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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MasterWolf1 on August 17, 2008, 07:05:13 PM
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Or cancer, none died through natrual causes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZMybi4K1H8&feature=related
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I watched WWF/WWE for about 13 years. I stopped watching after the Benoit murder thing, bad taste in my mouth so to speak.
Sucked badly when Brian Pillman died, my favorite wrestler.
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Or cancer, none died through natrual causes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZMybi4K1H8&feature=related
Yes some have died of natural causes Russ Haas died because of a blood clot in the heart
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Well Candito died due to post surgery bloodclot
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Or cancer, none died through natrual causes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZMybi4K1H8&feature=related
Sad but true. Most wrestlers do die because of suicide or drug related deaths.
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Well Candito died due to post surgery bloodclot
Owen hart died in the ring
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Marianna Komlos died of breast cancer
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Well Candito died due to post surgery bloodclot
Staph infection if I recall
Anyways, anyone watching summerslam tonite? Watching it for free on paltalk.
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the last one to be documented passing is Scotty Bigalow he past last January from pain killer mixed with coke o.d.
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Bruiser Brody was murdered
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EarthQuake had cancer
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This is the truth about Owen Hart, till this day there has never been any video document I think thats the resquest of the Hart family. So if you see anyone showing a video claiming it is not true... there is only still photos of him landing available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgA-nPk2VU&feature=related
And here is the only truth available about Owen
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This is the truth about Owen Hart, till this day there has never been any video document I think thats the resquest of the Hart family. So if you see anyone showing a video claiming it is not true... there is only still photos of him landing available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgA-nPk2VU&feature=related
And here is the only truth available about Owen
There will never be a tape of what happened
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This is the truth about Owen Hart, till this day there has never been any video document I think thats the resquest of the Hart family. So if you see anyone showing a video claiming it is not true... there is only still photos of him landing available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgA-nPk2VU&feature=related
And here is the only truth available about Owen
There will never be a tape of what happened
I know, there is some noob sending out videos of some guy falling to the mat which it isn't Owen Hart yet he is claiming. There were no tables in the ring, and he didn't fall from an elevated scafold
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This is the truth about Owen Hart, till this day there has never been any video document I think thats the resquest of the Hart family. So if you see anyone showing a video claiming it is not true... there is only still photos of him landing available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgA-nPk2VU&feature=related
And here is the only truth available about Owen
There will never be a tape of what happened
I know, there is some noob sending out videos of some guy falling to the mat which it isn't Owen Hart yet he is claiming. There were no tables in the ring, and he didn't fall from an elevated scafold
the "fake" video your referring to is from XPW, that was New Jack throwing Vic Grimes off a scaffold. New Jack legitimately hated Grimes for giving him brain damage.
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This is the truth about Owen Hart, till this day there has never been any video document I think thats the resquest of the Hart family. So if you see anyone showing a video claiming it is not true... there is only still photos of him landing available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgA-nPk2VU&feature=related
And here is the only truth available about Owen
There will never be a tape of what happened
I know, there is some noob sending out videos of some guy falling to the mat which it isn't Owen Hart yet he is claiming. There were no tables in the ring, and he didn't fall from an elevated scafold
the "fake" video your referring to is from XPW, that was New Jack throwing Vic Grimes off a scaffold. New Jack legitimately hated Grimes for giving him brain damage.
New Jack is a scumbag
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But people keep showing that as Owens tragedy and it is not. Here was the only video of that night with Owen and video cameras didn't focus on the ring itself while Owen was being attendent. But you know whether you love wrestling or don't these guys do punish their bodies to entertain so many. And Vince has once a year with the USO entertainment in Iraq for soldiers.
This is the only available video camera of Owen's lastnight, by the way the name of this PPV is no longer since his death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovb2fGKwPC8&feature=related
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The PPV was Over The Edge why do you think the name is not used anymore
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Well since his death they don't use it as the name of the ppv,, would you believe next year will make 10 years already? I was shocked when I heard about Curt Henning
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But people keep showing that as Owens tragedy and it is not. Here was the only video of that night with Owen and video cameras didn't focus on the ring itself while Owen was being attendent. But you know whether you love wrestling or don't these guys do punish their bodies to entertain so many. And Vince has once a year with the USO entertainment in Iraq for soldiers.
This is the only available video camera of Owen's lastnight, by the way the name of this PPV is no longer since his death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovb2fGKwPC8&feature=related
The PPV was one of the only never offered on VHS/DVD or reaired as well.
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Well since his death they don't use it as the name of the ppv,, would you believe next year will make 10 years already? I was shocked when I heard about Curt Henning
Look at the irony of the name and what happened
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But people keep showing that as Owens tragedy and it is not. Here was the only video of that night with Owen and video cameras didn't focus on the ring itself while Owen was being attendent. But you know whether you love wrestling or don't these guys do punish their bodies to entertain so many. And Vince has once a year with the USO entertainment in Iraq for soldiers.
This is the only available video camera of Owen's lastnight, by the way the name of this PPV is no longer since his death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovb2fGKwPC8&feature=related
I taped the PPV
The PPV was one of the only never offered on VHS/DVD or reaired as well.
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I like Andre the Giant and Gorgeous George.
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I like Andre the Giant and Gorgeous George.
The man or the woman?
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The only actual documented video was the day after on Raw for his tribute. It sucks cause guys like him and Pillman and Eddie and Benoit are gone and the WWE still has Cena employed.
But never the less some say its fake for the most it is, but people really do get hurt or now with this even worst
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The only actual documented video was the day after on Raw for his tribute. It sucks cause guys like him and Pillman and Eddie and Benoit are gone and the WWE still has Cena employed.
But never the less some say its fake for the most it is, but people really do get hurt or now with this even worst
Yes Cena sucks but what does he have to do with anything
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The only actual documented video was the day after on Raw for his tribute. It sucks cause guys like him and Pillman and Eddie and Benoit are gone and the WWE still has Cena employed.
But never the less some say its fake for the most it is, but people really do get hurt or now with this even worst
It's not so much that it's fake (as people do take bumps and get hurt) but that it's scripted/predetermined. Guys like Bret Hart, Benoit, Jericho, Angle, Own hart were all great technical wrestlers.
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The only actual documented video was the day after on Raw for his tribute. It sucks cause guys like him and Pillman and Eddie and Benoit are gone and the WWE still has Cena employed.
But never the less some say its fake for the most it is, but people really do get hurt or now with this even worst
It's not so much that it's fake (as people do take bumps and get hurt) but that it's scripted/predetermined. Guys like Bret Hart, Benoit, Jericho, Angle, Own hart were all great technical wrestlers.
Three of the 5 people mentioned were trained by Stu Hart
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamoite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
The Dynamite kid is in a wheelchair because of what wrestling did to his body
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamoite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
I thought D-lo brown bouched his sit down powerbomb on droz which caused his paralysis?
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamoite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
I thought D-lo brown bouched his sit down powerbomb on droz which caused his paralysis?
Yes he did he went for a running powerbomb and he dropped Droz on his head
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamoite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
I thought D-lo brown bouched his sit down powerbomb on droz which caused his paralysis?
Yea thats the stunt that went wrong, if you ever seen a movie think it is called beyond the ring it shows the backstage and the insights what goes on. They give a performance every show but guys like Foley for example he had his body just mangled up. Tazz is now doing commintating cause his career was cut short from a severe neck injury he tried to come back but never was the same.
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This series was the Raw show day after and it is the only tribute available to the public
They even edited.
And not just deaths, if you remember a wrestler his stage name was Droz he performed a stunt and landed on his head snapping his neck and now he is in a chair for the rest of his life, same with the Dynamoite Kid.
Ironic, D.K. Davey Both Smith, Hart, Benoit all came from the Dungeon, and it is like the the luck of the Von Erichs everyone of them
here is the only one available to the public the day after Over the Edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lsOUXxvZg
I thought D-lo brown bouched his sit down powerbomb on droz which caused his paralysis?
Yea thats the stunt that went wrong, if you ever seen a movie think it is called beyond the ring it shows the backstage and the insights what goes on. They give a performance every show but guys like Foley for example he had his body just mangled up. Tazz is now doing commintating cause his career was cut short from a severe neck injury he tried to come back but never was the same.
It is called beyond the mat
Tazz keeps putting off neck surgery
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Yes! thats the title
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Yes! thats the title
Beyond the ring is a movie about a guy who wife dies and he teaches BJJ and Taekwondo
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I remember seeing beyond the mat at the theatres, my mother took us at the time and was disgusted how evil Vince Mcmahon is in real life when he had droz puke in a bucket. Mcmahon definitely isn't a moral person, and ever since he bought WCW, things have been pretty crappy.
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I remember seeing beyond the mat at the theatres, my mother took us at the time and was disgusted how evil Vince Mcmahon is in real life when he had droz puke in a bucket. Mcmahon definitely isn't a moral person, and ever since he bought WCW, things have been pretty crappy.
It has been crappy since he stop having era's in the wwe
Like the invasion
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As I said love or hate Vince, he and his family for years and years provided entertainment for example our military. And I remember the 911 tribute he made. Oh and Ric Flare was a major Huckabee supporter
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As I said love or hate Vince, he and his family for years and years provided entertainment for example our military. And I remember the 911 tribute he made. Oh and Ric Flare was a major Huckabee supporter
Yeah they preform for the troops on Christmas
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While it's true Vince Mcmahon has done some good things (especially with last wish foundation for kids with cancer), some of the things he's done are rather ....uneeded, like in his dvd he wanted to do a incest angle with his daughter where he was the father of her baby, the hot lesbian action stuff wasn't necessary and some of the gay characters (like Chuck & Billy, Rico) were just plain stupid. I did like DX though (the original)
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While it's true Vince Mcmahon has done some good things (especially with last wish foundation for kids with cancer), some of the things he's done are rather ....uneeded, like in his dvd he wanted to do a incest angle with his daughter where he was the father of her baby, the hot lesbian action stuff wasn't necessary and some of the gay characters (like Chuck & Billy, Rico) were just plain stupid. I did like DX though (the original)
HLA was great
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What does [censored] me off is he not just once but twice faked his death. The first one was exactly a week or 2 before Benoit's death which I even wrote to the WWE that it was disgusting.
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alot of the injuries are
As the million dollar man's avatar said in this game (anybody remember it) WWF Superstars I, for the gameboy.
http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/WWF_Super_Stars_GBC_ScreenShot1.jpg
"You're(your ego's?) writing cheques your body can't cash " (well, that was the jist of the sentence anyway)
They used to take alot of cocaine and push themselves to the limit..
There have also been some heart attacks, probably because those wrestlers are SO big, and they are working their heart too hard. You know running , though it can be healthy, can also be a big risk to the heart, if not done gradually..
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Got to remember many of them took Steroids which is the worst garbage anyone can put in their body,, Thats what cause Eddie's death
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I used to be a fan. Not so much anymore. Stone Cold Steve Austin O0
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I used to be a fan. Not so much anymore. Stone Cold Steve Austin O0
Austin had to stop cause of the wear and tears on his knees as well, his real name was Steve Williams, but he couldn't use it cause there was another wrestler named Dr. Death Steve Williams.
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Wow, a lot of the wrestlers I watched when I was little were on that list!
Not surprising though... when you combine steroids, drugs and immorality Bad things happen
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I used to be a fan. Not so much anymore. Stone Cold Steve Austin O0
Austin had to stop cause of the wear and tears on his knees as well, his real name was Steve Williams, but he couldn't use it cause there was another wrestler named Dr. Death Steve Williams.
Not only that his neck has gotten worse
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I do urge all of you, if you do work out, please do not touch steroids or any growth inhancements they do so much damage just for that few minutes of wanting to bulk up
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I do urge all of you, if you do work out, please do not touch steroids or any growth inhancements they do so much damage just for that few minutes of wanting to bulk up
Now you tell me
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Well I work out all the time and seen in the gyms these bulky guys and many you can tell it was inhancement and they dont see all the horror they will get later in life, it will explode your heart, kill your brain cells and also your swimmers down there they die
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Well I work out all the time and seen in the gyms these bulky guys and many you can tell it was inhancement and they dont see all the horror they will get later in life, it will explode your heart, kill your brain cells and also your swimmers down there they die
My boys oh no
I know it is bad
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And it leads to death it isn't worth it. I tell young people that if they start its at 15 and do it naturally work out eat right. Don't put things in your body that it is only good for a few but in the long run it will damage plus the rages
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Well I work out all the time and seen in the gyms these bulky guys and many you can tell it was inhancement and they dont see all the horror they will get later in life, it will explode your heart, kill your brain cells and also your swimmers down there they die
My boys oh no
I know it is bad
bodybuilders have a way around that one. Steroids are an artificial thing that causes shrinkage. I vaguely recall that they take testosterone too, that makes them grow again and produce alot and go crazy.
I did also see a program that said the extra testosterone reduces a man's life expectancy. And I think in the case of women, it gave them a zest for life, a new strength, made them horny, a bit hairy, and extended the length of their "clitoris", I think they meant their "clitoral shaft". Scary thing was I saw a health shop stocking huge tubs of testosterone cream near the huge tubs of protein powder! A guy on the program claimed that some women in the houses of parliament take injections of testosterone. The houses of parliament is a british institution where parliamentarians debate.
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And they shown women taking it. That black runner in the last olympis that had to give up her medals it showed her turning up possitive for roids, for women it does damage to their reproductive system too. If you want to work out I have no prboelm in that i am a major endorser in training to keep yourself fit, but to put this in your body no that is not only cheating but dangerous. All those baseball players and football players in years to come will see the nightmare downfall from roids. It will kill and it has killed
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(http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/21/images/steroid1.jpg)
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I doubt anybody here is a professional athlete, or stupid enough to take steroids.
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I am not a pro athlete, but I like David Ben Mosche are into body building but we are in to it in the natural way of doing it. I dont want to compete I do it for my own health and strength cause over weight was a delema to many of my family members. But as I said urge people especially our youth to stay away from that stuff
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I used to lift weights but I stopped :'(
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you can lift or bike or swim or whatever if you do it the right way then nothing will happen, if you do work out make sure you stretch out first so no muscle injuries
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you can lift or bike or swim or whatever if you do it the right way then nothing will happen, if you do work out make sure you stretch out first so no muscle injuries
I would only lift and do a little boxing that was it
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I am not a pro athlete, but I like David Ben Mosche are into body building but we are in to it in the natural way of doing it. I dont want to compete I do it for my own health and strength cause over weight was a delema to many of my family members. But as I said urge people especially our youth to stay away from that stuff
I lifted weights for a brief period at one time, it was fun and seemed healthy.
There is a difference between weightlifting and bodybuilding. I seriously doubt that you do the latter!
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it is funny I've found this thread as only the other evening a friend and I were speaking of this and looking up and reading about many of these former wrestlers... Amazing...
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alot of the injuries are
As the million dollar man's avatar said in this game (anybody remember it) WWF Superstars I, for the gameboy.
http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/WWF_Super_Stars_GBC_ScreenShot1.jpg
"You're(your ego's?) writing cheques your body can't cash " (well, that was the jist of the sentence anyway)
They used to take alot of cocaine and push themselves to the limit..
There have also been some heart attacks, probably because those wrestlers are SO big, and they are working their heart too hard. You know running , though it can be healthy, can also be a big risk to the heart, if not done gradually..
Ah I remember that game, WWF superstars was great, I also had king of the ring for gameboy.
I loved WWF RAW and Royal Rumble for Sega Genesis/super NES, good times.
One of the best games I ever played though was Fire Pro Wrestling D, that is an amazing game. I have it for dreamcast and it's amazing what you can do in that game, here is video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShWgelKVkU
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I remember seeing beyond the mat at the theatres, my mother took us at the time and was disgusted how evil Vince Mcmahon is in real life when he had droz puke in a bucket. Mcmahon definitely isn't a moral person, and ever since he bought WCW, things have been pretty crappy.
He bought both WCW and ECW and turned ECW into watered down. As far as WCW goes, its start of falling apart was when Bischoff fired at the time the 2 Hollywood Blondes, one of them was the late Brian Pillman, the other was Steve Austin, which was the worst thing WCW did cause that boosted Austin to what he is now, also WCW shaddy deals cost them Malenko, Perry Saturn, Benoit, Eddie, Rey Mysterio. And Vince Ruzzo took over and just self destruct WCW and Vince just pwned all he pwned Paul Heyman and ECW couldn't compete with Vince's bank account
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Curt Henning (Mr. Perfect) he use to sing on WCW rap is crap ( had to agree there but) he was a major whoa when he was found dead in Minn. and the autopsy showed it was a combination of coke, pain pills and alcohol. It caused him massive heart failure. It is not just a tough business to get in, in fact the ones that are lucky to go on Raw for example is one in a trillion but whats harder is for them to keep going.
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I used to like him; Mr. Perfect. He was one of my favorite wrestlers. I also like Ravishing Rick Rude, Hercules Hernendez, Magnificent Muraco and a number of others. After reading further very few are still alive... :'( They were good entertainers...imo
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They were, they gave fans what they wanted, entertainment. Just too bad their outcome has tainted a legacy. The Von Erichs maybe next to the Harts as the most legendary names in the business and both families were plagued
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I like the Undertaker.
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They were, they gave fans what they wanted, entertainment. Just too bad their outcome has tainted a legacy. The Von Erichs maybe next to the Harts as the most legendary names in the business and both families were plagued
weren't the von erichs almost all suicides?
I only really saw Kerry(the texas tornado) - WWF, but read about the rest in the more serious wrestling magazines like PWI(pro wresting illustrated).
According to the Warrior, the TT kept a secret even from him, that he was wrestling on a wooden leg( or foot?)..
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Yes I believe there were 4 deaths in the family 3 were suicides and the forth was undisclosed...probably suicide as well... Yes Kerry Von Eric had wrestled for a short while prior to his suicide with a wooden foot which he received after a motorcycle accident I believe..
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I remember seeing beyond the mat at the theatres, my mother took us at the time and was disgusted how evil Vince Mcmahon is in real life when he had droz puke in a bucket. Mcmahon definitely isn't a moral person, and ever since he bought WCW, things have been pretty crappy.
He bought both WCW and ECW and turned ECW into watered down. As far as WCW goes, its start of falling apart was when Bischoff fired at the time the 2 Hollywood Blondes, one of them was the late Brian Pillman, the other was Steve Austin, which was the worst thing WCW did cause that boosted Austin to what he is now, also WCW shaddy deals cost them Malenko, Perry Saturn, Benoit, Eddie, Rey Mysterio. And Vince Ruzzo took over and just self destruct WCW and Vince just pwned all he pwned Paul Heyman and ECW couldn't compete with Vince's bank account
I can't say I ever really liked WCW, I switched during the monday night wars to segments when the NWO first came in, used to watch lucha libre, and went to a live Nitro at rosemont in Illinois around 1996. Other than that, the wrestling was always kind of "stiff" with their heavyweights, it looked very fake and I hated the announcers. Also the entrance music was horrendous with their generic fast beats.
I watched WWF even when it was doing piss poor in 96 and 97.
WCW turned into a joke around 99-2000. By 2001, after DDP left with no explanation after his match with Scott Steiner, knew the company was already dead and WWF was way ahead in ratings with the whole stephanie mcmahon-helmsley thing. I remember when Vince bought WCW and he showed up on Monday Nitro on TNT, I was like WTF? They aired their last show right in Panama city (right near where I live) and Vince Mcmahon saying it was "suitable" for WCW to air their last show in some redneck joint on the panhandle of Florida (Thanks Vince ::) ). WCW was the southern company, WWF was the northern company.
ECW didn't last much longer, they cancelled their payperview March 11th but they still had a few more shows (not on tv) that were filmed by fancam, the company was in such bad shape that they went from airing their shows in a bingo hall to very small warehouses with chairs setup and some disco balls to make up the special effects.
After that, we all know about the invasion storyline which sucked more than anything, it was exciting to see Lance Storm invade, but after I found out that Vince Mcmahon wasn't going to copromote two brands, that was the start of the downfall right there. When Hogan came in with the NWO storyline at Wrestlemania X-8, I thought we would finally see some improvement but after that, WWE became like a lightbulb, sometimes the light was on, most of the time it was off.
When TNA started up, I was hoping for some competition, when Christian Cage and Kurt Angle jumped over, I thought maybe we'd see another monday night war, nope, TNA is still the small company it is and doesn't look like fans want anything to do with it, niche market.
Personally I can't even get into wrestling anymore, there's virtually no competition, it's like Windows vs MAC, yes theres other OS'es (like Linux) but Windows dominates the majority of the home market. The same applies for wrestling which is why we get stale garbage on tv, because Vince knows it's the only option to the average wrestling fan.
Of course it doesn't help either that Vince Mcmahon launched Tough Enough and publically stated "I'm not in the rassling business, i'm in the entertainment business", this is probably why so many former wrestling fans are starting to watch UFC/MMA because wrestling isn't using the old formulas that worked, but UFC is using the formulas wrestling used (like the promos/etc to get people interested in a fight) and it's working for them.
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And it leads to death it isn't worth it. I tell young people that if they start its at 15 and do it naturally work out eat right. Don't put things in your body that it is only good for a few but in the long run it will damage plus the rages
And that's the bottom line, 'cause MasterWolf said so!
Great points MW :)
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They were, they gave fans what they wanted, entertainment. Just too bad their outcome has tainted a legacy. The Von Erichs maybe next to the Harts as the most legendary names in the business and both families were plagued
weren't the von erichs almost all suicides?
I only really saw Kerry(the texas tornado) - WWF, but read about the rest in the more serious wrestling magazines like PWI(pro wresting illustrated).
According to the Warrior, the TT kept a secret even from him, that he was wrestling on a wooden leg( or foot?)..
Chris, David and Kerry Von Erich suicide, and Mike Von Erich was cancer.
The sad part about it is that everyone had a promising career but Kerry's was cut short cause of the accident. And now Randy Orton a 3rd generation blue chipper son of Cowboy Bob Orton had a motorcycle accident he was already injured a few months back but got on a bike it was ill advised and he crashed.
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I remember seeing beyond the mat at the theatres, my mother took us at the time and was disgusted how evil Vince Mcmahon is in real life when he had droz puke in a bucket. Mcmahon definitely isn't a moral person, and ever since he bought WCW, things have been pretty crappy.
He bought both WCW and ECW and turned ECW into watered down. As far as WCW goes, its start of falling apart was when Bischoff fired at the time the 2 Hollywood Blondes, one of them was the late Brian Pillman, the other was Steve Austin, which was the worst thing WCW did cause that boosted Austin to what he is now, also WCW shaddy deals cost them Malenko, Perry Saturn, Benoit, Eddie, Rey Mysterio. And Vince Ruzzo took over and just self destruct WCW and Vince just pwned all he pwned Paul Heyman and ECW couldn't compete with Vince's bank account
I can't say I ever really liked WCW, I switched during the monday night wars to segments when the NWO first came in, used to watch lucha libre, and went to a live Nitro at rosemont in Illinois around 1996. Other than that, the wrestling was always kind of "stiff" with their heavyweights, it looked very fake and I hated the announcers. Also the entrance music was horrendous with their generic fast beats.
I watched WWF even when it was doing piss poor in 96 and 97.
WCW turned into a joke around 99-2000. By 2001, after DDP left with no explanation after his match with Scott Steiner, knew the company was already dead and WWF was way ahead in ratings with the whole stephanie mcmahon-helmsley thing. I remember when Vince bought WCW and he showed up on Monday Nitro on TNT, I was like WTF? They aired their last show right in Panama city (right near where I live) and Vince Mcmahon saying it was "suitable" for WCW to air their last show in some redneck joint on the panhandle of Florida (Thanks Vince ::) ). WCW was the southern company, WWF was the northern company.
ECW didn't last much longer, they cancelled their payperview March 11th but they still had a few more shows (not on tv) that were filmed by fancam, the company was in such bad shape that they went from airing their shows in a bingo hall to very small warehouses with chairs setup and some disco balls to make up the special effects.
After that, we all know about the invasion storyline which sucked more than anything, it was exciting to see Lance Storm invade, but after I found out that Vince Mcmahon wasn't going to copromote two brands, that was the start of the downfall right there. When Hogan came in with the NWO storyline at Wrestlemania X-8, I thought we would finally see some improvement but after that, WWE became like a lightbulb, sometimes the light was on, most of the time it was off.
When TNA started up, I was hoping for some competition, when Christian Cage and Kurt Angle jumped over, I thought maybe we'd see another monday night war, nope, TNA is still the small company it is and doesn't look like fans want anything to do with it, niche market.
Personally I can't even get into wrestling anymore, there's virtually no competition, it's like Windows vs MAC, yes theres other OS'es (like Linux) but Windows dominates the majority of the home market. The same applies for wrestling which is why we get stale garbage on tv, because Vince knows it's the only option to the average wrestling fan.
Of course it doesn't help either that Vince Mcmahon launched Tough Enough and publically stated "I'm not in the rassling business, i'm in the entertainment business", this is probably why so many former wrestling fans are starting to watch UFC/MMA because wrestling isn't using the old formulas that worked, but UFC is using the formulas wrestling used (like the promos/etc to get people interested in a fight) and it's working for them.
Did you ever see the interview of both Owen and Vince did and ironically it was exactly one week before his tragic fall? If not here it is
This was the night of Over the Edge which was right before his match and reactions from at the time WWF and fans that were in KC that night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVX0eO3Om8&feature=related
This is when Jim Ross was ready to announce the match and not one time the camera zoomed to the ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovb2fGKwPC8&feature=related
I am glad to see some people in here with the knowledge, I know it is acting for the most part and it is. But I remember my grandpa taking me to MSG when I was a kid watching Piper and Hogan and all of them
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They were, they gave fans what they wanted, entertainment. Just too bad their outcome has tainted a legacy. The Von Erichs maybe next to the Harts as the most legendary names in the business and both families were plagued
weren't the von erichs almost all suicides?
I only really saw Kerry(the texas tornado) - WWF, but read about the rest in the more serious wrestling magazines like PWI(pro wresting illustrated).
According to the Warrior, the TT kept a secret even from him, that he was wrestling on a wooden leg( or foot?)..
Chris, David and Kerry Von Erich suicide, and Mike Von Erich was cancer.
The sad part about it is that everyone had a promising career but Kerry's was cut short cause of the accident. And now Randy Orton a 3rd generation blue chipper son of Cowboy Bob Orton had a motorcycle accident he was already injured a few months back but got on a bike it was ill advised and he crashed.
I'm surprised with all the stuff he's pulled, that he hasn't been fired, but that's the luxury of being a big name. Remember when he took a [censored] in that one diva's cosmetic bag?
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They were, they gave fans what they wanted, entertainment. Just too bad their outcome has tainted a legacy. The Von Erichs maybe next to the Harts as the most legendary names in the business and both families were plagued
weren't the von erichs almost all suicides?
I only really saw Kerry(the texas tornado) - WWF, but read about the rest in the more serious wrestling magazines like PWI(pro wresting illustrated).
According to the Warrior, the TT kept a secret even from him, that he was wrestling on a wooden leg( or foot?)..
Chris, David and Kerry Von Erich suicide, and Mike Von Erich was cancer.
The sad part about it is that everyone had a promising career but Kerry's was cut short cause of the accident. And now Randy Orton a 3rd generation blue chipper son of Cowboy Bob Orton had a motorcycle accident he was already injured a few months back but got on a bike it was ill advised and he crashed.
I'm surprised with all the stuff he's pulled, that he hasn't been fired, but that's the luxury of being a big name. Remember when he took a drek in that one diva's cosmetic bag?
They already reported he is injured but didn't say the extent of the injury yet
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Oh and here is Curt Henning's resting site
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbylEmm-no&feature=related