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I am calling for a boycot of anything from Turkey... Those bastards are evil antisemites. America should cut off all diplomatic relations with the cesspool of Turkey...
Get a load of this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129268
Muslims Death Threats Halt Turkish-Israel Basketball Game
Tevet 10, 5769, 06 January 09 10:19
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Turkish Muslims screamed death threats at a European Cup game between Turkey and Israel, forcing players to flee to the dressing room Tuesday. Referees suspended the game between Bnei HaSharon and Turk Telekom, who were playing in as part of the European championship series.
Shouts of "Israel, Killers" and "Allah is Great" were followed by a surge of more than 2,000 fans with fists raised in the air at the Ankara sports center. "They had blood in their eyes" and threw bottles and shoes at the Israel team, one player said.
The Turkish players also fled to the dressing room, protected by police who use riot shields to protect players from both sides. Outside, Muslims set fire to an Israeli flag.
Turkey's secular government has come under increased pressure from Muslims, who want to make the nation officially religious. The government, despite its good relations with Israel, has been sharply critical of the Cast Lead counterterrorist campaign in Gaza and has been promoting a ceasefire proposal.
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I was surprised how many products come from Muslim countries, especially in big box stores. Most of the stuff is from China or Taiwan, but the stuff that isn't is often from a Muslim country. Sometimes it's hard to avoid it. I'll try to be sure to read the labels though. I don't want to be supporting Quranimals.
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I Like Turkey it goes great with stuffing and coleslaw
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Watch Midnight Express (Great Movie btw), they are sick!
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Guess what book besides the Koran has been a top 10 seller in Turkey for the last 4 years straight?
Mein Kampf
Need I say more.
(http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/TurkeyMeinKampf.jpg)
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I am calling for a boycot of anything from Turkey... Those bastards are evil antisemites. America should cut off all diplomatic relations with the cesspool of Turkey...
Get a load of this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129268
Muslims Death Threats Halt Turkish-Israel Basketball Game
Tevet 10, 5769, 06 January 09 10:19
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Turkish Muslims screamed death threats at a European Cup game between Turkey and Israel, forcing players to flee to the dressing room Tuesday. Referees suspended the game between Bnei HaSharon and Turk Telekom, who were playing in as part of the European championship series.
Shouts of "Israel, Killers" and "Allah is Great" were followed by a surge of more than 2,000 fans with fists raised in the air at the Ankara sports center. "They had blood in their eyes" and threw bottles and shoes at the Israel team, one player said.
The Turkish players also fled to the dressing room, protected by police who use riot shields to protect players from both sides. Outside, Muslims set fire to an Israeli flag.
Turkey's secular government has come under increased pressure from Muslims, who want to make the nation officially religious. The government, despite its good relations with Israel, has been sharply critical of the Cast Lead counterterrorist campaign in Gaza and has been promoting a ceasefire proposal.
I have already been boycotting anything from Turkey because of their genocide of the Armenians and their refusal to admit/apologize for it! If you don't know what they did, read "The Burning Tigris" by Peter Balakian for more info. What they did to Armenian Christians was absolutely reprehensible, and laid the groundwork for what Hitler later did to us (its where he got some of his ideas for genocide against Am Yisrael.)
I shop in an Eastern European/Russian supermarket and they have a lot of Turkish goods...forces me to stay on my toes, reading labels!
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I wonder if the products in the supermarket that has items from turkey is it written in arabic?
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Boycotting goods from any country with a Muslim majority, is a good idea.
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Boycotting goods from any country with a Muslim majority, is a good idea.
We should, considering that those scumbags are boycotting Israeli products.
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I am calling for a boycot of anything from Turkey... Those bastards are evil antisemites. America should cut off all diplomatic relations with the cesspool of Turkey...
Get a load of this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129268
Muslims Death Threats Halt Turkish-Israel Basketball Game
Tevet 10, 5769, 06 January 09 10:19
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Turkish Muslims screamed death threats at a European Cup game between Turkey and Israel, forcing players to flee to the dressing room Tuesday. Referees suspended the game between Bnei HaSharon and Turk Telekom, who were playing in as part of the European championship series.
Shouts of "Israel, Killers" and "Allah is Great" were followed by a surge of more than 2,000 fans with fists raised in the air at the Ankara sports center. "They had blood in their eyes" and threw bottles and shoes at the Israel team, one player said.
The Turkish players also fled to the dressing room, protected by police who use riot shields to protect players from both sides. Outside, Muslims set fire to an Israeli flag.
Turkey's secular government has come under increased pressure from Muslims, who want to make the nation officially religious. The government, despite its good relations with Israel, has been sharply critical of the Cast Lead counterterrorist campaign in Gaza and has been promoting a ceasefire proposal.
I have already been boycotting anything from Turkey because of their genocide of the Armenians and their refusal to admit/apologize for it! If you don't know what they did, read "The Burning Tigris" by Peter Balakian for more info. What they did to Armenian Christians was absolutely reprehensible, and laid the groundwork for what Hitler later did to us (its where he got some of his ideas for genocide against Am Yisrael.)
I shop in an Eastern European/Russian supermarket and they have a lot of Turkish goods...forces me to stay on my toes, reading labels!
You are correct. Don't forget that when Muslim Azerbaijan went to war over the Nagorno-Karabakh region with Armenia, the Turks took the Azerbaijani side. That is 70 years after they committed genocide against more than a million Christian Armenians. That would be like Germany actively supplying and supporting Hamas and Iran with arms and money directly and telling critics to go to hell.
Also, you cannot forget that Turkey still occupies Cyprus and also killed thousands of Greek Cypriots there in favor of Muslims and making the island more Muzzie friendly. Look what they do to their own Kurdish population too. Kurds have been forceably relocated and their language and music banned. Many Turkish people who criticized Turkish policies or even said there was an Armenian genocide have been assassinated or put in prison.
This is a moderate Muslim country.
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I've been boycotting Turkey for years because of the Armenian issue. I knew some students who were planning to study there and I told them they should not go there. They went there anyways and I told them what I thought of them. Needless to say, we do not talk anymore.
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Turkeys are good only for eggs and food. So Armenia should be encouraged.
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Boycotting goods from any country with a Muslim majority, is a good idea.
We should, considering that those scumbags are boycotting Israeli products.
Absolutely.
The following is yet another example of what you mentioned:
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=kz75H5Wlnn8
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
True. Wine is now very expensive because the government wants to discourage the consumption of alcohol.
Sorry if this doesn't impress anyone, but in the context of Turkey it is significant because the more relaxed attitude towards alcohol in Thrace was always regarded as a sign of the moral degeneration of that region. Ataturk himself died of liver cirrhosis.
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
True. Wine is now very expensive because the government wants to discourage the consumption of alcohol.
Sorry if this doesn't impress anyone, but in the context of Turkey it is significant because the more relaxed attitude towards alcohol in Thrace was always regarded as a sign of the moral degeneration of that region. Ataturk himself died of liver cirrhosis.
I think wine is fine if you consume it not excessive. And even if, it is 100% better to be a wine drinker than a quranimal.
I am becoming always sick if I hear how this quranimal breed is speaking of moral decay.
We all know who are the thieves, robbers, drug dealers, rapists, pimps, gamblers, adulterers, welfare recipients and a great part of opium addicts - QURANIMALS.
This scum of the earth should shut up.
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
True. Wine is now very expensive because the government wants to discourage the consumption of alcohol.
Sorry if this doesn't impress anyone, but in the context of Turkey it is significant because the more relaxed attitude towards alcohol in Thrace was always regarded as a sign of the moral degeneration of that region. Ataturk himself died of liver cirrhosis.
I think wine is fine if you consume it not excessive. And even if, it is 100% better to be a wine drinker than a quranimal.
I am becoming always sick if I hear how this quranimal breed is speaking of moral decay.
We all know who are the thieves, robbers, drug dealers, rapists, pimps, gamblers, adulterers, welfare recipients and a great part of opium addicts - QURANIMALS.
This scum of the earth should shut up.
Well said!! Unfortunately, nobody will be reading this in Turkey as we're already banned..
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I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.
I appreciate cristisms regarding Turkey,and boycotting turkey is your democratic right.But Turkey is still a critical ally for Israel,Europe and Western World.Radical islam will take the power in Turkey someday if our jewish and westerner friends sit there just like that and don't do anything at all! but to conduce Turkey's involving more in Islam,Jihad and Muslim World.We don't wanna be the leader of Muslim World!!.We want to create a society that is totally secular, democratic, respectful to human rights and not addicted to religion.These kind of actions,such as boycotting turkey,will lead turkey to be more anti-semitic and more enemy of the western world.We gotta sit down and think about it.We are not brothers or sisters,as we are completely different culturally,etnically and religously.But at least we can try to be "friends".Don't you think?
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I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.
I appreciate cristisms regarding Turkey,and boycotting turkey is your democratic right.But Turkey is still a critical ally for Israel,Europe and Western World.Radical islam will take the power in Turkey someday if our jewish and westerner friends sit there just like that and don't do anything at all! but to conduce Turkey's involving more in Islam,Jihad and Muslim World.We don't wanna be the leader of Muslim World!!.We want to create a society that is totally secular, democratic, respectful to human rights and not addicted to religion.These kind of actions,such as boycotting turkey,will lead turkey to be more anti-semitic and more enemy of the western world.We gotta sit down and think about it.We are not brothers or sisters,as we are completely different culturally,etnically and religously.But at least we can try to be "friends".Don't you think?
Welcome Mehmetce,
I agree that we should be able to get along. But the people of Turkey must stand up against the antisemitism. I hope that the politicians in Turkey can control the situation.
We can be friends if you believe that Jews should be able to live in Israel in peace. If that is the case we can look forward to a good future working together to see a better world.
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I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.
I appreciate cristisms regarding Turkey,and boycotting turkey is your democratic right.But Turkey is still a critical ally for Israel,Europe and Western World.Radical islam will take the power in Turkey someday if our jewish and westerner friends sit there just like that and don't do anything at all! but to conduce Turkey's involving more in Islam,Jihad and Muslim World.We don't wanna be the leader of Muslim World!!.We want to create a society that is totally secular, democratic, respectful to human rights and not addicted to religion.These kind of actions,such as boycotting turkey,will lead turkey to be more anti-semitic and more enemy of the western world.We gotta sit down and think about it.We are not brothers or sisters,as we are completely different culturally,etnically and religously.But at least we can try to be "friends".Don't you think?
I love Turkey!!! Its my favorite dish on Thanksgiving!!!
Turkey an ally for Israel??? WHAT???? This is the country where 'Mein Kampf' has been a top 10 best seller for several years now. I came in contact with several 'moderate' Turks in grad school... and they ALL beleived that 9/11 was perpetrated by zioninst interests.
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I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.
I appreciate cristisms regarding Turkey,and boycotting turkey is your democratic right.But Turkey is still a critical ally for Israel,Europe and Western World.Radical islam will take the power in Turkey someday if our jewish and westerner friends sit there just like that and don't do anything at all! but to conduce Turkey's involving more in Islam,Jihad and Muslim World.We don't wanna be the leader of Muslim World!!.We want to create a society that is totally secular, democratic, respectful to human rights and not addicted to religion.These kind of actions,such as boycotting turkey,will lead turkey to be more anti-semitic and more enemy of the western world.We gotta sit down and think about it.We are not brothers or sisters,as we are completely different culturally,etnically and religously.But at least we can try to be "friends".Don't you think?
If people with your sentiment were the majority in Turkey, then we could get along. Unfortuantely, despite Turkey being a relatively open society compared to the rest of the Islamic world, it has turned towards green communism over the past few decades. Do you really see it changing over the next few years away from Al Qaeda and anti Semites?
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What the hell does turkey produce? The only export from turkey i know about i is hassish
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Actually, Mehmetce has a point. Israel has had cordial relations with Turkey for a while now. However, that may have changed after the recent Gaza war.
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What the hell does turkey produce? The only export from turkey i know about i is hassish
That is what I have been wondering!!
I had a few Turkish friends in school, they were great. For some reason they were all in the pharmacy program.... hmm. However, the subject of politics or religion never came up so I have no idea where they stood as far as that goes. I am certain they were not Muslim though. I have never liked Muslims, even before I knew what they were all about.
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
True. Wine is now very expensive because the government wants to discourage the consumption of alcohol.
Sorry if this doesn't impress anyone, but in the context of Turkey it is significant because the more relaxed attitude towards alcohol in Thrace was always regarded as a sign of the moral degeneration of that region. Ataturk himself died of liver cirrhosis.
I think wine is fine if you consume it not excessive. And even if, it is 100% better to be a wine drinker than a quranimal.
I am becoming always sick if I hear how this quranimal breed is speaking of moral decay.
We all know who are the thieves, robbers, drug dealers, rapists, pimps, gamblers, adulterers, welfare recipients and a great part of opium addicts - QURANIMALS.
This scum of the earth should shut up.
Well said, Pheasant. I definitely agree with you the Quranimals. :dance:
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I only hate the fanatist, anti-semitic muslim Turks. I have good Turkish friends, who support Israel! :dance: And they hate the muslims as we. (They say "it is against the Turkish world, and it is arab [censored]")
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Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.
Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.
It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket. :o
I agree Turkey should be boycotted all the way. After all they've done, especially destroyed Germany, Armenia and the Christian Balkan countries. I suppose there are righteous Christian Turks but very few.
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What the hell does turkey produce? The only export from turkey i know about i is hassish
That is what I have been wondering!!
I had a few Turkish friends in school, they were great. For some reason they were all in the pharmacy program.... hmm. However, the subject of politics or religion never came up so I have no idea where they stood as far as that goes. I am certain they were not Muslim though. I have never liked Muslims, even before I knew what they were all about.
I'm glad you brought that up. I had similar experiences with Turkish classmates... they seemed very nice and cordial... but as soon as world affairs were brought up, I was horrified... and its no wonder that they are moving more and more to the extreme. The hate zionism.... more than you can imagine. They straight up told me that they have no problem with Christianity or Judaism... as long as it does not promote zionistic goals. They also told me about zionist conspiracies an 9/11. It actually was my first feeling of hatred that I had for Islam.... since it made me wonder... how such seemingly rational people want to believe in such nonsense.
I am sorry... but unless this Turkish forum member renounces Islam and Naziism, I don't think we should welcome him in this forum.
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whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller ???? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons
also you can read g bush his book cant you ?
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whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller ???? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons
also you can read g bush his book cant you ?
You are obviously an idiot and will be banned in a matter of moments. Enjoy your time while you can you worthless piece of excrement. We do enjoy destroying evil like you. You have arrived at just the right time so that we can have fun insulting you and your filthy religion.
Islam is a cult led by a lecherous fool who considered himself a prophet. He was able to fool a bunch of dumb arabs and some dumb persians and make believe he talks to G-d. Mohammud was worse that pig excrement, as you and your mother are. We have no patients for trolls who are so obviously here to be rude and insulting.
You have no power and will be dust soon. Islam glorifies death and you should kill yourself to be close to Mohamud and Allah the dog. Your kind disgusts me and my family. Iran is good for nothing and the world will be better off without drek like you walking the earth. Air is too valuable for swine like you and Achmadinanad.
Go to hell and don't come back! You will tell us how it feels to be the ones in the ovens this time.
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YES, MUMAN TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH....
go to hell....HELL!
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:fist: :fist: :fist: :fist: :israel: :israel: :israel: :israel:
:usa+israel: :usa+israel: :usa+israel: :usa+israel: :usa+israel: :usa+israel: :usa+israel: :fist: :fist: :fist: :fist: :fist: :fist: :fist:
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whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller ???? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons
also you can read g bush his book cant you ?
You are obviously an idiot and will be banned in a matter of moments. Enjoy your time while you can you worthless piece of excrement. We do enjoy destroying evil like you. You have arrived at just the right time so that we can have fun insulting you and your filthy religion.
Islam is a cult led by a lecherous fool who considered himself a prophet. He was able to fool a bunch of dumb arabs and some dumb persians and make believe he talks to G-d. Mohammud was worse that pig excrement, as you and your mother are. We have no patients for trolls who are so obviously here to be rude and insulting.
You have no power and will be dust soon. Islam glorifies death and you should kill yourself to be close to Mohamud and Allah the dog. Your kind disgusts me and my family. Iran is good for nothing and the world will be better off without drek like you walking the earth. Air is too valuable for swine like you and Achmadinanad.
Go to hell and don't come back! You will tell us how it feels to be the ones in the ovens this time.
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Filthy Muzz cockroach correction the world hates Dirty filthy low smelly bug eating Muzzheads who are the dirtiest nastiest creatures on the Earth and now I do know everything about you you make threats to this country? That is all I wanted you have no idea who you are messing with Scumbag Muzz
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GO TO HELLLLLLLL!!!!!
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I AM PART GERMAN AND I DON'T HATE JEWS YOU SCUMBAG....
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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sorry but who cares if a jew hates him ?i mean i live in germany and every single german still hates jews,same in the whole world.
u will always be hated and fcked,as long as the world exists
assalamu alaykum
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DU BIST EINE SCHITZEKOFF
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SCHITZEKOFF!!!!!!!
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I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.
Sorry but we are banned, not as a movement but as an internet site. I have tried several servers and they all ban us as a "hate site". Also, You Tube is still banned because of comments on Ataturk. Democracy? Give us a break!!
Before the UK further supports EEC membership for Turkey, it should remember that most UK cabinet members in their youth were socialist activists of the type which were routinely hung in Turkey for being exactly that. And so, you have a problem - too much to the left and you are imprisoned/killed, too much to the right and Islam rots your brain. Political discussion doesn't exist in Turkey the way we know it in the West. That's why young Turks surprise their counterparts in Europe by their total political illiteracy. We don't need a rehash of Turkish State Television in the disguise of free thought. I understand that journalists from the mildly reformatory newspaper Cumhuriyet are still languishing in jail. Your democracy is a joke. Continue putting your women in headscarfs and continue on your journey to oblivion. Ataturk was a great reformer, but the pity is you never produced anyone remotely similar, before or since. Plus, he was never a Muslim, and his father considered himself Jewish. Which brings us back to why You Tube is banned. Kill the Messenger.
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The fact that the Turkish government officially are holocaust deniers of the Armenian genocide is enough of a problem for me. They say "many people died" but it was clearly an extermination campaign against the Armenians. Yes, Armenians took up arms against the Turks who were ruling their lands and what Armenians got in return was to be driven around in box cars in circles, in 100 degree heat until most of them were dead and there were at least one million dead. May Talat's name and memory be obliterated. Also, they still have recently killed Armenians by aiding the Muslim Azerbaijanis in Nagorno Karabakh. They helped occupy half the island of Greek Christian Cyprus on behalf of Turk Cypriots who killed 10 Greeks for every one Turk killed. They kill all types of dissidents and even have treated Muslim Kurds worse than excrement. If they ban the Kurdish music and displaced half the Kurdish population through forced relocations and imprisonment, why should they be trusted as partners in the EU?
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They want to join the EU and care a sh*t for our values! Look how this mob behaves! This is exactly what they do here also! They throw bottles, Molotov cocktails and shout at German player "Nazi scum" and threaten them with death.
What a blind hatred. And I wonder why this islamist mob goes to watch such a match. It is haram anyway! Perhaps not haram enough...
But it is hard to boycot Turkish products here in Germany. Clothes, many food and other things come from Turkey. 55% of chicken meat in Germany is traded by a Turkish firm.
Turkey can try to be Western or secular - it will always remain Muslim. Since Atatürk the country has become everytime more religious and this will not stop there. I am sure that sooner or later they will cut ties to Israel and they will become an islamic Republic before they can even dream of joining the EU!
I just wonder why Obama has pressed so much the EU to accept Turkey as full member. This country is not even close to Europe when it comes to human rights, freedom, and culture!
All European culture they have is actualy GREEK! Or does anyone think that Hagia Sophia still looks like a former cathedral? This is the way they influence our culture...
Now Israel should ask for an excuse by the Turkish diplomats just as they always want excuses from others!
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2008.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Bravo my friend, you do seem to know what is right and wrong. If only you can spread this message without much resistance. I wish you much strength because I feel you will need it.
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2008.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Ne mutlu türküm diyene. ;D A real Turk is not muslim. Islam is Arab. Turks must leave that dirty religion.
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.
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I am calling for a boycot of anything from Turkey... Those bastards are evil antisemites. America should cut off all diplomatic relations with the cesspool of Turkey...
Get a load of this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129268
Muslims Death Threats Halt Turkish-Israel Basketball Game
Tevet 10, 5769, 06 January 09 10:19
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Turkish Muslims screamed death threats at a European Cup game between Turkey and Israel, forcing players to flee to the dressing room Tuesday. Referees suspended the game between Bnei HaSharon and Turk Telekom, who were playing in as part of the European championship series.
Shouts of "Israel, Killers" and "Allah is Great" were followed by a surge of more than 2,000 fans with fists raised in the air at the Ankara sports center. "They had blood in their eyes" and threw bottles and shoes at the Israel team, one player said.
The Turkish players also fled to the dressing room, protected by police who use riot shields to protect players from both sides. Outside, Muslims set fire to an Israeli flag.
Turkey's secular government has come under increased pressure from Muslims, who want to make the nation officially religious. The government, despite its good relations with Israel, has been sharply critical of the Cast Lead counterterrorist campaign in Gaza and has been promoting a ceasefire proposal.
Ive been boycotting anything Turkish for about 3 years now due to the fact that they refuse to own up to the genocide they committed against the Armenians.
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I Like Turkey it goes great with stuffing and coleslaw
Cornbread stuffing?
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Second Turkish affront administered to Israel in a week
April 29, 2009, 8:44 PM (GMT+02:00)
Turkey's army chief Gen. Ilker Basburg brushed off the Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak's comment that the joint Turkish-Syrian military exercise was "disturbing."
Barak referred to the first exercise Turkey, Israel's longstanding military ally and NATO member, had ever staged with an Arab nation, Israel's avowed foe Syria. Gen. Basbug said it was only a border exercise, small-scale and "none of anybody's business."
"Why would it concern Israel? We will not ask for permission from anybody else [to conduct such exercises], he said."
DEBKAfile's military sources, who first broke the story about the maneuver earlier this week, noted that the Turkish general made a point of mentioning his "extensive talks with the visiting US Chief of General Staff" and their four-hour long "exchange of views on a range of issues."
This confirmed DEBKAfile's earlier report that the Turkish-Syrian exercise had received Washington's nod. To see this report, click HERE
Basburg also boasted about his meeting with US President Obama"s national security advisor Jones during President Obama's visit to Turkey early April.
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As a NATO member they think they have no reason to ask permission? YES they DO! Since it is not allowed for any meber of the NATO to have manoeuvres with any no-ally or at least partner of the NATO - only with a special permission. And I doubt they asked for it! They simply ignore every single rule and get billions of Dollars every year!
Now imagine this country in the EU! They care a nuts about our opinions. So why do they join us then? How about them making a pan-Turkic alliance with Azerbaijan and the Turkic countries from former USSR!? >:(
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.
A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.
A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.
Well I agree with half of what you say.
You can't modify the Koran. It just doesn't work like that. Just like you can't modify the Communist Manifesto, or Mein Kampf. They are what they are. And based upon what we have all seen... Muslims are NOT EVER going to modify their beliefs of Jihad... as it is a key part of Islam.... and litters the whole second half of the Koran.
By the way, as far as modernizing, I think you are looking at this all wrong. We here all have very open and tolerant attitudes towards religions/ideologies that shun modern lifestyles... as long as their religion promotes peaceful coexistence with others.
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Phew, for a second there I thought you meant the poultry meat. I just bought a couple of boneless skinless turkey breasts, very healthy lean protein. :)
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.
A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.
Personally I do not believe that it is possible to separate religous and secular life in the way in which you indicate. Christianity has no designs on society on the whole, in the way that Islam does, but even in Europe it has never really been possible to separate Church from State. If you think I'm just talking about hundreds of years ago, check on how many Catholics were in Jim Callaghan and Shirley Williams' Cabinet when they took Britain into the Common Market.
I would concede a litte to Mehmetce. I do believe that educated people in the West of Turkey increasingly pay just lip service to Islam, in the way in which most people in the UK do to Christianity. I personally manage a group of educated people in western Turkey, not one of whom goes to a mosque or observes Ramadan. I believe that there is a possibility of a civil war between the modern secularists and the vast conservative majority. The army would side with the secularists, and the Arab petrodollars with Islam. The present day secularists already tend to regard the term Arab as an insult, and bear absolutely no resemblance either in appearance or belief to the Islamic hordes which have been allowed to settle throughout western Europe.
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Phew, for a second there I thought you meant the poultry meat. I just bought a couple of boneless skinless turkey breasts, very healthy lean protein. :)
Yes, I am a big fan of Turkey. I'm chowing down on some Turkey Chili as we speak.
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I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!
Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.
Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.
It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.
European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.
Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.
A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.
Personally I do not believe that it is possible to separate religous and secular life in the way in which you indicate. Christianity has no designs on society on the whole, in the way that Islam does, but even in Europe it has never really been possible to separate Church from State. If you think I'm just talking about hundreds of years ago, check on how many Catholics were in Jim Callaghan and Shirley Williams' Cabinet when they took Britain into the Common Market.
I would concede a litte to Mehmetce. I do believe that educated people in the West of Turkey increasingly pay just lip service to Islam, in the way in which most people in the UK do to Christianity. I personally manage a group of educated people in western Turkey, not one of whom goes to a mosque or observes Ramadan. I believe that there is a possibility of a civil war between the modern secularists and the vast conservative majority. The army would side with the secularists, and the Arab petrodollars with Islam. The present day secularists already tend to regard the term Arab as an insult, and bear absolutely no resemblance either in appearance or belief to the Islamic hordes which have been allowed to settle throughout western Europe.
Secularism is the guarantee of democratic regime in Turkey.If we abandon it by thinking that it is impossible to create and sustain a secular country,then Turkey will defitinely be an Islamic State.To prevent this from happenning,we've got to look after secularism very carefully and teach our children "new comers" how much it is important to sustain secularism.I don't know about Europe,but the situation in Turkey is this.Each country has it's own unique problems you know.
I almost agree with your statements about seculars except the civil war between seculars and islamists.Nearly 5.000 people hanged during the administration of Ataturk,because of their reactions on the secularism.It was a cost which must have paid for democracy.
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Your jokes about Turkey started to get stale.Try to be more creative or,do not any joke about it ;D
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Your jokes about Turkey started to get stale.Try to be more creative or,do not any joke about it ;D
What do Turks think about the Arabs?
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Your jokes about Turkey started to get stale.Try to be more creative or,do not any joke about it ;D
You're right, nobody likes stale Turkey.
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Turks have the government which they want, and which they deserve. They shouldn't whine about it.
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I as Ortodox Christian will always side with Armenia or Greece against Turkey; As to Israel of course it had right to alie itself with whoever they want but I think it makes a mistake here. Israel is antagonasing Ortodox Countries only to win a "friendship" from the like 1979 Iran Turkey. And for the Turks they have obligation to prove their secularity by rejecting islaimist parties in next elections or they won't be acepted into EU no matter what Barrack Hussein Obama says. I'm 100% for the Sarko :yuck: in this one.
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The Communist lead of Hungary and of my town bought Turkish bus. (Mercedes Conecto, but made in "Türkiye").
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The Communist lead of Hungary and of my town bought Turkish bus. (Mercedes Conecto, but made in "Türkiye").
And now I hope they send them here to Germany. We fill the busses with the Turks and send them back to Turkey... ;D :dance:
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(http://buszok.mondi.hu/hatterek/jiw-674_k.jpg)
Communist landscape.
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Your jokes about Turkey started to get stale.Try to be more creative or,do not any joke about it ;D
What do Turks think about the Arabs?
Well,turks are a crowded people you know and opinions may vary from person to person.
Some of them really hate them,because they think,they deserve to die,as they sold ottomans and betrayed them by cooperating with the "infidels" in the WWI.Some of others think that they are still muslims so they are their brothers.
And finally some of them,does not feel hatred or friendship agaisnt them.They just simply dislike them,because they think they are "retarded","dirty ass","selfish","vulgar" and all the other bad adjectives you can consider.