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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 20, 2008, 06:49:23 PM

Title: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 20, 2008, 06:49:23 PM
Anyone can help me? I need non-Islamic sources and documents about destruction and assasination of entire Jewish and other minorities' communities in Arabia by Islam during Mohammad's life. Of course I don't doubt that genocide did actually occur, but it would be unthinkable to use the Koran to prove it. It would be giving it some authority!!!
But if we can collect other historic non-Islamic documents about that genocide, I'd like to make a web site about it. I assume even Leftists would not dare to oppose research and commemoration of that massacre, and it would make Muslims helpless and furious.
Title: Re: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: zachor_ve_kavod on December 20, 2008, 07:23:28 PM
Check out:   http://www.prophetofdoom.net/  He's got some pretty good sources.

Also look online to see if you can find Ibn Ishaq's biography of Mohammed.

Also, read the Hadiths (biography of Mohammed).
Title: Re: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: Dnew on December 20, 2008, 07:51:02 PM
Mohammed is a murderer.
The father of all evil.
Title: Re: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: schrodinger's cat on December 20, 2008, 08:06:03 PM
There were Jews in Medina who were there for hundreds of years before Muhammad (Yimach Shmo Vezichro).  He expelled and killed them after they wouldn't recognize him as a prophet.
I don't believe there were Jews in mecca.
Title: Re: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 20, 2008, 08:37:33 PM
There were Jews in Medina who were there for hundreds of years before Muhammad (Yimach Shmo Vezichro).  He expelled and killed them after they wouldn't recognize him as a prophet.
I don't believe there were Jews in mecca.

I heard about Jews in Mecca who were assasinated and also some sold as slaves. I have even heard that Muhammad made a parody of Jewish law about Hallachot regarding war with hostile cities outside Eretz Israel. Islamic sources use to say "Jews of Mecca" when explaining hate verses, so as to imply that anti-Semite verses only refer to that particualr "war" and hide the fact that they hate all Jews.
Now, if you have source about a massacre in Medina, it would help very much. Especially if not written by Arabs. The reason is that all hate and massacres in the Hadith is already widely known. Arabs approve it, and non-Muslims either do not believe in it or prefer to act if they don't. It would also be helpfull to find documents about the destruction of other minorities.
Let's see... we have commemorations of nearly all genocides known in history. If this is accepted as a historical fact, we should also recognise the non-Muslim genocide in Arabia.
The great difference is that all other massacres were either not commited in the name of religion, or if done on behalf of religion, they were not historically endorsed by any prophet or prohet pretender. If Muhammad is historically recognised as guilty of genocide, it would render Islam officially equal to Nazism.
Title: Re: Jewish communities assasinated in Mecca by Mohammad and his followers.
Post by: syyuge on December 21, 2008, 11:52:55 AM
This search is commendable. However I doubt that any proofs can be obtained from other side of the fence.

It may please be noted that perhaps all the Jewish and other non-mulamics in Arabia were either annihilated or converted completely and then an Iron Curtain around the expanding evil empire was kept forcefully stretched for 1400 years.

Nothing worthwhile could ever come out of that iron curtain except their own Muslamic monologue diatribes. So it is going to be a self proving theorem. 

WARNING: The link below may contain description of violent acts.

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar3.html