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The Christian Idenity sect belives that the Jews and Arabs are decendants of the devil. They have the dual seed line idenity. The belive that the non-Caucasiod races such as those of the Mongoliods and Negeriods to be of pre-Adamic decent. In the graden of Eden God creates a man and breathes his soul which was the first "Aryan" man, then took a rip of Adam and created Eve which was the first "Aryan" women they also belive that the graden was around the Tarim Basin between India and China. The serpent the devil tempts Eve into sexual union and Cain is born the father of the Jews and Arabs. This idiot clut claims that modern Jews are not Israelites but the fake Celto-Germanics are Israelites. The Anglo-Saxons refered to their father Japati meaning Japeith, like the Africans who refered to their father Ham or Cham! Here is info on the Serpernt daul line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm http://www.kingidentity.com/ http://www.StørmFrønt.org/posterity/ci/
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The Christian Idenity sect belives that the Jews and Arabs are decendants of the devil. They have the dual seed line idenity. The belive that the non-Caucasiod races such as those of the Mongoliods and Negeriods to be of pre-Adamic decent. In the graden of Eden G-d creates a man and breathes his soul which was the first "Aryan" man, then took a rip of Adam and created Eve which was the first "Aryan" women they also belive that the graden was around the Tarim Basin between India and China. The serpent the devil tempts Eve into sexual union and Cain is born the father of the Jews and Arabs. This idiot clut claims that modern Jews are not Israelites but the fake Celto-Germanics are Israelites. The Anglo-Saxons refered to their father Japati meaning Japeith, like the Africans who refered to their father Ham or Cham! Here is info on the Serpernt daul line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm http://www.kingidentity.com/ http://www.StørmFrønt.org/posterity/ci/
LOL LOL you know half white supremacists think their nuts
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The Christian Idenity sect belives that the Jews and Arabs are decendants of the devil. They have the dual seed line idenity. The belive that the non-Caucasiod races such as those of the Mongoliods and Negeriods to be of pre-Adamic decent. In the graden of Eden G-d creates a man and breathes his soul which was the first "Aryan" man, then took a rip of Adam and created Eve which was the first "Aryan" women they also belive that the graden was around the Tarim Basin between India and China. The serpent the devil tempts Eve into sexual union and Cain is born the father of the Jews and Arabs. This idiot clut claims that modern Jews are not Israelites but the fake Celto-Germanics are Israelites. The Anglo-Saxons refered to their father Japati meaning Japeith, like the Africans who refered to their father Ham or Cham! Here is info on the Serpernt daul line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm http://www.kingidentity.com/ http://www.StørmFrønt.org/posterity/ci/
LOL LOL you know half white supremacists think their nuts
Yes they are the [censored] of the White Nationalist movment because they know its [censored]
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They are like the white version of the guys who used to hang out at Time Square years ago who would claim to be the "original Jews". ::)
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They are like the white version of the guys who used to hang out at Time Square years ago who would claim to be the "original Jews". ::)
True those white idiots are more of danger to Jews than the Black Hebrews this because no one takes blacks seriously lol. Thats the difference.
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I don't think anyone takes the CI nutjobs seriously either, including most blacks who seem them as nothing but poor trailer park whites who want to feel important.
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The real reason that CI is dangerous is because of these part Jewish trash who know enough of Judaism to twist it http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=3394.0
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The real reason that CI is dangerous is because of these part Jewish trash who know enough of Judaism to twist it http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=3394.0
Yes thats is why its dangours, these part Jewish trash just hate themselves sadly!
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The CI doesn't just hate jews and muslims. They hate all southern europeans too. They think italians and the like are "race mixed" and were "Once white".
I think the CI also believes they are the pure descendents of israelites.
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I think they like Northern Italians,i din'nt know about other Italians.I know they don'nt like Sicilians
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That probably depends on the person. I've seen a few dark-skinned northern italians.
Theres some CI out there that I met that only think blue eyes/blonde hair is true white. Lol.
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This is a strange group pro Jewish C.I. http://www.britam.org/
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Thats more British-Israelism. Followers of British Isrealism believe jews are descednents of the tribe of judah and Europeans are the descendents of other tribes ( I believe). CI believes that all Norse whites are the "True" israelites and the jews are imposters.
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Bascially those silly morons, who are threatened by Jewish cultural identity and creation theory, have decided to twist it to suit their own racialist agenda.
Nordids are blondized Meds. So the Meds came first anyway. Gosh, how boring!!!
Again ignore these idiots. They could at least come up with something other than plagiarism.
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I'm not good at early European history. But I believe the Pre-indo Europeans came first right? Then came the celts moving in or something. Meds are latins I think, right?
Well anyways, theres only one white race. Southern Europeans have dark skin since they had to adapt to the climate. the Norse have lighter skin since they were exposed to cooler climaes more.
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I'm not good at early European history. But I believe the Pre-indo Europeans came first right? Then came the celts moving in or something. Meds are latins I think, right?
Well anyways, theres only one white race. Southern Europeans have dark skin since they had to adapt to the climate. the Norse have lighter skin since they were exposed to cooler climaes more.
Dude, there are loads of theories which contradict each other. Genetic archaeology is the cutting edge, I think.
I am not sure if the latest theories have concluded that the pre-Indo-Europeans were the Old Meds or not. The Latins of today are not quite the same as the Old Meds.
This website could be informative: www.white-history.com but, they appear to have airbrushed Jewish history out of the white history picture. Not quite sure why, but again, I think that it is because creationism and the cultures which grew from creationism threaten them and/or they wish to avoid the political lead balloon/horror which is/was the national socialist debacle.
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These people are dumber than you think! They think America is Israel or New Jerusalem. They base this on the fact that USA is in Jerusalem! LOL! If you want nuts they got this nut named Pastor Pete Peters who claims that Aliens from outer space are invading earth and working for Satan.
This is just a small example why white supremacists are so low down and weak and why JTF shouldn't be concerned with them. They're all stupid rednecks. We should be more worried about the schvartzas like Al Sharpton and Farakhan. They're stupid too but not that crazy.
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No, I do think that CI (the white version of the Nation of Islam, indeed) and Farrakhan are equally stupid and insane. However, the media will be much more likely to ignore Farrakhan's idiocy.
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Please do write: "Christian" Identity. This cult is crazy, they're neonazis that have taken upon themselves to be the jews.
They forget all the Christian apostles and all the first Christians believers were all JEWISH.
So in their deluded brains since they hate jews have to twist and take scripture out of context to say they're the jews
while in reality jews will always be jews.
These idiots even are making their own "bible" where they remove the word jew.
Check it out:
http://www.anointedstandard.com/
They're idiots and they have the curse of God on them, same as the muslims.
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I am not sure if the latest theories have concluded that the pre-Indo-Europeans were the Old Meds or not. The Latins of today are not quite the same as the Old Meds.
This website could be informative: www.white-history.com but, they appear to have airbrushed Jewish history out of the white history picture. Not quite sure why, but again, I think that it is because creationism and the cultures which grew from creationism threaten them and/or they wish to avoid the political lead balloon/horror which is/was the national socialist debacle.
white-history.com is Nordicist propaganda. They claim that all southern europeans and eastern europeans are race-mixed. But still its alright.
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white-history.com is Nordicist propaganda. They claim that all southern europeans and eastern europeans are race-mixed. But still its alright.
It's a good site, but take what is said there with a grain of salt. Here's one reason why:
http://www.geocities.com/refuting_kemp/
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Correction on the original posting. They do not consider Arabs to be descendants of Satan. In fact on the Aryan Nations' website they had proposed an alliance between the "sons of Abraham through Sarah (Aryans) and those of Hagar and Ketura (Arabs)".
They claim the Jews to be a hybrid race composed of Cain's descendants, Canaanites, Amalek, and just about every other group listed in the Bible as having commited unforgiveable sins, and commanded to be exterminated. And they all found their way to Central Asia, mixed by means of every deviant sexual abomination and formed the Khazar kingdom, and wrote the Talmud as their bible, complete with mysterious tractates such as Libbre David in which the Rabbis discuss how Jesus was the son of an adulterous whore who concieved him during her menstrual impurity. They later simplified the Talmud into the Protocols of Zion, sort of a Talmud for Dummies, and have made subjugating the world and diluting the white race their main priority.
They are not to be taken lightly. Tim McVeigh was known to frequent Sermons at a compound in Oklahoma called Elohim City. Buford Furrow, a member of the Aryan Nations who had killed a fillipino postal worker and when on to shoot up a Jewish day care center was also a Christian Identity practitioner. The Order, as well as many other nazi terror groups in the US claim membership in this cult.
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Correction on the original posting. They do not consider Arabs to be descendants of Satan. In fact on the Aryan Nations' website they had proposed an alliance between the "sons of Abraham through Sarah (Aryans) and those of Hagar and Ketura (Arabs)".
They claim the Jews to be a hybrid race composed of Cain's descendants, Canaanites, Amalek, and just about every other group listed in the Bible as having commited unforgiveable sins, and commanded to be exterminated. And they all found their way to Central Asia, mixed by means of every deviant sexual abomination and formed the Khazar kingdom, and wrote the Talmud as their bible, complete with mysterious tractates such as Libbre David in which the Rabbis discuss how Jesus was the son of an adulterous whore who concieved him during her menstrual impurity. They later simplified the Talmud into the Protocols of Zion, sort of a Talmud for Dummies, and have made subjugating the world and diluting the white race their main priority.
They are not to be taken lightly. Tim McVeigh was known to frequent Sermons at a compound in Oklahoma called Elohim City. Buford Furrow, a member of the Aryan Nations who had killed a fillipino postal worker and when on to shoot up a Jewish day care center was also a Christian Identity practitioner. The Order, as well as many other nazi terror groups in the US claim membership in this cult.
Actually the consider Arabs to be mongerlized race to have mixed also with the seed of Cain, this why they say Arabs share the same genes with the Jews its ridicolus. You should checkout Son of the South, a sub-human southern Italain with dirty Arab blood, saying White Europeans to be decendants of Israelities, luaghable a Sicilian mongerl calling us to be a mongerlized people. The origin of the Sicilians, first African slaves were imported to Greece and Sicily before the Arab invasions, later the mixed with Arabs, and to lesser extent Berber. The idiot is also part Irish-French, now the origins of the Irish they have mixed with East Indian Dravidians, and the French with Arab/ Berber-Negeriod blood. SonoftheSouth could [censored] himself.
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Christian Identity is the modern exponent of British Israelism, a theory put forth in the late 1700s. It began to take root with the publication of Our Israelitish Origins by Rev. John Wilson in the 1840s.
CI people believe that the British are the actual Israelites and that the Jews are modern-day pretenders.
It's nonsense from start to finish. There is no evidence backing up any of these ridiculous claims and they are easily disproven. However, it is a popular belief among Neo-Nazis, who are in a catch-22 because they want to believe in the Biblical tradition but also hate Jews. By redefining themselves as "the real Jews," they can do both.
For example, CI people will tell you that the first man was not Adam, but "Odom" which they say is Hebrew for "blood in the face". Since only white people can blush, this means that "Odom" was white. This kind of ridiculous thinking permeates CI publications.
A good movie on this subject is Blood in the Face, which interviews and exposes numerous CI people. Granted, Michael Moore participated in making the film (this is long before he was famous) and does some of the interviews, but really, it isn't hard to make fun of Neo-Nazis and he does it pretty well.
Christian Identity people are universally anti-Semitic and their sites, etc. often quote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and other discredited anti-Semitic propaganda. I've never seen CI people who were not also Nazis or involved in the KKK.
WestCoastJTF
"Yet Another JTF.org Activist"
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Re: "...A good movie on this subject is Blood in the Face..."
Available at most video stores, and strongly recommended.
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Anglo-Israelism believes that Anglos are Israel and Jews are Judah. That's slightly different from Christian Identity which excludes Jews all together. All of these theories are based on the inherent contradictions of Christianity.
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Anglo-Israelism is basically predicated on wilful misinterpreation of the Bible, using the fact of English and then American supremacy on the world scene to reinterpret the Scriptures. But the reason that America became prosperous is because of its treatment of the Jews - at a time when most other nations were still having regular pogroms and Jew-burnings, the Americans were relatively welcoming to their Jewish minority. England probably treated JEws better than many European countries which explained why it was able to blosom for a time (and then spectacularly crash after all the antisemitic English trash took hold of the country).
The only civilized countries in history were countries that treated the JEws well, recognized and seized upon and cultivated Jewish talent.
G-d blesses those who bless the Jews, but he will utterly destroy the Anglo bandits who want to steal G-d's heritage from Him.
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Anglo-Israelism is basically predicated on wilful misinterpreation of the Bible, using the fact of English and then American supremacy on the world scene to reinterpret the Scriptures. But the reason that America became prosperous is because of its treatment of the Jews - at a time when most other nations were still having regular pogroms and Jew-burnings, the Americans were relatively welcoming to their Jewish minority. England probably treated JEws better than many European countries which explained why it was able to blosom for a time (and then spectacularly crash after all the antisemitic English trash took hold of the country).
The only civilized countries in history were countries that treated the JEws well, recognized and seized upon and cultivated Jewish talent.
G-d blesses those who bless the Jews, but he will utterly destroy the Anglo bandits who want to steal G-d's heritage from Him.
What your saying is true, even the Moors were blessed because they took Jewish refugees.
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As Dhimmis
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Actually, the Christian Identity people think that only Sephardic Jews are Israelites (White) and Ashkenazi Jews descended from Turkish Khazars.
This is a wrong and anti-Semitic belief, of course.
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Actually, the Christian Identity people think that only Sephardic Jews are Israelites (White) and Ashkenazi Jews descended from Turkish Khazars.
This is a wrong and anti-Semitic belief, of course.
Khazars were White, they even spoke langauge related to Finnish, any hows the Sephardic Jews are seen as Edomities, because we are not white enough. The Israelities were of the Orintealid branch ie Arabid mixed with Aplines and Armeniod. Plus Ashkenazi Jews and Yemenites share cultural traditions and even genes. Thus the idiots don't know anything but the Jewish people racialy and culturaly. We Jews come from shades of brown to shades of White, just like Arabs after all their our racial cousins. I have trolled several CI fourams pretending to be an Anglo-Baffoons.
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Khazars were White,
The Khazars were Turkic.
they even spoke langauge related to Finnish, any hows the Sephardic Jews are seen as Edomities, because we are not white enough.
Not true.
The Israelities were of the Orintealid branch ie Arabid mixed with Aplines and Armeniod. Plus Ashkenazi Jews and Yemenites share cultural traditions and even genes.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Thus the idiots don't know anything but the Jewish people racialy and culturaly. We Jews come from shades of brown to shades of White, just like Arabs after all their our racial cousins.
Except that all Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are White. Only other insignificantly small Jewish minorities may be racially mixed.
99% of ethnic Arabs are racially non-White though of partially White Semitic descent. Genetic studies confirm that Arabs have Negroid admixture.
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Khazars were White,
The Khazars were Turkic.
they even spoke langauge related to Finnish, any hows the Sephardic Jews are seen as Edomities, because we are not white enough.
Not true.
The Israelities were of the Orintealid branch ie Arabid mixed with Aplines and Armeniod. Plus Ashkenazi Jews and Yemenites share cultural traditions and even genes.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Thus the idiots don't know anything but the Jewish people racialy and culturaly. We Jews come from shades of brown to shades of White, just like Arabs after all their our racial cousins.
Except that all Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are White. Only other insignificantly small Jewish minorities may be racially mixed.
99% of ethnic Arabs are racially non-White though of partially White Semitic descent. Genetic studies confirm that Arabs have Negroid admixture.
99% Arabs have no Negorid ancestory infact us Shepardic Jews have idenitcal gentic markers with them, show me those gentic studies, because many gentic studies refute this. Have you seen how Arabs look like they look different from your average Mulatto,Purto Ricans, even Quadroons and Quatroons, thus your statement sounds like the Nordicist mythology of Southern Europeans being mixed race with Negroids also.Arabs are Caucasiod of the Arabid sub-dvision of mankind the Orintealid its appears strong among Orinteal and Shepardic Jews, thus why they are dark skined from brown to White, Jews in modern times have mixed with Alpines and Nordics, and with the Finnic Khazars. Shepardic Jews have mixed with Iberians, and Mizharis wich have stayed pure, as described by anthroplogist to be the same race as the Arabs belonging to the Arabid sub-divison of mankind. Arabs are racialy more similar to people of Northern India, rather than Negroid, thus Negorid admixture in Arabs is minimal confined to Southern Arabia, having dark skin is not sign of Negorid admixture. The fact that Americans and Europeans have also played a large role in the slave trade, as Arabs, some how don't show Negorid admixture halirous, thus its done by Eurocentric individuals like you. Arabs are are largely of Eurasian exteraction, with 10% Negorid admixture in the total Arab population. If you don't how the average Arab looks like here. Modern reseach on the Khazars has shown them to be of Finno-Ugerian decent who adopted the Turkick langauge, also noted that original Turkicks were Whites who have intermarried with Mongoliods creating the Turanid groups that live their. The Arab group that did actually show high levels of Negorid admixture were Southern Arabians such Yemenites and Omanis, and Soctorians, yet Saudis,Qataris,Iraqis, and Syrians have showed very minimal non-Caucasiod lineages. Lets not start talking about the purity of Europeans, especailly the strong Mongoliod elements among Slavs, and the East Indian elements among modern day British peoples. You are very limited to Jewish culture and history, and origin of the human races. So now your going to tell me Indians are mixed Negros because of their dark skin lol, their mixed with Dravidians, or they are infact not mixed thus Aryans were White mythology also does not add up. A. From your pervious comment iam guessing your a Southern European because their said not be pure but mixed and attack other groups. Why iam defending Arabs here, because unfournitaly the share the same genes us Mizharachi/Shepardic Jews. Arabid Caucasiods yes they look very Negorid, from the Arabian pensiula, by the way Coon described the Negro community of Arabia to be stigimitazed. If you see Northern African Arabs their not Arabs but Berbers and often have more Negroid ancestory.
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Iraqis are not Arabs, but Arabized Chaldeans and Assryians. Sunni Iraqis of Assryian-Chaldean exteraction. Light eyes, and hair are common among them, many of them take pride in their "Roman" ancestory, their bone structure still is Orintealid. Their skin color ranges from brown to White, and always distingushed from European "Whites"
(http://i6.tinypic.com/4rcpiep.jpg) Sunni bone structure
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Shia Iraqis are Arabized Sumerians-Persians-Elimates their usually dark skined, have very little blondism, most range from dark brown to light brown in coloring. They take pride in their "Persian" ancestory, and Shia religion they are often hostile toward Sunnis whom they view as invaders and opperssors. Note intermarriage between the two groups is seldom. Since Kuwait which was part of Basara had Slaves from all over the world not only Negorids, Southern Iraqis Shiattes showed gentic Negroid flow about 9.48% mtDNA, yet Sunni Iraqis showed none.
UAE,Qatar,Baharian showed no gentic Negorid influence at all.
Yemen, Scotora, and Oman did where it reached nearly as 33% coming from Eastern Africa(Ethiopians)
North Africans are not Arabs but Arabized Berbers, and obviously they have it around the same as Yemenites.
Also note they took all Arabs,Berbers, and mixed race people who are low castes in the Arab society have been tested as Arabs, thus this negate what you stated about Arabs. Its like me going to the race mixed areas of Britian and show them to be Mulattos, that excatly what this gentic studies did, it was only accurate on Southern Arabs.
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Eastern Jews are not racialy mixed, they have always been that way since antiquity.
More on the Arabid race: Arabid Race: slanted eye-socket and almond eyes. Differentiated from the preceding races in facial morphology and facial dynamics. Also a very narrow and sloping forehead, with a distinct rhombicshaped face. A Syrid subrace, with a lower frequency of blood type gene r.
The Arabid race (i.e., the Bedouins, et al.) is distinguished from the West-Mediterranean race almost only by a nevertheless unusually large number of small, but very characteristic facial traits (See Figure 10). These include the almond eyes, the "Semitic smile" (conditioned by unusually deep Fossa canina), etc. This race had in earlier times a broader-formed Syrid subrace, which was found among the farmers of the "Fertile Crescent." It is now only typical of the Jews today! Eastern ones in particular.
Orintealid race: Oriental)
Brunet-white to Redish-brownish skin color, very dark hair and eyes, abbundant pilosity; medium stature (165), slim body; very long (74) and high head with prominent occiput; long face; large and high nose with root at the level of the forehead, straight or convex spine, strongly curved nostrils (64); full lips, robust chin.