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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: admin on April 08, 2007, 01:18:16 PM
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It says he's a guest now and he's not listed on the members list.
Note: I am not referring to Fruit (FOTL), but the user formerly known as Rhuan.
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I was wondering as well.
I thought he couldn't have been banned as a user because he is too morally nice and doesn't like to offend.
He posted yesterday though.
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Trumpeldore are you ftf?
Did Jabo change his screen name?
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Trumpeldore are you ftf?
Did Jabo change his screen name?
I am not ftf.
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I had decided to leave the JTF forums, but having been thinking about things, I've now realised that it was a stupid thing to do, and have therefore returned.
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I had decided to leave the JTF forums, but having been thinking about things, I've now realised that it was a stupid thing to do, and have therefore returned.
What things? You buy Din's opinion that JTF Jews hate Christians?
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I know that you think of us as third class people, and it is rather annoying, but I need somewhere to talk about things without being jumped on for being non-pc.
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I thought that there was a StørmFrønt poster who was recently banned who was called FTFL. I was not sure if this was the same as our FTF or what. ???
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FTFL was my old username, you can choose a different display name to username. If your account is deleted your posts show your username not whatever display name you may have had at some point.
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I recalled that you used to be FTF. Why did you change it to FTFL and then delete it?
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I was FTFL all along, I just used ftf as my display name, I deleted my account when I realised that I was thought of as a third class person here.
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I know that you think of us as third class people, and it is rather annoying, but I need somewhere to talk about things without being jumped on for being non-pc.
You should be banned just for that. I have never, ever, said anything like that. Now you're stereotyping...There's something very wrong with you.
I think maybe you just hate yourself.
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I'm not saying that you said it.
But the general opinion of the mods and senior members on this foum definately seams to be, that Jews are first calss, Noahides are second class, and christians are a distant third, look at a lot of the posts around here...
And look what happened when I tried creating a topic saying happy easter to all christians on this forum, the topic was deleted.
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I'm not saying that you said it.
So why are you stereotyping? Who on the JTF forum thinks that non-Jews are sub-humans? Who is 'you' supposed to mean? All Jews? Get over yourself.
You are accusing people here of being Nazis. That's a serious and ban-worthy offense.
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I edited my above post while you typed your next one...
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I'm not saying that you said it.
But the general opinion of the mods and senior members on this foum definately seams to be, that Jews are first calss, Noahides are second class, and christians are a distant third, look at a lot of the posts around here...
And look what happened when I tried creating a topic saying happy easter to all christians on this forum, the topic was deleted.
1. That's how you perceive things. You think there is a hierarchy. Well, there is somewhat of a hierarchy. It's the JEWISH Task Force. We welcome righteous non-Jews and love working with them, but when push comes to shove, this is a Jewish organization.
2. You shouldn't have wished people on this forum a 'happy Easter'. Wish it to your friends, wish it to your family. No one's stopping you. But this is a Jewish forum (that allows Gentiles post) and there are certain rules. It's not a democracy. We have moderators, Jewish and non-Jewish, who enforce these rules.
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It was a topic addressed "To all the christians on this forum" if that isn't allowed, it's clear evidence that I'm right in saying that there is a distinct hierachy.
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It was a topic addressed "To all the christians on this forum" if that isn't allowed, it's clear evidence that I'm right in saying that there is a distinct hierachy.
Rule 5 of the JTF Forum:
JTF is a religious organization. While we have many non-religious supporters, and we welcome them, we do expect them to respect our beliefs.
We do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, or that he was resurrected. If you want to believe that, you're entitled to it. But just as you wouldn't make a 'Merry Christmas' post, you wouldn't make a 'happy Easter' post.
It seems as if you are making an issue out of this perceived hierarchy in order to create animosity between religions, when we have these rules, such as rule 5, to prevent such things from happening.
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I respect your beliefs, how about you respect mine?
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It is written right there in your Bible. G-d dotes on Israel like an old man dotes on the wife of his youth. See there in the Torah G-d going into intricate detail about the Mishkan, the procedures for offerings, etc? That shows how sacred is the relationship between G-d and Israel. Not just anyone on this forum but anyone upon whom the Holy Spirit alights and they glimpse into some of the true meaning of the Bible sees that in G-d's eyes the Jews are first class.
Righteous gentiles have at least to some extent to be self-hating or self-effacing because they have to put the interests of others above themselves.
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I respect your beliefs, how about you respect mine?
How am I disrespecting your beliefs? This is a rule of the forum. If you think it is disrespectful, take it up with Yacov.
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Rule five states: "JTF is a religious organization. While we have many non-religious supporters, and we welcome them, we do expect them to respect our beliefs. Therefore, obscene language of any kind is unacceptable and may lead to the banning of a member."
How is saying happy easter a breach of that rule? Your pulling things out of thin air.
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Wow. Sheesh.
I am a Jew, and it does not bother me in the slightest if Christians want to wish me a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter. How is that so offensive?
Since they think Jesus is the Messiah, it's like them wishing the good things of the Messiah on a person. It's no big deal. Doesn't seem like worth fighting over.
If a Christian is gonna get banned for something like that...you better well not have any Lubavitchers here recruiting. They think their dead and gone Rebbe (Rabbi Schneerson) [might have spelled his name wrong there. If so, no disrespect intended in that.] who could not possibly have been the Moshiach ben whoever...not ben David, and not ben Yosef, is gonna rise again etc. etc. etc.
I mean come on. Lets focus on what is important here. I tend to agree that though this is a Jewish organization, if the Christian members want to wish each other Merry Christmas or Happy Easter in a thread or whatever...we Jews need to quit being so hyper sensitive.
(Same is true for the Gentiles though. People just need to learn to quit having their feelings on their shoulders. The world is gonna rock on whether you're a Jew or Gentile until the end comes one way or the other and there's not one thing any man, woman or child can do about that. A new age is coming. So again, lets focus on what's important shall we?)
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A new age is coming.
I think that too. It will be the post-white male age. The world will move away from Anglo-Saxon conceptualizations of how things should be.
White women will have sex with black men.
Thousands of mosques and madrassahs will be built all over Europe.
The future of Europe is this: biracial babies and mosques.
It will indeed be a new age.
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A new age is coming.
I think that too. It will be the post-white male age. The world will move away from Anglo-Saxon conceptualizations of how things should be.
White women will have sex with black men.
Thousands of mosques and madrassahs will be built all over Europe.
The future of Europe is this: biracial babies and mosques.
It will indeed be a new age.
Hopefully by the time all that really gets going I will drop dead!!!
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"...it's clear evidence that I'm right in saying that there is a distinct hierachy...."
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ESTABLISHED JTF HIERARCHY HERE BASED ON ONE'S BELIEF SYSTEM (or...lack of one).
Human beings are a political animal; as such there always appears to be a "pecking order" wherever one finds a group.
But, this is a flaw of human nature....not a tenet of JTF.
That being said, I wish to now state clearly that anyone here that thinks being a Jew is "being on the top of the heap", have no idea of what daily reality is for the Jew.
Nor do they have any idea of the difficulty in taking on the Torah Commandments as "The Yoke of Heaven".
Jesus stated "My yoke is easy", and compared to obeying our 613 Commandments, the Christian life, no matter how devout, is always less difficult to live than is that of the Orthodox Jew.
Last but not least, the world of faith always presents innate difficulties; some feeling others are not religious or faithful enough; others seeing the fastidiously faithful as nutcase zealots.
I personally hope we all can be mature enough to learn from each other while working together to save Western Civilization.
Just remember: Moving forward will always require some degree of friction...it's a law of physics.
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THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ESTABLISHED JTF HIERARCHY HERE BASED ON ONE'S BELIEF SYSTEM.
I condemn you, MassuhD to a beheading! How dare you consider me to be of the same social class as you.....I AM THE EVER REIGNING QUEEN OF ENGLAND!
Seriously, this is truly pathetic.......JTF has one goal and its own established rules. We all vary on our opinions and wander about the aims of JTF's views but the end goal is evidently the same. To support Israel, be righteous people and condemn evil. Theres nothing else too it-well not that i know of.
Ftf i can understand to a degree why your happy easter thread was deleted, it sidelines from the jewish aspect of the website. Newly comers or guests viewing the website may get a preconceived and wrong idea about JTF. However it doesn't mean you can't share your opinions on things be they religious or not.
A lot of unsettlement and dispute has risen on the boards recently....and during one of the holiest weeks for both JEWS AND CHRISTIANS! What happened to the happy peaceful spirit of religious holidays!
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Wow. Sheesh.
I am a Jew, and it does not bother me in the slightest if Christians want to wish me a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter. How is that so offensive?
Since they think Jesus is the Messiah, it's like them wishing the good things of the Messiah on a person. It's no big deal. Doesn't seem like worth fighting over.
If a Christian is gonna get banned for something like that...you better well not have any Lubavitchers here recruiting. They think their dead and gone Rebbe (Rabbi Schneerson) [might have spelled his name wrong there. If so, no disrespect intended in that.] who could not possibly have been the Moshiach ben whoever...not ben David, and not ben Yosef, is gonna rise again etc. etc. etc.
I mean come on. Lets focus on what is important here. I tend to agree that though this is a Jewish organization, if the Christian members want to wish each other Merry Christmas or Happy Easter in a thread or whatever...we Jews need to quit being so hyper sensitive.
(Same is true for the Gentiles though. People just need to learn to quit having their feelings on their shoulders. The world is gonna rock on whether you're a Jew or Gentile until the end comes one way or the other and there's not one thing any man, woman or child can do about that. A new age is coming. So again, lets focus on what's important shall we?)
Really if someone wishs me a happy Easter it's not meant to be insulting
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I agree. Wishing people a happy Easter is no big deal.