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Alaska Governor Sarah Palin
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Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich
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Massachusetts Senator Mitt Romney
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Louissianna Governor Bobby Jindal
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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani
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Texas Representative Ron Paul
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Florida Governor Charlie Crist
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Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush
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Arakansas Governor Mike Huckabee
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Alabama Senator Jeffrey Sessions
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Sarah Palin- Would make a good president and is a very exciting person. She received more media coverage than McCain. I think that's a good sign. When she promoted a two state solution, I don't think she really meant it. I think she was just saying what a McCain speechwriter told her to say.
Newt Gingrich- He would be a bad choice for the Republicans. He is an establishment guy and has also been involved with scandals.
Mitt Romney- Mostly good but signed a left wing healthcare reform bill as Massachusetts governor. He's also less exciting than Palin.
Bobby Jindal- Similar to Palin in some ways.
Rudy Giuliani- Did very poorly in the 2008 primaries and is left wing on some issues. There's no reason to support him.
Ron Paul- He would make America the Fourth Reich.
Charlie Crist- I don't think many people outside of Florida know/care who he is. All I know is that he supported McCain in the 2008 primaries.
Jeb Bush- forget about it
Mike Huckabee- He's a fraud who misleads people.
Jeff Sessions- He isn't well known and doesn't have a realistic chance at being nominated. He is better off remaining in the Senate.
Ideally, I would like to see Palin as the presidential nominee and Jindal as the vice presidential nominee.
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I like most all of the choices. I am not familiar with Jeffrey Sessions. Is Charlie Crist a conservative? The only knowledge I have of him relates to the ongoing dispute over water from a lake that supplies most of Metro Atlanta's water. There has been a drought here (Atlanta - north Georgia) and in the face of a critical water shortage this moron argued for more and more water to be released from the lake (Lanier) so that snail darters (or something similar) would not face any hardships in a Florida stream. The water level here was so low that it went below the intake pipes. He made an absolute fool of himself with all the nonsense and BS he was spouting. He continually talked about the Georgia residents wasting water washing their cars, watering lawns, etc. when he knew that was a lie. There had been water restrictions and certain activities completely banned for months to a year or more. He made a complete [censored] of himself and showed no class and complete disregard for the residents of Georgia all the while the GA governor treated him with respect and refused to stoop to Crist's level of ignorance and disregard.
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Palin 20000000000000000%
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Moshe92
good points, I pretty much agree 100%. I am just not fully informed on some of the points. An example is regarding Mike Huckabee. I remember during the primaries there were some things that disappointed me concerning him, I just don't remember what it was.
My preference over them all would be Sarah Palin.
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I don't trust Huckabee on a lot of issues, this past election should teach us something, stay away from the Rinos and frauds. It will bite us in the rear. We are living that moment right now.
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Moshe92
good points, I pretty much agree 100%. I am just not fully informed on some of the points. An example is regarding Mike Huckabee. I remember during the primaries there were some things that disappointed me concerning him, I just don't remember what it was.
My preference over them all would be Sarah Palin.
Huckabee doesn't have a great record as governor. I remembered from the election that some people from Arkansas really disliked him.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php (http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php)
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Rudy Giuliani lost my support when he folded(a second time if you count the New York Senate race) and supported McCain. Romney also lost my support when he folded and gave his delegates to McCain. Personally I want to see Huckabee win, but if JTF gets together and agrees to support Palin, I'm in for supporting her.
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I like most all of the choices. I am not familiar with Jeffrey Sessions. Is Charlie Crist a conservative? The only knowledge I have of him relates to the ongoing dispute over water from a lake that supplies most of Metro Atlanta's water. There has been a drought here (Atlanta - north Georgia) and in the face of a critical water shortage this moron argued for more and more water to be released from the lake (Lanier) so that snail darters (or something similar) would not face any hardships in a Florida stream. The water level here was so low that it went below the intake pipes. He made an absolute fool of himself with all the nonsense and BS he was spouting. He continually talked about the Georgia residents wasting water washing their cars, watering lawns, etc. when he knew that was a lie. There had been water restrictions and certain activities completely banned for months to a year or more. He made a complete donkey of himself and showed no class and complete disregard for the residents of Georgia all the while the GA governor treated him with respect and refused to stoop to Crist's level of ignorance and disregard.
I know man and the Economy had gotten pretty bad around here because of it. I think Florida needs to find another way to obtain fresh water. I am actually planning on moving out of North Georgia hopefully real soon before it turns into a desert.
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I guess I'll go with Palin because it seems like everybody else with the GOP sucks big time!!
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I'm going for Palin.
She's got strong beliefs and morals.
She was railroaded by McCain's camp.
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There's no question that I'm supporting Sarah Palin as long she has the opportunity to win the 2012 Republican Nomination. In terms of those with a realistic chance of being elected President, Gov. Palin offers more potential than anyone in generations. She's a True Conservative, who is outside the Beltway. G-d Bless Gov. Palin and her family. I'm a proud member of " Team Sarah ". The fact that JTF formed " Jews for Palin " this past September gave me that much more confidence that Gov. Palin is the type of leader the U.S. desperately needs.
I like many of the positions Bobby Jindal stands for regarding the economy. I'm interested in learning more about Gov. Jindal, especially as it relates to foreign policy.
I'm not familiar enough with Jeff Sessions to offer an opinion on him.
There's no one else on the list in the poll that I would GLADLY support if they win the nomination. Other than Ron Paul who I'll never vote for , the rest I'll RELUCTANTLY vote for against the hideous Barack Hussein Obama. If Paul somehow gets the nomination, I'll vote for a 3rd party candidate or just skip the Presidential vote and just vote for the other positions that are up for election.
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I'm going for Palin.
She's got strong beliefs and morals.
She was railroaded by McCain's camp.
Very well put, ag337.
John McCain and his campaign staff ran one of the worst Presidential campaigns that I can recall from Republican Presidential Nominee. If Sarah Palin was in charge of that campaign from the beginning, at the very least the results of the 2008 election would have been MUCH closer. Basically, McCain and his campaign staff played right into the hands of Barack Hussein Obama. Not even bringing up Rev. Wright and most of BHO's other evil associations made absolutely no sense. This was as politically correct of a campaign that one could run against BHO.
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I'm going for Palin.
She's got strong beliefs and morals.
She was railroaded by McCain's camp.
Very well put, ag337.
John McCain and his campaign staff ran one of the worst Presidential campaigns that I can recall from Republican Presidential Nominee.   If Sarah Palin was in charge of that campaign from the beginning,  at the very least the results of the 2008 election would have been MUCH closer.     Basically,  McCain and his campaign staff played right into the hands of Barack Hussein Obama.   Not even bringing up Rev. Wright and most of BHO's other evil associations made absolutely no sense.   This was as politically correct of a campaign that one could run against BHO.  Â
eb22,
I couldn't agree with you more.
McCain did not use Palin in an effective way.
Instead, he and his handlers gagged her and railroaded her by not letting her be herself.
And, as far as all the negative info (ex. Wright, Ayers, etc.) about Obama, McCain played into the garbage of being politically correct by not attacking his rival.
And, look how far that got him.
Also, if I my memory serves me correctly, the Obama camp made fun of McCain not being able to use a computer and email.
But, they didn't mention that he couldn't do so due to his war injuries.
The McCain campaign was a disaster and managed very poorly.
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We need someone with charisma. None of these people have it.
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I'm sorta wavering between Palin and Jindal.
Similar views. Palin is more charismatic, and Jindal seems to have more of a GOP backing.
Honestly.. it comes down to their position on our borders.. and amnesty.
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Who voted for Ron Paul? :o
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Huckabee/Palin works from me, No matter in what order. ;D
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With the exception of Ron Paul, any of the Candidates are an order of magnitude better than Barack Hussein. I'm not sure if I would support Ron Paul if he was just the lesser of two evils. Then again I had to support McCain.
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If I were American, I'd vote for Ron Paul.
Palin has her convictions, but that's all she has. She's an idiot.
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Ron Paul is a Nazi... wise up Yonah!
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If I were American, I'd vote for Ron Paul.
Palin has her convictions, but that's all she has. She's an idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gTWqWrI4M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gTWqWrI4M)
Fast forward to the 1:35 mark. This shows how sick a person Ron Paul is.
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He's not on your list, Texas Governor Rick Perry, he impressed me very much last week.
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I agree with Ron Paul on most issues.
I can see why he opposes some of Israel's actions; Israel does a lot of bad things. But what is Israel going to do about the Palestinians? Keep them in open air concentration camps from which they can continue to fire rockets into Israel? They need to be deported or something.
Were Israel to deport all non-citizens residing in Gaza and Judea and Samaria to say, Egypt and Syria respectively, I think Ron Paul of all people would respond by doing nothing. American president who would turn a blind eye to Israel's indiscretions (and perhaps undertake token gestures of opprobrium, by cutting unnecessary aid or giving packs of band aids to the Palestinians) would be ideal.
Israel can't bomb Iran's nuclear facilities now, can it? If Ron Paul was in power, Israel probably would have already done it.
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I agree with Ron Paul on most issues.
I can see why he opposes some of Israel's actions; Israel does a lot of bad things. But what is Israel going to do about the Palestinians? Keep them in open air concentration camps from which they can continue to fire rockets into Israel? They need to be deported or something.
Were Israel to deport all non-citizens residing in Gaza and Judea and Samaria to say, Egypt and Syria respectively, I think Ron Paul of all people would respond by doing nothing. American president who would turn a blind eye to Israel's indiscretions (and perhaps undertake token gestures of opprobrium, by cutting unnecessary aid or giving packs of band aids to the Palestinians) would be ideal.
Israel can't bomb Iran's nuclear facilities now, can it? If Ron Paul was in power, Israel probably would have already done it.
First of all, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." Second of all, I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you understand why Ron Paul opposes some of Israel's actions. Are you saying that Israel treats the Arabs too poorly?
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I agree with Ron Paul on most issues.
I can see why he opposes some of Israel's actions; Israel does a lot of bad things. But what is Israel going to do about the Palestinians? Keep them in open air concentration camps from which they can continue to fire rockets into Israel? They need to be deported or something.
Were Israel to deport all non-citizens residing in Gaza and Judea and Samaria to say, Egypt and Syria respectively, I think Ron Paul of all people would respond by doing nothing. American president who would turn a blind eye to Israel's indiscretions (and perhaps undertake token gestures of opprobrium, by cutting unnecessary aid or giving packs of band aids to the Palestinians) would be ideal.
Israel can't bomb Iran's nuclear facilities now, can it? If Ron Paul was in power, Israel probably would have already done it.
First of all, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." Second of all, I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you understand why Ron Paul opposes some of Israel's actions. Are you saying that Israel treats the Arabs too poorly?
I'm saying that Israel needs to get rid of them so the entire missile attack/bulldozer dynamic can come to an end.
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I agree with Ron Paul on most issues.
I can see why he opposes some of Israel's actions; Israel does a lot of bad things. But what is Israel going to do about the Palestinians? Keep them in open air concentration camps from which they can continue to fire rockets into Israel? They need to be deported or something.
Were Israel to deport all non-citizens residing in Gaza and Judea and Samaria to say, Egypt and Syria respectively, I think Ron Paul of all people would respond by doing nothing. American president who would turn a blind eye to Israel's indiscretions (and perhaps undertake token gestures of opprobrium, by cutting unnecessary aid or giving packs of band aids to the Palestinians) would be ideal.
Israel can't bomb Iran's nuclear facilities now, can it? If Ron Paul was in power, Israel probably would have already done it.
First of all, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." Second of all, I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you understand why Ron Paul opposes some of Israel's actions. Are you saying that Israel treats the Arabs too poorly?
I'm saying that Israel needs to get rid of them so the entire missile attack/bulldozer dynamic can come to an end.
Israel does need to get rid of them. Ron Paul is not criticizing Israel for being too lenient with the Arabs. He thinks Israel is being too harsh with the Arabs. He accused Israel of "pre-emptive war" after Israel attacked Gaza.
Ron Paul also believes America should talk with the president of Iran. Not only does he say that America and Israel should not bomb Iran, but he says that even sanctions against Iran are too harsh. He sees Israel as a greater threat to America than Iran and the whole Muslim world.
Furthermore, all of the major white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups endorse Ron Paul, and Ron Paul accepts donations from them. Ron Paul is a pro-Muslim Nazi.
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How about a recall election! I wish we were powerful enough to get the American people to demand one.
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Ron Paul supports logical rather than ideological foreign policy. Why shouldn't the US talk to Iran? America isn't talking to Iran now, and so far, that has only been in Iran's interest. A president like Ron Paul would be ideal American president for Israel; someone who doesn't believe in ideological foreign policy and therefore wouldn't do anything about Israel as it broke international law, but similarly, would be compelled to defend Israel if necessary.
Israel isn't bombing Iran now, probably because it cannot get the green light from the United States, because it has to ask. Ron Paul might not support Israel, but he wouldn't expect Israel to ask, either, and Israel's accountability to the United States is a major barrier to progress. Not destroying Iran's nuclear plant yesterday could have dire consequences tomorrow.
There are already millions of Muslims in Israel, and that number is steadily growing. There are really only two solutions to this; one of course is to tear Israel to pieces and give huge parts of it away, and the other is to get rid of them. Israel could expel all non-citizens, but the political cost would be great; an apathetic president like Ron Paul wouldn't do anything about it, and frankly, that would be ideal.
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Ron Paul supports logical rather than ideological foreign policy. Why shouldn't the US talk to Iran? America isn't talking to Iran now, and so far, that has only been in Iran's interest. A president like Ron Paul would be ideal American president for Israel; someone who doesn't believe in ideological foreign policy and therefore wouldn't do anything about Israel as it broke international law, but similarly, would be compelled to defend Israel if necessary.
Israel isn't bombing Iran now, probably because it cannot get the green light from the United States, because it has to ask. Ron Paul might not support Israel, but he wouldn't expect Israel to ask, either, and Israel's accountability to the United States is a major barrier to progress. Not destroying Iran's nuclear plant yesterday could have dire consequences tomorrow.
There are already millions of Muslims in Israel, and that number is steadily growing. There are really only two solutions to this; one of course is to tear Israel to pieces and give huge parts of it away, and the other is to get rid of them. Israel could expel all non-citizens, but the political cost would be great; an apathetic president like Ron Paul wouldn't do anything about it, and frankly, that would be ideal.
I don't understand what good would come from talking to Iran. Ron Paul wants to appease the Muslim world. This endangers Israel and all of Western civilization. A Ron Paul presidency would be terrible for Israel.
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I don't understand what good would come from talking to Iran. Ron Paul wants to appease the Muslim world. This endangers Israel and all of Western civilization. A Ron Paul presidency would be terrible for Israel.
No good comes from not talking to Iran; they're really not accountable to the United States at this point. They are, however, accountable to Russia. Obama's attempts at rapprochement have made it clear that he's just a [censored], but Ron Paul favors talks without preconditions or intentions. Weak countries cultivate anti-American sentiment to foster internal cohesion, and Iran is just such a country. With America as an enemy, Ahmadinejad becomes more popular. Similarly, Chavez, Morales, Retardez, etc... in South America go out of their way to hate America to mollify the public against a common enemy. Talks aren't going to stop Iran from enriching uranium, only Israel can do that. A diplomatic relationship between Iran and the United States, however, would inhibit Iran's ability to retaliate.
Ron Paul doesn't want to appease the Muslim world, he's a man of peace who is opposed to war and really doesn't care what happens beyond America's borders. Were he president, it would be an excellent opportunity for Israel to tie up some lose strings that would probably result in an EU embargo against it, and extreme pressure by various nations on the US to do the same.
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Ron Paul doesn't want Israel to be left alone. He wants it to be destroyed. I have seen his supporters talking on the internet about how they want Iran to bomb Israel.
Here is Ron Paul with two of his Nazi supporters.
(http://blogs4conservatives.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rp-and-db.jpg)
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Yonah, Ron Paulistinian is a Jew hating, Israel hating, Muslim/Nazi sympathizer.
What part of that are you incapable of understanding ?
If you think a Ron Paul administration would be good for Israel or America, you're out of your mind.
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The reason Ron Paul is not presidential.... is he is a moronic idiotic hypocrite.
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I really like Palin and Voted for here in the general election. I voted for Huckabee in the Primary because of the Israel issue alone. He is the best one on Israel but I don't see him running again. If we had a Huckabee Palin or Vice Versa that would be the best ticket in my mind.
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I voted Gingrich because if the [censored] hits the fan he will have the experience to know what to do, but I am a big supporter of Sarah Palin as well. I wouldn't mind seeing Gingrich in the vp passenger seat and Palin as the President.
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Ron Paul doesn't want Israel to be left alone. He wants it to be destroyed. I have seen his supporters talking on the internet about how they want Iran to bomb Israel.
Here is Ron Paul with two of his Nazi supporters.
(http://blogs4conservatives.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rp-and-db.jpg)
I doubt Ron Paul knows who Don Black is. I've seen Barack Obama supports talk about destroying Israel all the same; ultimately, you cannot determine someone's policies on the basis of their supporters.
Yonah, Ron Paulistinian is a Jew hating, Israel hating, Muslim/Nazi sympathizer.
What part of that are you incapable of understanding ?
The part about him hating Jews and sympathizing with fascist Muslims or socialist Nazis.
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If I were American, I'd vote for Ron Paul.
Palin has her convictions, but that's all she has. She's an idiot.
Palin was only portrayed as an idiot by the news media who hated her. As far as I know no one ever got anything over on her fairly. In honest non-edited debate she tore liberals up, even when they ambushed her with loaded questions and set-ups.
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chad
What? You don't like the desert? ha ha
At least here you are not troubled with things such as mowing your lawn. Actually I am very happy the drought is going away. I have 12 horses and the cost of hay was killing me!!
Where do you plan on going if you don't mind me asking? To Florida to use up the remaining water we have left here in Georgia? ha ha
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Jeb Bush made sure ape criminals could not vote. Shame that Charlie Crist reversed that law.
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Say no to Romney and Christ.
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Say no to Romney and Christ.
Crist not Christ. please don't confuse the two. :::D
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If I were American, I'd vote for Ron Paul.
Palin has her convictions, but that's all she has. She's an idiot.
Palin was only portrayed as an idiot by the news media who hated her. As far as I know no one ever got anything over on her fairly. In honest non-edited debate she tore liberals up, even when they ambushed her with loaded questions and set-ups.
Reporters definitely gave her a hard time, and she's definitely an excellent and convicted debater - when it comes to issues of faith and opinion.
She didn't know the answers to a lot of questions she was asked; answers she should have known as a state governor, and especially as a candidate for vice president.
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I doubt Palin will run in 2012. After what the media did to her and the the way the GOP stabs true conservatives in the back, I look for her to stay out of the race. This group is meager at best. I have to lean towards Romney, only because he is smart and looks the part. Jindal is a favorite of mine, but he doesn't have the charm or wit to close the deal.
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I don't think Yonah understands who he is siding with by supporting Ron Paul. Here is a column written a few days ago by a Ron Paul supporter about how the "Israel lobby" is treating Iran too harshly. These people are absolutely insane.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/ (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/)
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I don't think Yonah understands who he is siding with by supporting Ron Paul. Here is a column written a few days ago by a Ron Paul supporter about how the "Israel lobby" is treating Iran too harshly. These people are absolutely insane.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/ (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/)
Yes... a lot of Paul supporters are actually wacko anti-americans and anti-semites who were desperate to find a GOP Rep. who supported their views that America and Israel cause all the problems.
Paul has said (Several times) that Iran is all America's fault... ,and the few words he said about 9/11 were all in line with Muslims and Anti-Americans... that it was our own fault and America's ties with Israel... not Islam.
This is why he is embraced by Muslims, Nazis, and certain Leftist American Haters.
Oh... and did I mention he was an idiot?