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Title: An alliance
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 20, 2007, 11:51:18 AM
The group JINSA has over 17,000 members, Jewish and gentile.  Maybe JTF could get JINSA to align its views together and sort of merge some resources? 

JINSA consists of conservatives who also support conservatives in Israel.

www.JINSA.org 
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Hail Columbia on July 04, 2008, 08:00:09 PM
That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2008, 08:15:03 PM
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2. To inform the American defense and foreign affairs community about the important role Israel can and does play in bolstering democratic interests in the Mediterranean and the Middle East.

I don't think Chaim would agree with this part.  Muslim countries cannot be democratized.  Islam is not just a religion but a political system.  Sharia and democracy don't mix. 

Also it's quite possible that this group believes American financial aid would help Israel, whereas we're against it. 
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: briann on July 04, 2008, 08:26:17 PM
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2. To inform the American defense and foreign affairs community about the important role Israel can and does play in bolstering democratic interests in the Mediterranean and the Middle East.

I don't think Chaim would agree with this part.  Muslim countries cannot be democratized.  Islam is not just a religion but a political system.  Sharia and democracy don't mix. 

Also it's quite possible that this group believes American financial aid would help Israel, whereas we're against it. 

Good point Lisa.  I wonder if they can amend that part.

Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 04, 2008, 09:54:43 PM
JTF can work with this organization instead!

http://www.jews4fairness.org/

(http://www.jews4fairness.org/images/03.jpg)
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Lisa on July 04, 2008, 10:04:44 PM
Not a bad idea, ChristianZionist. 

There's also Toward Tradion, lead by Rabbi Daniel Lapin, who is right wing, and who does outreach to conservative Christians.  Here's his website:

http://www.towardtradition.org/

But keep in mind that Rabbi Lapin's specialty is not Israel, although he says that Arabs have no respect for human life.  He's all about how America was founded on Judeo Christian values, and how she will go downhill if they're abandoned. 
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Christian Zionist on July 04, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
Not a bad idea, ChristianZionist. 

There's also Toward Tradion, lead by Rabbi Daniel Lapin, who is right wing, and who does outreach to conservative Christians.  Here's his website:

http://www.towardtradition.org/

But keep in mind that Rabbi Lapin's specialty is not Israel, although he says that Arabs have no respect for human life.  He's all about how America was founded on Judeo Christian values, and how she will go downhill if they're abandoned. 

Lisa, Rabbi Daniel Lapin is anti-Kahnist.  I remember reading one of his articles attacking Kahanites.

But he is a good friend of Pat Robertson.
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on July 06, 2008, 12:16:35 AM
And don't forget this wonderful organization:

Jews Against Creeping Jigabooism
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: briann on July 06, 2008, 12:20:34 AM
Maybe we could come up with a list of righteous right-wing orgs.  Then we could all take turns contacting them.

Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: RationalThought110 on July 06, 2008, 01:04:02 AM
The thread is old.  I thought of the possibility that JTF could influence the policies that "think tank" advocates.

I was wrong.  I don't think the people who started that organization are as supportive of Israel as they claim to be.  However, people who support that organization probably do so because they assume that it's a good organization that support Israels.  So I think that maybe some people who support that organization would also support JTF. 
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: Daniel Ben Hanania on July 06, 2008, 01:33:58 AM
they have forum or something ?
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: muslimslayer0075995 on July 06, 2008, 03:05:41 AM
in addition to every thing about alliance that has been said, we could have a formal alliance with micheal savage a right winged jewish leader who has his own rdio show called savage nation. he could help us in term  to attract more people to our organization
Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: IslamIsCancer on July 06, 2008, 03:43:30 AM
These people are blind imbecilic Bush myrmidons... Check this out:

Their victories in battle provide for our fireworks, flags and picnics - and, we believe, provide hope and reassurance for the people of the Middle East that moderation and modernity can prevail for them as well as for us.

This is not even funny...

Title: Re: An alliance
Post by: eb22 on July 06, 2008, 03:48:47 AM
     One Israeli based organization that might be worth pursuing an alliance with is the Women for Israel's Tomorrow (Women in Green) organization.      Chaim has offered praise for them on more than one occasion.