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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Secularbeliever on December 28, 2009, 05:26:10 PM
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135240
This speaks for itself.
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Il Taqqiyah li Yahoodi.
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Never thought I see the day! :o
Live long enough I guess you'll see everything.
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Maybe this is an expetion.
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Damn right it's an exception! It's an exception to the point of being bizarre.
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
He is either a self-hating, pseudo-Muslim or is practicing taqqiyah as usual.
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It's no exception.
What A7 defines as "Qur'anic passages.." is totally BS. The Qur'an defines the whole earth as being divided into 2:
1.) Dar il-Islam - House of Islam , territories controlled by Muslims, the "believers".
2.) Dar il-Harb - House of war, territories that according to the Muslims theology were "stolen" (since "Allah"'s land is the whole earth, therefore, the whole earth belongs to the Muslims, according to Islam) by the "Kuffars" ("unbelievers", "non-believers", non-Muslims) and therefore they should be "liberated" by the Muslims and all means are ok.
This Qur'anic "passages" he's talking about are quotes from Lil-Assrah Wa Il-Ma'arraj (the Qur'anic verson of the Haditich "story" of "Muhammad's Night Journey"), part of Suraht il-Mackia (Sira of Macka). Back then, Muhammad wanted the Jews to like him, and therefore he copied many Jewish concepts (Monotheism for example) and also, added a part containing a Divine promise of the Land of Israel for the Jewish people.
But Suraht Il-Mackia, is NOT relavent any longer. According to the new, relavent version of the Qur'an, that Muhammad dictated to his slave in il-Yathrab (Madinah), Suraht il-Madinah (the Sira of il-Madinah), the Jewish people are hated by "Allah", and they should be murdered, robbed, humiliated, by the Muslims, with the help of "Allah".
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This piece of scum is barely a good liar. The tactic he uses is rather more useful, yet the lies are the same lies.
The Arabs and the Muslims will never be quiet until what they consider "il-Biladi il-Filistin" ("My Palestinian homeland") will be stolen by them, once again. The Jewish resistance to the Arab occupation in the State of Israel, and in the rest of the Jewish people's G-D given lands, shall NEVER fall.
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It's no exception.
What A7 defines as "Qur'anic passages.." is totally BS. The Qur'an defines the whole earth as being divided into 2:
1.) Dar il-Islam - House of Islam , territories controlled by Muslims, the "believers".
2.) Dar il-Harb - House of war, territories that according to the Muslims theology were "stolen" (since "Allah"'s land is the whole earth, therefore, the whole earth belongs to the Muslims, according to Islam) by the "Kuffars" ("unbelievers", "non-believers", non-Muslims) and therefore they should be "liberated" by the Muslims and all means are ok.
This Qur'anic "passages" he's talking about are quotes from Lil-Assrah Wa Il-Ma'arraj (the Qur'anic verson of the Haditich "story" of "Muhammad's Night Journey"), part of Suraht il-Mackia (Sira of Macka). Back then, Muhammad wanted the Jews to like him, and therefore he copied many Jewish concepts (Monotheism for example) and also, added a part containing a Divine promise of the Land of Israel for the Jewish people.
But Suraht Il-Mackia, is NOT relavent any longer. According to the new, relavent version of the Qur'an, that Muhammad dictated to his slave in il-Yathrab (Madinah), Suraht il-Madinah (the Sira of il-Madinah), the Jewish people are hated by "Allah", and they should be murdered, robbed, humiliated, by the Muslims, with the help of "Allah".
Very good point.
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
Arutz Sheva seems to specialise in finding those one in a million Arabs who love Israel. They always had Walid Jumblatt or Brigitte Gabriel on.
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
Arutz Sheva seems to specialise in finding those one in a million Arabs who love Israel. They always had Walid Jumblatt or Brigitte Gabriel on.
Well you have to remember that both of these people are Christians from Arabic speaking areas while this topic is about a Muslim. Big difference.
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
Arutz Sheva seems to specialise in finding those one in a million Arabs who love Israel. They always had Walid Jumblatt or Brigitte Gabriel on.
Well you have to remember that both of these people are Christians from Arabic speaking areas while this topic is about a Muslim. Big difference.
The difference..?
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This guy is not a real Muslim. He is distorting what the Koran says because he is uncomfortable with Islam's real message. He's like the "Reform" and "Conservative" Jews who distort Torah Judaism because they are uncomfortable with it.
Although he might be sincere, he does a lot of harm. Because he convinces foolish Jews that Islam is not an evil religion, that there are ways to interpret Islam as being pro-Israel, which is absolutely absurd. BTW, you will not find another sheik like this. He is literally one in a billion.
Arutz Sheva seems to specialise in finding those one in a million Arabs who love Israel. They always had Walid Jumblatt or Brigitte Gabriel on.
Well you have to remember that both of these people are Christians from Arabic speaking areas while this topic is about a Muslim. Big difference.
Actually Walid Shoebat (excuse my previous misnomer) was born a Muslim and was a Fatah terrorist. I believe he converted to Christianity. Brigitte was a Lebanese Christian I believe. However, the key point remains, these Muslim dissidents are freaks, one out of a million. Religious Muslims who want to live peacefully with Israel are few and far between.
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I think Ron means that the vast majority of so-called "Christian" Arabs are hardcore anti-Semites too.
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I think Ron means that the vast majority of so-called "Christian" Arabs are hardcore anti-Semites too.
I know but remember that Arabs are a race and these people mostly chose evil because they want to while the Muslims have to hate Jews by the Book and have no choice. That's what I meant.
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I think Ron means that the vast majority of so-called "Christian" Arabs are hardcore anti-Semites too.
I know but remember that Arabs are a race and these people mostly chose evil because they want to while the Muslims have to hate Jews by the Book and have no choice. That's what I meant.
That's the point. NO Arab can be good by his nature until he chooses to "escape", to quiet being an Arab. As long as he considered himself Arab, he belives that the land I'm standing on is his land, that I'm a Zionist thief, and that I shall be destroyed, with or without Jaish il Muhammad. No Arab, no matter Christian, Buddhist or a Pikachu worshipper, is innocent.
There are no "races"... The Arabs can choose to drop out of the Arab "civilization".
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Of course the Muslim Arabs have a choice too. They don't have to partake in devil-worship if they don't want to. Thousands of peoples in Islamic countries have risked martyrdom by leaving Islam over the years.
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Leaving Islam is only the first step. Islam's evil is deeply rooted in the Arab and Eastern African cultures. No Arab is innocent until he chooses to stop being an Arab, which is no race.
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Leaving Islam is only the first step. Islam's evil is deeply rooted in the Arab and Eastern African cultures. No Arab is innocent until he chooses to stop being an Arab, which is no race.
True, but I was addressing the idea that Muslim Arabs "have no choice" because of their "holy book".