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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: zachor_ve_kavod on September 18, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
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Well, I mentioned that Hillary decided not to attend this anti-iran rally because Sarah Palin was going to attend. Like a bunch of ghetto Jews, the organizers of the rally apologized to Clinton because they should have let her know that Palin was going to attend. So now they've told Palin that they don't want her there.
First of all, Clinton reacted hysterically when she learned that Palin was going to come, saying that this was not supposed to be a partisan event. Who made it a partisan event? Well, Clinton did by refusing to go. Now these sick wimps decide to uninvite Palin because they don't want to offend the Clinton camp.
This is disgusting. These Jews are a greater enemy to the state of Israel than any arab who ever lived.
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This is terrible news. >:(
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Well, I mentioned that Hillary decided not to attend this anti-iran rally because Sarah Palin was going to attend. Like a bunch of ghetto Jews, the organizers of the rally apologized to Clinton because they should have let her know that Palin was going to attend. So now they've told Palin that they don't want her there.
First of all, Clinton reacted hysterically when she learned that Palin was going to come, saying that this was not supposed to be a partisan event. Who made it a partisan event? Well, Clinton did by refusing to go. Now these sick wimps decide to uninvite Palin because they don't want to offend the Clinton camp.
This is disgusting. These Jews are a greater enemy to the state of Israel than any arab who ever lived.
where is this posted?
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This "Jewish" group probably wanted to invite Barack Hussein Osama and his Muslim whore Michelle in Sarah's stead.
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This "Jewish" group probably wanted to invite Barack Hussein Osama and his Muslim whore Michelle in Sarah's stead.
Here it is please C.F. do a poll about this group
Idon'nt want to even say my thoughts on this
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110433.html
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/clinton-blindsided-palin/
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These people are giving Jews a bad name. That is why we need to make it clear that CHAIM AND JTF REPRESENTS THE TRUE MINDSET OF THE JEWS AND ANY RIGHTEOUS MAN WOMEN AND CHILD!
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Most people going to this protest will be religious Jews they must boycott thisevent
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What is to stop us from organizing a counter Anti-Iran rally which will support Palin and McCain. These scumbags are the lowest form of life. Self-Hating Jews are more dangerous to us than the Muslims. I see the events of Channukah occuring again, where the Hellenist Jews will have to be dealt with in an unkind manner. Those Hellenist Jews could be the death of Judaism as we know it.
muman613
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The following are the 51 so called charities that are part of the The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Though I probably wouldn't have given even a penny to many of these so called charities, as a result of their horrific actions today, now I have no intention ever to give to any of these organizations. The only good thing that will come out of this is it reinforces how important JTF, VJA, and Women in Green are for America, Israel, and Western Civilization.
http://www.conferenceofpresidents.org/content.asp?id=55
Ameinu
American Friends of Likud
American Gathering/Federation of Jewish Holocaust Survivors
America-Israel Friendship League
American Israel Public Affairs Committee
American Jewish Committee
American Jewish Congress
American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
American Sephardi Federation
American Zionist Movement
Americans for Peace Now
AMIT
Anti-Defamation League
Association of Reform Zionists of America
B’nai B’rith International
Bnai Zion
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America
Development Corporation for Israel / State of Israel Bonds
Emunah of America
Friends of Israel Defense Forces
Hadassah, Women’s Zionist Organization of America
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
Hillel: The Foundation for Jewish Campus Life
Jewish Community Centers Association
Jewish Council for Public Affairs
Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Jewish Labor Committee
Jewish National Fund
Jewish Reconstructionist Federation
Jewish War Veterans of the USA
Jewish Women International
MERCAZ USA, Zionist Organization of the Conservative Movement
NA’AMAT USA
NCSJ: Advocates on behalf of Jews in Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic States & Eurasia
National Council of Jewish Women
National Council of Young Israel
ORT America
Rabbinical Assembly
Rabbinical Council of America
Religious Zionists of America
Union for Reform Judaism
Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America
United Jewish Communities
United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism
WIZO
Women’s League for Conservative Judaism
Women of Reform Judaism
Workmen’s Circle
World Zionist Executive, US
Zionist Organization of America
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Here is the article:
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/2008/09/18/1765/palin-disinvited-from-iran-rally/
Palin disinvited from Iran rally
By Uriel Heilman on Sep 18, 2008 in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Presidential Race, RJC, Sarah Palin | ShareThis
Here’s the report from Ben Harris:
NEW YORK (JTA) — Sarah Palin is being disinvited from the Jewish-sponsored Iran rally, sources told JTA.
The move follows two days of controversy for organizers of next Monday’s rally to protest Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the United Nations.
The controversy erupted after JTA reported that Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, had accepted an invitation from the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations to speak at the event. The news of Palin’s participation prompted Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), who had pledged several weeks earlier to speak at the rally, to announce she was withdrawing from the event.
Spokespeople for both Palin and Clinton proceeded to trade barbs over who was responsible for tainting the rally with politics.
A Clinton spokesperson said the senator withdrew because the rally had become “a partisan political event.”
Palin spokeswoman Tracy Schmitt took a shot at Clinton, saying the Republican nominee “believes that the danger of a nuclear Iran is greater than party or politics.”
The National Jewish Democratic Council defended Clinton’s decision not to attend and called for Palin to be disinvited so as to preserve the nonpartisan nature of the effort to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
On Thursday, the Conference of Presidents held a conference call for organizers of the rally at which the decision was made to limit participation in the rally to unelected officials, participants on the call told JTA.
Shortly afterward, organizers put out a statement saying, “In order to keep the focus on Iranian threats and to ensure that this critical message not be obscured, the organizers of the rally have decided not to have any American political personalities appear.”
The statement said Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel and Israeli Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik would address the demonstration.
The controversy over the rally has sparked concern that the issue of stopping Iran has been politicized, undermining efforts to cast opposition to Ahmadinejad’s belligerence and nuclear ambitions as a broad bipartisan issue in the United States. Jewish organizers have labored to present the Iranian regime as a threat not only to Israel but to the United States and the world.
In an effort to avoid the taint of imbalance and partisanship, the Presidents Conference issued a late invitation to the Obama campaign Wednesday morning. But reportedly irked by the conference’s slight, the Obama camp did not commit to sending a representative.
Malcolm Hoenlein, the executive vice chairman of the Presidents Conference, told JTA earlier this week that the invitation to speak at the rally was extended to Clinton several weeks ago. He also told The New York Jewish Week that once Clinton accepted, organizers did not want to supersede her by bringing in someone from the Obama campaign.
Fred Zeidman, a leading Jewish backer of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, told JTA he was approached about helping secure a speaker around the time of the Republican National Convention at the beginning of September in Minnesota. Zeidman said he forwarded the request to the campaign last week with a recommendation that it cooperate.
“I remember saying to our guys, Hillary Clinton is representing the other side,” Zeidman said. “We’ve got to really take this seriously.”
In a statement this week, the McCain campaign noted its own participation in the rally and derided Obama’s stated willingness to negotiate with the man being protested.
“Instead of pressuring Senator Clinton to withdraw and pressuring the event’s organizers to disinvite Governor Palin, we hope Senator Obama will consider lending his own voice to this cause,” McCain-Palin spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a statement published on a Washington Post’s campaign blog, The Trail. “And if [the] Senator subsequently wishes to clarify any remarks that might be misconstrued, he will have the opportunity to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without preconditions after he speaks at the U.N. the following day.”
Clinton advisers said the senator dropped out of her own accord, not due to any pressure from the Obama campaign, according to the Washington Post.
The rally “is not and will not be a partisan event,” Hoenlein told The Jewish Week before his group decided to cancel the invitation to Palin. “The organizers reached out to a wide spectrum of people. Hillary accepted early in August. We also asked numerous Republicans. Some we approached couldn’t make it, and since Governor Palin was coming to the United Nations to meet world leaders, her staff agreed to have her speak.”
Ira Forman, the National Jewish Democratic Council’s executive director, said it is the McCain campaign that was guilty of politicizing the rally with its partisan statements.
Along with other Jews involved in organizing the event, Forman also laid blame with the Presidents Conference, saying it bungled matters either by inviting Palin at all or by failing to notify the Clinton camp promptly that it had secured Palin’s participation. Forman praised the decision Thursday to cancel Palin’s appearance.
“It was a wise decision to make,” he said. “It depoliticizes an event that fundamentally needs support from everybody and shouldn’t be part of the political circus this year.”
Jewish Republicans agreed that the organizers blundered — but said the mistake was withdrawing the invitation to Palin.
“This is one of the biggest black marks on our community that I can remember in more than 20 years of working in the Jewish community,” Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, told JTA. “I think it is absolutely outrageous that we allow people with a partisan political agenda to hijack an event that is designed to send a message to Iran and the rest of the world of the U.S.’s commitment to ensure that Iran does not develop nuclear weapons. The fact that we can’t put partisan differences aside to come together on something like this — it’s sad and it’s disappointing.”
As the campaigns sparred over who was guilty of placing partisanship above principle, some Jewish leaders worried that an event intended to display unity in the face of the Iranian threat was crumbling.
“I do think that’s unfortunate,” said Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the Union for Reform Judaism. “The point here obviously is to show broad bipartisan support for the need to stop a nuclear Iran. We don’t want the message to be diverted by internal political considerations.”
“It doesn’t make sense to me as an American Jewish policy matter, and as an American matter, to let one party or the other off the hook over what is going to be, objectively in our view, the most serious foreign policy issue of the next administration,” said David Twersky, a senior advisor on policy, international affairs and communications at the American Jewish Congress. “It’s not a good policy for the Jews.”
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As the campaigns sparred over who was guilty of placing partisanship above principle, some Jewish leaders worried that an event intended to display unity in the face of the Iranian threat was crumbling.
I hope so ;D
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Is this group waiting to get carted to the ovens and gas chambers again? MORONS! >:(
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The following is the email address and phone number of the The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. I already sent them an email, basically telling them that I will never give even one cent to any of their 51 organizations unless they reverse their decision regarding Sarah Palin. I also told them that are only support organizations that will do their best to ensure that Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria remain part of Israel forever:
[email protected] or 212-318-6111
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Is this group waiting to get carted to the ovens and gas chambers again? MORONS! >:(
Their actions certainly increase the chances of this happening. Morons is a very appropriate word for their decision makers.
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"The National Jewish Democratic Council defended Clinton’s decision not to attend and called for Palin to be disinvited so as to preserve the nonpartisan nature of the effort to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions."
Who are these idiots ? Why do they have control over who attends the rally ?
Absolutely unbelievable.
Maybe JTF or some other organization can organize a similar rally and invite Palin and any other politicians willing to place the importance of country before partisan politics.
This is a disgrace. >:(
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Hold on a minute people.
I just called the number Ebb22 listed and actually got Malcom Hoenlein on the phone. He said that ALL the candidates were uninvited, as they didn't want it to be a partisan thing.
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Hold on a minute people.
I just called the number Ebb22 listed and actually got Malcom Hoenlein on the phone. He said that ALL the candidates were uninvited, as they didn't want it to be a partisan thing.
Lisa, thanks for your efforts.
The reason why I'm not buying Malcom Hoenlein's explanation is yesterday, Hillary Clinton decided to voluntarily withdraw from participating in the demonstration. If they would have uninvited Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton earlier in the week, I would still disagree with the decision but could understand the decision.
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I wrote them a scathing email! >:(
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Has Chaim heard about this?
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Ebb22, I don't think Hillary Clinton would have admitted to being uninvited.
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Lisa, if Hillary was uninvited before she announced that she wasn't coming to the demonstration, it's imperative for these Jewish organizations to set the record straight. Otherwise, they are projecting favoritism towards the Barack Hussein Obama ticket and the Democrat Party.
Regardless of whether Hillary backed out or whether both Sarah Palin AND Hillary were uninvited, the end result is Israel and the Jewish people are adversely affected by what transpired.
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Why do you list ZOA they were against Oslo, Gush Katif, Gaza and every retreat of weapons or land or prisnors. I'd like to know more about them. I don't trust them like I trust JTF but I think they are a good orginaztaion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_7UhpedNg this is the president of ZOA
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Hold on a minute people.
I just called the number Ebb22 listed and actually got Malcom Hoenlein on the phone. He said that ALL the candidates were uninvited, as they didn't want it to be a partisan thing.
Why should the candidates be uninvited? They are people with political clout and people (for better or worse) listen to them. If Sarah Palin would speak at a rally like this, people would pay attention, and then the issue would be taken more seriously than it is.
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Why do you list ZOA they were against Oslo, Gush Katif, Gaza and every retreat of weapons or land or prisnors. I'd like to know more about them. I don't trust them like I trust JTF but I think they are a good orginaztaion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_7UhpedNg this is the president of ZOA
ZOA is one of the 51 organizations that are part of The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. I'm not sure if ZOA is a good organization as a separate entity ( this would be a good " Ask JTF " question for Chaim. ). However, they are certainly associated with some very bad Jewish organizations, amongst the list of 51.
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Why should the candidates be uninvited? They are people with political clout and people (for better or worse) listen to them. If Sarah Palin would speak at a rally like this, people would pay attention, and then the issue would be taken more seriously than it is.
Excellent point. The publicity that this event would have received would have been far greater if Sarah Palin appeared. Now, the media will probably ignore the demonstration for the most part.
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Hold on a minute people.
I just called the number Ebb22 listed and actually got Malcom Hoenlein on the phone. He said that ALL the candidates were uninvited, as they didn't want it to be a partisan thing.
Even if this is true, Lisa, you know full well that this decision was reached ONLY for the purpose of excluding Sarah Palin. This Ira Forman schmuck (yimach schmo to him) probably got one phone call from the campaign of his gd (Obama) telling him to drop Palin or else, and the good widdle Jew meekly complied.
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What a wasted opportunity. Having either of those women would have caused America to wake up and take notice. This is beyond disgraceful. People in general haven't really thought about the issue of iran enough. People should understand, that there is no other issue that matters if this particular issue isn't resolved. The economy, healthcare, immigration, the environment, infrastructure...etc, none of those issues will matter at all if iran gets nuclear weapons.
The Jewish group who organized this rally understand this, I would assume, or they wouldn't have organized a rally. How can they place a greater importance on making Hillary Clinton happy than having someone like Palin come and speak at their event? What are they thinking? I will never understand people like this.
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Ultra-liberal Jews whined and they have ruined the event. They could care less about Israel. They only care about being married to the Democrat party. The National Jewish Democrat Council is the epitome of their attitude.
The organizers of the event didn't want Obama supporters to be upet.
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Obama's campaign was offered to have Obama or Biden speak at the event. You know why they both refused. And just because they refused, that doesn't mean that Palin should have been uninvited.
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The National Jewish Democrat Council is a fraudulent group.
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The media would have covered the event. But now it probably won't get much coverage.
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Obama's campaign was offered to have Obama or Biden speak at the event. You know why they both refused. And just because they refused, that doesn't mean that Palin should have been uninvited.
That's right. What does one thing have to do with the other? This is not a partisan issue. The democrats will incinerate just as much as the republicans will if these muslim nazis get the bomb.
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That's right. What does one thing have to do with the other? This is not a partisan issue. The democrats will incinerate just as much as the republicans will if these muslim nazis get the bomb.
And the Democrats policies would have caused the Catastrophe.
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Is this group waiting to get carted to the ovens and gas chambers again? MORONS! >:(
No, the idiots would be put in the gas chambers and ovens and still not realize what's happening, with people like these, who needs enemies?
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Well, I mentioned that Hillary decided not to attend this anti-iran rally because Sarah Palin was going to attend. Like a bunch of ghetto Jews, the organizers of the rally apologized to Clinton because they should have let her know that Palin was going to attend. So now they've told Palin that they don't want her there.
First of all, Clinton reacted hysterically when she learned that Palin was going to come, saying that this was not supposed to be a partisan event. Who made it a partisan event? Well, Clinton did by refusing to go. Now these sick wimps decide to uninvite Palin because they don't want to offend the Clinton camp.
This is disgusting. These Jews are a greater enemy to the state of Israel than any arab who ever lived.
I think an important point here is that Hitlery was terrified of appearing with Palin
on the same stage or dais or venue. The risk was too great and dangerous.
I think she was scared there would be comparisons made
and Hitlery would be perceived as being upstaged by this "up and coming
public servant", as Hussein has patronizingly called Palin.
This would have resulted in serious permanent damage to Hitlery's
image and a major positive PR for Palin.
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Who gives a $hit what Hillary thinks?
her husband said today, "Sen. McCain & Gov. Palin are terrific."
instead of getting insulted, which should be expected from these **stards that don't care about Israel or the Jewish people, just speak anyway.
the Sen. and Gov. had other speaking engagements today. due to all the problems on Wall St., etc., polls from Rasmussen today (Fri.) reflect BHO is up 13% in NJ and way up in the polls in Conn. What is wrong w/these people? They like being DICTATED TO BY BIDEN? He gave $900 to charity over a 10 yr. period. He is a true patriot :beast:
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These disgusting vicious animals threatened to remove the Tax-Exempt Status of the Jewish Groups .....isnt that a crime to issue threats
like that
If republicans had pulled that the media would be all over it
day and nite .............
All because the reptile Hitlery is terrified of Palin any publicity
and cheering
Sources: Intense Pressure Led To Palin UN Snub
CBS Has Learned Democrats Threatened To Attack Jewish Groups' Tax Exempt Status Over VP Nominee Invite
Marcia Kramer NEW YORK (CBS) ― Hillary Clinton won't be speaking at Monday's anti-Iran rally at the United Nations -- and neither will Republican Sarah Palin or any other politicians for that matter.
The reason? A heated behind the scenes tug-of-war.
Sources tell CBS 2 HD that a decision to disinvite Palin from the high profile rally after Clinton pulled out in a huff came as the result of intense pressure from Democrats.
"This is insulting. This is embarrassing, especially to Gov. Palin, to me and I think it should be to every single New Yorker," Assemblyman Dov Hikind, D-Brooklyn, told CBS 2 HD.
Sources say the axes were out for Palin as soon as Sen. Clinton pulled out because she did not want to attend the same event as the Republican vice presidential candidate.
"I have never seen such raw emotion -- on both sides," said someone close to the situation.
The groups sponsoring the rally against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN were reportedly told, "it could jeopardize their tax exempt status" if they had Palin and not Clinton or Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden on hand.
So all politicians were disinvited, most prominently, Palin.
"It's an absolute shame that this has happened," Hikind said. "To threaten organizations … to threaten the Conference of Presidents that if you don't withdraw the invitation to Gov. Palin we're going to look into your tax exempt status … that's McCarthyism."
Another Jewish group tried to step into the breach by inviting Palin to a different protest a day earlier.
"I'm absolutely appalled at the behavior of the Democrats," said Bob Kunst of Defenders.net. "I'm a Democrat and for the first time in my life I'm going to vote Republican. I can't take it anymore."
As for Sen. Clinton, she brushed right past CBS 2 HD's Lou Young when he tried to ask her about the issue on Thursday night.
Lou Young: "Were the organizers of Monday's rally right to depoliticize it?"
Clinton walked past Young, said "Thank you all very much" and started hugging people.
Clinton's people tell CBS 2 HD she intends to make some statement of support for the protestors. She is also expected to attack Ahmadinejad's pro-nuke, anti-Israel stance
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Clinton is a snake, but these Jewish leftist groups...I doubt they'd even stay their execution (literally).