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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: A True Conservative on February 23, 2009, 12:48:27 AM
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I think it doesn't. Liberals are always quick to point out that crime correlates with poverty. I don't know if that's true but even if does correlate it still doesn't prove that crime causes poverty. It could be possible that it correlates because individuals in poverty behave the way they do because of their nature or culture, and middle and upper class people behave better for the same reasons. I doubt that if they were taken out of their poverty they would behave any better.
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I think it doesn't. Liberals are always quick to point out that crime correlates with poverty. I don't know if that's true but even if does correlate it still doesn't prove that crime causes poverty. It could be possible that it correlates because individuals in poverty behave the way they do because of their nature or culture, and middle and upper class people behave better for the same reasons. I doubt that if they were taken out of their poverty they would behave any better.
Often this is used as an excuse for bad behavior. Each case must be judged based on the circumstances. There are legitimate reasons for someone to steal food because they need to eat. Luckily in America we don't have people who are starving because we do have a plethora of programs which prevent people from starving. I don't think that stealing for any other reason besides for hunger are valid. According to Jewish law the solution when a person steals is that they are sold into slavery. I know this because our last Shabbat we reviewed these laws. I believe that when a person steals they must be held accountable. We must remember that the reason that the generation of Noah was exterminated was because of rampant theft.
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Often this is used as an excuse for bad behavior. Each case must be judged based on the circumstances. There are legitimate reasons for someone to steal food because they need to eat. Luckily in America we don't have people who are starving because we do have a plethora of programs which prevent people from starving. I don't think that stealing for any other reason besides for hunger are valid. According to Jewish law the solution when a person steals is that they are sold into slavery. I know this because our last Shabbat we reviewed these laws. I believe that when a person steals they must be held accountable. We must remember that the reason that the generation of Noah was exterminated was because of rampant theft.
I'm not talking about that. The liberals excuse Blacks when they murder and rape and blame poverty for it.
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Often this is used as an excuse for bad behavior. Each case must be judged based on the circumstances. There are legitimate reasons for someone to steal food because they need to eat. Luckily in America we don't have people who are starving because we do have a plethora of programs which prevent people from starving. I don't think that stealing for any other reason besides for hunger are valid. According to Jewish law the solution when a person steals is that they are sold into slavery. I know this because our last Shabbat we reviewed these laws. I believe that when a person steals they must be held accountable. We must remember that the reason that the generation of Noah was exterminated was because of rampant theft.
I'm not talking about that. The liberals excuse Blacks when they murder and rape and blame poverty for it.
No, there is no excuse for murder and rape... I would never even entertain the thought that poverty causes people to be violent. All one must do is look at the Jewish ghettos and see that the Jewish people persevered in very oppressive times and continued to be professionals in many fields instead of resorting to crime.
Only in the case of more primitive cultures does poverty cause an increase in violent crime.
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For example, it's a fact that Muslim bums in Europe commit more rape and they're in poverty. The Bolshevik, leftist scum in Europe would blame that on poverty and not the savage behavior of these Muslim criminals.
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No, there is no excuse for murder and rape... I would never even entertain the thought that poverty causes people to be violent. All one must do is look at the Jewish ghettos and see that the Jewish people persevered in very oppressive times and continued to be professionals in many fields instead of resorting to crime.
Only in the case of more primitive cultures does poverty cause an increase in violent crime.
I changed my poll and reset the votes. You can vote again.
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For example, it's a fact that Muslim bums in Europe commit more rape and they're in poverty. The Bolshevik, leftist scum in Europe would blame that on poverty and not the savage behavior of these Muslim criminals.
It is a simple problem with the left in general to constantly blame the victims instead of the perpetrator of the crime.
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Muman, I once read a post where you said after you voted for Reagan you started voting Democrat. I'm assuming you changed back to Conservative. Were you a liberal before? You seem like a very moral person. If you were a liberal why were you one in the first place and why did you change?
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People do the crimes, not poverty!!! Rich or poor, people still commit crimes because of the evil in their hearts. The crimes of the rich are just not as apparent because they can cover it up better than poor people!
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People do the crimes, not poverty!!! Rich or poor, people still commit crimes because of the evil in their hearts. The crimes of the rich are just not as apparent because they can cover it up better than poor people!
You mean the Wall street bankers?
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certain wealthy blacks also are a part of crime
and certain very educated blacks will do harmful things...
SO really, it has nothing to do with poverty with this culturual group.
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Blacks have been taken out of poverty.
They have the same, if not better, opportunities to acheive.
What has changed about their overall behavior?
If we don't stop making excuses for stupid, lazy and evil behavior, it's all over.
That goes for people of any color!
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Often this is used as an excuse for bad behavior. Each case must be judged based on the circumstances. There are legitimate reasons for someone to steal food because they need to eat. Luckily in America we don't have people who are starving because we do have a plethora of programs which prevent people from starving. I don't think that stealing for any other reason besides for hunger are valid. According to Jewish law the solution when a person steals is that they are sold into slavery. I know this because our last Shabbat we reviewed these laws. I believe that when a person steals they must be held accountable. We must remember that the reason that the generation of Noah was exterminated was because of rampant theft.
I'm not talking about that. The liberals excuse Blacks when they murder and rape and blame poverty for it.
and my excuse is that many poor immigrants worked hard and made a living and never stole...so that's the answer for those buffoons who think they know everything.
btw, who's that man on your portfolio?
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Blacks have been taken out of poverty.
They have the same, if not better, opportunities to acheive.
What has changed about their overall behavior?
If we don't stop making excuses for stupid, lazy and evil behavior, it's all over.
That goes for people of any color!
Great post Bullcat... couldn't have said it better myself!
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I cant believe Im the only one who said Yes.
That DOESNT mean that the main reason why blacks are violent is wealth but it is A contributing factor.
Watch what happens with violence this summer.
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I suspect that some crime would decrease if poverty were to be eleminated. However a great deal of crime seems to be anger at past wrongs and "getting back at whitey"
We also live in a culture that glorifies the rich even though most of the rich are not very nice people. So, when people are unable to get what they think is comming to them, or what they see on TV as being the "way to live", these people act out in ways that try to gratify this craving.
street cleanrers and sewer workers are on the front lines of protecting all of us from disease, yet they are looked down on, while people whos only skill and interest is to catch or throw a ball, or who have "a great body" are treated with a fanatical level of interest by the public.
America's ego is writing checks its body cant cash"....ok ok so I could not resist a Top Gun line, it does fit though.
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I think it does to an extent. Also I do not feel safe in poverty improvised areas