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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 16, 2010, 10:44:51 PM
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I always treated Steven Weigang with kindness and courtesy and respect. When he came to me with his personal problems, I always offered to help. Weigang thanked me and repeatedly told me how much he supports and admires JTF.
So I was shocked when I learned that Weigang was writing to people that I am a "terrorist", that G-d banned me from Israel, and that he finds it humorous and laughs at my being banned.
Weigang also praises the traitors Irv and Shelly Rubin, calling them the true examples of Kahanism.
Weigang says that JTF is not a real Kahanist organization and urges people to boycott JTF. He refers to JTF as "our enemies".
Here is what I wrote to Weigang in regard to the Rubins:
You write that the Rubins are not traitors.
When Irv Rubin called for the death penalty against the Jewish hero Jonathan Pollard in front of 30 million people on national American television, according to you, that was not treason.
When Irv Rubin condemned my actions to liberate Soviet Jewry as "terrorism" and said that I should be thrown in prison for the rest of my life, according to you, that was not treason. Oh I forgot, you say the same thing as Rubin. You also call me a "terrorist".
When Irv Rubin raised money for the "Victor Vancier Legal Defense Fund" to supposedly help me while I was in prison and instead he stole every penny, according to you, that was not treason.
When Irv Rubin told the Village Voice that he would not mourn if Rabbi Meir Kahane "dropped dead", according to you, that was not treason.
When Shelly Rubin supported the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from Gush Katif and northern Samaria because Arik Sharon knows what he is doing and because the expulsion is being carried out by the "democratically elected government of Israel", according to you, that was not treason.
After I sent this private message to Weigang, he responded by viciously attacking me personally and by smearing JTF on the German-language "JDL" forum that he created.
Weigang writes on his German forum that JTF "is a radical and violent organization in the United States". He then ridicules JTF by asserting that we are only an internet organization. How can we be a violent organization if we are only an internet organization? You can't have it both ways, Herr Weigang!
Of course, Weigang is a pathological liar who knows very well that we are not "violent". And he also knows that we are much more than just an internet organization. Not that we are ashamed of our vital internet work: we have over 1.5 million views on our Hebrew videos on flix, and we also reach many other people with over 1300 videos that we have posted on youtube. According to Weigang, this is not important.
In addition, we fund the activities of Judea/Samaria Jewish heroes such as Noam Federman - activities which prevent the Arab Nazis from taking over large sections of Biblical Israel. Nothing is more important to Jewish survival at this time than the struggle of the Judea/Samaria Jews to prevent the creation of an independent Hamas/Fatah Muslim Nazi terrorist state in Israel's Biblical heartland.
Steven Weigang is a sick person with a German "JDL" forum that no one goes to, just as Shelly Rubin has no one on her so-called forum. Weigang and Rubin each have "organizations" with only 3 or 4 members.
I created this thread so that everyone will know why I had to ban Weigang.
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I'm sorry to hear that this had to happen but I understand. I had no idea he had such animosity toward JTF.
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I'm sorry to hear that this had to happen but I understand. I had no idea he had such animosity toward JTF.
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I also had no idea. I still have his private messages where he repeatedly claimed that he supports us.
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While I wish I could say i'm surprised, i'm not. There are "double agents" and infiltrators everywhere you go nowadays.
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What a disappointment.
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I think that 10 minute videos are much more important than stickers, flyers, and t-shirts. Steven wrote on his forum that JTF donations "go into Chaim's pocket." It's terrible that he made such an accusation with no proof.
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The claim that I would steal money that goes to feed the children in hilltop outposts is so obscene that it is beyond words.
I have never taken a single penny from JTF. And I never took a single penny from JDL even though Rabbi Kahane offered to raise money to pay me a salary.
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He sounds like quite the backbiter! :o
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Oh, well. I can't even remember who that was.
What's his blog?
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While I wish I could say i'm surprised, i'm not. There are "double agents" and infiltrators everywhere you go nowadays.
How do you infiltrate an open forum?
It's open. It's open to all.
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I'm shocked because he really seemed enthusiastic towards JTF. I guess he had a different view of what an organization should be.
Exactly where did he write those things about JTF and why? It seems so sudden.
It's funny how all these so-called "Honorable" members have been getting banned. It started with the daleksfear guy then AH, PAZ and now GK. Makes you wonder..who will be the next traitor?
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
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Ahhh! I see.
He's with JDL of the fatherland:
So is he Deutschland Juden or is he part of the master race?
I don't believe he was Jewish....
It is sad that so many of the members turn rotten after a while. Sometimes I think we attract some very disturbed individuals like that MSD dude..
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When did this happen?!? Why was I so out of the loop?
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Ahhh! I see.
He's with JDL of the fatherland:
So is he Deutschland Juden or is he part of the master race?
I don't believe he was Jewish....
It is sad that so many of the members turn rotten after a while. Sometimes I think we attract some very disturbed individuals like that MSD dude..
ummm...was he ever? Probably not.
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I couldn't stand him anyway!!! Why the hell did he like George W Bush? If I was a moderator and I saw a member with that kind of name, I would have banned them cold Turkey!!!!!!
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I'm sorry to hear that this had to happen but I understand. I had no idea he had such animosity toward JTF.
He was an idiot.
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I thought it was weird that he posted on the splinter "forum" and the retard's so-called "forum".
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When did this happen?!? Why was I so out of the loop?
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I was also out of the loop. Until a few days ago, I considered him to be a loyal JTFer and regarded him as a personal friend.
All of a sudden, I see that he is viciously attacking us.
BTW, for those who are asking about his background, he is not Jewish and never was.
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
Let it go dude. Everyone's posts get edited at times.
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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I only removed one post with the link to his pathetic site. Again, I apologize AngryChineseKahanist.
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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I only removed one post with the link to his pathetic site. Again, I apologize AngryChineseKahanist.
Not a problem.
But you have to admit, you've crowned lots of people who later turned on you. Lots.
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What do you think Steven really is/was? Do you think he could have been a Pedofront infiltrator?
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you've crowned lots of people who later turned on you. Lots.
And how many of those people fooled you too, buddy?
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What do you think Steven really is/was? Do you think he could have been a Pedofront infiltrator?
Someone told me he's actually from the fatherland and of the master race.
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Don't feel too bad Chaim, I can't seem to find a contractor around here who wants to work, it's pathetic... :::D
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you've crowned lots of people who later turned on you. Lots.
And how many of those people fooled you too, buddy?
Quite a few.
Except the great master admin yacov. He was always a b___h.
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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I only removed one post with the link to his pathetic site. Again, I apologize AngryChineseKahanist.
Not a problem.
But you have to admit, you've crowned lots of people who later turned on you. Lots.
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I admit I've made my share of mistakes.
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I don't always agree, but you are an honourable man and it was a pleasure meeting you last year and I hope to meet you again some day.
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Well you all know my opinion about this don't u
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I don't always agree, but you are an honourable man and it was a pleasure meeting you last year and I hope to meet you again some day.
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Thank you. It was a pleasure meeting you and you are always welcome to come to our JTF gatherings.
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I would prefer not to publicize his pathetic site. I apologize AngryChineseKahanist for removing the post with his link but I don't want to give him the attention he desperately seeks.
You made him honourable winged member, but trash my posts. That's ok. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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I only removed one post with the link to his pathetic site. Again, I apologize AngryChineseKahanist.
Not a problem.
But you have to admit, you've crowned lots of people who later turned on you. Lots.
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I admit I've made my share of mistakes.
I think we all do.
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Well you all know my opinion about this don't u
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Ron, you deserve a lot of credit here.
You are the one person who warned me from the start about both Steven and Peter. I didn't listen to you. You were right and I was wrong.
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Ron, you deserve a lot of credit here.
You are the one person who warned me from the start about both Steven and Peter. I didn't listen to you. You were right and I was wrong.
I agree. Nobody believed Ron, but he was right. We didn't see any evidence that Steven and Peter were traitors at the time, but he somehow knew. My theory is that G-d directly spoke to him about them.
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Well you all know my opinion about this don't u
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Ron, you deserve a lot of credit here.
You are the one person who warned me from the start about both Steven and Peter. I didn't listen to you. You were right and I was wrong.
It takes a lot of manhood and balls to admit that you were wrong. It's good though to know the truth finally, I'd rather be pleased that you guys know that I wasn't being "parnoid" (hear that Dr.Brennan Fan?!) and that I knew who me and all of you were dealing with.
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When this individual started a thread back in June that he was thrilled about getting a Shelley Rubin signed JDL T-Shirt, I knew the potential for him going against JTF was a realistic possibility. I hoped it wouldn't come to this, as at one time he did promote JTF with many videos on Zootube. Yet, it seemed like he was getting more and more involved with people who could influence him away from JTF. His actions that resulted in his banning are disappointing to say the least. But not surprising. Hopefully, the day will come that he realized that he made a huge mistake.
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So sad. I aways liked German Kahanist's posts. :( But his comments behind our backs were awful.
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I agree. Nobody believed Ron, but he was right. We didn't see any evidence that Steven and Peter were traitors at the time, but he somehow knew. My theory is that G-d directly spoke to him about them.
Ron had extensive conversations with those reshaim on MSN, and he logically concluded that they they were here for all the wrong reasons.
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When this individual started a thread back in June that he was thrilled about getting a Shelley Rubin signed JDL T-Shirt, I knew the potential for him going against JTF was a realistic possibility. I hoped it wouldn't come to this, as at one time he did promote JTF with many videos on Zootube. Yet, it seemed like he was getting more and more involved with people who could influence him away from JTF. His actions that resulted in his banning are disappointing to say the least. But not surprising. Hopefully, the day will come that he realized that he made a huge mistake.
Yeah, just what I want. A T-shirt signed by big fat obese smelly shelly Rubin. :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:
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What do you think Steven really is/was? Do you think he could have been a Pedofront infiltrator?
no, he's just a foolish kid who really likes Irv Rubin.
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It takes a lot of manhood and balls to admit that you were wrong. It's good though to know the truth finally, I'd rather be pleased that you guys know that I wasn't being "parnoid" (hear that Dr.Brennan Fan?!) and that I knew who me and all of you were dealing with.
I already acknowledged that you were right, and that G-d was speaking to you.
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Woah, I did not see that coming. :o
What a shame.
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Well you all know my opinion about this don't u
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Ron, you deserve a lot of credit here.
You are the one person who warned me from the start about both Steven and Peter. I didn't listen to you. You were right and I was wrong.
No surprise here whatsoever. RCH asked me well over a year ago why Steven wasn't banned by Chaim after she observed his behavior on the forum. RCH also asked the same question about Peter at that time as well. However she made it plain to me that she did not want me to do anything about it because she didn't want to cast aspersions on people without proof they were traitors.
I also noticed how Steven often made posts in the Save Serbia sub-forum that were highly offensive to the heroic Serbs and kept saying he "didn't mean it": one of his ridiculous posts was entitled "Serbia is like Nokia [the cellphone] - it just keeps getting smaller and smaller."
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http://www.google.com/search?q=%22steven+weigang%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Mr. Steven Weigang. Internet celebrity. :laugh:
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My oppinion about this issue is, that Steven aka German Kahanist came in contact on the old kahane.org website with Shelly Rubin and Meir Weinstein. His "German JDL" website was imo not his idea alone.
Steven should have played with open cards and told us, where his loyalities are. Now it is clear.
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He's 18? Ah well, he's still a kid. In another 10 years he'll be a totally different person, lots of hope for him to wise up and grow out of it. I know I have almost nothing in common with the stupid punk kid that I was when I was 18. : )
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he was always posting pornography and horrible topic on serbian section .
That's way I stopped being active.
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he was always posting pornography and horrible topic on serbian section .
That's way I stopped being active.
Really?
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,41098.0.html
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My oppinion about this whole issue is, that Steven aka German Kahanist came in contact on the old kahane.org website with Shelly Rubin and Meir Weinstein. His "German JDL" website was imo not his idea alone.
Steven should have played with open cards and told us, where his loyalities are. Now it is clear.
Yes brother Ulli he should have indeed, but just like "Daleksfearme" and several other animals who were either banned or left of their own accord in the last few months, they never ever let their TRUE feelings and position be known because they are chickensh*t COWARDS. I remember your thread in the private moderators section many months ago exposing Steven's attacks on us on Shelley Rubin's pathetic forum. I could not understand then why he wasn't immediately banned.
One other thing I should point out is this:
I have noticed some JTF'ers have posted comments that they are still in regular contact with members who have been banned by Chaim. This is completely UNACCEPTABLE. Chaim is the Chairman of JTF and we MUST accept and honor his decisions to ban former members whether we like it or not.
I don't give a rat's a*s if you still "like them" or think these banned members are "nice people".
Any JTF'er who still remains in regular contact with banned members is not only undermining JTF's integrity but is also dishonoring and DISRESPECTING Chaim's position as Chairman of JTF.
Being in regular contact with banned members can only have an extremely NEGATIVE influence on your activity here and can only harm JTF as an organization in the long term and Chaim's aspirations for JTF to become a mass movement.
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Oh well, best that the bad apples are found out now, no one ever shares 100% same views on everything but to be backstabbed like that is the worst traitorious act ever, he obviously has no Honour amongst friends.
Do you think he was got to by your enemies,something to watch out for me thinks.
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backstabber, so sad to find that out. One may never know when the people acting nice would turn against you.
now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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While I wish I could say i'm surprised, i'm not. There are "double agents" and infiltrators everywhere you go nowadays.
You got that right.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
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backstabber, so sad to find that out. One may never know when the people acting nice would turn against you.
now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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For goodness sake are you trying to stir up trouble? Don't just start accusing people, especially long-time members.
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he was always posting pornography and horrible topic on serbian section .
That's way I stopped being active.
I remember that in his Photobucket photo library of the "women of the IDF", he posted photos of lesbian "soldiers" kissing. >:(
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Whats Hwm.I think he is fascinated with the Rubins ,but he never hid it here.
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now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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excuse me?
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
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backstabber, so sad to find that out. One may never know when the people acting nice would turn against you.
now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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For goodness sake are you trying to stir up trouble? Don't just start accusing people, especially long-time members.
Rubystars you should stop taking my posts seriouslyWhats Hwm.I think he is fascinated with the Rubins ,but he never hid it here.
Honorable Winged Membernow i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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excuse me?
i think you missed the laughing smiley :P
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
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The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
If someone turns on JTF, they were a Nazi all along. For instance look at Johnson Brown, who operated a Nazi forum and loves to make anti-Semitic comments on Zootube. Are we to believe that being banned just made this person turn from being a Christian Gentile Zionist to a Nazi anti-Semite overnight?
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
I've heard from someone here how he had an account on youtube where he complained about "evil Serbs" who give him a hard time on JTF. He bragged about his ustasha grandfather who killed Serbs with pitchforks. There were also subtile provocations on Serbian section all the time.
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backstabber, so sad to find that out. One may never know when the people acting nice would turn against you.
now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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For goodness sake are you trying to stir up trouble? Don't just start accusing people, especially long-time members.
Rubystars you should stop taking my posts seriouslyWhats Hwm.I think he is fascinated with the Rubins ,but he never hid it here.
Honorable Winged Membernow i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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excuse me?
i think you missed the laughing smiley :P
Hindu? I always thought you were ultra serious.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
American Hero had the problem, that he identified too much with Croatia and the Croatian people. If he would had done a little bit self-critique, then it would never came to this point where he was banned.
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American Hero had the problem, that he identified too much with Croatia and the Croatian people. If he would had done a little bit self-critique, then it would never came to this point where he was banned.
Yep.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
American Hero had the problem, that he identified too much with Croatia and the Croatian people. If he would had done a little bit self-critique, then it would never came to this point where he was banned.
Once again Ulli is 100% correct. And cjd is also quite right about there being fire where there is smoke. I am not even a Serb but an Ashkenazi Jew and yet despite always treating AH with courtesy and respect and being friendly to him by referring to him as "brother AH" and responding positively to his threads, even I was eventually attacked by him for posting Chaim's videos exposing the Ustasha Croat Nazis responsible for the murder of over a Million Christian Serbs - and together with their SS allies, the Bosnian and Albanian muslim Nazis - the slaughter of over 90,000 Yugoslav Jews in the most barbaric, primitive way imaginable.
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I think everyone here needs to say sorry to Ron here and welcome him back. Ron told me about GK about going and returning to Jewish date sites and I believed him but kept quiet. Ron knew what him and Peter was.
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I think the spies who do nót 'stir the pot' are a lot more dangerous.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
American Hero had the problem, that he identified too much with Croatia and the Croatian people. If he would had done a little bit self-critique, then it would never came to this point where he was banned.
Once again Ulli is 100% correct. And cjd is also quite right about there being fire where there is smoke. I am not even a Serb but an Ashkenazi Jew and yet despite always treating AH with courtesy and respect and being friendly to him by referring to him as "brother AH" and responding positively to his threads, even I was eventually attacked by him for posting Chaim's videos exposing the Ustasha Croat Nazis responsible for the murder of over a Million Christian Serbs - and together with their SS allies, the Bosnian and Albanian muslim Nazis - the slaughter of over 90,000 Yugoslav Jews in the most barbaric, primitive way imaginable.
It's not a problem if he loves his people. But he, like most other Croats, doesn't want to go against his own people even if they are sadistic animals like Ustashe. They value blood more than anything else.
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I think everyone here needs to say sorry to Ron here and welcome him back. Ron told me about GK about going and returning to Jewish date sites and I believed him but kept quiet. Ron knew what him and Peter was.
I did the same thing as you Bryan by keeping quiet about Steven and Peter for over a year despite RCH telling me they were both traitors right at the beginning of 2009.
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Now I remember the pitchforks thing and was puzzled to see how the paradox was passing through.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
American Hero had the problem, that he identified too much with Croatia and the Croatian people. If he would had done a little bit self-critique, then it would never came to this point where he was banned.
Once again Ulli is 100% correct. And cjd is also quite right about there being fire where there is smoke. I am not even a Serb but an Ashkenazi Jew and yet despite always treating AH with courtesy and respect and being friendly to him by referring to him as "brother AH" and responding positively to his threads, even I was eventually attacked by him for posting Chaim's videos exposing the Ustasha Croat Nazis responsible for the murder of over a Million Christian Serbs - and together with their SS allies, the Bosnian and Albanian muslim Nazis - the slaughter of over 90,000 Yugoslav Jews in the most barbaric, primitive way imaginable.
It's not a problem if he loves his people. But he, like most other Croats, doesn't want to go against his own people even if they are sadistic animals like Ustashe. They value blood more than anything else.
Chaim has absolutely nothing against good Croats and neither do I. We are only against the Ustashe Nazis who openly brag about their murder of Jews and Serbs on Zootube. Chaim even made AH an "Honorable Winged Member" and I never objected to this decision when it was made. So any Croat on Zootube who claims that Chaim hates all Croats and/or Gentiles/Roman Catholics is a pathological liar.
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I did the same thing as you Bryan by keeping quiet about Steven and Peter for over a year despite RCH telling me they were both traitors right at the beginning of 2009.
"RCH was right from the start!"
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who is RCH ?
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I did the same thing as you Bryan by keeping quiet about Steven and Peter for over a year despite RCH telling me they were both traitors right at the beginning of 2009.
"RCH was right from the start!"
Absolutely she was brother Robert!! :)
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who is RCH ?
Our Righteous Gentile friend who has helped JTF on Zootube in ways you cannot even begin to imagine HinduZionist!!
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who is RCH ?
Our Righteous Gentile friend who has helped JTF on Zootube in ways you cannot even begin to imagine HinduZionist!!
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and that member is on zootube only, not on forum? sorry i dont know much. But the efforts are truly great.
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who is RCH ?
Our Righteous Gentile friend who has helped JTF on Zootube in ways you cannot even begin to imagine HinduZionist!!
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and that member is on zootube only, not on forum? sorry i dont know much. But the efforts are truly great.
Yes she helped Chaim with our Hebrew videos for the last 6 months by rating, promoting & favoriting them as well as re-uploading literally HUNDREDS of them. She would get up every morning at 4 AM and would sometimes stay up for 18 hours doing this incredible work for us. All for the sincere love of the young Jews in Eretz Yisrael who wrote to her thanking her for her work.
She is now suffering from ill health and I want every JTF member to PLEASE pray a Refuah Shlema for her speedy recovery!!
May Hashem Bless RCH and her family!!!
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Well then Ron RCH and Joshua were right!!!
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http://www.google.com/search?q=%22steven+weigang%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Mr. Steven Weigang. Internet celebrity. :laugh:
I love it when people promote themeselves cause they don't have other people to do that
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Well then Ron RCH and Joshua were right!!!
We sure were brother Ron!!
Hakarat ha'emet!
G'mar Chatima Tova, Ron!!
Kol Tuv Achi
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Steven wasn't the first. Unfortunately he was a sick mentally disturbed individual much like those who turned against us in the past. More will come.
Jtf is not for people who really belong in a mental home. Its hard ti weed them out when you haven't met them in person. Thank Gd, however we are watching each others' backs. No need to be critical of anyone who didn't know what was coming.
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Maybe his nickname was hacked? He did post some strange topic about Serbian Rap music. I just want our member Serbian Husar back.
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Maybe his nickname was hacked? He did post some strange topic about Serbian Rap music. I just want our member Serbian Husar back.
Husar joined Tina Greco's side.
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4International, you are absolutely right. Chaim is not a racist. If Chaim hated all Croats he would have just banned AH right away.
Is RCH life-threateningly ill, or is it more of a chronic but not actually lethal problem she has? (You can PM me.)
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I'm shocked because he really seemed enthusiastic towards JTF. I guess he had a different view of what an organization should be.
Exactly where did he write those things about JTF and why? It seems so sudden.
It's funny how all these so-called "Honorable" members have been getting banned. It started with the daleksfear guy then AH, PAZ and now GK. Makes you wonder..who will be the next traitor?
ProJewCatholic is another honorable winged member who turned against JTF although he wasn't banned.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
Yes...I think a lot of members saw things with German Kahanist but did not want to rock the boat. While a few questionable things came to my attention about German Kahanist a while back I never personally saw the same with American Hero. Still as they say were there is smoke there must be fire. The big difference is that I have not seen A.H turn on JTF like some of the others who were banned did.
True he still wishes only the best for this site
I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
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Your guys are right on, giving 'Honorable' status to any new member should be carefully considered and a panel of admins and other honorable members should vote on it, just my opinion.
Here are a few of the RED Flags to look for in the future:
*anyone who posts excessively within short time of joining.
*posts personal info.+ pics of self or surroundings
*befriends quickly, gets to personal with select few.
*creates divisions by starting sensitive topics, tries to break up solidarity among members
Feel free to add you 2 cents...
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
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someone who wants your IM and sends you pics of themself and acts inappropriately.
Someone who continually insults other members who have been here longer than them, or just anyone, actually.
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I still think that Allen-T aka SamanthaTheCat was the biggest traitor. Before I joined the JTF, I remember when he use to be the first guy to post Pro-JTF videos and now he is a Neo-Nazi. He has to be is the biggest traitor to the JTF.
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Can someone explain the story of daleksfearme to me?
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Well this was a surprise. Why do people like him do this to us???
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
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I still think that Allen-T aka SamanthaTheCat was the biggest traitor. Before I joined the JTF, I remember when he use to be the first guy to post Pro-JTF videos and now he is a Neo-Nazi. He has to be is the biggest traitor to the JTF.
This guy is plain and simple nuts. The worst thing with him was, that he hid behind a the picture of a frum Christian to cover his evil ways. Later then he showed his true new flag as a supporter of Nazism. I think the main problem with this kind of people is their lack of identity. They don't know who they really are. They change their identity like other people change their underwear. There is another canidate of this category.
Tina G. -> Satanist? Witch? Jewess? KKK? Christian? Atheist? Kahanist?
I have noticed, that nearly all of the people who turned against us had this problem. They clearly were confused about who they really are.
P.S.: Steven has imo the same problem. He should come clean with his identity too.
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We on Serbian section knew it all along, but we couldn't say anything against "honorable winged member". It was the same situation with American Hero.
American Hero was banned?
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Maybe his nickname was hacked? He did post some strange topic about Serbian Rap music. I just want our member Serbian Husar back.
yea i read some older posts of member husar, who made fine posts.. can i know what happened to him? also Ozz?
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I sure do hope that Tina Greco has not come back here as someone else.
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I still think that Allen-T aka SamanthaTheCat was the biggest traitor. Before I joined the JTF, I remember when he use to be the first guy to post Pro-JTF videos and now he is a Neo-Nazi. He has to be is the biggest traitor to the JTF.
This guy is plain and simple nuts. The worst thing with him was, that he hid behind a the picture of a frum Christian to cover his evil ways. Later then he showed his true flag as a supporter of Nazism. I think the main problem with this kind of people is their lack of identity. They don't know who they really are. They change their identity like other people change their underwear. There is another canidate of this category.
Tina G. -> Satanist? Witch? Jewess? KKK? Christian? Atheist? Kahanist?
I have noticed, that nearly all of the people who turned against us had this problem. They clearly were confused about who they really are.
P.S.: Steven has imo the same problem. He should come clean with his identity too.
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Can someone explain the story of daleksfearme to me?
I believed he lied about his account being hacked. He was playing tqaiuyya even though wasn't a Muslim.
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Maybe his nickname was hacked? He did post some strange topic about Serbian Rap music. I just want our member Serbian Husar back.
yea i read some older posts of member husar, who made fine posts.. can i know what happened to him? also Ozz?
Husar left I think because of member Dalmatia. I wish he comes back.
German Kahanist was one of the members I loved the most. I still can't believe he was double agent. We need to be more careful in the future. After all, German Kahanist had some wonderful topics about what muslims are doing in the Western Europe.
I wonder now how he can sleep with this betrayal? From now on, how can I trust any western European?
We also had some great South African members I truly admired. I don't know what have happend to them either? Did they turn against us too?
To me it seems it is only us Serbs and the Jews left alone to fight evil in this world. May God help us. This new Obama's administration is determined to destroy Israel. I am very convinced that Serbia is its next target.
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I didn't mean to be condescending, it's just that some members seem to think that he was banned because he was Croatian or because the Serbian members hated him, which could not be farther from the truth. You ask why you'd spend much time there, aren't you a Moderator? I'm not saying you should be there 24/7 but you could check in once in a while to make sure there aren't any problems. As far as I know though you're right about it not being a place for non-Serbs. Just ask Moshe92. Legend has it he gets attacked by a pack of wolves everytime he drops in.
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This boy has mental problems, and is a nasty low backstabber to boot. How he could he make fun of Chaim's ban from Israel is beyond words. I was totally caught off guard by this nasty back stabber. Oh well, live and learn.
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he was always posting pornography and horrible topic on serbian section .
That's way I stopped being active.
I remember that in his Photobucket photo library of the "women of the IDF", he posted photos of lesbian "soldiers" kissing. >:(
Ewwwwwwwwww gross grosy! :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: Posting something like that on a right wing forum is unacceptable!!!
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backstabber, so sad to find that out. One may never know when the people acting nice would turn against you.
now i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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For goodness sake are you trying to stir up trouble? Don't just start accusing people, especially long-time members.
Rubystars you should stop taking my posts seriouslyWhats Hwm.I think he is fascinated with the Rubins ,but he never hid it here.
Honorable Winged Membernow i'm beginning to doubt members like Dr. Bernnan Fan, who is a HWM too
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excuse me?
i think you missed the laughing smiley :P
I guess she didn't get it. :::D
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Chaim, I think you are overreacting in your condemnation of GK. I think he is mistaken but not a traitor. If we had been patient with him, he would have concluded by himself that the Rubins are no good.
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This is what happens when I don't go on the forum for a long time -_-
When he first signed up here as George W Bush the hero, I was suspicious. But he seemed to be supportive of us, so I let it go. When he changed his name to Chaim Ben Pesach the Hero, I didn't even think to be suspicious that he was trying to trick us or suck up to Chaim. I thought he was just trying to praise Chaim.
The fact that he was saying all this crap behind our backs is disgusting. I can't believe we let this guy get so close to us. Its like the other traitors of the past all over again. Perhaps we should pay closer attention to the positions of our members.
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I'm curious, who did you hear it from?
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I think it has been explained to him that irv rubin was a traitor.
I don't see how he would want to be affiliated with persons like that.
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On the other hand, I do think he was a real traitor and still is.
Apparently he is oblivious to clear reasoning and thus to be considered insane.
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donkey kisser = a suck up, someone who will kiss someone's butt to gain points. Sometimes these folks are known as bum-kissers. Often these folks tend to be the goody goody types whom one can not trust for a second - these folks will use what you tell them, or do, against you for their own personal gain. Most of these people are social nerds with few social skills - the only way they can get attention is to play suck up to someone important - usually a boss, manager or teacher/professor - an authority fiqure.
The best way to deal with these kind of people - bum-kissers is to avoid them - never trust them, never confide with them.
I had a co-worker who was the consumate donkey-kisser - he would suck up to the boss all day long to gain favors and access. All of us in the office were aware of this situation and adopted a strategy of avoidance - keeping our mouths shut and not getting involved with the little bum kisser in any way. The little donkey kisser functioned in his own little world.
From Urban dictionaryhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=suck-up+to
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The thing is that Steven was openly working on his JDL-Germany for a while, but he stayed neutral on the conflict JDL vs JTF and everything seemed ok. In retrospect this was an accident in the making. I think he is very young and still uncorrupted. If he works with the Rubins either he will turn out a phony like them, or else he would learn their true nature and part ways with them.
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I didn't mean to be condescending, it's just that some members seem to think that he was banned because he was Croatian or because the Serbian members hated him, which could not be farther from the truth. You ask why you'd spend much time there, aren't you a Moderator? I'm not saying you should be there 24/7 but you could check in once in a while to make sure there aren't any problems. As far as I know though you're right about it not being a place for non-Serbs. Just ask Moshe92. Legend has it he gets attacked by a pack of wolves everytime he drops in.
Yes - I am a moderator on this forum. There are co-moderators for that section of the forum. They do a good job. I have read once or twice (that count is low) in that section that non Serbs can't add their 2 cents (I don't remember the exact wording, but I got the message loud and clear) because they don't understand the Serbian issues. It wasn't said in a nice way either. Also, at times members communicate in Serbian. Since I don't understand the language...what would you have me moderate.
I hope that answers voo-yoo's question.
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Bullcat, with all due respect, I think you are promoting a false dichotomy here. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your ally. Just because GK and PAZ did not get along with Americanhero does not mean that AH was a great guy. True, he was not a troll or phony or backstabber, but he simply had views incompatible with fundamental JTF principles.
I have never, ever heard of non-Serbs not being allowed to post in the Serbia section. I have before many times and gotten no negative responses.
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I didn't mean to be condescending, it's just that some members seem to think that he was banned because he was Croatian or because the Serbian members hated him, which could not be farther from the truth. You ask why you'd spend much time there, aren't you a Moderator? I'm not saying you should be there 24/7 but you could check in once in a while to make sure there aren't any problems. As far as I know though you're right about it not being a place for non-Serbs. Just ask Moshe92. Legend has it he gets attacked by a pack of wolves everytime he drops in.
Yes - I am a moderator on this forum. There are co-moderators for that section of the forum. They do a good job. I have read once or twice (that count is low) in that section that non Serbs can't add their 2 cents (I don't remember the exact wording, but I got the message loud and clear) because they don't understand the Serbian issues. It wasn't said in a nice way either. Also, at times members communicate in Serbian. Since I don't understand the language...what would you have me moderate.
I hope that answers voo-yoo's question.
Please come and post on our section. The way we say things can be interpreted rude in American culture. I am sure that nobody meant anything against you. Of course you do not know situation in Serbia, but we Serbs do not understand it fully either. Some members communicate in Serbian language only on occasions. Serbian section is always open for other members to post their opinions. We might like or dislike these opinions. Explanations must be provided in appropriated way if we reply why we think your opinions undermines our efforts to spread the truth. In each section I think there will be people who disagree with you and don't take this too personaly please!
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I didn't mean to be condescending, it's just that some members seem to think that he was banned because he was Croatian or because the Serbian members hated him, which could not be farther from the truth. You ask why you'd spend much time there, aren't you a Moderator? I'm not saying you should be there 24/7 but you could check in once in a while to make sure there aren't any problems. As far as I know though you're right about it not being a place for non-Serbs. Just ask Moshe92. Legend has it he gets attacked by a pack of wolves everytime he drops in.
Yes - I am a moderator on this forum. There are co-moderators for that section of the forum. They do a good job. I have read once or twice (that count is low) in that section that non Serbs can't add their 2 cents (I don't remember the exact wording, but I got the message loud and clear) because they don't understand the Serbian issues. It wasn't said in a nice way either. Also, at times members communicate in Serbian. Since I don't understand the language...what would you have me moderate.
I hope that answers voo-yoo's question.
Do you have a link to that thread? I just want to see if someone disagreed with you or said you can't post.
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Bullcat, with all due respect, I think you are promoting a false dichotomy here. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your ally. Just because GK and PAZ did not get along with Americanhero does not mean that AH was a great guy. True, he was not a troll or phony or backstabber, but he simply had views incompatible with fundamental JTF principles.
I have never, ever heard of non-Serbs not being allowed to post in the Serbia section. I have before many times and gotten no negative responses.
I'm sorry to disagree with you, Dr. Brennan Fan. This is how I feel.
GK and PAZ are neither friend or enemy to me. Their immaturity led to them being banned. I could see their being banned coming from a mile away.
I am fully aware of Chaim's reasons for banning AH. I happen to believe that AH was a good JTFer. Even if he had some fundamental differences with JTF principles. I also know that I can express my opinions to Chaim Ben Pesach without fear. Just agreeing for the sake of agreement is not a requirement of belonging here. Not in my experience anyway.
I do remember reading negative responses in the Serbian section. So my experience may have been different.
As for voo-yoo wanting links. Nope - don't have any handy. Not going to look for them either. I have no reason to lie.
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I agree. Funny that he was railroaded by...PZ and GK(both banned). I know the Serbian members didn't want him here because he is Croatian, but look who help them acheive their goals.
They should stop bringing AH up.
I doubt you even took a look at some of his posts in the Serbian section. Though I hope it was explained to you why he was banned so you don't assume that he was banned because he was Croatian. And yes I am aware that when he first joined he was questioned by members. During my time here, no one had any problems with him though.
I'm quite aware of the reasons given for AH being banned. You don't have to be condescending. I'm entitled to have my thoughts on the subject. How is it possible to say that no one had any problems with him?
By the way, why would I spend much time in the Serbian section? It is no place for non Serbs or so I have heard.
I didn't mean to be condescending, it's just that some members seem to think that he was banned because he was Croatian or because the Serbian members hated him, which could not be farther from the truth. You ask why you'd spend much time there, aren't you a Moderator? I'm not saying you should be there 24/7 but you could check in once in a while to make sure there aren't any problems. As far as I know though you're right about it not being a place for non-Serbs. Just ask Moshe92. Legend has it he gets attacked by a pack of wolves everytime he drops in.
Yes - I am a moderator on this forum. There are co-moderators for that section of the forum. They do a good job. I have read once or twice (that count is low) in that section that non Serbs can't add their 2 cents (I don't remember the exact wording, but I got the message loud and clear) because they don't understand the Serbian issues. It wasn't said in a nice way either. Also, at times members communicate in Serbian. Since I don't understand the language...what would you have me moderate.
I hope that answers voo-yoo's question.
Please come and post on our section. The way we say things can be interpreted rude in American culture. I am sure that nobody meant anything against you. Of course you do not know situation in Serbia, but we Serbs do not understand it fully either. Some members communicate in Serbian language only on occasions. Serbian section is always open for other members to post their opinions. We might like or dislike these opinions. Explanations must be provided in appropriated way if we reply why we think your opinions undermines our efforts to spread the truth. In each section I think there will be people who disagree with you and don't take this too personaly please!
All the members of the Serbian section should be like you and Serbian Canadian.
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If Chaim was pocketing JTF money he WOULD NOT LIVE IN NEW YORK!
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who is RCH ?
Our Righteous Gentile friend who has helped JTF on Zootube in ways you cannot even begin to imagine HinduZionist!!
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and that member is on zootube only, not on forum? sorry i dont know much. But the efforts are truly great.
Yes she helped Chaim with our Hebrew videos for the last 6 months by rating, promoting & favoriting them as well as re-uploading literally HUNDREDS of them. She would get up every morning at 4 AM and would sometimes stay up for 18 hours doing this incredible work for us. All for the sincere love of the young Jews in Eretz Yisrael who wrote to her thanking her for her work.
She is now suffering from ill health and I want every JTF member to PLEASE pray a Refuah Shlema for her speedy recovery!!
May Hashem Bless RCH and her family!!!
Oh no Joshua, I am so sorry to hear this! God Bless RCH and I will keep her in my daily prayers that she recovers fully. I truly hope her illness is not serious! Please also thank RCH from ALL OF US for her devotion to JTF. How I wish I could be like her. :'(
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You know the scary thing was that i added this fellow on msn..
Well I hope he doesn't make my name and msn email public or anything.
However I ignored his support for irv rubin and shelley rubin and dismissed it as maybe he was a bit stupid and ignorant
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If Chaim was pocketing JTF money he WOULD NOT LIVE IN NEW YORK!
Also, with the communication ability, overall intelligence, and work ethic that Chaim has, he could make MUCH more money if he wasn't devoted to the JTF cause. Thankfully, Chaim is devoted to the JTF cause. When it comes to commitment and sacrifice, Chaim doesn't take a backseat to anyone.
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who is RCH ?
Our Righteous Gentile friend who has helped JTF on Zootube in ways you cannot even begin to imagine HinduZionist!!
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and that member is on zootube only, not on forum? sorry i dont know much. But the efforts are truly great.
Yes she helped Chaim with our Hebrew videos for the last 6 months by rating, promoting & favoriting them as well as re-uploading literally HUNDREDS of them. She would get up every morning at 4 AM and would sometimes stay up for 18 hours doing this incredible work for us. All for the sincere love of the young Jews in Eretz Yisrael who wrote to her thanking her for her work.
She is now suffering from ill health and I want every JTF member to PLEASE pray a Refuah Shlema for her speedy recovery!!
May Hashem Bless RCH and her family!!!
Joshua, my thoughts and prayers are certainly with RCH. I hope she makes a speedy and complete recovery. RCH has made a tremendous positive difference for JTF.
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If Chaim was pocketing JTF money he WOULD NOT LIVE IN NEW YORK!
Yes, our good Chaim would never do such a thing. He lives a humble lifestyle.
It is a lie, that once was spread by angry people during the usual fights with another Jewish group. I am shure some of them regreted to have said this.
I am so tired of hearing it without any proof again and again and again. This is called defamation.
Steven has to remove this slander.
I remember well the times when people fought eachother instead of caring for the important issues. I don't want this time back. It has hurt me very much to see so much good people gone. We should not fall back in the kahane.org-fights again. We all will suffer from it.
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We're jumping all over the place here. A statement has been made and the appropriate action has been taken. Why the heck are we talking about people who have absolutely nothing to do with Steven Weigang/"German Kahanist"? It's time to move on folks.
This kind of conversation is counter-productive. This thread is locked.