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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: AsheDina on July 17, 2009, 07:11:31 AM
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
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TK is gone, you won :)
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,36197.45.html
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Right. Good decision to ban him.
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He bit the dust last night. You knew his time was going to be short because his sort of stupidity wears thin real fast. We were just having some fun tantalizing him before he got flushed down the tubes.
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
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Why are people allowed attack Chaim & Paulette? Leaders here should not be attacked.
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Another silly provocateur, very similar to TK. Typical style of Israeli ultra-leftists.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,36205.0.html
I think we should discuss how to effectively confront provocations.
I have to go, Shabbat is coming.
Shabbat Shalom and have a good week end guys!
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Another silly provocateur, very similar to TK. Typical style of Israeli ultra-leftists.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,36205.0.html
I think we should discuss how to effectively confront provocations.
I have to go, Shabbat is coming.
Shabbat Shalom and have a good week end guys!
Oh forgive me for questioning unfair treatment of forum users who happen to annoy a more established user. I won't question anything again.
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Are you a big fat self-hating Jewess?? Paulette should not be attacked and her beliefs made light of. People should come here and respect honorable members, and debate politely. Paulette won't convert to any religion, she is not into conversions, because of the pain inflicted on her family because of it.
By looking at your posts, Axel, one can tell that you are not stable. You should get with the more stable Jews here, so that you are not self-hating. If anything can be said about Paulette (AsheDina) she is accurate about new people, because she watches this forum like a hawk, I know this, because I knew her. If you agree it is ok to attack people, and treat them without respect that have proven themselves, over the years then you shouldn't be here either, should you?
If it was any other member I wouldn't say anything, but I can understand why he would be angry at this one in particular. I was having a civilized debate about the logic behind the matriarchial rule of Judaism, and she came in out of nowhere with ad hominem attacks about me being self-hating, when I explained time and time again that I'm an agnostic with a different understanding of Jewishness. I can't respect disrespectful people.
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
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Ive had ENOUGH. I protect my brothers and sisters with my LIFE, online and in LIFE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO CONVERT INTO ANYTHING.
I WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS GONE.
Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Another silly provocateur, very similar to TK. Typical style of Israeli ultra-leftists.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,36205.0.html
I think we should discuss how to effectively confront provocations.
I have to go, Shabbat is coming.
Shabbat Shalom and have a good week end guys!
Oh forgive me for questioning unfair treatment of forum users who happen to annoy a more established user. I won't question anything again.
The key word being annoy. A member who has 1000, 2000 or more posts is someone who has made a commitment to the JTF movement and is going to get the full backing of other members. Not to say that new members are not important however they can't expect to get the same backing that established members get unless the are clearly getting the shaft. The person who was banned deserved banning they were told several times to layoff.
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you said that you understand the Muslims calling Jews, pigs.
Yeah, to dehumanize them and make it easier to justify killing them, in regards to an article where the woman laught at the idea of killing an animal.
I don't believe that you are agnostic,
I'm not religious but open to the idea of a god, what's not to believe about that? why on Earth would I make that up?
Paulette is a warrior type, and won't tolerate people that attack her blood brothers. Its that simple. While she is not religious, she is a natural born Kahanist, and wont sit back and let her brothers get slaughtered, and that also includes Christians and right-wing Gentiles.
Well ok, but I think we can agree we're all like this. We're all on this forum supporting the idea of fighting against those that attack fellow blood-brothers and supporters of our aspirations. I don't see how she's more of a warrior than say, teutonic knight, simply because she has more posts.
On the same topic, all I did here to provoke other Jews was proclaim that people with Jewish fathers should still be considered our blood-brothers, that's all.
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I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar"
How come if your a woman you have a mans name.Are you very overweight?
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I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar"
How come if your a woman you have a mans name.Are you very overweight?
:::D :::D :clap:
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I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar"
How come if your a woman you have a mans name.Are you very overweight?
I'm not a female, I used quotation marks and the word apparently for a reason.
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Thanks, TK is gone, what a MORON.
Axel, I am DEDICATED to JTF, ARE YOU?? You have said MANY things that are NASTY toward Jews, HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT US TO REACT TO YOU?!
OK, I have PMS, PMD, PMDD, AMS, A $$ and I am finished with this post : )
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Axel, I banned Teutonic Knight. In the short time he was here, he insulted AsheDina, Serb Avenger and Rubystars. He also implied that Jewish circumcision is "barbaric."
The three members I just listed are wonderful JTF'ers. Aside from having lots of posts, they watch the forum like hawks. AsheDina makes wonderful videos for us. Serb Avenger was with us from the very beginning. Rubystars is a wonderful moderator, who asks Chaim very intelligent questions every week on Ask JTF.
So it's not just the number of posts. It's the dedication these members have shown through making videos, being a moderator, and by supporting JTF.
In your case, you kept asking why Judaism is passed on matrilineally. Muman and Kahane Was Right tried responding to you by providing links and answering your questions. But I get the feeling you didn't pay attention to what they wrote. You just kept on with your arguments.
Now you're quite new here. So I really wouldn't go around complaining about more senior members, or people who were banned.
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Axel, I banned Teutonic Knight. In the short time he was here, he insulted AsheDina, Serb Avenger and Rubystars. He also implied that Jewish circumcision is "barbaric."
The three members I just listed are wonderful JTF'ers. Aside from having lots of posts, they watch the forum like hawks. AsheDina makes wonderful videos for us. Serb Avenger was with us from the very beginning. Rubystars is a wonderful moderator, who asks Chaim very intelligent questions every week on Ask JTF.
So it's not just the number of posts. It's the dedication these members have shown through making videos, being a moderator, and by supporting JTF.
In your case, you kept asking why Judaism is passed on matrilineally. Muman and Kahane Was Right tried responding to you by providing links and answering your questions. But I get the feeling you didn't pay attention to what they wrote. You just kept on with your arguments.
Now you're quite new here. So I really wouldn't go around complaining about more senior members, or people who were banned.
In other words, Axel, YOU'RE NEXT.
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In your case, you kept asking why Judaism is passed on matrilineally. Muman and Kahane Was Right tried responding to you by providing links and answering your questions. But I get the feeling you didn't pay attention to what they wrote. You just kept on with your arguments.
No I read it, I just didn't agree with it. I actually went on to ask a rabbi the question and he told me where the rule came from, which made me even more skeptical.
Now you're quite new here. So I really wouldn't go around complaining about more senior members, or people who were banned.
I understand that very well, but I still call out injustice when I see it. I've been around in forums long enough to know how unfair things can be. So he picked a fight with Ashe, as did I without even approaching, so I can relate. And like with him, about 2-3 other members including Ruby and Serb began accusing me of being a WN, self-hating Jew and cried for me getting banned without me provoking them. That's no doubt the same pattern that made Knight so hostile.
As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
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In other words, Axel, YOU'RE NEXT.
Thank you for your threat, I'll make sure to look into it sometime.
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Axel,
I have been trying to understand where you are coming from. I am an observant Jew who returned to religion about six years ago and I truly try to make peace whenever it is possible. I don't like to see members banned... When I first joined JTF there was a conflict going on and I attempted to bring the parties together. This is one reason I was promoted to moderator quickly.
If you truly want to learn about Judaism it is possible to learn. You are certainly free to express your doubts and fears and even question what is being discussed. But there is a thin line where I feel you crossed and offended a number of long-time members of JTF. I really hope that you can understand what I am trying to say to you.
I also believe it is important to refrain from using 'evil speech' in a forum where religious Jews may be. Nobody can force you to think about what you write before you hit the send button, but I will suggest that everyone here be more sensitive to the others feelings. Now I hope nobody will accuse me of subscribing to the 'PC' politically correct theory... I don't... It is important to rebuke a person when he is obviously wrong and the reason for the commandment of rebuke is because it is done to cause the receiver to change his ways. It is also commanded to rebuke, so as not to hate the person and bear their transgression.
If you really are a part of Klal Yisroel and are working for the goals of establishing Zion then I will refrain from passing judgement at this time... I hope I see good things from you.
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I have a feeling that those "great" new members were all same...
::)
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Axel, the name of this organization is the JEWISH Task Force. That alone should tell you this is a Jewish organization. We do have many wonderful non-Jewish members. Anyone who is righteous may join us. However, everyone has to keep in mind, and respect the fact that this is a Jewish organization.
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Where did Teutonic Knight "go"? Maybe he is a crusader against the muslims. :P
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Where did Teutonic Knight "go"? Maybe he is a crusader against the muslims. :P
Did you not hear? He was banned last night!
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Where did Teutonic Knight "go"? Maybe he is a crusader against the muslims. :P
Did you not hear? He was banned last night!
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I know, I was just kidding. ;D
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I don't think he was Teutonic or a knight maybe a shvatza gangbanger muzzie
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As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
Listen, I don't care what "kind" of Jew you (or anyone) are or think you are, no one has a right to attack brit milah on this forum. You don't want to give your kid a brit? If you're Jewish, you're wrong, but that is your choice, and you can keep your mouth shut about it. Don't attack us because you're insecure about your own choice.
That BS won't be tolerated here. You should just know that. I'm glad they're giving you a chance and not throwing you out, but if you start attacking Judaism and Jews you'll be outa here, and you won't have any sympathy.
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As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
Listen, I don't care what "kind" of Jew you (or anyone) are or think you are, no one has a right to attack brit milah on this forum. You don't want to give your kid a brit? If you're Jewish, you're wrong, but that is your choice, and you can keep your mouth shut about it. Don't attack us because you're insecure about your own choice.
That BS won't be tolerated here. You should just know that. I'm glad they're giving you a chance and not throwing you out, but if you start attacking Judaism and Jews you'll be outa here, and you won't have any sympathy.
I think it was TK who said that... And Axel said it was wrong for him to say that...
As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
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Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Obviously TK was your friend.
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As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
Listen, I don't care what "kind" of Jew you (or anyone) are or think you are, no one has a right to attack brit milah on this forum. You don't want to give your kid a brit? If you're Jewish, you're wrong, but that is your choice, and you can keep your mouth shut about it. Don't attack us because you're insecure about your own choice.
That BS won't be tolerated here. You should just know that. I'm glad they're giving you a chance and not throwing you out, but if you start attacking Judaism and Jews you'll be outa here, and you won't have any sympathy.
I think it was TK who said that... And Axel said it was wrong for him to say that...
That was only the first half of his sentence, but in the next half, he backhandedly justified it. I'll put it in bold to show what I meant to criticize.
As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
So I want to make clear to him I don't care what he calls himself, not tolerating attacks against brit milah has nothing to do with orthodoxy or reformism... It's simple common sense. Just like we wouldn't tolerate attacks against Jews.
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As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
Listen, I don't care what "kind" of Jew you (or anyone) are or think you are, no one has a right to attack brit milah on this forum. You don't want to give your kid a brit? If you're Jewish, you're wrong, but that is your choice, and you can keep your mouth shut about it. Don't attack us because you're insecure about your own choice.
That BS won't be tolerated here. You should just know that. I'm glad they're giving you a chance and not throwing you out, but if you start attacking Judaism and Jews you'll be outa here, and you won't have any sympathy.
I think it was TK who said that... And Axel said it was wrong for him to say that...
That was only the first half of his sentence, but in the next half, he backhandedly justified it. I'll put it in bold to show what I meant to criticize.
As for the circumcision, well I can understand how this can offend, he was wrong to argue that. But at the same time, since when was JTF only for the orthodox Jews? There's not many pro-zionist forums to join for all sorts of Jews, it's this or JDL...
So I want to make clear to him I don't care what he calls himself, not tolerating attacks against brit milah has nothing to do with orthodoxy or reformism... It's simple common sense. Just like we wouldn't tolerate attacks against Jews.
I agree.. I think Brit Milah is one of the most important mitzvahs a parent can do for their son.
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Axel they do not ban everyone who might disagree with them on certain issues. I am proof of that. I don't post here a lot, but when I do I frequently voice disagreement w/ certain things said by some JTF members. I am not ever even chastised for it (much) let alone banned.
Seems to me that they are quite welcoming of posters w/ views other than their own...within reason.
Frankly, someone can't expect to come on here with a name like Teutonic Knight and not be banned ...even if he HADN'T been disruptive and clearly trolling, which he was.
I for one do support free speech on forums, and think opposing views should be welcomed, to encourage discussion. That is not the basis of this forum though, and they make no claims that it is either. It's quite simple, if they don't like you, they are going to ban you!
As for this T.K., The Teutonic Knights were the rulers of Prussia if I am not mistaken, and were not known for treating the Jews very kindly. It should go without being said that someone coming on a site like this w/ a name like that is not going to be welcomed with open arms, lol.
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I agree.. I think Brit Milah is one of the most important mitzvahs a parent can do for their son.
That's true. I also understand that when people attack brit milah as "barbaric" it is a veiled Nazi tactic to destroy the Jewish people. Some early leaders in the deformed 'reform movement' also tried this in their attempt to destroy Torah and Judaism, and in effect, the Jewish people. This type of attack cannot be tolerated.
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Ban someone because you don't like them? because they said something you don't like? what kinda totalitarian forum are we running here? ::)
Next you're gona ask me banned because apparently I'm "a big fat self-hating Jewess liar", and naturally people are gona agree with the person with 3,000 post counts.
Abusing your influence is just sad.
Obviously TK was your friend.
Nah, never spoke to him.
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That was only the first half of his sentence, but in the next half, he backhandedly justified it. I'll put it in bold to show what I meant to criticize.
Hi, I'm agnostic, I don't follow a religion. Why would I support doing that to my sons penis?
Of course I will be against banning someone for sharing that belief.
But as I said, he was wrong for doing that here. And had the subject not be brought up, I obviously wouldn't have spoken about this.
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That's true. I also understand that when people attack brit milah as "barbaric" it is a veiled Nazi tactic to destroy the Jewish people.
...No? most people see it as a savage practice, to mutilate a defenceless babies penis for religious purposes. It's got nothing to do with destroying anyone.
One of the reasons I hate Muslims is for mutilating the female clitoris, why would I be a hypocrite condemning them yet support it for another religion just because I'm a Jew?
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That's true. I also understand that when people attack brit milah as "barbaric" it is a veiled Nazi tactic to destroy the Jewish people.
...No? most people see it as a savage practice, to mutilate a defenceless babies penis for religious purposes. It's got nothing to do with destroying anyone.
One of the reasons I hate Muslims is for mutilating the female clitoris, why would I be a hypocrite condemning them yet support it for another religion just because I'm a Jew?
Why do you equate mutilating a baby's genitalia (which causes many problems) with circumcision which is not a mutilation and does not cause any problems?
And no, most people do not see it as a savage practice. That is your wishful thinking. You project your own views onto others and then claim "most" or "majority" to give the appearance of strength to your argument. Funny how yesterday you were talking about "tactics." Must be because the tactics you use in argument are cheap and you think everyone's tactics are cheap.
Like I said, you do not have a right to attack circumcision on this site and you will get yourself canned if you continue. Why push the envelope? You will lose your chance to peddle your leftwing views on this site.
But perhaps you're willing to throw in the towel because you see that we are fully capable of refuting your nonsense and thus you don't feel you will accomplish anything here.
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OK that does it Axel. You're way out of line here. The Brit Milah is one of the basics of Judaism. It's NOT the same as removing a girl's clitoris! Therefore I don't think I, or anyone else here should have to justify it to you.
You're banned!
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:dance: 8) :P
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OK that does it Axel. You're way out of line here. The Brit Milah is one of the basics of Judaism. It's NOT the same as removing a girl's clitoris! Therefore I don't think I, or anyone else here should have to justify it to you.
You're banned!
Thank Hashem... This guy really distorts the truth... Brit Milah is not mutilation.. As a matter of fact half the world performs circumcision for health reasons.
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OK that does it Axel. You're way out of line here. The Brit Milah is one of the basics of Judaism. It's NOT the same as removing a girl's clitoris! Therefore I don't think I, or anyone else here should have to justify it to you.
You're banned!
Wonderful! Another brain dead fifth column agitator kicked to the curb. Lisa, I just thought I'd say you're doing a wonderful job!
http://medievalbanned.ytmnd.com/ (http://medievalbanned.ytmnd.com/)
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OK that does it Axel. You're way out of line here. The Brit Milah is one of the basics of Judaism. It's NOT the same as removing a girl's clitoris! Therefore I don't think I, or anyone else here should have to justify it to you.
You're banned!
Wonderful! Another brain dead fifth column agitator kicked to the curb. Lisa, I just thought I'd say you're doing a wonderful job!
http://medievalbanned.ytmnd.com/ (http://medievalbanned.ytmnd.com/)
It wasnt even a guy, it was a woman. A self-hating maggot Jewess. SYMPATHIZING with Muslims. What a piece of [censored].