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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lubab on October 02, 2008, 09:49:07 PM
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That was the wrong thing to say.
Bush advisors must have prepped her.
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She said that? Cuz that is not what she really thinks.
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Goodbye Palin. she is not doing well.
She should have said no to the 2 state solution
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Moderator is being surprisingly fair.
Palin is definitely holding her own, when she get's a question she doesn't know...she redirects to something she does know.
She's very energetic and Biden looks old and crabby.
I'm watching here:
http://current.com/topics/88834922_hack_the_debate
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She said that we need to support our friend Israel with a two-state solution.
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Relax, relax. She is just going along with what she has to say. There was no mistaking who she supported in her response to the Israel question. I would not worry about it.
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She said that we need to support our friend, Israel with a two-state solution.
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NO TWO STATE SOLUTION. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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The Americans, like the Israelis, have NO spine whatsoever. If they had any moral fiber they'd come out and say "It is time to close the book on the years of disinformation. There are no "Palestinians". There is no "West Bank". There is no "East Jerusalem" and most certainly no "occupied territories". There has been a failed "Two State Solution" in 1923; The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and since 628AD 51 Mohammedan States. It is time for these States to show their support for their Mohammedan brethren by opening their doors in a true example Humanitarianism. Starting on January 1st 2009, the Arabs living West of the River Jordan will be transfered."
It is all a fraud! They've been trying to sell the Jews down the toilet since 1947. "There are no allies only interests" - Rabbi Meir Kahane Z"L.
Israel has no .......ing spine! Israel makes me SICK to be a Jew! G-d it is infuriating!
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I think she probably figures that the "two state solution" is what is best for Israel. I really do not think there is anything more to it.
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i was booing at that statement.
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Look at it from an outside perspective for just a moment guys. Israel says this is what they want. Is she going to tell Israel "You don't know what you want."
She's in a very difficult position. Right now if she listen's to the Israeli leadership they say the best thing to do to show friendship to Israel is to help this process.
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Look at it from an outside perspective for just a moment guys. Israel says this is what they want. Is she going to tell Israel "You don't know what you want."
She's in a very difficult position. Right now if she listen's to the Israeli leadership they say the best thing to do to show friendship to Israel is to help this process.
What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Such a disgrace. Not one individual with a spine.. Such terrible debasement being passed off as leaders... G-d help us...
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What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.
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Since Israel is supposedly a democracy it would be easy to assume that the leadership represents the Israeli public too.
Didn't most of the Israeli public support the destruction of Gush Katif? Or was that just a lie by the mainstream media?
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Yeah, Lubab. This only confirms that we're in for a lot of trouble even if McCain wins.
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What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.
Perhaps in Tel Aviv.
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I am slightly disappointed about the 2 state solution but she did not mention "palestinians". She mentioned about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. I do not think she would press for 2 state solution if elected. But she could have done a better job regarding Israel.
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Relax. She probably doesn't even know exactly what the two-state solution is. From her Israel speech, it was VERY clear who she supports. I say we give her a break here.
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I was very disappointed at her calling for a fakestinian state as well. It didn't seem like she even knew what she was saying though. I think it was mccain telling her to say that. I have a feeling that Palin wouldn't mind all the muzzies being thrown the hell out of Israel. Unfortunately she had to listen to mccains drek.
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What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.
I agree with CF on this one. I have a couple Israeli friends and they are, IMO, mostly looking for peace at any cost. My friend gives me the impression that the majority of Israelis are leaning to the left, which is why Olmert and Livni are able to mess with Israel. I believe that Israel has been suffering from some serious mental problems because it seems they are seeking national suicide. I pains me when I read that Iranian Potato head Armandhaminjinadad is already gloating because he knows that the path Israel is on is toward its own extinction.
Unless something major happens I dont have a lot of hope. I used to believe that the IDF was the mightiest fighting force in the world. Now it is very embarassing to even think about IDF with their pansy-like performance in the last Lebanon war. I thought IDF would crush the opponent and the sky would pound the enemy. But now the IDF is the laughing stock of the world and only a miracle will change this.
Hashem will show us his wisdom, pray it be tomorrow.
muman613
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I am not bothered either that she said that. It was a loaded question.
and she was forced to give an answer. This issue can be dealt with later.
The biggest and most immediate danger right now that Israel faces is Iran becoming a nuclear power
And her language was very strong about preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons and in preventing a second holocaust.
She was unequivocal about this.
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I was very disappointed at her calling for a fakestinian state as well. It didn't seem like she even knew what she was saying though. I think it was mccain telling her to say that. I have a feeling that Palin wouldn't mind all the muzzies being thrown the hell out of Israel. Unfortunately she had to listen to mccains drek.
Exactly. She figures that "two states" is the pro-Israel solution.
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Totally disagree. Most Israeli's know that peace cannot be attained by giving away land. Most Israelis know that catering to the Arabs is a show of weakness in their culture. This is why they have an adage about never shaking hands with an arab because you'll pull back a stump.
Most Israelis want to throw out the Arabs. The only religious Jews that hold giving away land is the Heredim/Hassidim and the leftist scum. This is the sad fact of the matter. Tovia Singer and Eugene Narrett on Www.IsraelEndTimes.Com speaks of this as well.
....sorry brothers... must disagree with you...
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Most Israelis want to throw out the Arabs. The only religious Jews that hold giving away land is the Heredim/Hassidim and the leftist scum. This is the sad fact of the matter.
The rank and file charedim don't. It's their traitorous political parties that sit in governments of seculars who do give away land, and who do themselves support it (ie Rav Ovadia). But the rank and file haredim often go along with the rabbis, but talk to some of them and see if they think it's a good thing. Most don't, unless you are talking to Naturei Karta or a Satmar (only some Satmar). In fact, many cite it as yet another reason why the evil zionist state is so evil - they threw all those Jews out. They probably think their "leaders" and rabbis are powerless to oppose it so they don't blame their traitorous parties for going along.
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If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.
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If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.
Agree with you 99%! The 1% in disagreement is the fact that there are no "Palestinians".... ahistorical. Predicated on a lie. ;D
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The rank and file charedim don't. It's their traitorous political parties that sit in governments of seculars who do give away land, and who do themselves support it (ie Rav Ovadia). But the rank and file haredim often go along with the rabbis, but talk to some of them and see if they think it's a good thing. Most don't, unless you are talking to Naturei Karta or a Satmar (only some Satmar). In fact, many cite it as yet another reason why the evil zionist state is so evil - they threw all those Jews out. They probably think their "leaders" and rabbis are powerless to oppose it so they don't blame their traitorous parties for going along.
You are largely correct. There is a big difference between "rank and file" Haredim and hardcore NK/Satmar enemies of their own people. The average Haredim just go along with whatever their rebbes and political leaders say, but are not necessarily hardcore about it by any means. With a potent right-wing voice in Israel, I am sure that no small number of them, particularly in the younger generations, would ditch Shas/Agudah and join Hayamin.
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If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.
Agree with you 99%! The 1% in disagreement is the fact that there are no "Palestinians".... ahistorical. Predicated on a lie. ;D
Come ON!!! PLEASE!!!! I dont trust ANY dang politician.. cut her a break, bla bla bla... NO! Hold that statement ACCOUNTABLE! 2 states.... TWO STATES!!!! America- TWO Americas??!!! 2 AMERICAS?!? Ok, lets give up WY for some PEACE, how bout Jersey.. She should have BLASTED them ALL to kingdom COME. 1. Obama IS A MOSLEM. 2. REZKO 3. Ayers 4. His CHRISTIAN friends that say that Israel is the devil 5. DIST 13 on the southside of CHICAGO 6. his voting record 7. Your birth cert-
WHY WAS NONE OF THIS ADDRESSED?!?!?
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I wonder what Chaim will say.
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There is hope and then there is fact. Sadly the facts don't predict hope but something more akin to a modern Hannukah :dance:
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What do you want from Sarah, you can't be holier than Pope.
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She would be supported only because she is the best choice and the best option and nothing else.