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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ItalianZionist on November 26, 2008, 08:12:50 PM
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You guys are among the most intelligent people I've come across and I needed your opinions:
I just got a new job and my "trainer" told my manager that I ask her too many questions (and the same ques).......My manager told me that she's there to answer ques and pretty much took my side. She does get aggravated when I ask her questions at times, but I don't want to tell my manager(since I'm new, I don't want to look like a complainer). People tell me that my "trainer" wants other workers to look bad. She ...It's a Union job, finance related, and this incident just turned me off..Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I don't even want to look at this creature when I go to work.
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I curse at them
Tell them to leave me the hell alone
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Smile alot, even when not asking a question.
Tell this person some jokes to get them to lighten up a bit.
Maybe their nerves are shot so they get irritated/impatient alot.
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Maybe I am lucky but my boss, although he complains and scowls at me from time to time for a variety of reasons, is basically a good guy. When I started here it used to bother me and I felt like he was 'picking' on me. But I realized if I just kept my cool and not let it bother me that my Boss will not hold a grudge against me. I have also seen him deal with other co-workers in a similar way, so it is not just his reaction to me... Did I say that my Boss is a great guy ;)
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I curse at them
Tell them to leave me the hell alone
my first instinct
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F him up!
No, just kidding. Just do what u gotta do, and ignore him(her). Dont be unnecessarily aggressive, but dont show weakness and be shown as a push over.
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F him up!
No, just kidding. Just do what u gotta do, and ignore him(her). Dont be unnecessarily aggressive, but dont show weakness and be shown as a push over.
best advice..thnx Tzvi
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i ignore them
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i ignore them
that's good too..thx Dan
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Take notes as often as you can so you don't have to ask the same questions over again. Otherwise, I agree with Tzvi. Don't let anyone aggravate you. (I know it's easier said than done.)
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She's attracted to you, and wants you to ask her out. She just doesn't know how to ask. :teach:
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You guys are among the most intelligent people I've come across and I needed your opinions:
I just got a new job and my "trainer" told my manager that I ask her too many questions (and the same ques).......My manager told me that she's there to answer ques and pretty much took my side. She does get aggravated when I ask her questions at times, but I don't want to tell my manager(since I'm new, I don't want to look like a complainer). People tell me that my "trainer" wants other workers to look bad. She ...It's a Union job, finance related, and this incident just turned me off..Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I don't even want to look at this creature when I go to work.
this looks like that much of a problem..
if she gets aggravated and you don't like her, then that's good!!!!
it really doesn't matter much if she gets aggravated. (it only matters if the manager thinks you are asking too many questions, and that she shouldn't have to be bothered so much. You should keep notes of generally of what you asked her and be able to justify it. So if she does claim that, you can respond with facts)
from the looks of things, she is getting herself into a problem if she refuses to do her job! she is also making herself look bad..
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8;)
Best analogy of the situation yet!
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She's attracted to you, and wants you to ask her out. She just doesn't know how to ask. :teach:
She looks like a cross between Michael Moore and Ed Koch
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She's attracted to you, and wants you to ask her out. She just doesn't know how to ask. :teach:
She looks like a cross between Michael Moore and Ed Koch
Do like the other poster said then: Document everything and present when confronted. :-[ This will be the smartest way, seriously.
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Pull out a cigar. Light it. Take a drag. Look at them. Then blow smoke in their face.
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Try to use the situation as a way to gain inner strenght by being better than her and not reacting. Pray for guideance when she starts "pushing your buttons"
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Go all Mafia on the person :dance:
(http://www.anacondasports.com/wcsstore/anaconda10/images/125p-jg_lge.jpg)
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Try to use the situation as a way to gain inner strenght by being better than her and not reacting. Pray for guideance when she starts "pushing your buttons"
You talk as if she is [censored] on him and he is meant to be silent and let it pass. That is a very non kahanist attitude.
ItalianZionist said she is just getting agitated. That is fine, let her get agitated.
I don't see why if she gets agitated, it should push ItalianZionist's buttons. Unless he seeks nice relationships with everybody. If somebody is a bad person then you don't have to seek peace with them.. This is all very unkahanist behaviour.
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Go all Mafia on the person
A woman that looks like a man, is still a woman..Or rather, she's not a man.
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Go all Mafia on the person
A woman that looks like a man, is still a woman..Or rather, she's not a man.
She is a person though, right? :laugh:
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Try to use the situation as a way to gain inner strenght by being better than her and not reacting. Pray for guideance when she starts "pushing your buttons"
You talk as if she is [censored] on him and he is meant to be silent and let it pass. That is a very non kahanist attitude.
ItalianZionist said she is just getting agitated. That is fine, let her get agitated.
I don't see why if she gets agitated, it should push ItalianZionist's buttons. Unless he seeks nice relationships with everybody. If somebody is a bad person then you don't have to seek peace with them.. This is all very unkahanist behaviour.
I think that in a work situation you must be able to get along with your co-workers. It is one thing to not associate with them in social situations. I don't do anything social with the people I work with. But I do get along with them and they rely on me for my contribution to the project. Sometimes my bosses get a little attitude but for the most part I know that they are only human. Sometimes I take things the wrong way and I will usually apologize if I did something wrong.
I dont think that being dismissive or confrontational in work situations {professional} is a good strategy. Standing up for your principles is always important. About a year ago I was forced to accept a change in the Operating System our group used. For years we used RedHat Linux and now, for some reason, my boss wanted us all to switch over to Ubuntu. This decision REALLY [censored] me OFF because I was not consulted. It also greatly affected my projects because I am responsible for many of the scripts which are used to build the project. This change required me to re-write a chunk of scripts and re-build my debuggers and tools to work in the new OS. I told my boss I was very unhappy with the decision and I was almost inclined to walk off the job because I felt dishonored. But I grabbed onto Ubuntu linux, installed it on my home machines, and learned all there was to know about Ubuntu linux. My boss is very happy now with my performance in supporting the migration to the new OS. All in all I learned from this experience.
Stand strong for important principles but be flexible with people. I generally give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Even though I work with people of all faiths and colors I believe that we all share the desire for the product to be the best video decoder chip made.
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You guys are among the most intelligent people I've come across and I needed your opinions:
I just got a new job and my "trainer" told my manager that I ask her too many questions (and the same ques).......My manager told me that she's there to answer ques and pretty much took my side. She does get aggravated when I ask her questions at times, but I don't want to tell my manager(since I'm new, I don't want to look like a complainer). People tell me that my "trainer" wants other workers to look bad. She ...It's a Union job, finance related, and this incident just turned me off..Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I don't even want to look at this creature when I go to work.
Your manager gave you the answer to this whole issue. The trainer is there to answer your questions. Don't be put off by her seeming to get aggravated when you ask a question she is getting paid to train people so make he do her job and ask away. Keep some notes so you have some of the procedures down but don't let her brow beat you into not asking about something now and then paying the price for it at a later time when the boss thinks your fully trained. I sounds like your boss knows what the story is here so learn what you can from this ill mannered beast that's training you and then you will be in a better position to tell her to bug off. Don't complain to the manager it won't go over well. If the manager asks you something about this just smile and say so and so gets slightly steamed because I like to ask questions. Be sure to tell the manager its because you want to be able to learn all you can now and not ask questions later. I do labor relations in a union setting and I wish all my problems were this simple. The union factor can be a positive thing not all union shops are bad. You will be fine don't let coworkers like this get to you get what you can from her and ignore her attitude.
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Go all Mafia on the person :dance:
(http://www.anacondasports.com/wcsstore/anaconda10/images/125p-jg_lge.jpg)
"What's the matter with you Santino? I think your brain's going soft from all that carnal you play with that young girl. Never tell anyone outside the family what you're thinking again!"
Ay yo, AmericanHero: There is NO Mafia! ;)
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Go all Mafia on the person
A woman that looks like a man, is still a woman..Or rather, she's not a man.
She is a person though, right? :laugh:
That depends on her personality ;-)
Strictly speaking, yes. But if that implies human rights, then not necessarily! A real bad guy certainly has no rights.
I don't think being a person carries any implications as to how they should be treated. They could be bad ,good, male, female, logical, illogical.
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Take a scolopendra, put it in a jar and dry it in the sun (or in the microwave). Then place it in a blender and make a powder. Put some of the powder in your coworker's java when she is not looking, or may be mix it with her sugar stash. This should calm her down for sure. But if she's Jewish you'd have to think of something else cause scolopendra is strictly non-kosher.
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Try to use the situation as a way to gain inner strenght by being better than her and not reacting. Pray for guideance when she starts "pushing your buttons"
You talk as if she is [censored] on him and he is meant to be silent and let it pass. That is a very non kahanist attitude.
ItalianZionist said she is just getting agitated. That is fine, let her get agitated.
I don't see why if she gets agitated, it should push ItalianZionist's buttons. Unless he seeks nice relationships with everybody. If somebody is a bad person then you don't have to seek peace with them.. This is all very unkahanist behaviour.
The problem is that as a trainer, she gives feedback to my manager...and with her disposition, it may be negative feedback..Other workers have told me that she wants to make the other workers look bad so that she can look like the "best" worker.
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Try to use the situation as a way to gain inner strenght by being better than her and not reacting. Pray for guideance when she starts "pushing your buttons"
You talk as if she is [censored] on him and he is meant to be silent and let it pass. That is a very non kahanist attitude.
ItalianZionist said she is just getting agitated. That is fine, let her get agitated.
I don't see why if she gets agitated, it should push ItalianZionist's buttons. Unless he seeks nice relationships with everybody. If somebody is a bad person then you don't have to seek peace with them.. This is all very unkahanist behaviour.
The problem is that as a trainer, she gives feedback to my manager...and with her disposition, it may be negative feedback..Other workers have told me that she wants to make the other workers look bad so that she can look like the "best" worker.
is there equal likelyhood that she will give negative feedback regarding other workers too?
If speaking to the manager, you could pick the safer option and instead of talking of a problem with her, take the unassertive route and act like you are unsure whether you can ask questions (personalise it a bit so he can see you have some grasp of the thing and are thinking about a certain area in an intelligent way). As part of that lack of boldness, only discuss it if he asks you how things are going. Perhaps not unassertive, but at least, it's not bold..
Since you are in the position of learner, I don't think appearing a bit unassertive is such a problem.. And you certainly won't look like a complainer. If you only bring it up if he asks you how things are going, and then you bring up the issue like that.
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Refer to this thread Northwest
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Think happy thoughts!
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Refer to this thread Northwest
Cool. Forgot about this one!
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Thanks. Some really great ideas. I really believe the one lady who is the woman's boss is an evil person. I've worked with hundreds of people over the last few years and never had even a small problem. I know some other people I work with complained about them. I hate when I try to be nice and someone just acts like you don't exist or is outright hostile. The problem is that the one woman I have a problem with is two steps above mine in a different area. I thank G-D that she's not my boss. :yuck: :yuck:
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You guys are among the most intelligent people I've come across and I needed your opinions:
I just got a new job and my "trainer" told my manager that I ask her too many questions (and the same ques).......My manager told me that she's there to answer ques and pretty much took my side. She does get aggravated when I ask her questions at times, but I don't want to tell my manager(since I'm new, I don't want to look like a complainer). People tell me that my "trainer" wants other workers to look bad. She ...It's a Union job, finance related, and this incident just turned me off..Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I don't even want to look at this creature when I go to work.
What's with some trainers too? Some of them are he worst human beings ever. I've worked in many Northwest companies where there are these hideous, World of Warcraft playing, morbidly obese man haters who haven't seen the sun since the Carter Administration, or gay guys with skater shirts who hate anyone who doesn't hang out in bath houses.