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Title: was about moshe rabbeinu and satmar..
Post by: q_q_ on August 17, 2008, 12:45:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwbWv2oiuAs
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 17, 2008, 01:02:22 PM
The Satmars are nuts. :D
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on August 17, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
Satmer my @$$, Moshe Alav Hashalom was a Levi, which community has the largest percentage wise of Leviim and Kohanim? The Bukharians- so their you go, Moshe was Bukharian.
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: q_q_ on August 17, 2008, 03:35:20 PM
Satmer my @$$, Moshe Alav Hashalom was a Levi, which community has the largest percentage wise of Leviim and Kohanim? The Bukharians- so their you go, Moshe was Bukharian.

in a satmar hat

But your logic is too blatantly flawed..   His logic was good, and the wrong assumption at the beginning was funny. Your logic is just flawed.  And that's not funny. The probability of a randomly picked levi being bukharian is very low.  Increased by the proportion of leviim amongst bukharians, but still very very low.  And probably an almost equal chance of being ashkenazi as being Sefaradi, assuming similar proportions of leviim and kohanim.
But besides that.. It's too blatantly flawed to say Most A are B, and then say so there you go, 'a' is a B. It's just too blatantly not a proof. At least with that guy's thing people would have to think about it!

Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2008, 11:51:05 AM
I request that the title of this thread be edited.   I am sick of seeing it ("Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar") everytime I click on the forum!    Or at least insert "(joke)"  or how bout Proof that moshe rabbeinu was [not] a satmar
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: q_q_ on August 19, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
I request that the title of this thread be edited.   I am sick of seeing it ("Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar") everytime I click on the forum!    Or at least insert "(joke)"  or how bout Proof that moshe rabbeinu was [not] a satmar

it is so obviously a joke that it's even implicit in the title.  It's suprising how many people left comments on the video showing that they thought it was serious.

I am pleasantly suprised that nobody here has been thick enough to think it was serious..

Don't show yourself to be silly enough that your first instinct is to take such a statement (as the title) as serious.

Nevertheless. One shouldn't be offended by the idea that the satmar may be right. (they would be offended by the idea that we are right, but that's a problem they have).  Rabbi Kahane always had the logic to say they had a torah position.





Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
I'm not offended in the slightest it's just irritating to look at.   That was what I basically said in my post.  It's annoying.    The idea that Moshe "was Satmar" or "was lubavitch" or "was" any modern day sect based on a rebbe that lived hundreds of years after Moshe, is ludicrous.  I just find the 'joke' annoying.
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2008, 01:48:15 PM
And it looks silly in our Torah forum.  It's a silly topic.
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: q_q_ on August 19, 2008, 01:53:35 PM
the funny aspect of the video clip, is not the claim that moshe rabbainu was a satmar.

Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on August 19, 2008, 02:01:09 PM
And it looks silly in our Torah forum.  It's a silly topic.

 I agree, it doesn't really belong here.
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: q_q_ on August 19, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
And it looks silly in our Torah forum.  It's a silly topic.

 I agree, it doesn't really belong here.

fair point, it prob doesn't belong here, a torah based joke. But in the General Discussion section with a majourity of gentiles, and some anti satmar idiots, the joke would be missed and ruined even more than it has been here. A torah background is required to appreciate it. It's not really for gentiles either.
Title: Re: Proof that moshe rabbeinu was a satmar
Post by: MarZutra on August 19, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
It is impossible for Moshe to have been a Satmar Belz, Bobov, Breslov, Ger, Lubavitch (Chabad), Munkacs, Puppa, Sanz (Klausenburg), Satmar, Skver, Spinka or Vizhnitz.  

There was no Hassidic movements during the times of Moshe Rabbeinu as these are all breakaway groups who followed the teachings of Rabbi Israel ben Eliezer (1698–1760), also known as the Ba'al Shem Tov: Master of the Good Name.  Each "sect" was founded their local chief Rabbi, and named after Eastern Eurpean towns to which they lived: Shtettles...

A fabulous subject was concerning their excommunication by Rabbi Eliyahu ben Shlomo Zalman; The Vilna Gaon, their reconcilliation and their combined efforts to crush Haskala, or Jewish Enlightenment....aka Deformed Judaism which was founded by Abraham Geigar and promulgated through Russia and Eastern Europe by one Dr. Lillianthal....  

2 cents from Ol-MarZutra  ;)
Title: Re: was about moshe rabbeinu and satmar.. delete!
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 22, 2008, 06:13:59 AM
Ha, if Moshe Rabbenu was a Satmar, he would've told the Jews to stay in Egypt and beg Pharoah for mercy.
Title: Re: was about moshe rabbeinu and satmar.. delete!
Post by: q_q_ on August 23, 2008, 10:06:47 PM
Ha, if Moshe Rabbenu was a Satmar, he would've told the Jews to stay in Egypt and beg Pharoah for mercy.

he'd have been buried in poland, and we'd have a perfectly transmitted tradition on precisely where, along with a custom of regular pilgrimage.
Title: Re: was about moshe rabbeinu and satmar.. delete!
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 25, 2008, 03:25:51 AM
Ha, if Moshe Rabbenu was a Satmar, he would've told the Jews to stay in Egypt and beg Pharoah for mercy.

If Moshe Rabeinu was a Satmar, then he wouldn't of begged hashem to let him into Israel.

Satmar are excuses for human beings. They are sodomite bastards whos entire existence is a giant chilul hashem.
Title: Re: was about moshe rabbeinu and satmar.. delete!
Post by: q_q_ on August 25, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
Ha, if Moshe Rabbenu was a Satmar, he would've told the Jews to stay in Egypt and beg Pharoah for mercy.

If Moshe Rabeinu was a Satmar, then he wouldn't of begged hashem to let him into Israel.

Satmar are excuses for human beings. They are sodomite bastards whos entire existence is a giant chilul hashem.

besides other comments that could be made about you and your posts.

You are violating halacha by saying such things, that is especially bad in the torah section..

Chaim has said you should not curse jews.  He doesn't even curse Yekutiel.