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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on November 05, 2008, 12:20:51 AM
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This is certainly a sad day for America. But we must never despair or surrender. Our fight has just begun!
We must work now to build opposition to Barack Hussein Obama and his evil policies. With overwhelming Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress, Obama will be able to pass most of what he wants.
But Obama's policies will fail. Because socialism and "affirmative action" do not work. When Obama's policies fail, we must work to build a backlash against Obama's presidency.
We have some immediate life and death challenges (literally):
a. There will be an Israeli election in several months. When the new Israeli government takes power, we must do everything we can to pressure them to militarily destroy Iran's nuclear bomb-making program even though President Obama will oppose such action. Prime Minister Menachem Begin destroyed Iraq's nuclear program without American permission in 1981. The Israeli government must now do the same to Iran's nuclear terrorist program. Failure to act can led to another holocaust, G-d forbid.
b. We must build resistance to all plans to create an independent PLO-Hamas Muslim terrorist state in the Biblical heartland of Israel. Creating such a state would be national suicide for the tiny Jewish homeland, G-d forbid. Our growing movement in Israel, our support for the heroic Jewish pioneering families who live in Judea and Samaria, and our videos which have attracted many young Israeli viewers will all serve as our means to ensure that any attempt to expel the Jews of Judea and Samaria will be met with vigorous physical resistance. The combination of an Obama presidency and self-hating traitors in charge of Israel can be lethal for the Jewish state unless we build a mass movement quickly.
c. In America, I believe that we must attempt to turn as many Americans against Obama as possible. If the American people turn against Obama's policies, he might become an unpopular, ineffective one-term president.
d. I believe that we should be supporting Governor Sarah Palin for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. A grassroots effort on her behalf will be launched by conservative activists who are meeting in Washington this week. I think JTF should support that effort.
We should try our best to turn this bad news into good news. We should try to use Obama's presidency to attract large numbers of real conservatives to our movement.
With G-d's help, we can still make a difference.
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I have a sick feeling in my stomach Chaim, I tried I really did I worked so hard and do feel like some how it wasn't hard enough and failed somewhere. I did my best. But we fight and fight hard for the next 4 years and we become a thorn on this animal's side
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Chaim does this mean Jews Against Obama will continue as an organization? I'm looking forward to undermining Obama in any legal way we can.
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I think C is the best idea so far. I'm already doing it! (the other ideas are good too.)
BTW I tried to log onto StørmFrønt just to see what they're saying about this mess...their server is being overloaded...a LOT of ppl will join their movement now too! :'(
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Thank you Chaim.
I can't believe this has happened in my lifetime. Americans have really become stupid.
I pledge that I will donate everything I can to help the Jews of Judea and Samaria.
This will be the next critical fight.
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Chaim does this mean Jews Against Obama will continue as an organization? I'm looking forward to undermining Obama in any legal way we can.
Chaim, I vote YES for this idea!!! We MUST keep this forum open to mobilize and share ideas as to how to begin NOW in educating people against Obama (do NOT call him "president", do not give him that honor...he probably doesn't deserve it anyway since he's a foreigner).
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Chaim, you are so right about a grassroots movement for Mrs. Palin. She is the future of the GOP. We must do what was done with Goldwater in 1964 and Reagan in 1980. And we must start NOW!
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:dance: yes, yes...
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Chaim I am really sick to my stomach I am going to flood You Tube with many Videos a day at least 3 daily. I am discusted. America will get what you ask for and you have asked for failed policies and A Europian tax system. How could American become so stupid this Shmuck thinks there are 57 states and doesn't know the difference between 3 and 10,000.
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:dance: yes, yes...
What??
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:dance: yes, yes...
What??
I think she is agreeing with RanterMaximus post
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I warned people 10 years ago, and I was called a racist and extremist,, now they are eating a big turd sandwich. I guess I knew something ugly was coming just like Chaim did and no one listened to him or Kahane
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I also feel terrible tonight... even though it was an expected outcome, it's always a though pill to swallow.
However, our mission has only yet begun. JTF will survive this and become even bigger and stonger, G-d willing!
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I did what I could, I played a large role in gun politics to sway gun owners to voting against Obama, I donated a lot of money to NRA which was involved in a very large campaign to get voters to vote mccain and exposing obamas policies, unfortunately I have failed.
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The KKK membership is going to get really big soon.
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Chaim, I pray that the "right wing" in Israel takes full power in the coming elections there. I hope the only thing that Kadima gets is malignant cancer spreading through all their members. Even though the "right" in Israel is phony, at least with them we have a shot. This is a sad day for all righteous people.
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:dance: yes, yes...
What??
I was agreeing with what Chaim said in the OP....especially the very last line...!
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I can't understand why you guys wanna support Palin. She's the biggest factor that caused McCain the election. She was a horrific choice.
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America's finished.
Time to lay down and take what's coming.
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I agree. I have no optimism whatsoever, unlike others. I think this was a horrible disaster, and now America is going to suffer real pain - which will trickle down to EVERYONE. Nobody is going to escape it. People are so stupid, thinking that Obama is a great savior for our nation, a Superman who can fix all of our problems. The majority of the country bought into it, like stupid sheep, falling for this mantra of "change." I think America is doomed, cursed, utterly hopeless.
Get your guns NOW because Obama and Biden WILL ban them. With a Dem majority in both houses, there's nothing stopping them now. We'll have British and French-style gun laws soon (which the criminals will, as always, ignore) and you and your family will be vulnerable to the hordes of savages without protection. Get it while you still can or you WILL BE SORRY.
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I can't understand why you guys wanna support Palin. She's the biggest factor that caused McCain the election. She was a horrific choice.
Palin did a better job than Biden.
When Biden was interviewed by a reporter more than a week ago, he didn't want to answer the questions and avoided doing so. Most media sources didn't report about the interview.
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The media defined her before she could define herself.
No Republican should ever, EVER go on that stupid SNL show. Chevy Chase admitted that he was hoping his impressions would hurt Ford and elect Carter. SNL writers came out in force to attack Chase's statement because he exposed them for who and what they are. I think the campaign should have gone on talk radio and attacked the media bias wherever they possible could.
That message would eventually stick.
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First, I think we have to do in Israel what JDL did for the Soviet Jews. We have to get Jews in Israel to stop working and rally and protest and sit down on Dizengoff Street and block traffic and demand the bombing of Iran. That has got to be the first step. There is no point in even doing anything else until Iran's nuclear facilities are bombed.
Once this happens, there will be plenty of other things to keep us busy, but this has got to be the first thing. We might want to arrange some sort of protest in America, while Bush is still in office. This is the last, best, chance we have to convince either the US or Israeli Airforce to take action.
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If John McCain would have run the type of aggressive campaign that Gov. Sarah Palin seemed to have preferred, the outcome of this election could easily have been different. Instead, the McCain campaign in essence publicly conceded the State of Michigan AND they only brought up two of Barack Hussein Obama's associations- William Ayers and Rashid Khalidi. The latter not until the last few days of the campaign. The politically correct ( so called honorable ) approach McCain took was a major factor in this election ending up with horrific results. McCain should have been going after Obama's associations even during the time that Obama was trying to hold on to the Democrat Nomination, in his battle with Hillary Clinton.
Even with the media bias against Gov. Palin, she was an asset to the ticket. The crowd sizes for Gov. Palin, compared to Senator McCain were very noticeably different. The reason I and many others made a donation to the McCain campaign is because he chose Gov. Palin as his running mate.
I plan on supporting Gov. Palin in the 2012 Presidential race, if she decides to run for the Presidency. Her values, record of accomplishment, and leadership are extraordinary. Though my confidence in the American voting public is extremely low ( its never been lower ) and they could easily reject Gov. Palin's attempt at the Presidency, I can't imagine supporting anyone else as long she remains in the race. G-d Bless Sarah Palin and her family.
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The majority of American Jews deserve the hell they have now created for themselves.
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I can't understand why you guys wanna support Palin. She's the biggest factor that caused McCain the election. She was a horrific choice.
100% Wrong! You are believing the BS that the media is feeding you. W/o Palin he would not have had the conservative base and it would have been a humiliating defeat.
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Shalom,
It is indeed a sad day here. And I too have been unable to sleep for the past two days. I am thinking about ways to keep the fight going against the slide towards socialism and economic paralysis. My visions of the next four years are bleak as I am going to be paying the bulk of Obamas tax increases. We must do what we can to frustrate the Obama administration. This certainly is not an easy task as I expect Obama to be given a free ride by the media for at least a year.
We are the righteous wind behind Obamas back and we will expose him for the fraud he is. I think we should start considering more secure communication methods in case our Constitutional speech rights are impeded by the Obama administration. In this day and age whomever controls the communication media controls the masses. It amazes me that today I cannot fathom a world without internet and digital cable. These media are so easily controlled by government and private enterprise.
Our lives are a constant struggle. We struggle with our faith and we struggle with choices of right and wrong. Our struggles make us who we are and we are forged by the events of the world. There is a reason things have happened this way. I pray that all of us are able to see this through and understand the goodness which Hashem reveals in such mysterious ways.
muman613
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Shalom,
It is indeed a sad day here. And I too have been unable to sleep for the past two days. I am thinking about ways to keep the fight going against the slide towards socialism and economic paralysis. My visions of the next four years are bleak as I am going to be paying the bulk of Obamas tax increases. We must do what we can to frustrate the Obama administration. This certainly is not an easy task as I expect Obama to be given a free ride by the media for at least a year.
We are the righteous wind behind Obamas back and we will expose him for the fraud he is. I think we should start considering more secure communication methods in case our Constitutional speech rights are impeded by the Obama administration. In this day and age whomever controls the communication media controls the masses. It amazes me that today I cannot fathom a world without internet and digital cable. These media are so easily controlled by government and private enterprise.
Our lives are a constant struggle. We struggle with our faith and we struggle with choices of right and wrong. Our struggles make us who we are and we are forged by the events of the world. There is a reason things have happened this way. I pray that all of us are able to see this through and understand the goodness which Hashem reveals in such mysterious ways.
muman613
At least you guys in CA voted against gay marriage!!!!
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Shalom,
It is indeed a sad day here. And I too have been unable to sleep for the past two days. I am thinking about ways to keep the fight going against the slide towards socialism and economic paralysis. My visions of the next four years are bleak as I am going to be paying the bulk of Obamas tax increases. We must do what we can to frustrate the Obama administration. This certainly is not an easy task as I expect Obama to be given a free ride by the media for at least a year.
We are the righteous wind behind Obamas back and we will expose him for the fraud he is. I think we should start considering more secure communication methods in case our Constitutional speech rights are impeded by the Obama administration. In this day and age whomever controls the communication media controls the masses. It amazes me that today I cannot fathom a world without internet and digital cable. These media are so easily controlled by government and private enterprise.
Our lives are a constant struggle. We struggle with our faith and we struggle with choices of right and wrong. Our struggles make us who we are and we are forged by the events of the world. There is a reason things have happened this way. I pray that all of us are able to see this through and understand the goodness which Hashem reveals in such mysterious ways.
muman613
At least you guys in CA voted against gay marriage!!!!
It's a ray of light in a sea of black clouds.
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If the media asked Obama 1/4 the amount that Palin was questined we would not be here. It's the Meida's fault and McCain has filed a compalint with the Meida of this counrty
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David, I certainly agree with you that the media is the prime reason why Barack Hussein Obama was elected President of the United States. They helped set the stage for this horrible outcome.
Having said that, the " people " who voted for Obama, who were even somewhat aware of his ultra radical background, , and have the ability comprehend info that's presented to them, shouldn't get a free pass. W/o them, Obamination couldn't have become a reality, even with the evil media being extremely biased.
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Well having that said there are way too many people that voted for him because he had a D next to his name. I could talk to anyone on the left and they would say that he is the Democat so they will vote for him
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Sad day for this country. Watch the gas prices go back to $4.50/gallon now.
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I don't agree that there was NO mention of Obama's extremism. There was a lot of rumbling and rumors that the Establishment media could not fully suppress. EVERYBODY got inklings that this guy was major bad news, and they easily could have checked-up on it for themselves. They obviously did not care, and I'm not even sure that Chaim's campaign strategy would have worked on this stubborn nation so determined to have a messiah.
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How could American become so stupid this Shmuck thinks there are 57 states
He meant 57 Muslim states.
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My French master, in the early 60's, commenting on the newly independent African states, said that people should listen for themselves to the loquaciousness of their leaders, so as to know for sure that those countries couldn't possibly fail.
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I am so depressed and mortified.
On the Topix forums, the Obama supporters were saying to the McCain supporters "Can't you guys come up with any real arguments rather than just calling Obama a socialist?"
I feel like all my blogging on the two sites I run has been for nothing. I have yet to check the comments on "Jews Against Obama." On my other blog, some woman from Little Falls NY commented about how glad she was for an Obama victory.
This morning on the subway, there was an AIDS infested schvartza begging for money. I was tempted to yell out "Don't worry. Obama will support you."
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Now obama will give palestine and kashmir to muslims.You guys just wait and see what happens china,russia as we all know give weapons to musilm countries now just imgine obama giving nukes to muslims plus putting embargo on israel and india to crush our economies.I hate all the indian americans who voted for obama >:( :'( >:( :'( >:(
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I sincerely want to tell everyone, this happened to wake America up. God is displeased with people lacking faith, and pulling away from him, abortions, gay marriages, trying to divide Jerusalem, living for material possessions and wordly ideas, he wants our focus on him.
Yes we should strive for conservative candidates who represent our faith and goals. We have to support Israel, and possibly Obama will listen to those who are earnest with him.
Kim Clement, on www.Elijahlist.com predicted the US would elect Obama by deceit, and trickery, but that after he comes into office, his heart will change. Half of this prophecy has come true. Focus on being repentent, loving your families, being productive, help others, be kind, show you have faith. I am firmly convinced of everything scripture tells us. We are very close to the One world government predicted in the bible, and the Rise of the Anti-Christ, from the Roman Empire, who crucified Christ.
I think everyone on this website has been a comfort to one another. We surely do not want to give up our support, and sharing ideas, Do we?
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Chaim... I started another thread about Strormfront. WE NEED TO KEEP YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE MINDS AWAY FROM THERE.
We need JTF.org to be more anti-black nationalist... like it used to be.... so that they will come HERE and not THERE.
An Average Lower-Class Patriotic White Gentile is very disillusioned right now... and we cant let them be prayed upon by the stupidity of David Duke.
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You should be very carefull because this election proves that freedom is not going to be maintained with the left in the white house, congress,media etc. See what is happening in Israel.
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Chaim... I started another thread about Strormfront. WE NEED TO KEEP YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE MINDS AWAY FROM THERE.
We need JTF.org to be more anti-black nationalist... like it used to be.... so that they will come HERE and not THERE.
An Average Lower-Class Patriotic White Gentile is very disillusioned right now... and we cant let them be prayed upon by the stupidity of David Duke.
Yes, indeed.
Bring back the old JTF!
No more political correctness!!
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Since his election i feel hatred towards america
in a way im ashamed to be part of a country that is lead by someone named hussein.
it's just disgusting.
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We have a lot of work to do here at JTF. This is only the begining of a great organization.
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I can't understand why you guys wanna support Palin. She's the biggest factor that caused McCain the election. She was a horrific choice.
100% Wrong! You are believing the BS that the media is feeding you. W/o Palin he would not have had the conservative base and it would have been a humiliating defeat.
I would never vote for Obama, but Palin motivated me to vote and do what I could. I know she will not only protect the Jews but the Christian values.
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Chaim... I started another thread about Strormfront. WE NEED TO KEEP YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE MINDS AWAY FROM THERE.
We need JTF.org to be more anti-black nationalist... like it used to be.... so that they will come HERE and not THERE.
An Average Lower-Class Patriotic White Gentile is very disillusioned right now... and we cant let them be prayed upon by the stupidity of David Duke.
OLD impressionable minds too. :o
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Great ideas Chaim!
I believe before 2010 the "real change" is going to come to America. For the past 7 years there were not terrorist attacks. But under this communist-muslim president BHO Americans will experience frequent terrorist attacks, blowing up of bridges, simultaneous bomb blasts in different hotel rooms in major cities, trains and buses getting blown up... and many more.
So we have to identify the vulnerable Democratic senate races up for election in 2010 and start campaigning against the incumbent Democrats.
Also we need to educate people about socialism, communism, spending and other liberal agendas...
By 2010 we need to shift the Senate to the right!!!
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If Obama carries out his plans and leads the country into a wrong direction with all kinds of serious consequences then it might be a big chance for JTF.
We should monitor what he does and look closely at the effects of his actions. If for example black crime goes up significantly then it will be our job the create videos explaining the reasons behind it. More importantly we should provide the links to past pre-election videos where Chaim predicted the negative consequences his precidency would have. That will make many people scratch their head and could possibly be a big boost for us.
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Is anyone keeping track of who he is appointing to his cabinet?
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We will not be silent. I am sick and tired of the "silent majority."