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Title: Watch this video!
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 30, 2008, 12:44:18 AM
An ex-Muslim woman discussing with a Muslim. I found it a year ago. It's puzzles me that she speaks Arabic, and I understand very very little Hebrew, but I can understand some words. Is Arabic so similar to Hebrew? Anyway I have gussed the meaning of very unknown non-related languages by comparing with Hebrew roots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SP-YcsOSco
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: q_q_ on November 30, 2008, 01:11:05 AM
You'll save people alot of bother if you write in the subject "Arabic/Hebrew"

So people not fluent will know not to bother to click. (unless perhaps there are sufficient replies to read)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: muman613 on November 30, 2008, 01:15:15 AM
I am not an expert but from my experience there are a lot of similar words in Hebrew and Arabic.

Some examples I know:

Eved = Abd = Servant
Shalom = Salam = Peace
Rachaman = Rachem = Mercy

I am sure I can think of some more... But thats enough for this example...


(http://img26.exs.cx/img26/2245/thumbsup8de.gif) muman613

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic

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Aramaic is a Semitic language with a 3,000-year history. It has been the language of administration of empires and the language of divine worship. It is the original language of large sections of the biblical books of Daniel and Ezra, and is the main language of the Talmud and Zohar. Aramaic was the native language of Jesus (see Aramaic of Jesus).[3] Modern Aramaic is spoken today as a first language by numerous, scattered communities, most significantly by the Assyrians. The language is considered to be endangered.[4]

Aramaic's long history and diverse and widespread use has led to the development of many divergent varieties, or dialects, of the language. Thus, there is no one Aramaic language, but each time and place has had its own variety.

Aramaic belongs to the Afro-Asiatic language family. Within that diverse family, it belongs to the Semitic subfamily. Aramaic is a part of the Northwest Semitic group of languages, which also includes the Canaanite languages (such as Hebrew). It is also related to Arabic, being part of the more diverse Central Semitic languages; one possible source for the Arabic alphabet is Nabataean Aramaic script.
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: q_q_ on November 30, 2008, 01:19:46 AM
I am not an expert but from my experience there are a lot of similar words in Hebrew and Arabic.

Some examples I know:

Eved = Abd = Servant
Shalom = Salam = Peace
Rachaman = Rachem = Mercy

I am sure I can think of some more... But thats enough for this example...
<snip>


Holy Mackeral, you've just made an amazing discovery

Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: muman613 on November 30, 2008, 01:21:01 AM
I am not an expert but from my experience there are a lot of similar words in Hebrew and Arabic.

Some examples I know:

Eved = Abd = Servant
Shalom = Salam = Peace
Rachaman = Rachem = Mercy

I am sure I can think of some more... But thats enough for this example...
<snip>


Holy Mackeral, you've just made an amazing discovery



q_q, you forgot the <sarc> tag !
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: q_q_ on November 30, 2008, 01:23:08 AM
I almost put it in, but chose not to, because it was obvious and because if anybody didn't notice then it's all the more amusing, and because I didn't want to confuse anybody with XML !

Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: muman613 on November 30, 2008, 01:24:37 AM
I almost put it in, but chose not to, because it was obvious and because if anybody didn't notice then it's all the more amusing, and because I didn't want to confuse anybody with XML !



 :::D
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 30, 2008, 01:31:56 AM
I remembered to search for that video because I used some of her arguments this morning in my quarrell with the Algerian Muslim In Skype. I just wanted to watch it again.
And yes, Semitic Languages are similar. In the video I found the word she uses for "Church" sounds similar to Kness. "Fifteen million" sounds similar to Chamesh assar". "between" sounds like Bein, and so on.
But I have also found Hebrew roots in non-Semitic languages. For example the Germanic prefix "be" in English which is equivalent to "in" like in beloved, befriend.... and also in some German Languages sounds like Hebrew preposition "be".
Earth/ Eretz. Cup, Capture, Accept/ Kaph (hand, palm). Alto (high in Spanish)/Al, Alyiah, Oleh.
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: q_q_ on November 30, 2008, 01:55:15 AM
Raul . I didn't realise you could do something like this..

Quote from: Raul
""An ex-Muslim woman discussing with a Muslim. I found it a year ago. It's puzzles me that she speaks Arabic, and I understand very very little Hebrew, but I can understand some words. Is Arabic so similar to Hebrew? Anyway I have gussed the meaning of very unknown non-related languages by comparing with Hebrew roots.""

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SP-YcsOSco

The video is Wafa Sultan, most of us have seen it. You could have said so in the description.  And (obviously, it being that MEMRI video) it has English subtitles. You didn't suggest any of that.

You made it look like this is only relevant to those fluent in hebrew, and that it wasn't an English thing..

a minor point - I'm not sure that she really identifies herself as an "ex muslim". I recall her not arguing when a westerner described her as a muslim in an interview -after- that.  I think it's obvious that she is not a muslim.


Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 30, 2008, 02:02:04 AM
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Raul . I didn't realise you could do something like this..

Something like what?

Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: q_q_ on November 30, 2008, 02:29:08 AM
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Raul . I didn't realise you could do something like this..

Something like what?



not describing the video clearly.

so many people don't click, thinking it is all hebrew/arabic. Or do click and see they had already seen it.