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This is sickening. And it's only going to happen more and more under Obama.
http://www.buffalonews.com/260/story/570428.html
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Fla. doctor investigated in badly botched abortion
By CHRISTINE ARMARIO
Associated Press Writer
Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.
Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.
Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.
What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.
Police recovered the decomposing remains in a cardboard box a week later after getting anonymous tips.
"I don't care what your politics are, what your morals are, this should not be happening in our community," said Tom Pennekamp, a Miami attorney representing Williams in her lawsuit against Renelique (ren-uh-LEEK') and the clinic owners.
The state Board of Medicine is to hear Renelique's case in Tampa on Friday and determine whether to strip his license. The state attorney's homicide division is investigating, though no charges have been filed. Terry Chavez, a spokeswoman with the Miami-Dade County State Attorney's Office, said this week that prosecutors were nearing a decision.
Renelique's attorney, Joseph Harrison, called the allegations at best "misguided and incomplete" in an e-mail to The Associated Press. He didn't provide details.
The case has riled the anti-abortion community, which contends the clinic's actions constitute murder.
"The baby was just treated as a piece of garbage," said Tom Brejcha, president of The Thomas More Society, a law firm that is also representing Williams. "People all over the country are just aghast."
Even those who support abortion rights are concerned about the allegations.
"It really disturbed me," said Joanne Sterner, president of the Broward County chapter of the National Organization for Women, after reviewing the administrative complaint against Renelique. "I know that there are clinics out there like this. And I hope that we can keep (women) from going to these types of clinics."
According to state records, Renelique received his medical training at the State University of Haiti. In 1991, he completed a four-year residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Interfaith Medical Center in New York.
New York records show that Renelique has made at least five medical malpractice payments in the past decade, the circumstances of which were not detailed in the filings.
Several attempts to reach Renelique were unsuccessful. Some of his office numbers were disconnected, no home number could be found and he did not return messages left with his attorney.
Williams struggled with the decision to have an abortion, Pennekamp said. She declined an interview request made through him.
She concluded she didn't have the resources or maturity to raise a child, he said, and went to the Miramar Women's Center on July 17, 2006. Sonograms indicated she was 23 weeks pregnant, according to the Department of Health. She met Renelique at a second clinic two days later.
Renelique gave Williams laminaria, a drug that dilates the cervix, and prescribed three other medications, according to the administrative complaint filed by the Health Department. She was told to go to yet another clinic, A Gyn Diagnostic Center in Hialeah, where the procedure would be performed the next day, on July 20, 2006.
Williams arrived in the morning and was given more medication.
The Department of Health account continues as follows: Just before noon she began to feel ill. The clinic contacted Renelique. Two hours later, he still hadn't shown up. Williams went into labor and delivered the baby.
"She came face to face with a human being," Pennekamp said. "And that changed everything."
The complaint says one of the clinic owners, Belkis Gonzalez came in and cut the umbilical cord with scissors, then placed the baby in a plastic bag, and the bag in a trash can.
Williams' lawsuit offers a cruder account: She says Gonzalez knocked the baby off the recliner chair where she had given birth, onto the floor. The baby's umbilical cord was not clamped, allowing her to bleed out. Gonzalez scooped the baby, placenta and afterbirth into a red plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.
No working telephone number could be found for Gonzalez, and an attorney who has represented the clinic in the past did not return a message.
At 23 weeks, an otherwise healthy fetus would have a slim but legitimate chance of survival. Quadruplets born at 23 weeks last year at The Nebraska Medical Center survived.
An autopsy determined Williams' baby - she named her Shanice - had filled her lungs with air, meaning she had been born alive, according to the Department of Health. The cause of death was listed as extreme prematurity.
The Department of Health believes Renelique committed malpractice by failing to ensure that licensed personnel would be present when Williams was there, among other missteps.
The department wants the Board of Medicine, a separate agency, to permanently revoke Renelique's license, among other penalties. His license is currently restricted, permitting him to only perform abortions when another licensed physician is present and can review his medical records.
Should prosecutors file murder charges, they'd have to prove the baby was born alive, said Robert Batey, a professor of criminal law at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport. The defense might contend that the child would have died anyway, but most courts would not allow that argument, he said.
"Hastening the death of an individual who is terminally ill is still considered causing the death of that individual," Batey said. "And I think a court would rule similarly in this type of case."
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This really IS sickening! I bet that bastard doctor fled back to France or Montreal.
This is where I don't understand the problem:
"Should prosecutors file murder charges, they'd have to prove the baby was born alive, said Robert Batey, a professor of criminal law at Stetson University College of Law in Gulfport. The defense might contend that the child would have died anyway, but most courts would not allow that argument, he said."
And just above this, is this in the article:
"An autopsy determined Williams' baby - she named her Shanice - had filled her lungs with air, meaning she had been born alive, according to the Department of Health. The cause of death was listed as extreme prematurity."
Well DUH! I think the autopsy PROVED this is murder! And this Gonzalez person should be put away too! To just kick a baby off the recliner and onto the floor to let it bleed out? You are right, this is only going to get worse under Obamanation.
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How in the name of pete does a physician get licensed in the United States with a degree from Haiti?
And one more gripe: If you expect the AMA to act on this, then think again. Expecting the AMA to discipline bad doctors is like expecting the UAW to fire bad auto workers. Believe me, the various state Bar associations do a far better job of disciplining bad lawyers than the AMA does of ridding itself of incompetent or immoral doctors. It's a disgrace.
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I am not shocked. This is how the world works today.
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I really don't know all the small details but can't American medical students study medicine in foreign countries. If that's the case then the degree would be from that country.
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These abortion doctors are the same "doctors" who would be doing experiments in nazi death camps.
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This isn't a French Dr. it's no doubt a Haitain
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/05/2398977-fla-doctor-investigated-in-badly-botched-abortion
According to state records, Renelique received his medical training at the State University of Haiti. In 1991, he completed a four-year residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Interfaith Medical Center in New York
never heard of that N.Y. Hospital
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These abortion doctors are the same "doctors" who would be doing experiments in nazi death camps.
Yes, I think there is a connection.
I mean you must really have lack of empathy to do such things.
I think I would have no problem to kill a human in general (every soldier is trained for this), but I couldn't rip the little baby out of a womens body. The same thing is with torturing people to death, like this Nazi-doctors did.
Normal people have here an inhibition threshold. But some have not.
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This isn't a French Dr. it's no doubt a Haitain
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/05/2398977-fla-doctor-investigated-in-badly-botched-abortion
According to state records, Renelique received his medical training at the State University of Haiti. In 1991, he completed a four-year residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Interfaith Medical Center in New York
never heard of that N.Y. Hospital
It's on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. It must be a real gem!
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This isn't a French Dr. it's no doubt a Haitain
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/05/2398977-fla-doctor-investigated-in-badly-botched-abortion
According to state records, Renelique received his medical training at the State University of Haiti. In 1991, he completed a four-year residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Interfaith Medical Center in New York
never heard of that N.Y. Hospital
It's on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. It must be a real gem!
:laugh: I can imagine next to the trestle
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This is disgusting. And forgive me, but I don't think the mother has any right to be upset. She wanted her baby murdered and that's what she got.
My sympathy lies only with the child who had no chance at life and the childless couples who would have given anything to adopt the baby. I realize this baby probably would not have survived, but that's no excuse.