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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on November 13, 2008, 02:32:56 PM
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Here's a refined Scriabin poll on the subject...re-vote
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Here's a refined Scriabin poll on the subject...re-vote
I have noticed Chaim's and JTF's tone to lighten up on some subjects. I like it..the movement is less misunderstood and very much more viable than it used to be in my opinion. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy the harsher language of the past..but it was, for me, much more for entertainment and I don't mind that either since I know what JTF and CHaim are really about...we are a viable organization.
There are other things that are said that are quite harsh and extreme, in my opinion...but I don't think it needs to change unless Chaim feels it needs to be changed. This movement came to be due to its controversy...If Chaim feels it needs to be this to set it apart from the rest of the movements,then all the power to him.
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I am conflicted on this one. I understand where Chaim is coming from. But, his toning it down will not change the minds of JTF's enemies. I say fight fire with fire.
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"Yes, I hate it," is not an objective answer.
Why not just, 'yes'.
It is possible to think that Chaim has changed his tone without "hating it".
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Regardless, the weekly Ask JTF are still very informative and insightful, even if Chaim doesn't talk about his dog, take out food, or turn the final hour over to a guest host. :)
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I haven't been arounf here for five years, I think I've been following JTF for the last 3 years and in that time JTF and Chaim's programs have changed considerably. I think the old cable programs had a NY underground appeal. The last few months Chaim has almost ceased doing English videos. The Hebrew videos are clearly Israel-centric, they are not politically correct at all.
I also notice Chaim used to speak faster and with more fury in the old days. I think speaking is an art and one can't expect the artist to keep producing the same thing over and over again. To me it seems like a good idea to keep doing regular English programs dealing with American themes. One weekly or even biweekly show might keep a a growing crowd of regular audience hooked up to these shows and eventually make new JTFers.
P.S I want to vote "Yes and I'm ambiguous about this" or just "Yes".
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Actually.... I wasnt thinking of the last 5 to 10 years.... I was thinking the last year.
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I think Chaim has gotten better over the last year and a half since I have been listining to him. And I think that is the way it needs to be if we are going to attract people from the media to our movement
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I really cant tell.
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The New Change that JTF has employed is only for the Better... for all those who think otherwise get 'Real!'
A Mass Movement in this country will not be formed if you insult a majority of its citizens and call for extreme actions regarding their co-existence... If you want to make fun of people and not give Real solutions to these problems than I'd suggest you form a support group and talk amongst yourselves and see how far it will take you...
I was never a big fan of making fun of certain ethnic groups even though I KNOW how much of a burden they are to society... By offering alternative media and information we can successfully transform ignorant and naive people into productive members of society, most people are brainwashed by TV and newspapers into being what they are, non productive. This process we are undertaking might be long but it's worth it... Just look at the amount of publicity JTF has received in the past 2 years, it can only get better and we must take advantage of this period in time especially with Barack Hussein Obama ascending upon the White House!
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I think that the ability to speak well and clearly about a topic is one of the most difficult skills to master.
Overall, I think that there are ways to be "correct" in your speech and still present a very strong point of view. Look at the Dalhi Lama. He is very clear in his message, despite having many people attacking him. I think that this is why he has had such staying power and has had an impact on the world,
This topic also brings to mind a wonderfull moment in the origanal Star Trek TV show,,,
Lazarus "how can you not believe me , you are being a fool"
Spock "I have simply examined all of the relevant information and come to the logical conclusion that you are, in fact, a Liar"
Star Trek the Origanal series "The Alternative Factor"
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This poll is more articulate than scriabin's which was much more vague.