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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: briann on December 28, 2008, 02:12:46 AM
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This is the group that employed the death penalty for all who refused to pray 7 times a day to Meca.
This is Islam in its purist and most perverse form.
Thank you Clinton. >:(
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/somalia/3964681/Radical-Islamists-linked-to-al-Qaeda-set-to-take-control-of-Somalia.html
Hardline Islamists are poised to take control of large areas of southern Somalia, opening a possible new front in the war on terrorism.
By Mike Pflanz in Nairobi
Last Updated: 5:28PM GMT 26 Dec 2008
Fears are growing that this lawless area, bordering Kenya and Ethiopia, could become a stronghold for terrorists with possible links to al-Qaeda.
Somalia's weak official government, the 14th in the last 17 years, depends entirely on the presence of Ethiopian troops, who are deployed in and around the capital, Mogadishu.
They invaded in December 2006, mounting an American-supported operation which overthrew an earlier Islamist regime, styling itself the Islamic Courts Union.
But Ethiopia has pledged to withdraw its troops at the end of December. When they leave, the official government is likely to fall - or be forced to evacuate Mogadishu.
An armed group styling itself Al-Shebab is likely to take over. Already, its fighters are believed to control more than 80 per cent of southern Somalia. These radical Islamists believe in imposing Sharia law and they recently approved the stoning of a 13-year-old girl.
Al Shebab, the fanatical armed wing which broke from the Islamic Courts Union which ran Somalia for the second half of 2006, now holds more than 80 per cent of the country – more territory than the Courts controlled during their reign.
Rashid Abdi, Somalia analyst for the Brussels-based International Crisis Group said: "They may be forced to moderate their radical line once they take over just to stay in power.
"But there are those who predict al Shebab turning into some kind of Frankenstein's monster taken over by, or at least sympathetic to, foreign elements who have ambitions outside Somalia, to spread radical Islam or mount terror attacks, in northeastern Kenya or eastern Ethiopia."
The group, listed as a terrorist organisation by Washington, has been accused of sheltering the al-Qaeda cell which bombed the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998 and blew up an Israeli-owned hotel on the Kenyan coast in 2002.
Last month, the US embassy in Nairobi warned that it continues to receive indications of potential terrorist threats aimed at American, Western, and Kenyan interests in Kenya including threats of "suicide operations, bombings, kidnappings, attacks on civil aviation, and attacks on maritime vessels".
There are fears that al Shebab, whose stronghold is the Somali port of Kismayo just north of the border with Kenya, could launch an attack on coastal resorts popular with Western tourists over the Christmas holidays.
The United Nations office in Nairobi has warned staff of a "heightened level of alert along the coast".
Al Shebab's chief military commander, Muktar Robow, said earlier this year that he was ready "to take orders from Sheikh Osama bin Laden".
His forces were swelled by foreign fighters who answered a call to jihad when the Ethiopians invaded, in December 2006, to crush the Islamic Courts Union.
That intervention, heavily encouraged by Washington, is widely seen to have prompted the radicalisation of Somalia's Islamist movement and to have launched its Iraq-style insurgency which has killed thousands of civilians and forced 1.1 million people into desperate squatter camps. Two-thirds of the population of Mogadishu, the capital, have fled.
This has created a humanitarian disaster where 3.2 million people, half the population, now needs handouts, but where international aid staff cannot work and food shipments must be shepherded by warships to ward off pirates.
"I think it is finally starting to sink-in in Washington, two years too late, that sending in the Ethiopians as a proxy force to deal with the Islamists was just madness," said Andrew McGregor, terrorism editor at the Jamestown Foundation, a right-wing think tank in Washington.
There is some hope that once the Islamists seize control – and few doubt that they will – they will curb their insurgency, which largely targets the Ethiopians, and that Somalia might enjoy a level of stability as was seen under the Islamic Courts Union.
But there are concerns whether al Shebab, whose name means "the youth" and whose forces are largely illiterate and disaffected young men, can peacefully consolidate their power once they are in charge.
"Unless they can reach out and form some new alliances, which is not an easy thing to do among Somalia's clans, they will fail and we will see the start of yet another civil war," said Mr Abdi.
"I'm not optimistic. The future looks bleak and is likely to be bloody."
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Somalia is practically a gone case and can be written off. Whenever need be, it can be resolved enmasse.
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Is there such a thing as a non-fascist Islamist lol?
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The Muslims in Seattle are mostly from Somalia. And they are stupider then Hell
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This is the group that employed the death penalty for all who refused to pray 7 times a day to Meca.
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any article on that group doing that?
regarding their prayers, which are towards mecca(or macca as muslims say, which is the arabic). Their obligation is 5 times a day
This article mentions about islammic law in such a case, it's the well known law against apostacy. nothing new
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=4850&CATE=12
most arabs that do little call themselves non practicing(even if perhaps they don't believe), so they are considered weak muslims but not considered apostates. They are still arab nationalists though.. and i'm sure most of them do believe it, and just can't be bothered.
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The lovely Muktar Robow recently said, while he was slaughtering a sheep for a celebration, that it was too bad they couldn't have an Ethiopian Christian that they could slaughter instead. Anyone who thinks they are kidding in the slightest doesn't understand these people. They get much of their money and arms from Muslim Eritrea (another new independent state during the Clinton years.) They also have a video of a Muslim aid worker they beheaded (actually just sawed off his head with a hunting knife) because he converted to Christianity.
Apparently one of the Islamic Courts Union commanders is a white American. I wonder what liberal college he went to.
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Eritrea, Ogaden and Somaliland shall be cleared of muslamic terrorists and pirates and should be kept under full democratic control of Ethiopia.