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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on October 24, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
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My opinion is obvious.
Edit: I've mistakenly voted "yup". Of course I oppose this evil.
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Then edit the poll so you can fix your vote
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My opinion is obvious.
Edit: I've mistakenly voted "yup". Of course I oppose this evil.
Why is your profile name like that?
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My opinion is obvious.
Edit: I've mistakenly voted "yup". Of course I oppose this evil.
Why is your profile name like that?
Cause it's written in Hebrew lol
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My opinion is obvious.
Edit: I've mistakenly voted "yup". Of course I oppose this evil.
Why is your profile name like that?
Cause it's written in Hebrew lol
Doesn't look like it is in Hebrew
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
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Well why not? I have mistaken also by saying yes but, whats wrong with this? Is it forbidden in The Torah?
Edit: I would possibly agree to them intermarrying if the Gentile converts to Judism and is serious about it. I don't see how it's evil.
Judaism is not an ethnicity. Even a Muslim converting to Judaism is a Jew, period. It is evil because it's a major sin (Hit'bolelut) and it is forbbiden in the Torah.
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
Reading ain't that hard
רון בן מיכ×ל
That's what written
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
Reading ain't that hard
רון בן מיכ×ל
That's what written
All I see is a bunch of X's circles and ž Ÿ œ
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I think something got messed up with the letters in your name. It looks like gibberish. You're Ron Ben Michael, right?
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
Reading ain't that hard
רון בן מיכ×ל
That's what written
Maybe on your computer you see hebrew, but everyone else see's xxxYx'xzxce or maybe it's just me. You must of done something to your profile when you were editing the poll.
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
Reading ain't that hard
רון בן מיכ×ל
That's what written
All I see is a bunch of X's circles and � � �
Then change ur language properties in ur control panel if u got Windows OS
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I think something got messed up with the letters in your name. It looks like gibberish. You're Ron Ben Michael, right?
That is him
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heres what we see רון בן מיכ×ל
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HEBREW THATS NOT HEBREW :o
Reading ain't that hard
רון בן מיכ×ל
That's what written
All I see is a bunch of X's circles and � � �
Then change ur language properties in ur control panel if u got Windows OS
I think that all of us are having this problem.
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heres what we see רון בן מיכ×ל
Looks like Hebrew to me not Gibberish it's something u have on ur computer or maybe ur trying to make fun of me?
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heres what we see רון בן מיכ×ל
Looks like Hebrew to me not Gibberish it's something u have on ur computer or maybe ur trying to make fun of me?
It is not coming up on our screens as Hebrew
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heres what we see רון בן מיכ×ל
Looks like Hebrew to me not Gibberish it's something u have on ur computer or maybe ur trying to make fun of me?
It is not coming up on our screens as Hebrew
:::D :::D :::D :::D
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it's coming up on everyones computer why would me make fun of you
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here's a screenshot
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it's coming up on everyones computer why would me make fun of you
Yup that'd be suicide
anyway if u have Windows OS u should change ur language settings
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it's coming up on everyones computer why would me make fun of you
Yup that'd be suicide
anyway if u have Windows OS u should change ur language settings
I see Hebrew in other threads but not yours.
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I don't think it's a good idea for Gentiles to marry Jews because it might create to big of a religious conflict.
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here's a screenshot
Here's mine
(http://up175.siz.co.il/up1/ydg0m2eavi0n.bmp)
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here's a screenshot
Here's mine
(http://up175.siz.co.il/up1/ydg0m2eavi0n.bmp)
Maybe if you log out and log back in it might work.
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Who is this with sign language for a screen name?
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Who is this with sign language for a screen name?
ron ben michael
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This really is subjective. It all depends on the person. However, I'm pretty sure that in Judaism marrying a non-Jew is forbidden.
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This is really not a good issue for our forum... We all know its forbidden and it really makes no difference if we agree or not.
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This is really not a good issue for our forum... We all know its forbidden and it really makes no difference if we agree or not.
I agree completely.
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Well why not? I have mistaken also by saying yes but, whats wrong with this? Is it forbidden in The Torah?
Yes, it is forbidden to marry out of the faith.
Edit: I would possibly agree to them intermarrying if the Gentile converts to Judism and is serious about it. I don't see how it's evil.
But if the gentile converts, then it's a Jew marrying a convert (in other words, a Jew marrying a Jew). That is not an intermarriage. The problem is when the gentile does not convert to Judaism and Jew just marries a gentile. That is forbidden.
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Well why not? I have mistaken also by saying yes but, whats wrong with this? Is it forbidden in The Torah?
Yes, it is forbidden to marry out of the faith.
Edit: I would possibly agree to them intermarrying if the Gentile converts to Judism and is serious about it. I don't see how it's evil.
But if the gentile converts, then it's a Jew marrying a convert (in other words, a Jew marrying a Jew). That is not an intermarriage. The problem is when the gentile does not convert to Judaism and Jew just marries a gentile. That is forbidden.
Also a Gentile who "converts" only in order to marry the Jew is still a Gentile and not a very hoenst one. Conversion for marriage doesn't exist in Judaism.
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But there are sincere converts to Judaism. I know some and think it is a very wonderful thing that a non-Jew loves Hashem and wants to join his people. The Prophets have foretold that in the days of Moshiach there will be a lot of non-Jews who want to convert but that it will be too late.
I hope that those who truly want to convert out of love of Hashem and his people do so before it is too late.
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really really really really against it...and everyone should be also...
but of course if the gentile properly converts to Judaism and truthfully, then that gentile is really a Jew and therefore it's ok.
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
ROTFLMAO :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did
Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did
Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?
Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.
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Dude, chill out. No reason to get insulting.
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Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.
I never knew that.
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did
Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?
Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.
Dan Ben Noah did not insult you.
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Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.
I never knew that.
Sad isn't it. Ask Chaim about this if u want or post a question in Ask The Rabbi program in Yeshiva or Kippa if u understand Hebrew.
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http://hayamin.org/forum/index.php/topic,20014.msg135427.html#msg135427
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
U sure u Noahide
Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did
Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?
Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.
Dan Ben Noah did not insult you.
Not like he wasn't trying to or his tone was just as annoying as his sense of "humor".
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere. As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis." Just MO. I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere. As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis." Just MO. I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.
Man, the only place he's noticed. I doubt and challenge his sense of humor lol, the only thing he made me feel is mercy on his nerdy-childish jokes.
As for the middle-school style BS, neh, it's the truth, sometimes funny, sometimes painful, this time painful. :'( just funny and pathetic how u people worship this guy.
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I think two people who want to get married should have the same religion.
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I think two people who want to get married should have the same religion.
This should be just common sense.
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere. As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis." Just MO. I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.
Man, the only place he's noticed. I doubt and challenge his sense of humor lol, the only thing he made me feel is mercy on his nerdy-childish jokes.
As for the middle-school style BS, neh, it's the truth, sometimes funny, sometimes painful, this time painful. :'( just funny and pathetic how u people worship this guy.
Worship the guy? In what way? You have a wild imagination, it seems.
I don't really know anything about his personal life, other than the fact that he puts a lot of time into this forum, he learned Hebrew, and he is a Noahide. If you do know something about his personal life, you shouldn't be saying stuff like that. That would be rather childish and offensive. Then again, you are probably just making stuff up. But in that case, why make middle school disses out of thin air?
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To be clear: If you know about his personal life why would you talk about that here? Surely this is against our religion, and at least against appropriate behavior for a forum.
If you don't know and are making stuff up, why are you making stuff up?
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere. As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis." Just MO. I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.
Man, the only place he's noticed. I doubt and challenge his sense of humor lol, the only thing he made me feel is mercy on his nerdy-childish jokes.
As for the middle-school style BS, neh, it's the truth, sometimes funny, sometimes painful, this time painful. :'( just funny and pathetic how u people worship this guy.
Worship the guy? In what way? You have a wild imagination, it seems.
I don't really know anything about his personal life, other than the fact that he puts a lot of time into this forum, he learned Hebrew, and he is a Noahide. If you do know something about his personal life, you shouldn't be saying stuff like that. That would be rather childish and offensive. Then again, you are probably just making stuff up. But in that case, why make middle school disses out of thin air?
I'm depressed. I expected someone who pretends to be intelligent to spent a bit thinking about what I said and not write 1 lame so-called insult and a whole 4 lines paragraph, u bored me than made me feel sorry for u and ur friend.
According to this crippled logic of urs, u cannot categorize me as and my talk as middle school style, I'd love to see Dan's or the most of the members of the forum do anything else rather than 24/7 mumbling in the forum as u call it.
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To be clear: If you know about his personal life why would you talk about that here? Surely this is against our religion, and at least against appropriate behavior for a forum.
If you don't know and are making stuff up, why are you making stuff up?
Surely turning against (or however Galut Jews call it) ur fellow Jew (no matter which situation the Jew is involved in) cause of a wipped Gentile who tells wimpish childish nerdy jokes about a simple technical issue (yup, "Earth language" is one tone me not likin) and writing a lecture thinking that ur something that has any sense of right doing so is ok in Judaism?
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i think this is a bug in the forum , there are at least two members who's nicks got scrumbled with all those x% and y's .... hmmm dan ben noah , indeed i agree with ron ,it was out of line
but guys , relax a little
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רון בני, מה קורה לך? למה אתה מעליב את דן בן נח הי''ו שהוא חסיד אומות העולם? אני אומר לך מפורשות שלפי תורתנו זה אסור לעשות דבר כזה.
כל בן אדם נברא ב"צלם אלוקים". על אחת כמה וכמה כשמדובר בחסיד אומות העולם. חסידי אומות העולם הם קדושים מאוד, יש להם מקום בעולם הבא שזה עולם הנצח, והקב''ה מאוד אוהב אותם. גם אנו מצווים לאהוב אותם. ללא ספק דן בן נח הוא חסיד אומות העולם. הוא שומר את שבע מצוות בני נח, הוא תומך בעם ישראל וארץ ישראל בהתלהבות כהניסטית, והוא מאוד עוזר לעם ישראל. הלוואי שהיהודים היו כמוהו. אילו 10% מהיהודים היו כמו דן בן נח, המשיח היה בא מזמן לגאול את העולם.
אני אדבר איתך יותר במסר פרטי.
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i think this is a bug in the forum , there are at least two members who's nicks got scrumbled with all those x% and y's .... hmmm dan ben noah , indeed i agree with ron ,it was out of line
but guys , relax a little
In my case it's a joke; I just thought Ron Ben Michael's symbol-name was too funny to resist aping (no pun intended, Reverend Sharpton). :laugh:
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I didn't quite like his annoying comment, this was out of line.
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רון בני, מה קורה לך? למה אתה מעליב את דן בן נח הי''ו שהוא חסיד אומות העולם? אני אומר לך מפורשות שלפי תורתנו זה אסור לעשות דבר כזה.
כל בן אדם נברא ב"צלם אלוקים". על אחת כמה וכמה כשמדובר בחסיד אומות העולם. חסידי אומות העולם הם קדושים מאוד, יש להם מקום בעולם הבא שזה עולם הנצח, והקב''ה מאוד אוהב אותם. גם אנו מצווים לאהוב אותם. ללא ספק דן בן נח הוא חסיד אומות העולם. הוא שומר את שבע מצוות בני נח, הוא תומך בעם ישראל וארץ ישראל בהתלהבות כהניסטית, והוא מאוד עוזר לעם ישראל. הלוואי שהיהודים היו כמוהו. אילו 10% מהיהודים היו כמו דן בן נח, המשיח היה בא מזמן לגאול את העולם.
אני אדבר איתך יותר במסר פרטי.
What'd you tell him, Chaim? (You can fill me in over PM.)
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Why does the hebrew which he types come out so garble? Chaim and I am able to type in hebrew and it appears properly...
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First, let me say that Dan Ben Noah is a saint. If he said something in a joking manner, it was certainly not meant to offend.
Ron Ben Michael is a very good Jew, but he misunderstood Dan's joke. Dan never intended to make fun of you, Ron. If you knew Dan, you would know what a magnificent human being he is. Ron, Dan has devoted a lot of his time to this movement so that young Israeli Jews like you could hear the truth. (Ron is 16 years old.)
Now there is some sort of bug that causes problems once in a while for those trying to type Hebrew on the English forum. Shlomo has tried to correct the problem, but it appears to be a bug in the software that we cannot correct. It's strange because Ron did type Hebrew on the English forum until a couple of days ago.
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!שלום ,חיים. בבקשה לנעול את הנושא
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I oppose it
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This is really not a good issue for our forum... We all know its forbidden and it really makes no difference if we agree or not.
I agree completely.
So do I. If G-d Himself opposes that, what else can be said?
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I don't feel society has the authority to forbid this practice. But it has become a plague and the Jewish exile is fast becoming extinct because of intermarriage. I believe the estimate is that 60% of American Jews, and even more so in Europe, as much as 90% of Jews in some exile communities, are marrying out.
So with this reality I do think it is very improper for Jews to marry out of the faith. As for gentiles who do marry Jews and are willing to convert, I wish rabbis would make it a little easier for them to do so.
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I don't think "for or against" makes a good debate. Noone here has yet presented a good FOR argument. If someone can, then I'm sure the argument would fill up an entire thread itself. Of course no FOR argument can outweigh hashem's commandments.
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I think the main problem with intermarriage is, what should your religious service be in the home?
The religious service in the house is imo the central issue of a strong family.
If a Jew and a Christian would stand before this problem, they would come in great spiritual troubles. It would be for all their life a dividing force between them.
Imo it cannot work properly. In addition to that, their children will be confused totally. Then they will become bad people. In the worst case bolschewiks.
This is not the way to go if you have compassion.
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I don't think the question is that simple.In my case,my father was Jewish but he didn't practice and my mother is Catholic so I was raised Catholic.In my eyes,even though my fathers last name is Cohen,he wasn't Jewish because he didn't practice so it was okay.
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My cousin married a Jew and later converted, they've been married 14 years and are happy, he's a great guy. I agree you should be yoked.
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First, let me say that Dan Ben Noah is a saint. If he said something in a joking manner, it was certainly not meant to offend.
Ron Ben Michael is a very good Jew, but he misunderstood Dan's joke. Dan never intended to make fun of you, Ron. If you knew Dan, you would know what a magnificent human being he is. Ron, Dan has devoted a lot of his time to this movement so that young Israeli Jews like you could hear the truth. (Ron is 16 years old.)
Now there is some sort of bug that causes problems once in a while for those trying to type Hebrew on the English forum. Shlomo has tried to correct the problem, but it appears to be a bug in the software that we cannot correct. It's strange because Ron did type Hebrew on the English forum until a couple of days ago.
I think the problem is that the browser he is using is not entering the proper characters... Someone suggested that it has to do with UTF-8 character encoding {which I suspected} and as it turns out when I set my Firefox to force UTF-8 encoding his name shows in proper Hebrew characters.
I will try to change my name to my Hebrew name...
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My cousin married a Jew and later converted, they've been married 14 years and are happy, he's a great guy. I agree you should be yoked.
In "Why be Jewish?" the Rav discusses the conservative and deformed's argument that even though we lose Jewish souls to assimilation we also gain converts. He discusses how the ones based on assimilation are not genuine ones and only last a generation or two if even that long, but when a Jew give's up the faith, he or she gives up something that can go all the way back to Abraham and Yitzchak. There is a difference between someone converting for personal reasons such as marriage and for the purpose of wanting to be Jewish.