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Title: China's fighter plane made from tooling and planes Israel sold to China
Post by: mord on January 13, 2010, 09:10:02 AM
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New Chinese J-10B coming soon!!!

A New J-10B fighter had being reviewed. It is an upgraded variant of J-10. It used DSI (divertless supersonic intakes), AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) or PESA (Passive Electronically Scanned Array) radar, IRST (Infra-red search and track) system, new HUD (Head-up display), larger tail fin, a further reduced radar cross-section.

New J-10B can compare with F-16E/F Block 60, JAS 39 Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, Rafale, F/A-18E,F Super Hornet, Mirage 2000, Mitsubishi F-2.

J-10A can compare with Mirage 2000, F-16C/D Block 40, F/A-18E,F Super Hornet, MiG-29 and Mitsubishi F-2

General characteristics
Crew: 1 or 2
Length: 16.5 m (54 ft)
Wingspan: 11.3 m (37 ft 2 in)
Height: 6.0 m (15 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 45.5 m² (490 ft)
Empty weight: 8000~9,730 kg (21,460 lb)
Useful load: 5,500 kg (9 920 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 19,277 kg (42,498 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Saturn-Lyulka AL-31FN or Woshan WS-10A "Taihang" turbofan
Dry thrust: 89.43 kN / 89.17 kN (17,860 lbf / 20,052 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 122.5 kN / 129.4 kN (27,557 lbf / 29,101 lbf)

Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2.0 at altitude, Mach 1.2 at sea level
Maximum range: 2,940 km
Combat radius: 750+ km
Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft)

Armament
Guns: 2× 23 mm internal cannon
Hardpoints: 11, 3 under each wing and 5 under the fuselage
Missiles:
Air-to-air: PL-8, PL-9, PL-11, PL-12
Air-to-surface: PJ-9, YJ-9K, 90 mm unguided rocket launcher pods
Bombs: laser-guided bombs (LT-2), glide bombs (LS-6) and unguided bombs

The Lavi was an Israeli project based on the F-16, it was a great success so much so that the US feared competition with there top seller the F16; so the US pulled strings and the Lavi was canceled.

The J-10 has about 0% commonality with the Lavi. They are completely different sizes, Lavi is lighter than the F-16C and the J-10 is larger than the F-16C, they share nothing in common apart from general layout and even then there different proportions.
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Title: Re: China's fighter plane made from tooling and planes Israel sold to China
Post by: syyuge on January 13, 2010, 10:14:37 AM
They have at least a common uncommon feature, that they both brandish a singular suction duct at the bottom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi

Specifications (Lavi)

General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 14.57 m (47 ft 10 in)
Wingspan: 8.78 m (28 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.78 m (15 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 33.0 m² (355 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,031 kg (15,500 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,991 kg (22,025 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 19,277 kg (42,500 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney PW1120 afterburning turbofan, 91.5 kN (20,600 lbf)
Performance

Maximum speed: 1,965 km/h (1,220 mph)
Range: 3,700 km (2,300 mi)
Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 254 m/s (50,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 303.2 kg/m² (62.0 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.94
Armament

1 × 30 mm DEFA cannon
7,260 kg (16,000 lb) of stores
[edit]See also

Comparable aircraft

Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon
Mitsubishi F-2
JAS 39 Gripen
Title: Re: China's fighter plane made from tooling and planes Israel sold to China
Post by: New Yorker on January 13, 2010, 11:03:24 AM
If the Chinese fly jets the same way they drive cars we won't have anything to worry about.  :::D

Sorry, couldn't resist.  ^-^
Title: Re: China's fighter plane made from tooling and planes Israel sold to China
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 13, 2010, 11:09:56 AM
What kind of self-hating move was this?
Title: Re: China's fighter plane made from tooling and planes Israel sold to China
Post by: New Yorker on January 13, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
What kind of self-hating move was this?

One of many, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have no statesmen, no real leaders, just politician criminals.