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Title: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 11:20:11 AM
  Today I was asked by people that are having a major MARCH on W.D.C. to be one of the key Speakers.  Along with Berg, Keyes, and different Colonels and Generals. 

  I have been staying offline a lot because anti-semitism and the persecution against Christians has just about sickened me.  This is a pivotal time, as this is something that I would have wanted to do for my whole entire life, BUT, I need SOUND words, because quite frankly, I would tell people FLAT OUT that WORDS are OVER..
and
it
is
time;
TO OVERTHROW.   

I will NOT go to WDC WITHOUT doing this, so please help.
I AM OPEN to Jewish council as well as GOOD SOLID Christian council---> now. 
Ty.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: briann on March 04, 2009, 11:24:19 AM
  Today I was asked by people that are having a major MARCH on W.D.C. to be one of the key Speakers.  Along with Berg, Keyes, and different Colonels and Generals. 

  I have been staying offline a lot because anti-semitism and the persecution against Christians has just about sickened me.  This is a pivotal time, as this is something that I would have wanted to do for my whole entire life, BUT, I need SOUND words, because quite frankly, I would tell people FLAT OUT that WORDS are OVER..
and
it
is
time;
TO OVERTHROW.   

I will NOT go to WDC WITHOUT doing this, so please help.
I AM OPEN to Jewish council as well as GOOD SOLID Christian council---> now. 
Ty.

Do you need some ideas for your speech?  Is this your first speech?
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
No, I speak all the time, I need to know if this is a bad decision, b/c I WILL call for an OVERTHROW
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 04, 2009, 12:02:58 PM
Do it. Somebody's gotta have balls.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: muman613 on March 04, 2009, 12:07:35 PM
I say that you should give the speech but you should not call for Overthrow... Just be very clear about the evil and danger which Obama brings in the WH. If you should say things which are seditious you may be held accountable. A speaker must consider the truth, his/her safety, and the audience when speaking.

Do not throw away good opportunities...
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 04, 2009, 12:13:20 PM
Paulette, as much as I support you I have to agree with Muman that you shouldn't be using the word "overthrow". That would just cause the Secret Service to arrest you. I say this not because I don't want him overthrown, but because I want you to be safe. Consider "rise up" or "take our country back" or something similar.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 04, 2009, 12:36:58 PM
You can publicize JTF. Say overthrow, publicize JTF, go to jail for a bit, and Chaim gets on National TV thanks to you. We'll bail you out in no time, and you could be responsible for making JTF the national movement is should be. 8)
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: mord on March 04, 2009, 12:37:22 PM
Quote
Consider "rise up" or "take our country back" or something similar.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ALTERNATIVE FROM C.F.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Dagger on March 04, 2009, 12:39:41 PM
Paulette,

I must agree with C.F. & muman613

If you WILL use the words "TO OVERTHROW"  DO NOT go to WDC!!  :o

Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind....you MUST choose your dosage administration with GREAT care!

The LAST place you want to end up is prison.
 

Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lisa on March 04, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
Be sure to emphasize that Obama is really a Muslim, and how every move he's made thus far as President has been to cozy up to Muslim terrorists.  Mention that the mainstream press cannot be trusted, in that they're in the tank for Obama, so they'll never tell the truth.  And make sure to point out that Obama is most likely not even a natural born citizen. 

So go there and proudly say what needs to be said!  Good luck!
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 12:42:38 PM
Paulette,

I must agree with C.F. & muman613

If you WILL use the words "TO OVERTHROW"  DO NOT go to WDC!!  :o

Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind....you MUST choose your dosage administration with GREAT care!

The LAST place you want to end up is prison.
 



Yes, I know, I am CRAZY.  But I really am not crazy, its everyone else thats nuts.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 04, 2009, 12:43:49 PM
Paulette,

I must agree with C.F. & muman613

If you WILL use the words "TO OVERTHROW"  DO NOT go to WDC!!  :o

Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind....you MUST choose your dosage administration with GREAT care!

The LAST place you want to end up is prison.
 



Yes, I know, I am CRAZY.  But I really am not crazy, its everyone else thats nuts.

Think of what Rav Kahane would do.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: New Yorker on March 04, 2009, 12:46:35 PM

I'd first use the terms Take Back America from the leftist extremists, restore the Constitution, to make what I am saying clear, then the term Overthrow is in it's correct context. It's not the "overthrow" of America, it's the overthrow of the seditious bastards that are undermining the nation for their traitorous neo-communist agenda.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: mord on March 04, 2009, 12:46:38 PM
TRUE BUT EVERYONE'S NOT RAV KAHANE AND WILLING TO BE QUESTIONED BY SECRET SERVICE.IN ALL PROBABILITIES SHE WOULDN'T BUT I STILL THINK WHAT C.F. SAID IS THE WISE CHOICE.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 04, 2009, 12:48:31 PM
This is still JTF's oppurtunity
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 12:58:41 PM
Well, lets see if Chaim sees it and what he will think of this, he knows Im not nuts and everyone else is nuts.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 04, 2009, 01:02:13 PM
Paulette, I know you're not crazy. I just don't want to see you go to jail. Just change your words a bit.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 01:06:20 PM
Paulette, I know you're not crazy. I just don't want to see you go to jail. Just change your words a bit.

Yeah, I know what your saying.. You know Im not scared. But, this could be death for me.  I dont know- this is a big decision.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: briann on March 04, 2009, 01:06:29 PM
No, I speak all the time, I need to know if this is a bad decision, b/c I WILL call for an OVERTHROW

Bless you for you convictions.

Its good to start the seeds of a revolution... .but I would wait a bit before outright calling for Obama to be overthrown.

Calls for a revolution need to be done when people are more desperate.. AND we are no where NEAR the bottom of the economic cycle... SO I'd wait at least a year.  By then... people will be MUCH angrier... and your speech will be much more relevant.





Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 01:09:15 PM
No, I speak all the time, I need to know if this is a bad decision, b/c I WILL call for an OVERTHROW

Bless you for you convictions.

Its good to start the seeds of a revolution... .but I would wait a bit before outright calling for Obama to be overthrown.

Calls for a revolution need to be done when people are more desperate.. AND we are no where NEAR the bottom of the economic cycle... SO I'd wait at least a year.  By then... people will be MUCH angrier... and your speech will be much more relevant.







Its Sept 13 and 14.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 04, 2009, 01:10:55 PM
Well, you have a lot of time to prepare yourself and get ready then. Carefully pray over what you are about to say, and share it with several friends and see what they say to your speech.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
Well, you have a lot of time to prepare yourself and get ready then. Carefully pray over what you are about to say, and share it with several friends and see what they say to your speech.

Yes, I will give a SPECIAL Yemach schemo to GINSBERG and Rick Warren..... >:(
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: briann on March 04, 2009, 01:14:42 PM
No, I speak all the time, I need to know if this is a bad decision, b/c I WILL call for an OVERTHROW

Bless you for you convictions.

Its good to start the seeds of a revolution... .but I would wait a bit before outright calling for Obama to be overthrown.

Calls for a revolution need to be done when people are more desperate.. AND we are no where NEAR the bottom of the economic cycle... SO I'd wait at least a year.  By then... people will be MUCH angrier... and your speech will be much more relevant.







Its Sept 13 and 14.

Ohhh.. Thats different.   Hmmmm....    thats a tough call.   I think it all depends upon what happens between now and then.  I will just say, that with each passing month.... your voice will be more and more well received.  
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: P J C on March 04, 2009, 02:20:52 PM
Overthrow is a poor concept of speech and idea. You should however talk about how this country is brain dead and the Days of Reagan were the REAL glory days of America.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 04, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
Overthrow is a poor concept of speech and idea. You should however talk about how this country is brain dead and the Days of Reagan were the REAL glory days of America.

Yes, PJC... you see it would NOT be a speech then, I would YELL REVOLT and GET RID OF THIS EVIL THING IN THE CAMP, and if you dont do this NOW, it will NEVER be done.  Just as Joshua was instructed to get the EVIL OUT OF THE CAMP.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: briann on March 04, 2009, 02:42:17 PM
Overthrow is a poor concept of speech and idea.

It would be now... but not when things are much worse.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 04, 2009, 04:55:36 PM
Yes, I will give a SPECIAL Yemach schemo to GINSBERG and Rick Warren..... >:(
Amen to that. Maybe those two whores will hook up sometime before she croaks of her cancer.

Just for the record though, her spelling is Ginsburg. Ginsberg is the spelling used by the late gay pig Allen Ginsberg, the sodomist countercultural "poet" of the 1960s who was Michael Faggot's homosexual lover.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: muman613 on March 05, 2009, 12:34:23 AM
Paulette,

I must agree with C.F. & muman613

If you WILL use the words "TO OVERTHROW"  DO NOT go to WDC!!  :o

Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind....you MUST choose your dosage administration with GREAT care!

The LAST place you want to end up is prison.
 



Yes, I know, I am CRAZY.  But I really am not crazy, its everyone else thats nuts.

Did you get this line from Pink Floyd? (I doubt it but it sounds very similar)

From "Speak to Me" on Dark Side of the Moon

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the
most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even
if you're not mad..."
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: The One and Only Mo on March 05, 2009, 12:35:55 AM
No matter what you say, you must publicize JTF.
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on March 05, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
Paulette, I am proud of you and your efforts, you go get um Girl! Do take Muman's advise and not mention an overthrow because we know what type of crook this imposter is! You go and and raise a ruckus! I really am so proud of you for your bravery, and love for Israel and the United States. May G-d bless you and always keep you safe!


P.S. keep us informed  -
I hope you can use the word Impeachment instead.                       


                                                       Shalom Sis - Dox      : )
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 05, 2009, 05:28:52 PM
No matter what you say, you must publicize JTF.

OF COURSE Mo! Silly!! TY DOX.  8)
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on March 05, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
AsheDina, I know you are so busy, but when you have a free minute, please call me so I can give you best wishes and some advise before your trip. Talk to you later ...hugs!  Dox
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: arksis on March 05, 2009, 07:58:11 PM
AsheDina, you are so brave and G-d bless you for doing this and giving the rest of us to have the courage to some day do the same thing. I feel so honored to be here with so many of you, please accept my humble thanks!
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 05, 2009, 08:09:03 PM
Paulette, I like the advice that several others have given. Here's some condensed advice.

1: Don't use the term "overthrow". Like I said, say something like "rise up" or "take the country back". The word "overthrow" can be very easily interpreted to mean a call to violence by our Bolshevik court system, and they will not ignore calls to revolution that are made by the right, regardless of how many times Muslim Nazis and Black Panthers get away with that. You are much too precious a sister and too important a part of our movement to go down over this. I care about you and don't want to see this happen to you.

By the way, I do not want to see Obama overthrown. What do I mean? If human beings overthrew Obama, then it would be seen as the result of human action and not, at least directly, the hand of G-d. G-d can do with any leader whatever he wants, but in my opinion violence would not show his hand in the matter the most clearly. What I would really like to see is G-d striking Obama low with a fearful, woeful disease. If Obama were to suddenly develop congestive heart failure, gangrene, or bone cancer, people would know the L-rd did it whether or not they want to admit it. You can even call on the crowd to pray for G-d to "bless" him with one of these wonderful afflictions if you so wish.

2: Promote JTF. Promote JTF as much as you can during your speaking time. Say the names of both the English and Hebrew websites. Plug, plug, plug!

3: Don't forget the good ol' yimach schmo to Rick Whoren and kin!  ;D
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on March 06, 2009, 01:12:06 AM
Will there be video footage of this speech?
Title: Re: PLEASE HELP- I NEED WISDOM ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO- VERY IMPORTANT.
Post by: AsheDina on March 06, 2009, 07:39:25 AM
Will there be video footage of this speech?

YES.  I thank you all, I WANT to 'overthrow' I realize that I cannot do this in my power, however, I was asked b/c I am a powerful speaker.  THANK YOU- and YES- YEMACH SCHEMO to WARREN the pseudo Christian that needs to R E P E N T- for CF lol..