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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Spiraling Leopard on January 20, 2010, 03:25:11 PM
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Because I was standing for 4 hours holding up a sign saying "Geert Akbar" in the bleeding cold and I don't want whorenalists to know my real name.
And it will bring more people to the site, people googling Chaim's name and so forth and so on.
I wore my JTF Jacket and the back of my sign said JTF.org. My shoulders really hurt.
One woman said she respected me, another said I was a hero, one policeman said I was the man of the day and I had lots of positive comments and people asking me what the JTF is.
I got interviewed by several people including some freelance English press persons and I explained a bit about JTF and told them my name was Chaim Ben Pesach.
I also got interviewed by 'Rutger' from www.geenstijl.nl but they only used a picture of me on the site.
JTF should get loads of visits from the Netherlands.
Amen.
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I THINK IT'S A PORNO SITE :::D :::D :::D :::D
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I THINK IT'S A PORNO SITE :::D :::D :::D :::D
It's Hollands best visited site.
The guy interviewed me but didn't use anything of it in the video's. As it is a degrading site it's main function was to make fun of Wilders supporters.
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I dont think this is a good idea.... Deception is deception regardless of your intention. You may harm Chaims image and your own..
I think it is wrong to impersonate anyone..
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Once you were being interviewed, it was a mistake to call yourself by Chaim's name. Now things that he didn't say himself will be in print, in his name? That's not cool.
The rest of your work is to be commended, but the impersonation part was a mistake. You could have made up any name. Why did you pick a real one?
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Once you were being interviewed, it was a mistake to call yourself by Chaim's name. Now things that he didn't say himself will be in print, in his name? That's not cool.
The rest of your work is to be commended, but the impersonation part was a mistake. You could have made up any name. Why did you pick a real one?
I have read the few 'quotes' in the Dutch media and they were all good; the only real substantial thing I have been quoted in is about the demographic threat and that JTF tries to expose islam and liberal politicians.
Besides, only Dutch people will read it. should they decide to google a bit they will see that Chaim Ben Pesach is not at all a Dutch guy.
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Where exactly is that picture of you on that site? I clicked on Naughty Girls but I didn't find your picture. :::D
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Where exactly is that picture of you on that site? I clicked on Naughty Girls but I didn't find your picture. :::D
Bleeding crap, that was a typo. I'm sorry about that, it is fixed now. It's the second topic from above.
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Hey that's you with the Geert Akbar Sign? Cool!
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(http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/geertakbar100.jpg)
Just to save New Yorker any further trauma clicking through the naughty girls. :::D
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I don't think it was a good idea to pretend to be Chaim, althrough you had good intentions.
Here is an article I found on the web about it: http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/4/AMSTERDAM/article/detail/276173/2010/01/20/Steun-voor-redder-Geert-Wilders.dhtml
Translation this time better thanks to penny's translator hint:
Support for 'savior' Geert Wilders
AMSTERDAM - The Netherlands has the voice of the morning alarm clock early and put the state court to Parnassusweg. Especially the sign makers have great time. "Our freedom ritual sex, Lady Justice in a burqa and Fryslân for freedom of expression. Andre Wijsman from Leiden 'Legal Jihad "and invented by his friend to put the picture. They were there.
Wijsman:''We are here to support those good sir. The savior of the Dutch people.''Friend Arjan van Berkel:''I'm a thousand percent agree with Wilders. We're tired eh. This beautiful little country.''
Lady Justice who also appears to be photoshopped. Paul Tuijl:''I'm here for my and your freedom. We have our mothers taught you soothingly to act as someone insults you. But there are some cultures differently.''
Hundreds of fighters free speech this morning met. A man has black tape over his mouth taped. He also says nothing.
A family skinheads brotherly state alongside a man of the Jewish Task Force. "Geert Akbar" is on the board of Chaim Ben Pesach from Den Haag.
Ben Pesach and his fight against Force 'reproductive demographic battle "of the Muslims. The arithmetic is simple. Ben Pesach:''Five children per couple. Over forty years we live in a country with a Muslim majority. I think no pleasant prospect.''
Also from Krommenie Thom is here "for freedom". Thom:''They try to kick Wilders bottom, but as a gentleman who has nailed each one hundred women in Turkey runs a nightclub, not hear the minister.''
Because nowadays you can not even say "a lot terrorize the population. Just once by Osdorp nice walk tonight.''
Martina van den Boogaard has never been demonstrated. Now she came all the way from Eindhoven. She is angry because. Van den Boogaard:''I was always liberal, but the cake is on. It is a slick, but fear reigns. Why is the Party for the Animals is not here, but with an eel smokehouse? On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose.''
Petra from "near Haarlem 'is not just for themselves. ''For my children and grandchildren. I'm worried. Can it? They do not adjust to, so they go away. I myself am divorced. We did not fit together, so he lives in the house and I'm somewhere else to live. And why am I here. Your welcome. Say, can you do me a hand?''(HANS VAN DER BEEK)
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I saw only one skinhead and he was standing 2 meters away. This is socialist whorenalism; I'm surprised they even quoted me right.
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What kind of translation is this?
"Why is the Party for the Animals is not here, but with an eel smokehouse? On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose.''
On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose? What in heck is that supposed to mean?
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What kind of translation is this?
"Why is the Party for the Animals is not here, but with an eel smokehouse? On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose.''
On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose? What in heck is that supposed to mean?
Here I used this translator: http://www.stars21.com/translator/dutch_to_english.html
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What kind of translation is this?
"Why is the Party for the Animals is not here, but with an eel smokehouse? On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose.''
On ritual slaughter have not seen their nose? What in heck is that supposed to mean?
Here I used this translator: http://www.stars21.com/translator/dutch_to_english.html
Hmm googles translation service also gives the same results.... I guess dutch is just not intelligible from an English perspective or maybe their idioms make no sense here...
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Bioelectric, you are in the German TV: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1042222.html
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Bio, you are incredible for what you did. Maybe saying you were Chaim was a bit over the line, but I would honestly pay for you to come here to the states.
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This seems rather silly if you ask me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXBRY9I8HE
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Reuters took you in their video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXBRY9I8HE
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I have seen not a single skinhead on this demonstration in the videos. There were people of all colours and ages. t is simply a smear.
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בס''ד
Robert, G-d bless you! You are a real hero! You succeeded in getting a lot of attention.
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I didn't know u lived there.
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Robert..............
Good job..........
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בס''ד
By the way, the sign that Bio-Electric held was very clever. It was the perfect sign to get lots of attention.
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Bioelectric, you are in the German TV: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1042222.html
At 3:23, he is there! How neat!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXBRY9I8HE
at 4:36 they talk to Bio! How cool is THAT?!
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Great work!.
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Nice job. I liked seeing your JTF jacket.
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How many Chaim Ben Pesachs will there be in the future?
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בס''ד
Robert, G-d bless you! You are a real hero! You succeeded in getting a lot of attention.
I agree wholeheartedly. If Chaim doesn't have a problem with Robert referring to himself as "Chaim Ben Pesach" in order to get publicity for JTF then neither should we.
G-d Bless you brother Robert on a magnificent job!! :) :)
PS: I hope your shoulders aren't hurting so much now. Next time attach a long wooden pole to your sign, LOL.
;D
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Robert, G-d bless you! You are a real hero! You succeeded in getting a lot of attention.
I agree wholeheartedly. If Chaim doesn't have a problem with Robert referring to himself as "Chaim Ben Pesach" in order to get publicity for JTF then neither should we.
G-d Bless you brother Robert on a magnificent job!! :) :)
PS: I hope your shoulders aren't hurting so much now. Next time attach a long wooden pole to your sign, LOL.
;D
I can't believe I'm all over the internet now.
The sign was a bit of a rush job.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sE0VixSW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvZ3BcoH3k
:)
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/geert-wilders-trial-scenes-from-the-criminal-prosecution-of-free-speech.html
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I am glad for the publicity but I still think it's not good to lie about things or impersonate others. Then again if I tried to say I was Chaim I don't think anyone would believe me anyway. ;D
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I am glad for the publicity but I still think it's not good to lie about things or impersonate others. Then again if I tried to say I was Chaim I don't think anyone would believe me anyway. ;D
:::D
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Wow, a lot of media attention. That's great. And it seems like Chaim didn't mind the impersonation ;D
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BRILLIANT SIGN!!!! CAN I HAVE A LINK TO THAT PIC? I WANNA USE IT AS MY FACEBOOK PROFILE PIC, IF THAT'S OK. THANKS.
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Robert you did brilliantly good with that slogan !
And besides... I'm Spartacus ... No just kidding, it reminded me the movie if you know ...
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http://newsodrome.com/religion_news/wilders-trial-begins-geert-akbar-12389630
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http://www.rp-online.de/politik/ausland/Geert-Wilders-provoziert-mit-gruener-Krawatte-vor-Gericht_bid_51681.html
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Oh no. The new Germany Das neue Deutschland reports about the sign:
http://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/163447.wilders-weist-anklage-zurueck.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neues_Deutschland
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/wilders-if-expressions-reflect-the-truth-how-could-they-be-criminal.html
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http://www.refdag.nl/artikel/1457678/Voor+PVV+is+het+niet+Allah+maar+Geert+Akbar.html
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http://www.dagelijksestandaard.nl/2010/01/20/geert-akbar/
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/preliminary-hearing-Geert-Wilders/photo//100120/481/8abcc802a6bf42059cff625dc4b11c0b//s:/ap/20100120/ap_on_re_eu/eu_netherlands_hate_speech
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Robert Akbar
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There are hundreds over hundreds of articles all over the world about Chaim/Chain ben Pesach/Pessach & Geert Akbar but only a few about Jewish Task Force.
Look it up on google & google news. I seriously can't quote all. :)
Interesting what they say who Chaim is:
A member of JTF
A PVV member
A gentile
An defender of free speech
A Jew
etc.
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LOL great job Robert ,you are American? :clap: :clap: :clap:
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There are hundreds over hundreds of articles all over the world about Chaim/Chain ben Pesach/Pessach & Geert Akbar but only a few about Jewish Task Force.
Look it up on google & google news. I seriously can't quote all. :)
Interesting what they say who Chaim is:
A member of JTF
A PVV member
A gentile
An defender of free speech
A Jew
etc.
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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http://www.refdag.nl/artikel/1457678/Voor+PVV+is+het+niet+Allah+maar+Geert+Akbar.html
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I am glad for the publicity but I still think it's not good to lie about things or impersonate others. Then again if I tried to say I was Chaim I don't think anyone would believe me anyway. ;D
It's not that I really tried to pretend I was Chaim, or famous or anything. It's just that some people at the end of an interview asked for my name and I thought it would be considerate to give them something that would show up on google.
They wíll google it and by doing so they will immediately see that I lied about my name.
BUT,
they unwillingly be once again end up investigating JTF because I made them.
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I am glad for the publicity but I still think it's not good to lie about things or impersonate others. Then again if I tried to say I was Chaim I don't think anyone would believe me anyway. ;D
It's not that I really tried to pretend I was Chaim, or famous or anything. It's just that some people at the end of an interview asked for my name and I thought it would be considerate to give them something that would show up at google.
They will google it and by doing so they will immediately see that I lied about my name.
BUT,
they unwillingly be once again end up investigating JTF because I made them.
Again great work
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Bioelectric, you are in the German TV: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1042222.html
Can someone put this on youtube? It only shows the first 30 seconds on my computer.
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I really hate my voice on the youtube video. I have a really sore throat and today I can't even speak.
That high pitchsound annoys me. I also look like my scarv is choking me. I gues I was too frozen to notice. I really look like an idiot.
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Bio, you are incredible for what you did. Maybe saying you were Chaim was a bit over the line, but I would honestly pay for you to come here to the states.
So how much money are we talking?
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I really hate my voice on the youtube video. I have a really sore throat and today I can't even speak.
That high pitchsound annoys me. I also look like my scarv is choking me. I gues I was too frozen to notice. I really look like an idiot.
בס''ד
You look great and you sound great! Your sign was brilliant!
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Just saw the video in the link, hey Bio-Electric Apprentice you're a good looking kid, go out and get yourself a nice girlfriend. ; )
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Can 1 of the administrators confirm an unusual rise in visiters these last days?
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Bioelectric, you are in the German TV: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1042222.html
How big is spiegel? Is it national tv?
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Bioelectric, you are in the German TV: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-1042222.html
How big is spiegel? Is it national tv?
It is the biggest German news website. Now at least millions of people know you. :)
They have 121.528.785 visitors every month according to wiki.
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This was the back of the sign. It was just 4 layers of paper.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5619/23012010189.jpg)
Another picture:
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1953/geertakbar.jpg)
I was in one of the biggest Dutch newspapers:
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1593/geertakbarad.jpg)
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As long as Chaim didn't mind, I think this is WAY cool.
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The german video is on youtube now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTcBJwSSr7g
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Bio, is there any way we could get an English translation of everything you said in the interview?
Only by contacting Spiegel but I will doubt they will supply full recordings to just anyone since there is no gain in it for them.
The first thing they asked me is what the sign means and that is what you see in the video. Then they asked me what I thought of the prosecution and I said it was an outrage and I said: "Then there is this Homo prosecutor (Gerard Spong) who the muslims would hang from the highest tree, and HE is defending islam. It is an outrage."
And that basically was the interview with the Germans. They may have asked me about JTF and I said that it is a New York based organisation that exposes islam and liberal politicians like Hillary Clinton and Barack Osama. The Germans did not ask for my name; only some Dutch reporters did.
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Did you call him a homo on network television? It's one thing to express the idiocy of a gay person supporting those who would slit his throat in a New York minute. If you call people homos in a moment like that, when you are on TV, I'm afraid you don't come off as looking that much different to many viewers from the sickos who want to see Geert hung
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Did you call him a homo on network television?
He is a nude-walking Homo and that is what I called him. Everybody knows he is a Homo. I brought it up becaus he is a Homo defending islam.
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Well that was a choice
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Great Stuff Bio!
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As long as Chaim didn't mind, I think this is WAY cool.
It is not that I was telling everyone my name is Chaim Ben Pesach and that I am the head of the JTF.
Maybe 4 reporters asked for my name at the end of an interview and then I said it was Chaim Ben Pesach to give a stronger emphasize on JTF, rather than on my 'Geert Akbar' sign which got plenty attention already.
As you can see, almost all media leaves the JTF-letters on my jacket out of it.
Only 2 Dutch papers mentions JTF and Chaim Ben Pesach, 'het Parool' and 'het Reformatorisch Dagblad'. All the rest is about my Geert Akbar sign.
Giving them the name Chaim Ben Pesach gives them something more to google and makes it seem a bit more 'personal' and interesting, since Chaim Ben Pesach is such an uncommon name in Holland.
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Well that was a choice
I think it was relevant and justified in this case. Besides homo is not a slur or is it ?
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Well that was a choice
I think it was relevant and justified in this case. Besides homo is not a slur or is it ?
Yes Zelhar is right.
For us of cause homo would be a slur. My personal oppinion is, that such people are animals. But I think they are proud of it and think their behaviour is totally natural and normal. So why they would be offended?
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Footage of the back of my jacket and sign at 4:34 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA77oj-UKGg&feature=player_embedded#
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About the tie:
It is an official 'Pim Fortuyn'-tie from his LPF (Lijst Pim Fortuyn) party when he was running for president.
Unfortunately he was assassinated by a communist because he posed such a threat to the establishment.
So it is both a political statement as well as a means to draw attention with the unusual colour combination.
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Nice job. I liked seeing your JTF jacket.
At 4:34 you can see the back of my jacket and the back of my sign. A lot of people and a lot of media have seen it, unfortunately they don't show it that much in the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA77oj-UKGg&feature=player_embedded#
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you done good buddy...