart (one of the worst violators of illegal immigration and supporters of homosexual rights mind you) should have taken over in place of the government and then everything would have been wonderful. I couldn't even believe it. I heard it with my own ears. And he even went on to explain further and this went on for about a half hour.

He thinks multinational conglomerates should actually take the place of our government. This is as evil as it gets. You can just imagine what would happen if all these huge world-wide monopolies were completely in charge. Rush is a sold out traitor and a despicable excuse for a human being. I could go on. Rush is a classic example of a sold-out fake conservative.
I agree that Rush is terrible. He is constantly singing the praises of big business, especially Big Oil. I am sure that he is paid to do so. All of the Republican Party is just like that pig and so are all the other conservafrauds such as Coulter, Hannity, etc.

But Michael Sewage (aka Michael Wiener, Michael Faggot) is worse than them because he is a self-hating Jew who stabs fellow Jews in the back for ratings. He claims that most Muslims are good people and that Israel commits atrocities. For that I must say yimach schmo to that animal.

Mr. C.F.,

I hate to keep talking about this issue but I would like to correct some of your misinformation.
I have found absolutely no evidence that Savage has ever criticized Israel for atrocities.
In 2006, during the lebanon war, savage said :
 Israel must ensure "nothing is left living in Southern Lebanon" and must "free[ ] itself of the men ... act[ing] like Holocaust Jews hiding in the sewer"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200607310004 [liberal web site]


Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 12, 2008, 04:45:33 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668920/posts
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: muman613 on August 12, 2008, 05:07:50 PM
muman613,

Multinational corporations are sick machines that care nothing about Torah, morals, values, ethics, or sanity. Part of the reason we are having the massive problems right now with all the "New World Order" garbage is primarily because of multinational corporations. A lot of the problems we are facing today with the oil (and leading onto the the entire middle east) is because of multinational corporations. Why would these huge oil conglomerates care about islam?

They skirt the law, find no value in human life, and kill any competition (capitalism) before it even has a chance. They make plans to turn this country into a third world banana republic and get around slavery laws by going to other countries like Mexico, China, or India. They get around tax laws and have no problem letting thousands of people go only days before their retirement. You just can't find a long term job with this mess anymore.

Chaim has stated repeatedly that multinational corporations are huge problem and seek to destroy this country. They don't have any loyalties - except to their pockets. They would love to see America fall... because that would raise revenues and provide cheap labor. These entities have almost no responsibility but have the rights of a human being under our law.

All the technology you talk about goes almost nowhere. We are behind 14 years on our current cell phone technology and a minimum of 30 years on our phone service. Software is getting worse and new version actually have features removed to reduce phone support calls - which can never be handled even after you wait for 2 hours once your hit 2 for English. Vista is Microsoft's new answer to software and just recently the government came down on ram chip corporations for illegal price fixing. Innovation has been stifled because competition is stifled. Where's all this technology for alternative fuel? Oh ya... they either got bought out, sued, or worse because their solution would have caused competition and innovation thus touching profit margins.

I should find some of Chaim's archived audio on this topic. Chaim is so articulate and says it 10x better than I ever could.

camerakid400, you are absolutely right and 100% correct.

Shlomo,

You make some good points. But I am speaking only from my personal experience. I have been paid very well, have been treated with respect, been given religious freedom {to take off Yom Tovim and wearing TzitTzits and kippah}, and my companies stock is still hot in this down market.

I am willing to admit there are negatives. I too am against the Walmartization of this country. But CAPITALISM is not perfect. There was a rule "He who has the gold, makes the rules". I know this is not the Jewish wisdom, but it is the wisdom of the west. I too long for a life of Torah but I think till Hashem sends our Moshiach, we will struggle in this world. I have been VERY VERY fortunate and I count every blessing as a gift from Hashem. I started in Computer repair and programming at the age of 14. I have skills which were given to me for a reason. I will not be an ingrate and not acknowledge that whatever I have endeavored to do I have accomplished.

So I will agree with you on some issues... But I will not condemn all multinational corporations. I live in an imperfect world and work as best as I can with the circumstances which come my way...

muman613

PS: And I can take the good fortune which comes my way and contribute it to the causes which help Israel and the Jewish nation.

Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 12, 2008, 05:09:07 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668920/posts

The person who posted that information was banned at FR.  It dates to 12 days before Savage's comments that Media Matters has recorded on tape at the link I provided.  It also does not correspond to any comments I have ever heard Savage make on Israel. 
In addition, Savage has a statement on Israel on the website of the Paul Revere Society here:
http://www.olsenclan.com/clients/savage/prs_mission.shtml
The Paul Revere society was a conservative organization founded by Savage in 1995, and it has been defunct since 2003 or so.

Mr. CF, you chose one highly suspicious comment at FR posted with no context, transcript, or audio evidence to come to the conclusion that Savage doesn't support Israel.  You should listen to Savage and make up your own mind on weather or not he supports Israel.  Rabbi Yosef Langer in San Fransisco also made comments praising Savage on Israel in 2007. http://www.chabad.com/site/c.eeJNIWOzErH/b.1986725/apps/nl/content3.asp?content_id=%7BEA1D39DD-CBC2-4B60-BA2A-D505C0433796%7D&notoc=1
“Michael’s voice of advocacy on behalf of Israel, is unparalleled,” says Rabbi Langer.  “He is also known to plant a ‘smooch’ on the mezuzah affixed to the doorpost of his many homes.”
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: AsheDina on August 12, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
  I believe that Muman is doing his American Civil duty. It is highly UNETHICAL and downright seditious to talk about a PRES while we are still in hostile territory. Of course some of us are just old-fashioned. I am- it was AGAINST the rule of my family to talk about Leaders while at war- I will stick to this- if that muZ beast gets in there, though, ALL BETS ARE OFF.

  I AGREE Camerakid- but the fact still is, that Savage DOES take lines, he HATES this himself, so he should not do it.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: MarZutra on August 12, 2008, 10:27:23 PM
It is my opinion that the multi-national corporations are, in most cases bad for ones nation.  Since the vast majority of new drugs, technology, inventions etc. etc. are made either in Israel or the West, the West is really not benefitting from them in that they are not giving us things we otherwise wouldn't have.  I am of the opinion that in most industries, the only real benefit for the multi-national corporations is to exploit the dictatorial developing, communist Turd world exploiting the Marxist schema of "Free Trade" to bolster massive profit margins that they'd otherwise for-go should they remained "national".  Especially the manufacturing.  It is almost the reality that these massive companies exploit ever "globalist" or marxist platform towards expanding their bottom line.  No loyalty whatsoever....  Like George Soros or Rupert Murdoch...

Most are invented in the West and manufactured off shore....  I think they are actually killing our economy and corrupting the political situations in any of their foreign countries they operate like the foreign held corporations here screwing with our political system solely for their benefits...

A game of power.  Money is power.  And sadly power is money.... ;)
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on August 12, 2008, 11:27:14 PM
Multinational companies don't necessarily have to be bad. In many instances they develop and deliver essential products and services and provide employment for vast numbers of people. It's easy to lose sight of this.

However, it's equally true that more often than not, the primary consideration of these corporations is to make more and more money and increase profits. Far too frequently, the greater long term good of the societies and nations the multinationals operate in, is sacrificed or takes only secondary consideration to the short term corporate pursuit of increasing revenues and profits.

What's the answer to this dilemma ? I honestly don't know. I don't think nationalizing vital interests or having more governmental interdiction into corporate affairs is the cure all. At the same time the laisez faire policy apparently in effect when large corporate interests conflict with national interests seemingly isn't working either. The question becomes how can these multinationals be regulated in a way that best serves all concerned. There is no easy answer.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: muman613 on August 13, 2008, 02:30:05 AM
Multinational companies don't necessarily have to be bad. In many instances they develop and deliver essential products and services and provide employment for vast numbers of people. It's easy to lose sight of this.

However, it's equally true that more often than not, the primary consideration of these corporations is to make more and more money and increase profits. Far too frequently, the greater long term good of the societies and nations the multinationals operate in, is sacrificed or takes only secondary consideration to the short term corporate pursuit of increasing revenues and profits.

What's the answer to this dilemma ? I honestly don't know. I don't think nationalizing vital interests or having more governmental interdiction into corporate affairs is the cure all. At the same time the laisez faire policy apparently in effect when large corporate interests conflict with national interests seemingly isn't working either. The question becomes how can these multinationals be regulated in a way that best serves all concerned. There is no easy answer.

MuckDeFuslims,

Very good analysis. It echos my feelings exactly. I am not sure if I would have been able to articulate it as well as you did...

 O0

muman613
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: MarZutra on August 13, 2008, 09:17:57 AM
Ending "Free Trade" and bringing back the Trade Tariffs would be one answer.  People say that it is "protectionism", obviously another leftist molested term.  The fact is business is war and in a fight/war one obviously protects themselves....

I'd love to see one independant study comparing America pre-and post "Free Trade".  I think the reality speaks for itself. 

I debated my politician over this matter once. I simply asked him why is it that prior to free trade, (the so-called "Women's Rights" movement) there could be a single income raising 4 children, with a decent home and few cars with savings left over?  Today with two incomes, if the family is still together and not paying for two homes/appartments, one car (or the bus) cannot raise one child properly nor have any savings?

The fact of the matter is that prior to about 1980-88, the West quickly changed from nations with cultures, faith, productivity, efficiency and individualism to "globalism", "Socialism" and poverty...

2 cents from Ol-MarZutra
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: Scriabin on August 13, 2008, 01:36:29 PM
I agree that Rush is terrible. He is constantly singing the praises of big business, especially Big Oil. I am sure that he is paid to do so. All of the Republican Party is just like that pig and so are all the other conservafrauds such as Coulter, Hannity, etc.

But Michael Sewage (aka Michael Wiener, Michael Faggot) is worse than them because he is a self-hating Jew who stabs fellow Jews in the back for ratings. He claims that most Muslims are good people and that Israel commits atrocities. For that I must say yimach schmo to that animal.

Rush is the only talk show host who addresses Feminism.

He is therefore the only mainstream host who attempts to tell it like it is.
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: MarZutra on August 13, 2008, 05:58:24 PM
I've heard Savage slam feminism many times brother.  I just disagree with him on the "Palestinians", Islam, "Evolution" and the worth of a PhD.   :)
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: RanterMaximus on August 13, 2008, 06:04:07 PM
What a shock.  I just tuned on to Savage and he's off tonight. 
Title: Re: Michael WIENER poll
Post by: SerbChicago on August 13, 2008, 06:55:43 PM
Hi IS the best!