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Title: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 21, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Islam justifies sexual relations with farm animals

The case of the sexual abuse of female apes by Muslims in indonesia is known. (http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=24411.0)

Now writes the blog PI in an issue, that the islamic Sunna of Sahih al Buchari justifies the abuse of camels.

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Ibn Sharib is telling, Ib Abdul Talib has said: Always if his whomen have had their monthly purgation (this means menstruation), I saw the messenger of Allah (sws) often near his flock of camels. There  he used to have loving contact with the female animals,but he turned also to the pups of both gender
(Sahih Al-Buchari Bd. 2, Nr. 357)

and Ayatollah Komenei said to the issue:

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A man can have sexual relations with animals like sheep, cows and camels. But he should kill the animal after he has finished. He should not sell the meat to people of his own village, but to sell it in the next village is allowed.
(Quote from Tahrirolvasyleh, by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini; book 4 Darol Elm, Ghom, Iran, 1990)


Source: http://www.pi-news.net/2007/05/im-namen-allahs-sex-mit-nutztieren-in-ordnung/

Is this really a religion, or is it a Muslim Nazi cult?
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: q_q_ on August 21, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
Interesting. That's from Sahih Bukhari, Sahih means Sound/Reliable.

All hadith in there are reliable(reliable narrations of mohammed's life), they have a reliable isnad(chain of transmission)..

often muslims say some hadith are not reliable.. But fact is, ones in that book are by definition!
And almost every muslim accepts the hadith.


Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 21, 2008, 07:39:06 PM
Interesting. That's from Sahih Bukhari, Sahih means Sound/Reliable.

All hadith in there are reliable(reliable narrations of mohammed's life), they have a reliable isnad(chain of transmission)..

often muslims say some hadith are not reliable.. But fact is, ones in that book are by definition!
And almost every muslim accepts the hadith.




Yes you are right. There are four big hadith collections. Buhari, Muslim, Sidschistani and Madscha. But the two first one are the most reliable for quranimals.  :(
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 21, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
Look in Hesse the police catched a muslim who abused sheep:

http://www.presseportal.de/print.htx?nr=966316&type=polizei

 :(
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: zachor_ve_kavod on August 21, 2008, 10:24:29 PM
The entire religion of islam is ruled by their frustrated libidos.  That ayatolah nazi said it was permissable to have intercourse with infants, that disgusting piece of excrement.  They're so desperate for some form of sexual power that they're willing to blow themselves up for a lay.  If they could think logically, even for one minute, they would have to question their own morality, i.e., are they really fighting for the cause of their so-called god, or are they just trying to "get some"?  These people make me sick.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: nopeaceforland on August 21, 2008, 10:27:33 PM
Relations with farm animals? That's baaaaaad! :::D

Just wondering: When Mr. Ed said "Ohhhh, Wilbur" Was he answering a ?, or did they have sexual relations? ??? :::D
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Zelhar on August 22, 2008, 11:32:10 AM
So Muhammad loved his camels a bit too much, why am i not surprised ;)
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on August 22, 2008, 04:37:41 PM
So Muhammad loved his camels a bit too much, why am i not surprised ;)

Shalom Zelhar, since Muslims are worse than wild animals ( refering to muslims killing their own children ) I am not surprised that they practise this sick thing of doing it with animals. Muslims having sex with animals is evil and sickening. Muslims follow Satan.

                                                                      Shalom from Dox   

P.S. Shabbat Shalom !
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: P J C on August 22, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
You can just look at their women. You can tell that there was an animal involved somewhere. Not to insult animals.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: schrodinger's cat on August 22, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
Islam justifies sexual relations with farm animals

The case of the sexual abuse of female apes by Muslims in indonesia is known. (http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=24411.0)

Now writes the blog PI in an issue, that the islamic Sunna of Sahih al Buchari justifies the abuse of camels.

Quote
Ibn Sharib is telling, Ib Abdul Talib has said: Always if his whomen have had their monthly purgation (this means menstruation), I saw the messenger of Allah (sws) often near his flock of camels. There  he used to have loving contact with the female animals,but he turned also to the pups of both gender
(Sahih Al-Buchari Bd. 2, Nr. 357)

and Ayatollah Komenei said to the issue:

Quote
A man can have sexual relations with animals like sheep, cows and camels. But he should kill the animal after he has finished. He should not sell the meat to people of his own village, but to sell it in the next village is allowed.
(Quote from Tahrirolvasyleh, by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini; book 4 Darol Elm, Ghom, Iran, 1990)


Source: http://www.pi-news.net/2007/05/im-namen-allahs-sex-mit-nutztieren-in-ordnung/

Is this really a religion, or is it a Muslim Nazi cult?

I can't find the first quote in Bukhari.  It is either mislabeled or wrong.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 22, 2008, 06:38:10 PM
I have took the information from PI. I will check it in Buhari. I have it in my library.  :-\
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on August 24, 2008, 02:58:02 AM
what about 1 year old camels?
can a muslim mess with those?
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Rubystars on August 24, 2008, 03:25:47 AM
Now this explains why they rape young girls like Mohammed did. They consider women and girls to be like farm animals, but how do they justify their attacks on little boys?
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: q_q_ on August 24, 2008, 04:12:37 AM
Now this explains why they rape young girls like Mohammed did. They consider women and girls to be like farm animals, but how do they justify their attacks on little boys?

arab dominance over one another at each other's expense.

there is LOTS of prison-style rape in the arab world.   Maybe little boys are just easier for them..

I know mohammed spoke of little boys like pearls.. in paradise/jenna. But I think in practice  they probably go for boys of at least 16, simply because it's more likely the boy will be ashamed keep quiet and not tell his father.
If the boy is 10, and gets raped he might tell his dad and brothers. But at 16+ he'd certainly be too ashamed to.
It would just require one man to be strong and the other -very- weak and extremely beaten and afraid.. Seems strange, but it happens in prisons. Arabs have that culture..



Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Rubystars on August 24, 2008, 04:13:45 AM
Now this explains why they rape young girls like Mohammed did. They consider women and girls to be like farm animals, but how do they justify their attacks on little boys?

arab dominance over one another at each other's expense.

there is LOTS of prison-style rape in the arab world.   Maybe little boys are just easier for them..

I know mohammed spoke of little boys like pearls.. in paradise/jenna. But I think in practice  they probably go for boys of at least 16, simply because it's more likely the boy will be ashamed keep quiet and not tell his father.
If the boy is 10, and gets raped he might tell his dad and brothers. But at 16+ he'd certainly be too ashamed to.
It would just require one man to be strong and the other -very- weak and extremely beaten and afraid..

Poor kids :(

No wonder they grow up so full of hate and resentment.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 24, 2008, 04:32:49 AM
@kamerakid:

I took the issue directly from PI and translated it straight into English.

Under number 375 is a totally different hadith. Also I don't found this quote in different hadith search-engines on the web.

So it is with great possibility a hoax, although Muslimes in Indonesia practize this abnomination. Perhaps this evil behaviour has other sources.  :-\

Next time I will double-check it.

I apologize to our members - but not to the Muzz - principle  ;D
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: q_q_ on August 24, 2008, 04:40:18 AM
There is a hadith where mohammed says the women in paradise will be like a she camel in heat

(something sexual happens to a she camel in heat, their vagina swells up. This would be well known to desert arabs, and clearly was what mohammed was referring to)

by iceyyy of investigateislam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIarCiGp-cI
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Zelhar on August 24, 2008, 06:33:31 AM
@kamerakid:

I took the issue directly from PI and translated it straight into English.

Under number 375 is a totally different hadith. Also I don't found this quote in different hadith search-engines on the web.

So it is with great possibility a hoax, although Muslimes in Indonesia practize this abnomination. Perhaps this evil behaviour has other sources.  :-\

Next time I will double-check it.

I apologize to our members - but not to the Muzz - principle  ;D

I also have failed to find this quote. I think the quote from Khumeini is accurate, at list one can find lots of references to it in google http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/JenniferKing50718p2.htm.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 24, 2008, 07:00:15 AM
There is a hadith where mohammed says the women in paradise will be like a she camel in heat

(something sexual happens to a she camel in heat, their vagina swells up. This would be well known to desert arabs, and clearly was what mohammed was referring to)

by iceyyy of investigateislam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIarCiGp-cI


I have seen the clip. It is primitive and obviously evil to lure people with "rewards" like this in the world to come into a religion.  :(
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: q_q_ on August 24, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
There is a hadith where mohammed says the women in paradise will be like a she camel in heat

(something sexual happens to a she camel in heat, their vagina swells up. This would be well known to desert arabs, and clearly was what mohammed was referring to)

by iceyyy of investigateislam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIarCiGp-cI


I have seen the clip. It is primitive and obviously evil to lure people with "rewards" like this in the world to come into a religion.  :(

That is minor and really missing the big point

the big point is that the founder of the religion was a desert arab pervert par excellance, that would sit there staring at female camel genitalia, thinking this was an ideal for a human woman.
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Masha on August 24, 2008, 11:18:29 AM
The case of the sexual abuse of female apes by Muslims in indonesia is known.

They probably just confuse apes with their women, that's why.  :::D
Title: Re: Islam justifies sexual relations to farm animals
Post by: Ulli on August 24, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
There is a hadith where mohammed says the women in paradise will be like a she camel in heat

(something sexual happens to a she camel in heat, their vagina swells up. This would be well known to desert arabs, and clearly was what mohammed was referring to)

by iceyyy of investigateislam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIarCiGp-cI


Yes you are right. I watched it again.  :)

I have seen the clip. It is primitive and obviously evil to lure people with "rewards" like this in the world to come into a religion.  :(

That is minor and really missing the big point

the big point is that the founder of the religion was a desert arab pervert par excellance, that would sit there staring at female camel genitalia, thinking this was an ideal for a human woman.