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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: SerbChicago on August 15, 2008, 10:00:57 AM
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Because i see how fast you have made up your mind about Georgia conflict it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?How long it took you to change you mind?Who did it(Michael Savage,Mr.Chain...)?Point of my questions is not to 'question your loyalty to Serbs' it's to show you what happens when you rush to things before you know all facts!!!!!How many of you have had think that we are Russian communist evil empire friend?Be honest!There is no point of lieing!You will just lie to your self if you do.
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Let me get this straight. You want us to support a country that is
1. Spreading Communism
2. Conquering states for ego purposes
3. Funding terrorist nazi Iran's nuclear program that may well result in a nuclear holocaust of our ONLY great allie, the jews
That is non-sense!!!!
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Let me get this straight. You want us to support a country that is
1. Spreading Communism
2. Conquering states for ego purposes
3. Funding terrorist nazi Iran's nuclear program that may well result in a nuclear holocaust of our ONLY great allie, the jews
That is non-sense!!!!
This is not the question!And if you really want to know if they live Russia alone there wouldn't be any problems.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
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Because i see how fast you have made up your mind about Georgia conflict it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?How long it took you to change you mind?Who did it(Michael Savage,Mr.Chain...)?Point of my questions is not to 'question your loyalty to Serbs' it's to show you what happens when you rush to things before you know all facts!!!!!How many of you have had think that we are Russian communist evil empire friend?Be honest!There is no point of lieing!You will just lie to your self if you do.
Quote Wrom: QHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCL
If you ask me LONG LIVE RUSSIA!
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Sounds pretty friendly to me. I guess the Russians are your new friends.
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You guys, please don't fight over this.
Chaim said in a past Ask JTF show that he has no problem with Serbs and Russia being allies.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
What Georgia did was not wrong. Quite frankly, the United States should have did the same thing when the Russians did it to us. And yes they did. Russia should be the one to be reprimanded, not Georgia.
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Because i see how fast you have made up your mind about Georgia conflict it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?How long it took you to change you mind?Who did it(Michael Savage,Mr.Chain...)?Point of my questions is not to 'question your loyalty to Serbs' it's to show you what happens when you rush to things before you know all facts!!!!!How many of you have had think that we are Russian communist evil empire friend?Be honest!There is no point of lieing!You will just lie to your self if you do.
Quote Wrom: QHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCL
If you ask me LONG LIVE RUSSIA!
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Sounds pretty friendly to me. I guess the Russians are your new friends.
Sorry i do support them in this issue.
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I agree to disagree with you SerbChicago.
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I agree to disagree with you SerbChicago.
Ok thank you.
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I didn't like it when it when the Serbs were being bombed and I hadn't found JTF yet.
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You guys, please don't fight over this.
Chaim said in a past Ask JTF show that he has no problem with Serbs and Russia being allies.
Thank you Mr.Chaim!He knows history of our people.But if it ever come between Russia and Israel,all do it would be unlikely and very hard for me,i would took Israeli gun!
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I didn't like it when it when the Serbs were being bombed and I hadn't found JTF yet.
Ok thank you.
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Because i see how fast you have made up your mind about Georgia conflict it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?How long it took you to change you mind?Who did it(Michael Savage,Mr.Chain...)?Point of my questions is not to 'question your loyalty to Serbs' it's to show you what happens when you rush to things before you know all facts!!!!!How many of you have had think that we are Russian communist evil empire friend?Be honest!There is no point of lieing!You will just lie to your self if you do.
Quote Wrom: QHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCL
If you ask me LONG LIVE RUSSIA!
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Sounds pretty friendly to me. I guess the Russians are your new friends.
Sorry i do support them in this issue.
It's fine that you support them on this issue. You're entitled to your opinion.
But when you post stuff like:
"Sorry but US is for CONQUEST,Russians are for revenge and respect."
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"LONG LIVE RUSSIA!"
You're going a bit overboard. Just in case you don't know this, this forum is Pro-Israel and Pro-USA. We're also Pro-Serb. However, comments accusing the USA of being out for conquest, and wishing long life to a nation that is helping Iran's nuclear efforts and has traditionally supported and armed the Arabs wishing to destroy Israel aren't going to go over too well with the majority of posters here.
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Right from the begining, without Savage or anyone else, I was appalled by the crimes that NATO committed against Serbia. I was in Canada at that time, and the media was very anti-Serb and, of course, there is no Savage or any other right wing talk show host here.
Georgia and Serbia are in exactly the same position, being bullied by two evil powers. I'll go even further, I 'll say that Russia was, in its agression against Georgia somewhat justified by the separation of Kosovo. But why act against your Christian brethren? There are no muslim scum Russia can pressure? Serbs got screwed so let the Georgians burn as well?!
Look, your feelings are the ones of loyalty and that of revenge. I understand and respect that. But, most importantly, we should act on the side of righteousness.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
Georgians are guilty? Do you know what you sound like? You remind me of the typical Muslim who blames Israel for everything.
If you do not like the US standing by Georgia....please feel free to go to Russia & take some muzzies with you!!!
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Because i see how fast you have made up your mind about Georgia conflict it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?How long it took you to change you mind?Who did it(Michael Savage,Mr.Chain...)?Point of my questions is not to 'question your loyalty to Serbs' it's to show you what happens when you rush to things before you know all facts!!!!!How many of you have had think that we are Russian communist evil empire friend?Be honest!There is no point of lieing!You will just lie to your self if you do.
I knew nothing about Serbia in the past except that Clinton sent bombing to "protect Kosovo," all I had to do was read up on it, read about the KLA and the islamic terrorism and immediately I knew who was in the wrong. Initially I read Gil-White's work, then I came to JTF and Chaim agreed with much of it, as do the JTF members here. I am quite aware of the Israeli govt and US govt treachery against the Jews in Israel, so it wasn't a big step for me to think they were at fault in bombing the Serbs or anything else they do.
Only thing is, it DOESN'T mean they are wrong in everything. One cannot assume that. One must read up on each individual case and come to a determination. Certainly tho, the US govt is not right in all of its foreign affairs. Serbia, Oslo, "roadmap" being some of the evil deeds. But one need not corner himself into an all-or-nothing position. They can be right sometimes too. America is a great country specifically because of all the times it was right. We resent how it has gone wrong in recent times. But it's not always wrong. You seem to want to push on us that US is always wrong and Russia always right. PLEASE. Get a grip on yourself. Russia is barely ever right. On their half-hearted support of Serbs they're right, but they could do way more if they really cared for Serbia. And on all else, Russia is a tyranny exporter and enemy of the Jews.
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Bottom line Serbchicago:
1. There is a cold war again between the US and Russia. Russia is using the Muslims to weaken the US. Russia ishelping Iran with making nukes. THerefore, Russia is an evil country..they are my enemy...worse than anyone else except for the Anti-Israel nations of the Muslims.
2. Georgia is irrelevant to who they are against and who they are for. Apparantly they like Israel..I like that more than Russia funding Iran. Therefore, I support Georgia hands down against Russia which can go to hell.
3. Russia is entitled to do whatever she wants to any nation she wants. I might not like what they are doing to Georgia, but if i feel they have the right to do whatever they want to Georgia, then I feel the same shoudl be true when Israel destroys her enemies when she is attacked by them. and ISrael has the right to annex anything she wants if she is attacked first. For me to whine and cry like NATO and the US, I would be a hippocrat for not whining and crying against Israel when she does what she does.
4. Russia was only on the side of the Serbs because NATO was on the side of the other republics. IT was to the US's and NATO's interest to break up Yugoslavia so that the republics of Yugoslavia and Albania wholeheartedly support NATO forces and therefore, US forces on their land to fight against Russia and prevent her expansion into the Balkans. I say that it's a shame that it worked out that way. HOwever, the US's interest isn't Judaism and Israel. The US sees the other enemy to be Russia. If it means becoming friends with Muzzies, to fight Russia, the US will do it. FOr us at JTF, the war is Jews against anti-semetism..that's basically Israel versus the whole world more or less.
5. Supporting Russia for any purpose would be a terrible mistake. I hope they get the taste of their own medicine by Muslim terrorists and watch the Muslim terrorists and Russians both kill each other much like watch the Shia and Sunii Killing each other.
6. I don't hate Russians per say...I hate Russian govt with the same passion as the Mullahs.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
Georgians are guilty? Do you know what you sound like? You remind me of the typical Muslim who blames Israel for everything.
If you do not like the US standing by Georgia....please feel free to go to Russia & take some muzzies with you!!!
You are not even worthed of my comment!YOU sound like tipical,self-hateing,low life,looser!How about that!
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
People we can all disagree on this issue but insalts on my name i will never stand.Do you agree?
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Bottom line Serbchicago:
1. There is a cold war again between the US and Russia. Russia is using the Muslims to weaken the US. Russia ishelping Iran with making nukes. THerefore, Russia is an evil country..they are my enemy...worse than anyone else except for the Anti-Israel nations of the Muslims.
2. Georgia is irrelevant to who they are against and who they are for. Apparantly they like Israel..I like that more than Russia funding Iran. Therefore, I support Georgia hands down against Russia which can go to hell.
3. Russia is entitled to do whatever she wants to any nation she wants. I might not like what they are doing to Georgia, but if i feel they have the right to do whatever they want to Georgia, then I feel the same shoudl be true when Israel destroys her enemies when she is attacked by them. and ISrael has the right to annex anything she wants if she is attacked first. For me to whine and cry like NATO and the US, I would be a hippocrat for not whining and crying against Israel when she does what she does.
4. Russia was only on the side of the Serbs because NATO was on the side of the other republics. IT was to the US's and NATO's interest to break up Yugoslavia so that the republics of Yugoslavia and Albania wholeheartedly support NATO forces and therefore, US forces on their land to fight against Russia and prevent her expansion into the Balkans. I say that it's a shame that it worked out that way. HOwever, the US's interest isn't Judaism and Israel. The US sees the other enemy to be Russia. If it means becoming friends with Muzzies, to fight Russia, the US will do it. FOr us at JTF, the war is Jews against anti-semetism..that's basically Israel versus the whole world more or less.
5. Supporting Russia for any purpose would be a terrible mistake. I hope they get the taste of their own medicine by Muslim terrorists and watch the Muslim terrorists and Russians both kill each other much like watch the Shia and Sunii Killing each other.
6. I don't hate Russians per say...I hate Russian govt with the same passion as the Mullahs.
Ok this is your opinion and i will respect it even if i don't agree with it.
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
People we can all disagree on this issue but insalts on my name i will never stand.Do you agree?
Were is he insulting you in the post??
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
People we can all disagree on this issue but insalts on my name i will never stand.Do you agree?
I thought you were a "Serb" not Russian.... ?
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
People we can all disagree on this issue but insalts on my name i will never stand.Do you agree?
Were is he insulting you in the post??
Not him i was referring for republcadox comment.I was just asking him for opinion about insults.
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
People we can all disagree on this issue but insalts on my name i will never stand.Do you agree?
I thought you were a "Serb" not Russian.... ?
Yes i am Serb but we have same origin as Russians we are 'Slavic' people like them.
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[/quote]Not him i was referring for republcadox comment.I was just asking him for opinion about insults.
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How can you be on the side of such an evil oppressive government?....and they are evil...
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
Georgians are guilty? Do you know what you sound like? You remind me of the typical Muslim who blames Israel for everything.
If you do not like the US standing by Georgia....please feel free to go to Russia & take some muzzies with you!!!
One more thing,i lost 1992 in Bosnia grandfather by muslim scum.The people who killed his family in ww2 killed him also and you to tell me that i remind you of typical Muslim and to go to Russia if i don't agree with YOU is out of line!That is the reason why people hate republicans just because of rhetoric like yours!You better watch what comes out of your mouth lady because not only you don't know me but you don't know what Muslims are needle to say what Jew is. I have suffered same in my country as Jew are in there's.This is all sign of your intelligence so i will just be better man and back off.Don't talk to me,don't even replay to my posts.
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Not him i was referring for republcadox comment.I was just asking him for opinion about insults.
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How can you be on the side of such an evil oppressive government?....and they are evil...
[/quote]Because you have to not see through American eyes,you have to see trough Russians too so you can understand where they coming from.I am not the only one in the media who see this like i do,Michael Savage then George Freidman(who interview i have posted)and the other people.
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
That's not fair and is not accurate.
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Russia is just as bad as Nazi Germany...killing even more civilians and Jews..and they don't regret it til this day. THE IDIOTS WORSHIPPED A GEORGIAN---->STALIN
THAT'S HOW STUPID AND EVIL THEY ARE....OR THEIR PARENTS ARE...
That's not fair and is not accurate.
The trap most people fall into today when they think of Russia is the forget that Russia was once the USSR. Russia may be helping Serbia but like my grandmother use to say " Beware when Satan pats you on the back because he is after your soul" The Russian government is evil and I also believe that that are as bad if not even worse than Nazi Germany. They have killed and abused more people then the world could ever know. The world knows only a fraction of what really happens to people who disagree with the Russian government but that fraction is enough to give the outside world a very good picture of what they are dealing with. Serbia is a country that is in need of help and I guess you take help from where it comes however help from Russia is like taking on a business partner who insists on having 51% of the business. Russia is clearly stirring the pot when it comes to many of the worlds problems today. Their is no way any thinking American can look at Russia with anything but distrust and disdain.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
Georgians are guilty? Do you know what you sound like? You remind me of the typical Muslim who blames Israel for everything.
If you do not like the US standing by Georgia....please feel free to go to Russia & take some muzzies with you!!!
Oi this is rude, there are Serbs and Russians in the U.S., there are Americans and Jews in Russia, there are Russians in Serbia and Serbs in Russia, we shouldn't resort to expelling each other's populations out, it's really evil what you're saying.
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Hi Serb...
Russia WILL take over EVERY single small country there, Russians are MEAN. VICIOUS. NASTY. BRUTAL. You know it, I know it.
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Hi Serb...
Russia WILL take over EVERY single small country there, Russians are MEAN. VICIOUS. NASTY. BRUTAL. You know it, I know it.
That's how the Soviet regime talked about Americans and the USA.
Sounds very familiar.
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Just to make my self clear i don't support everything that Russia do but in this YES!Georgians are guilty for what have happened to them,they have started it first and they are putting US in very tricky position.Is it better to have good Russians relashionship or recless allie?
Georgians are guilty? Do you know what you sound like? You remind me of the typical Muslim who blames Israel for everything.
If you do not like the US standing by Georgia....please feel free to go to Russia & take some muzzies with you!!!
Oi this is rude, there are Serbs and Russians in the U.S., there are Americans and Jews in Russia, there are Russians in Serbia and Serbs in Russia, we shouldn't resort to expelling each other's populations out, it's really evil what you're saying.
Thank you!
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it is trigger me to know how many of our JTF members step on the side of NATO and US in bombing of us Serbs?
Serb, every single one of us stands with the Serbs against the Muslim Nazis and the Croat non-Muslim Nazis. That has never, ever been in doubt and from the very beginning I knew that U.S. policy towards the Serbs was horribly wrong, even though I was still a kid in high school.
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That's how the Soviet regime talked about Americans and the USA.
Sounds very familiar.
Please tell me that you are not saying you support the Soviet Union.
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That's how the Soviet regime talked about Americans and the USA.
Sounds very familiar.
Please tell me that you are not saying you support the Soviet Union.
No actually I detest the USSR, the only people that benefited from the existence of the USSR were the turks. Got all the territory from Lenin/Stalin in the beginning and then later America armed them to their teeth because they were bordering the evil empire.
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If you can acknowledge that Soviet Russia benefited the Turks enormously, then why do you still support Russia?
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If you can acknowledge that Soviet Russia benefited the Turks enormously, then why do you still support Russia?
Have you seen Armenia on the map? We border Turkey, Azerbaijan Georgia and Iran.
Our alliance with Russia is essential for our survival, if Azeris attack Artsakh our army can defeat them BUT if Turkey opens the second front that will be ugly. So there's a military agreement with Russia to help us protect the border with Turkey and Iran so we can focus on Azerbaijan, a country that has 3 times the population of Armenia and their oil revenues allow them to buy newer weapons from America and Israel. We focus more on defense. We need a pro-Russian Georgia because 2 of our borders are already closed.
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Not him i was referring for republcadox comment.I was just asking him for opinion about insults.
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How can you be on the side of such an evil oppressive government?....and they are evil...
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I agree with you. I am skeptical when anyone bashes the US or Israel or any small democratic Country trying to get established.
Russia supports Iran ....knowing Iran wants to erase the US and Israel off the map. I see that as evil.
Shalom from Dox
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If you can acknowledge that Soviet Russia benefited the Turks enormously, then why do you still support Russia?
Have you seen Armenia on the map? We border Turkey, Azerbaijan Georgia and Iran.
Our alliance with Russia is essential for our survival, if Azeris attack Artsakh our army can defeat them BUT if Turkey opens the second front that will be ugly. So there's a military agreement with Russia to help us protect the border with Turkey and Iran so we can focus on Azerbaijan, a country that has 3 times the population of Armenia and their oil revenues allow them to buy newer weapons from America and Israel. We focus more on defense. We need a pro-Russian Georgia because 2 of our borders are already closed.
So you guys are in big trouble?!I hope everything works fine with you all.
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If you can acknowledge that Soviet Russia benefited the Turks enormously, then why do you still support Russia?
Have you seen Armenia on the map? We border Turkey, Azerbaijan Georgia and Iran.
Our alliance with Russia is essential for our survival, if Azeris attack Artsakh our army can defeat them BUT if Turkey opens the second front that will be ugly. So there's a military agreement with Russia to help us protect the border with Turkey and Iran so we can focus on Azerbaijan, a country that has 3 times the population of Armenia and their oil revenues allow them to buy newer weapons from America and Israel. We focus more on defense. We need a pro-Russian Georgia because 2 of our borders are already closed.
So you guys are in big trouble?!I hope everything works fine with you all.
Victory to Serbia i Armenia. O0 O0 O0