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Title: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: mord on January 10, 2010, 07:19:58 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100110/ts_nm/us_malaysia_religion











  By Niluksi Koswanage Niluksi Koswanage   – Sun Jan 10, 5:24 am ET

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) – Would-be arsonists in mostly Muslim Malaysia struck at a convent school and a fifth church on Sunday while church leaders called for calm in a row over Christians' use of the word "Allah" to refer to God.

The attacks threaten Prime Minister Najib Razak's plan to win back non-Muslim support before elections due by 2013 and may scare investors away from Malaysia that has trailed Thailand and Indonesia for foreign investment.

Police in the sleepy city of Taiping, around 300 km (185 miles) from the capital Kuala Lumpur, said a petrol bomb was thrown at the guard house of a Catholic convent school but failed to go off.

They also said they had found several broken bottles including paint thinners outside one of the country's oldest Anglican churches, All Saints, Taiping, and said one of the building's walls had been blackened.

The row, over a court ruling that allowed a Catholic newspaper to use "Allah" in its Malay-language editions, had prompted Muslims to protest at mosques and sparked arson attacks on four churches that saw one Pentecostalist church gutted.

On Sunday, Malaysians packed churches to listen to sermons of "reaching out in friendship to all, including Muslims" and "keeping the peace in multi-religious Malaysia" but many felt their religious rights were being trampled.

"There are extremists in this country and the government seems unable to do anything," said Wilson Matayun, a salesman who attended Mass at St Anthony's Church in Kuala Lumpur. "I am losing faith in our government. I pray it does not get worse."

Matayun is from Sabah state on Borneo island, where a large number of non-English speaking Christians have used the word "Allah" for decades. Christians account for 9.1 percent of the 28 million population.

The government has appealed against the ruling, a marked contrast to countries like Indonesia, Egypt and Syria where Christian minorities freely use the Arabic word to refer to God.

Malaysia is mainly Muslim and Malay but there are sizable ethnic Chinese and Indian communities who mainly practice Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism.

They handed the government its biggest losses in 2008 state and national elections in part due to feelings of religious marginalization and growing disillusionment with corruption.

Najib's handling of the issue will determine whether he can keep the support of the Malays and win back ethnic Chinese and Indian voters to solidify his grip on power after taking control of the government last year
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: TruthSpreader on January 10, 2010, 08:07:15 AM
Do they still do that in Malaysia?
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: Saxon Marauder on January 10, 2010, 09:19:28 AM
Behold the future that awaits any land in which Islam is in the majority.  :o
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: syyuge on January 10, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
Muslam is the radical, terror and dictatorship. But then why anyone righteous shall be interested in taking the name of Allahooo.
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: TruthSpreader on January 10, 2010, 12:45:25 PM
Behold the future that awaits any land in which Islam is in the majority.  :o

Well I'm not surprised. This happens in every Muslim country.
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on January 10, 2010, 06:03:14 PM
In malaysia muslims are forbidden to practice yoga since it is not islamic.

2 of the 911 hijackers went to meet al qaeda members in kuala lumpur before coming to the US.
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: arksis on January 10, 2010, 06:18:46 PM
Behold the future that awaits any land in which Islam is in the majority.  :o

You are so right! How DARE them say what words can and cannot be used, what arrogants bass turds. >:(
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: Saxon Marauder on January 14, 2010, 12:03:22 PM
The use of the term Allah (or Allah al-Ab, Gd the Father) to refer to Gd has been used by Arabic Christians for a long time, centuries before there were any Muslims on earth.

Allah, according to Wiki, "was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-G-d, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Allah seems to have been a generic term and a specific term, like Gd (in English) or Theos in Greek (a generic term for a deity or as a name for Gd; Zeus is a variation of this term, for example, as is Jupiter). It depends upon the context in which the title is used; the Muslims try to pass their Allah off as the One True Gd. Is this true? Not by a long shot.
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: syyuge on January 14, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
Thanx for the justified elaboration, otherwise I was feeling that why anyone righteous shall be interested in taking the name of Allahooo.
 ;D
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: pennyjangle on January 14, 2010, 02:07:06 PM
"Allah" to refer to G-d...........DON'T MAKE me get TOMMY GUN!!  >:(
Title: Re: Malay qurananimal attacking Churches
Post by: Saxon Marauder on January 14, 2010, 11:54:28 PM
It's a generic name that's been soiled by Muslim use sadly.