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Meet fierce blonde behind Obama eligibility lawsuits
Soviet Union survivor: President spits in face of every U.S. citizen
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
MISSION VIEJO, Calif. – She's the fierce blond attorney behind Obama eligibility lawsuits, a successful dentist with two offices, a second-degree black belt and a mother of three boys who speaks five languages.
Dr. Orly Taitz, a woman with a vibrant smile and an ebullient personality, has not always enjoyed an independent life filled with promise and ambition. She was born and raised in Kishinev (also spelled Chisinau), the capital of the Republic of Moldova, a country in Eastern Europe that was formerly part of the Soviet Union.
Drawing on her experiences under a communist regime, she told WND she is determined to do her part to stop America from following in the all-too-familiar footsteps of her former homeland.
Life under communism
She described her life in a communist nation: Markets were bare, people had no desire to work and the government forced young children into slave labor.
"We'd stop at the store, and the food stores were empty," she said. "I remember we had to stand in lines for hours in the cold. We were in a bus, going home and suddenly we'd see a line. We wouldn't even know what they were selling, but we knew something would be there – some food. We'd stand for two hours to buy maybe a pound of salami or a half a pound of butter."
As a young child, Taitz asked her father why the market shelves were empty.
"In America, they have everything," he would tell her. "The stores are full."
Her father explained that Americans were interested in working and received paychecks based on their productivity. However, in the Soviet Union, farmers were part of a socialist system of collective farming and were compensated equally – regardless of output.
He told her, "If a farmer is bright and hard working, at the end of the month, he will get 100 rubles. And if the farmer is a lazy bum and he does nothing, he gets the same 100 rubles."
Taitz told WND, "People had absolutely no incentive to do anything. They had no incentive to work. The best doctors were getting maybe 150 rubles. That's why the standards for medicine were so low."
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She said that, much like President Obama's proposed brigade of youth organizers, the Soviet Union used children for slave labor.
"They would put us on trucks, and we would go to the countryside," she said. "We were told to go and pick tomatoes."
Parents were not allowed to homeschool their children. They were forced to enroll them in government schools. From the age of 6, all children were required to become young communists.
"You had to send your child to school, and your child had to be a member of the young communists," Taitz said. "There were no children who were not members. You had to do it. If you were one of the best, you become a member of the Communist Party. It was constant brainwashing."
She continued, "There was no choice, and people resented that. They were scared to speak up."
Most children were sent to communist youth camps, but Taitz' parents wouldn't allow her to go. Instead, they gave her stacks of math, physics and chemistry textbooks to study while her friends were away at camps.
"My parents didn't want me to be in those camps and be subjected to communist brainwashing," she said. "They wanted me to think for myself. I learned to read by myself, and my parents sent me to competitions in math, physics, chemistry and biology. I would sit and work with pages of problems, and I loved to compete."
Practice of religion was restricted in the Soviet Union. Churches were closed and repurposed as museums of art.
"You had to be an atheist," Taitz said. "No one could go and pray. You weren't allowed to mention any religion. A lot of priests, ministers and rabbis were sent to Siberia, so people were scared. They didn't celebrate any religious holidays; they just didn't exist."
She said alcohol abuse was rampant and caused the destruction of many lives.
"One of the reasons they had such a serious problem with alcoholism was because there was nothing in people's lives. There was no G-d, no religion, no choice. You had to conform and comply."
During her years living in the Soviet Union, Taitz said friends would constantly talk about finding ways to break away from the system.
"They would tell me, 'This person was very inventive and built a hot-air balloon to get out from East Germany to West Germany, or somebody was able to swim across the border,'" she said. "There were always stories about how people escaped the regime."
With only one TV station in Kishinev, Taitz said reporters spewed communist propaganda.
In 1981, when she was 21, her uncle managed to escape to Israel. He sent her family papers that allowed them to join him there due to their familial relationship.
When Taitz arrived in Israel, she was stunned to discover a free-market society with full stores. In the Soviet Union, there were no fruits or vegetables in the winter. Her family survived on canned foods, bread and pierogis, or dumplings stuffed with various ingredients such as cheese and potatoes.
"I remember when a lady who came to Israel from the Soviet Union went to the store and asked, 'When will we have tomatoes?' She was thinking, maybe March or April," Taitz said.
"The clerk looked at her and said, 'Probably in an hour.'"
For a woman who had lived under a communist regime her whole life, freedom was a new concept she had only imagined after listening to her father's stories.
"It was a completely different feeling, a free feeling," she said. "There were political parties, and you got to choose whichever one you wanted. In the Soviet Union, there was only one."
She lived in Israel for several years and attended the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
Taitz met her future husband, a man living in California who visited his family while she was a practicing dentist in Israel in 1987. Only a couple of months after their introduction, he proposed marriage, and she accepted. Her father was reluctant to let his daughter go, but he eventually relented.
"I was scared. Coming to the U.S. was a big step," she said. "I went to a new country and married a person I hardly knew. I was very scared. So, I came, and right away we drove to Las Vegas."
Still jet lagged from her flight, Taitz was nearly falling asleep as she arrived at a chapel in the center of the Las Vegas strip.
"We paid to have a limo driver act as our witness, and the minister married us," she said. "We got some pictures and sent them to my parents to let them know I wasn't living in sin."
One location of Taitz' dental practice in Southern California (WND photo / Chelsea Schilling)
Dentist, lawyer, broker and mother
Because Taitz had foreign dental training, she was required to take dental board exams to practice in the United States. When she took one of her last tests, she was pregnant with her first son.
"I was seven months pregnant with a big belly," she said. "It was pretty tough."
Taitz passed the dental boards, and her practice grew substantially. She now has two separate dental offices in Mission Viejo and Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. Two dentists work in Taitz' offices each week to assist patients.
Taitz at her dental office (WND photo / Chelsea Schilling)
With a successful practice and a growing family, Taitz decided to enroll in law school at William Howard Taft University. She took distance courses and studied from home in the evenings.
"I just got books and tapes and studied until I passed the exams," she said. "I passed the California bar, and it is said to be one of the more difficult ones in the nation. When I passed, there was only a 50 percent passing rate."
With three young sons, Taitz volunteered at her children's school every Tuesday for 10 years and reserved evenings and weekends for her family.
When her sons enrolled in Taekwondo classes, she eagerly joined them – earning her own second-degree black belt.
With a strong desire to see the world, Taitz has traveled to 40 countries. In addition to English, she speaks Russian, Romanian, Hebrew and Spanish and has a strong understanding of German because her grandparents spoke the language.
When she sold her California home, Taitz also earned her real estate broker's license to save on commission from the sale. She said she plans to renew it when the eligibility lawsuits have been resolved.
Obama eligibility lawsuits
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen
During the recent election campaigns, Taitz paid close attention and grew concerned when stories about President Obama's birth simply didn't add up. She followed Philip Berg's eligibility lawsuit and several other similar complaints across the nation.
On Oct 25, 2008, she sent an e-mail to Debra Bowen, secretary of state of California, urging her to verify Obama's citizenship status before the elections.
"I wrote, 'I'm an attorney in Southern California, and I am greatly concerned about Barack Obama's eligibility,'" she said.
Taitz told Bowen she believed Obama did not have a legitimate, long-form birth certificate proving that he was born in Hawaii. She argued that if a candidate lacked proper documentation of meeting the natural-born citizen requirement, that candidate should be declared ineligible to run.
"She wrote back that there was no requirement for her to check eligibility," Taitz said. "I asked for a hearing, and I received a letter from her attorney that we would have one. But they lied and never scheduled one. It was appalling that the secretary of state was negligent, reckless, and didn't check eligibility."
Frustrated with the response she received from Bowen's office, Taitz began writing letters to every newspaper she could find. In her letters, she explained why she believed Obama was not eligible and described flaws in the vetting process.
"I wrote that Obama is not eligible to be president and that next time around, we can have Osama bin Laden on our ballots if the only thing one needs to do is write, 'I am eligible,'" she said.
After she wrote the letters, a woman contacted her at her dental office and invited her to a meeting of 200 people in Garden Grove, Calif., to discuss illegal immigration and various political issues. She attended the meeting and met Pastor Wiley Drake, radio host of "Wiley Drake in Buena Park" and vice presidential candidate for America's Independent Party.
Dr. Alan Keyes
Drake complimented Taitz on her speech and asked her to join him on his radio show. When she agreed, he asked how he could help her pursue the eligibility case.
"I said, 'From what I understand, Berg's case was not heard on the merits because they stated that he doesn't have good standing as an ordinary citizen. You are a vice presidential candidate for America's Independent Party. If you agree to be a plaintiff, we will do well."
He said, "Let's do it."
Alan Keyes, the party's nominee for president, agreed to join the lawsuit as a plaintiff. Chairman Markham Robinson added his name and brought another attorney, Gary Kreep, on board. They filed a writ of mandamus in Sacramento on behalf of Keyes, Robinson and Drake and requested that California's electors be barred from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof of Obama's citizenship was produced.
As WND reported, the California court ruled that Bowen "has no 'ministerial duty' to demand detailed proof of citizenship from presidential candidates."
"I decided I couldn't change the pleadings in Alan Keyes' case, but I could file another lawsuit," she said. "So, I got seven plaintiffs and I drove to Los Angeles and filed a case there. By that time, I had a lot of supporters. A lot of people were writing to me, but I asked them to write the Supreme Court of California."
Taking her case to Supreme Court
She said with no explanation, the court denied her lawsuit.
"I could not understand why in the world they denied it," she said. "So I decided to go straight to the U.S. Supreme Court. On Dec. 11, I flew to Washington and filed the case the next day – the last working day before the meeting of the Electoral College."
Originally, she filed with Justice Anthony Kennedy, and he denied it. She resubmitted it to Chief Justice John Roberts, and he distributed it for conference.
"On the Jan. 20, the case was on the docket, and everybody could see it," Taitz said. "Then, right after the inauguration, on Jan. 21, it disappeared. It was as if somebody was trying to please Obama by erasing the docket."
Taitz has stepped up her fight, approaching Justice Antonin Scalia during his appearance in Los Angeles and hand- delivering documents to Chief Justice John Roberts at his appearance at the University of Idaho. She also presented Roberts with the WND petition, consisting of 3,300 pages of names – more than 325,000 at the time – of people demanding the Supreme Court hear the Obama eligibility case.
Taitz' latest challenge to Obama's eligibility is a Quo Warranto case submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, a legal standard that essentially allows citizens to demand on what grounds someone in authority exercises power.
She has 10 state representatives and about 130 members of the U.S. military signed on as plaintiffs in the action.
Reliving communism
Orly Taitz (WND photo / Chelsea Schilling)
"It is interesting that when we go to court challenging Obama's eligibility, I experience such a déjà vu, like I am in the communist Soviet Union again," Taitz said. "I feel, my G-d, I am back in a totalitarian regime. I'm shocked by the total and complete idiocy of those judges who come up with such idiotic excuses about why they refuse to sign a subpoena – something so basic to their jobs – to get his records."
Asked what motivates her continue fighting the eligibility battle, Taitz replied, "I feel that this man is arrogantly spitting in the face of each and every American citizen. I feel like he has just spit in my face. I take it personally that he is trampling on our Constitution and on our laws."
She continued, "Having the experience that I had in the Soviet Union – seeing lack of freedom, lack of a system of justice, lack of judicial integrity, lack of press with integrity, an economic system in shambles – when I saw all that, I began fighting."
Taitz said mainstream media in the United States are becoming much like the Soviet Union press, because they do not provide truthful information about Obama and have pushed for his socialist society. She offered a suggestion for dealing with "detached" and "ignorant" reporters who advocate such a system.
"I would put all of them in one airplane – Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, Katie Couric, Charles Gibson, all of them. I would load a plane with 500 reporters and send them to some village in Siberia or some village in China or Mongolia or Korea or Cuba, and tell them, 'Why don't you survive there for a year,'" she said.
"I guarantee you, after a year they will come here and they'll be to the right of Rush Limbaugh. They'll think Rush Limbaugh is a communist."
Taking a stand
Taitz said if Obama is found to be ineligible, he must be unseated and tried for crimes he committed against citizens of the United States.
"The whole election would be annulled, and all of the laws signed by Obama would be null and void," she said with conviction. "In that case, somebody like Vice President Joe Biden must become president pro tempore for two or three months until we are able to organize a new election."
In Hebrew, "Orly" means "light" – and that's just what Taitz hopes to be for others who are willing to demand proof of Obama's eligibility and take a stand against his socialist plans for the nation.
Drawing on her early life experiences, Taitz issued a word of warning for Americans:
"The worst thing you can ever do is be scared in the face of evil," she said. "Never be too scared to stand tall and speak up."
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Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94377
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Dr. Orly deserves a lot of credit.
She is standing up for and doing something about an issue that many others may believe, but are scared to go against the present Administration.
She is a brave strong woman.
And I am going to do whatever I can to support her in this very important cause.
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She appears to be a Jewish woman who abandoned Israel to come to America, and has now converted outside the Jewish faith.
If this is true, then this woman is a traitor to the Jewish people. Jews who abandon Judaism are traitors and are not going to be promoted on this forum.
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She appears to be a Jewish woman who abandoned Israel to come to America, and has now converted outside the Jewish faith.
If this is true, then this woman is a traitor to the Jewish people. Jews who abandon Judaism are traitors and are not going to be promoted on this forum.
Chaim,
I respectfully understand your position.
But, with that being said, she is doing something about Obama that no one else is doing and that is admirable and important.
When no one is diligent and or pushing forward on the issue of Obama's eligibility.
And if this woman is going to do it whatever her faith may be, when others won't do it; as an American Jewish woman, I can appreciate that someone is doing something about this sham of a President, who by the second is working his agenda to destroy the U.S.A..
I repect and value opinion.
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One other note about Dr. Orly.
You don't have to promote the woman to understand and support her cause.
Would it be preferable that a Jewish person was going after Obama?
Yes, it would be.
But, presently there isn't.
There is Dr. Orly and she's going after him.
I prefer someone, rather than no one.
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In Torah Judaism, the ends do not always justify the means. We are not permitted to make a pact with the devil to achieve some short-term goal.
To justify the destruction of Jewish souls just so that a woman can file lawsuits against Obama is certainly forbidden. Her lawsuits have zero chance of succeeding. There is no way that the courts are going to rule that Obama's presidency is illegitimate (even though it is).
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Deart Chaim i don't think she converted from being Jewish she states she meet her husband in Israel
Taitz met her future husband, a man living in California who visited his family while she was a practicing dentist in Israel in 1987
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I just read the article. Where does it say she left the Jewish faith?
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I just read the article. Where does it say she left the Jewish faith?Â
Deart Chaim i don't think she converted from being Jewish she states she meet her husband in Israel Taitz met her future husband, a man living in California who visited his family while she was a practicing dentist in Israel in 1987
I did not catch where it is stated that she left the Jewish faith either.
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Sorry, I dont agree. J4J people, whether this forum hates them or not, OR deems them traitors--they are the ONLY ones that stand by the Jewish people and Israeli Jewish in the Paltalk chatrooms. They dont missionize or preach. They are just there, and they are all friends with each-other.
Even these people can see that Israel in great danger, and conversion or not, they also know they have to face sick anti-semitism as well.
As long as people MIND THEIR OWN business and love my brethren, I could care less.
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She was interviewed on Arutz sheva, I don't think they would speak to her if she has left the Jewish faith. Normally the Arutz Sheva people are extra strict in this kind of issues.
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I am not going to judge her harshly. I have listened to her talk on IsraelNationalNews/A7 and she makes a lot of sense. I agree that she is not going to succeed in her attempts to unseat Osama. It is good that she keeps attention on this issue as the chimp will soon find his popularity waning.
I dont know if she has abandoned the faith. I am understanding of some Jews questioning Hashem as members of my family have these issues.
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
This is an article on hert site not by her
Do you understand this, or do you need a rocket exploding in your back yard to illustrate the point?
Rich Carroll
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
This is an article on hert site not by her
Do you understand this, or do you need a rocket exploding in your back yard to illustrate the point?
Rich Carroll
Mord,
You are right. I just finished reading the article on her site.
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
Zelhar yes, she IS Russian- see this video- it is LONG, but you can see the drawn out process this great woman is going to- to protect Americans.
She says about half way in this long drawn out process that Obama the MOONBAT is putting us through that she is Russian:
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/7779A05C-5413-4C30-ABE5-9186512F7B86/
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She appears to be a Jewish woman who abandoned Israel to come to America, and has now converted outside the Jewish faith.
If this is true, then this woman is a traitor to the Jewish people. Jews who abandon Judaism are traitors and are not going to be promoted on this forum.
Chaim, with all due respect, this woman says she had an uncle who escaped to Israel and later made it possible for her and her family to join him. Why does this make her Jewish?? Is Taitz a Jewish name?
Taitz is her husband's name. If he is Jewish, that doesn't make her Jewish.
Where does the article say she is Jewish? Where does the article say she left the religion?
I correspond with her freqently, and she has expressed sympathy for the way the Jewish have been treated, and Obama's obvious plans for Israel.
If she was Jewish, I'm sure she would have mentioned it
And, even if she were, I would forgive her for converted to another religion and almost anything else- for she is one of the few patriots who offer us any hope at all in kicking the Muslim out of the White House! Her tireless quest to bring the usuper down is nothing short of miraculous!
She is one of the few actually doing something to bring the Muslim down, not (like most of us), just whining to the choir- and I beg to differ; she DOES have a good chance of bringing Obama down. Her lawsuits have gained world-wide recognition, and she will NOT give up.
Let's all get behind this courageous young woman and support her any way we can for the sake of America- and Israel!
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YES TAITZ IS A JEWISH NAME I KNOW A RABBI WITH THAT NAME
HERE IS SOME JEWISH TAITZ http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=RABBI+TAITZ&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
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YES TAITZ IS A JEWISH NAME I KNOW A RABBI WITH THAT NAME
HERE IS SOME JEWISH TAITZ http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=RABBI+TAITZ&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
She is WITH US for HEAVENS SAKE!!!!!! Watch that VIDEO I posted.
Even Kahane said that a Jew becoming a J4J is not the 'worst thing a person could do, the worst is a Jew who does nothing'
Look, My family were forcefully indoctrinated, so, as LONG as J4J's dont BOTHER anyone there is NO problem. If people start shoving themselves on people, this is where I have a MAJOR problem. Chaim, she is with us. If she is a J4J, who cares, none of our business. Traitors are LEFTIST BOLSHEVIKS. PERIOD! Most J4J's are conservatives and right-wing
Jeezzz, priorities are really a necessity. There are EVIL people out there, and a J4J is not an 'evil' person, I know many, and they are sweetie pie people.
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YES TAITZ IS A JEWISH NAME I KNOW A RABBI WITH THAT NAME
HERE IS SOME JEWISH TAITZ http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=RABBI+TAITZ&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
She is WITH US for HEAVENS SAKE!!!!!! Watch that VIDEO I posted.
Even Kahane said that a Jew becoming a J4J is not the 'worst thing a person could do, the worst is a Jew who does nothing'
Look, My family were forcefully indoctrinated, so, as LONG as J4J's dont BOTHER anyone there is NO problem. If people start shoving themselves on people, this is where I have a MAJOR problem. Chaim, she is with us. If she is a J4J, who cares, none of our business. Traitors are LEFTIST BOLSHEVIKS. PERIOD! Most J4J's are conservatives and right-wing
Jeezzz, priorities are really a necessity. There are EVIL people out there, and a J4J is not an 'evil' person, I know many, and they are sweetie pie people.
I agree she's trying with all her might to get rid of the impostor to the Presidency
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I think this name issue is misleading.
According to genealogic name lists I would be a Jew too. My grand-grandmother's name is Karminsky. Of cause I am not Jewish.
A lot of people have names, that are sounding Jewish, but even more non-Jews as Jews have this names.
So the only way is to ask Mrs. Orly about this issue.
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What about non-Jews who promote her or support her cause?
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I think this name issue is misleading.
According to genealogic name lists I would be a Jew too. My grand-grandmother's name is Karminsky. Of cause I am not Jewish.
A lot of people have names, that are sounding Jewish, but even more non-Jews as Jews have this names.
So the only way is to ask Mrs. Orly about this issue.
That's true. The only last names that you can be completely sure are Jewish last names are Hebrew names such as Cohen or Levy.
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What about non-Jews who promote her or support her cause?
They are all on THIS forum, angry & I support her 100%.
GO GIRL, get the B*STARD!
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
it's not a russian name. Taitz isn't russian either.
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
it's not a russian name. Taitz isn't russian either.
well SORRY T H J- we know how you LOVE the Muslim HUSSEIN, but Orly SAYS she is RUSSIAN in the video I posted.
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May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.
Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html
However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?
it's not a russian name. Taitz isn't russian either.
well SORRY T H J- we know how you LOVE the Muslim HUSSEIN, but Orly SAYS she is RUSSIAN in the video I posted.
there are more than a few jews in russia. Actually, there are multitudes of different nationalities in russia.
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I am glad she is going after Obama legally...I don't think Obama can ignore those lawsuits forever.
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1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.
2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.
3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.
4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.
5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.
6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.
7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.
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Anyone who abandons Israel after living there is a piece of drek in my opinion. I have never met a good jew who lived in Israel and then left. Only the evil gush shalom drek do that.
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1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.
2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.
3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.
4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.
5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.
6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.
7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.
As much respect I have for you, I have to disagree with your post. Just because she divorced her husband doesn't mean she's anti-semite, Nor if she married a Christian. My parents are not from the same branch of Christianity, yet are legal married. Israel has ALLOT of problems, At current state why would anyone choose it over the USA. It's not Israel's fault, It's the violence caused by the Muslims and Arabs who hate the only liberal democratic country in the middle east. Israel is by far the most advanced country in the middle east, but that doesn't make it safe. If you cast your mind back to 1991 I believe when saddam was launching scuds at Tel-aviv, a coastle city. Prehps Israeal and the United states are the only safe heavens for the Jewish people. Is she really that bad for trying to persive a better life. The whole world doens't hate Israel. they condem it when Hamas lauch Qassams and Israel launches ballistic missles. Also you can't bad mouth christains. Most states that are Christian have freedom for people to practice their relgion. Yet Israel deosn't have those same rights( I am perfectly fine with it, since it's the only jewish state, and it has more rights then any muslim nation).
We Also need to see this from the Arab side, To them white people and jews came and stole their land, It's like when 1million muslims move to a small US city, then demand independence. I would be pissed, and so would you.
My new point is about how you always say the Arabs hate the jews. That's not true, there are jewish arabs and christian ones who like Israel. Only 20% of Muslims are Arabs.
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Thanks for this Information. Dr. Orly is a brave and courageous woman. I wondered what happened to Phil Berg's lawsuit. Looks like Obama has alot of judges in his pockets!
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I have read Chaim's post.
In one point he is totally right.
Either you are Jewish or you are Christian. There is nothing in between.
Syncretism is schizophrenic. No offense to anybody here.
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I agree on the point of J4J being VERY dangerous to the Jewish people. These people attempt to blur the lines between pure Jewish belief and a non-Kosher religion.
It is very sad that these people have turned their backs on Israel and the Jews....
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1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.
2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.
3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.
4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.
5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.
6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.
7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.
As much respect I have for you, I have to disagree with your post. Just because she divorced her husband doesn't mean she's anti-semite, Nor if she married a Christian. My parents are not from the same branch of Christianity, yet are legal married. Israel has ALLOT of problems, At current state why would anyone choose it over the USA. It's not Israel's fault, It's the violence caused by the Muslims and Arabs who hate the only liberal democratic country in the middle east. Israel is by far the most advanced country in the middle east, but that doesn't make it safe. If you cast your mind back to 1991 I believe when saddam was launching scuds at Tel-aviv, a coastle city. Prehps Israeal and the United states are the only safe heavens for the Jewish people. Is she really that bad for trying to persive a better life. The whole world doens't hate Israel. they condem it when Hamas lauch Qassams and Israel launches ballistic missles. Also you can't bad mouth christains. Most states that are Christian have freedom for people to practice their relgion. Yet Israel deosn't have those same rights( I am perfectly fine with it, since it's the only jewish state, and it has more rights then any muslim nation).
We Also need to see this from the Arab side, To them white people and jews came and stole their land, It's like when 1million muslims move to a small US city, then demand independence. I would be pissed, and so would you.
My new point is about how you always say the Arabs hate the jews. That's not true, there are jewish arabs and christian ones who like Israel. Only 20% of Muslims are Arabs.
Mizrachi Jews are not Arabs! Most Arab Christians other than a few exceptions such as Joseph Farrah and Walid Shoebat are loyal to the Arab people and hate the Jews.
Your point about "seeing this from the Arab side" is also rediculous. It is impossible to compare events in Israel to events in America.
As for "pursuing a better life," that's not what Judaism is all about. Materialistic galut Jews care only about "pursuing a better life." All Jews in Israel could make yeridah to "pursue a better life" in America, but there would be no Israel left.
Regarding J4J, they are a sick cult that should be condemned by both Jews and righteous gentiles.
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Moshe, you are quite young, but yet you're so intelligent!
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Thanks, Mishmaat
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1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.
2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.
3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.
4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.
5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.
6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.
7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.
1. Maybe Dr. Orly DID get into Israel improperly. Wouldn't YOU do anything to get out of Communist Russia?
2. That doesn't mean Dr. Orly is Jewish
3. It could be she is 'one of the few Gentiles' to attend this school.
4. I have a cousin with a Jewish name. She's not Jewish. Her mother chose that name because she thought it pretty.
5. She fell in love with an American.
In my conversations with her, she expresses a love for the Jewish people and a desire to save Israel by bringing the Muslim down.
6. We can't be positive she or her husband are Jewish.
7. Being a gentile, I don't know anything about J4J- but I do know that I am pro-Israel and I have the greatest respect and admiration for the Jewish people. This is how Dr. Orly feels.
That should be the top priority here!
As I said, I would forgive her for converting to another religion and almost anything else- for she is one of the few patriots who offer us any hope at all in kicking the Muslim out of the White House!
Her endless blogs, radio and TV show appearances and her lawsuits have drawn world-wide attention to the fact that we have a Muslim usuper sitting in the White House.
She has put a spotlight on Muslim Obama and the rest of the Democratic cockroaches and their frantic efforts to drive America down the road to Socialism and Communism.
Obama's ratings are falling.
There are tax/Obama protest 'tea parties' all across America this Wednesday, April 15 by angry Americans.
(There are over 60 'tea parties' alone in my state of Texas- and I will be leading the one in my city of Corpus Christi)
Americans are beginning to wake up as to what Obama is.
Dr. Orly's tireless quest to bring the usuper down is nothing short of miraculous! For this I thank G-d for Dr. Orly- and I pray for Him to keep her safe.
Frankly, I am puzzled and a little hurt in regard to some of the comments that have been made by a few people on this thread about non-Jews.
A lot of Gentiles are on your side.
I have the utmost admiration and respect for the Jewish people, and you all are well aware of the fact that few here at JTF worked harder than I to try to keep the Muslim from being elected.
I was here every day with the message to get the word out to the voters. I put my life on hold to try to help prevent America from putting this Marxist/Muslim into the White House.
Now I feel somehow a little strange- and perhaps a bit unwelcome here.
Dr. Orly on live TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVGiHxdjDk&feature=PlayList&p=801A32C49B51A3B7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVGiHxdjDk&feature=PlayList&p=801A32C49B51A3B7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
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1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.
2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.
3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.
4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.
5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.
6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.
7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.
Chaim,
I really love everything you say but I do think you are a bit harsh on Aishedina here. Some people don't really understand our anger at J4J and it is difficult to explain it to them. I share your opinion about them but I would not be so hard on her, and others here.
I think saying something like this in public may have hurt a loved members feelings.
Thank you
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Chaim,
I really love everything you say but I do think you are a bit harsh on Aishedina here. Some people don't really understand our anger at J4J and it is difficult to explain it to them. I share your opinion about them but I would not be so hard on her, and others here.
I think saying something like this in public may have hurt a loved members feelings.
Thank you
Chaim needed to be very firm on this. It was brought up in public and he had to reply in public. J4J are a threat to the Jewish people that can not be tolerated on this forum. Chaim was not wishy washy, he firmly stated the JTF position and he should be commended for it.
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@Cyberella, We have issue with Jews who renounce their faith and their people. From our perspective, they are still Jews, only bad ones who pretend to be unjewish. When such a person expresses his love and support to the Jewish people as if he were an outsider, well, we can't just accept such an offer. In fact it seems like chutzpa from our perspective.
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Sorry, these people defend Israel and Jews in the chat-rooms and NEVER bother me. If this is the way you all feel, then Bye.
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Sorry, these people defend Israel and Jews in the chat-rooms and NEVER bother me. If this is the way you all feel, then Bye.
This isn't how we all feel. I might not be no hardcore member. But I agree with you rather than anyone else.
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J4J is an organization whose sole purpose is to snatch Jewish souls. Any Jew who joins them is a traitor.
From the outset, we made it clear here that we will not tolerate missionary activity, nor attempts to justify or legitimize missionary activity.
All the support in the world is not worth one lost Jewish soul.
We Jews do not missionize anyone, and we do not want to be missionized.
That is our policy.