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Title: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 28, 2008, 05:15:41 AM
Has anybody thought about this issue before? Have we had once a flag?

Has somebody already a blueprint?
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: YESHA on August 28, 2008, 06:49:09 AM
I think someone once put a flag - a makeshift one - togeather. What is needed is some technical know how and also perhaps an marketing and advertising background.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 28, 2008, 07:19:36 AM
I think someone once put a flag - a makeshift one - togeather. What is needed is some technical know how and also perhaps an marketing and advertising background.

Yes, this has to be done by people with great knowledge and expierence. I mean: a flag or a logo are the things you see first of a movement. It must be perfect :)
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: mord on August 28, 2008, 07:26:24 AM
We do need a good strong flag
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 28, 2008, 09:15:30 PM
This issue has been discussed many times before. If you have any ideas, please feel free to submit them. This is something that probably will not be done unless someone comes up with a great idea. My suggestions a while ago was the Israeli flag with a Kahanist star instead of a Magen David. After some thought the Magen David should not be removed. Let me experiment with something.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 28, 2008, 09:26:15 PM
It looked too cluttered to have both of them side by side. At least they are merged. Here is my idea of one.

(http://www.geocities.com/takebackourtemple/JTFFLAG.jpg)
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 29, 2008, 02:10:43 AM
It looked too cluttered to have both of them side by side. At least they are merged. Here is my idea of one.

(http://www.geocities.com/takebackourtemple/JTFFLAG.jpg)

Are you working in the design sector? It looks very professional  O0
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Harzel on August 29, 2008, 06:28:14 AM
Personally i don't think the fist is a good choice for a sign.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 29, 2008, 07:49:18 AM
No I don't work in the design section. I just grabbed some images and moved them around in paintbrush. The star and first is important because we are a kahanist movement.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Shamgar on August 29, 2008, 09:17:08 AM
TBOT, can you try putting the Magen David back in and make the fist a bit more abstract, almost like a background wash or watermark?
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 30, 2008, 11:13:21 PM
TBOT, can you try putting the Magen David back in and make the fist a bit more abstract, almost like a background wash or watermark?

   This should be a collaborative effort, so if anyone wants to build on my idea, you are welcome to. The Kahane Star in essence is a Magen David. The only thing that I see as possible missing is something to show that we also support the United States, but if we add the US, the question becomes whether we also have to include other western nations that we support.
   Personally I would not recommend anything abstract. We want our message to be clear. Give it a try and see what you can come up with.

Here is another shot at it.

(http://www.geocities.com/takebackourtemple/JTFFLAG2.jpg)
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 31, 2008, 04:45:09 AM
The flag with the writing on it looks imo even better  O0
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 31, 2008, 04:49:50 AM
Only problem is the fist is the JDL symbol, which is copywrighted and probably shelley rubin owns the rights to the logo, and also it is not original.   We could perhaps come up with something more original but still appropriate to the JTF themes...   I am no artist nor have time.   Just throwing out thoughts.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Shamgar on August 31, 2008, 08:52:56 AM
Put the third Temple on it!
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Harzel on August 31, 2008, 11:13:09 AM
I would suggest combining a Torah scroll with a microscope into the Magen David. I think it represents us better than a fist.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 11:19:47 AM
Only problem is the fist is the JDL symbol, which is copywrighted and probably shelley rubin owns the rights to the logo, and also it is not original.   We could perhaps come up with something more original but still appropriate to the JTF themes...   I am no artist nor have time.   Just throwing out thoughts.

   But we already use the symbol for the wings on our site. I could possibly keep the original Magen David and replace the stripes with blue wings. I would need a larger image of the wings to work with to try this since the ones we have lose resolution if I try to stretch them.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 31, 2008, 12:30:04 PM
Only problem is the fist is the JDL symbol, which is copywrighted and probably shelley rubin owns the rights to the logo, and also it is not original.   We could perhaps come up with something more original but still appropriate to the JTF themes...   I am no artist nor have time.   Just throwing out thoughts.

   But we already use the symbol for the wings on our site. I could possibly keep the original Magen David and replace the stripes with blue wings. I would need a larger image of the wings to work with to try this since the ones we have lose resolution if I try to stretch them.

Yes true. Bu if the widow of Irv Rubin has the copyright on it, we can use perhaps the heraldic animal of Juda instead of it. Lions are very very good for heraldic issues.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Jerusalem_emblem.svg/346px-Jerusalem_emblem.svg.png)

We could put it simple instead of the magen david with the fist.  :)
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Shamgar on August 31, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
I like lions a lot. They are great!!
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 01:40:55 PM
   This is one of the reasons why I think we should have good relations with other Kahanist groups and even if we have personal disputes, we need to pretend to be friends so we can work together on the important issues. This symbol is really something that the Kahane family should own. If they were/are the true owners, they would want his symbol to live on and be honored the way it deserves to be.

   BTW. I just thought of an idea, but it will need work. We have a seven point plan, but there are six points to the Magen David. If we had a symbol for each one and put the most important in the center it might fly.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
Only problem is the fist is the JDL symbol, which is copywrighted and probably shelley rubin owns the rights to the logo, and also it is not original.   We could perhaps come up with something more original but still appropriate to the JTF themes...   I am no artist nor have time.   Just throwing out thoughts.

   But we already use the symbol for the wings on our site. I could possibly keep the original Magen David and replace the stripes with blue wings. I would need a larger image of the wings to work with to try this since the ones we have lose resolution if I try to stretch them.

Yes true. Bu if the widow of Irv Rubin has the copyright on it, we can use perhaps the heraldic animal of Juda instead of it. Lions are very very good for heraldic issues.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Jerusalem_emblem.svg/346px-Jerusalem_emblem.svg.png)

We could put it simple instead of the magen david with the fist.  :)

Maybe the lion ripping some Muslim Nazi Up. Personally I would like to see something simple.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Sorry for a third post in a row. I'm just brainstorming. Did the Rav have any other symbols that he used to use?
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Harzel on August 31, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Sorry for a third post in a row. I'm just brainstorming. Did the Rav have any other symbols that he used to use?
I think originally he used the Irgun symbol but they made him change it, which is a good thing since the Irgun symbol sucks.

(http://i-eclectica.org/wordpress/wp-content/my images/History/etzel emblem.jpg)
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
I'm banning sonofzion for posting porn here.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Ulli on August 31, 2008, 02:58:26 PM
I'm banning sonofzion for posting porn here.

Thank you  :) This porn crap is beginning to annoy me. We have to purge our forum from those enemies of god.  O0
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Lets get back to the topic of the logo now. If anyone has an idea, please submit it.
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: Zionistforever on August 31, 2008, 08:04:06 PM
Lets get back to the topic of the logo now. If anyone has an idea, please submit it.
i thought of something what if we used blue and white stripes (the basic background for the israeli flag) put six stars of magen all around it. put "the jewish" on the top white stripe, and "Task Force" on the bottom stripe. and perhaps something like our fist, or even "Armed we are united" in hebrew in the middle. ??? hows that ?
Title: Re: We need a JTF-flag / a JTF-standard !
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 31, 2008, 10:02:25 PM
Try it out and post it here.