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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ithaca-37 on March 23, 2010, 11:21:05 AM

Title: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: Ithaca-37 on March 23, 2010, 11:21:05 AM
There's more than a few conservative/ Bible-believing Christian pastors who note this Tanach verse, Genesis 12:3, with God speaking to Abraham:  "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you."

AND those same pastors often note that bad things seem to happen to the United States whenever the USA crosses modern Israel.  For instance, I vaguely recall GWB forcing Israel back to negotiations with their enemies, only to have Hurricane Katrina hit in only a few days.

Now, to my point:  After the static from Biden, et al, about the apartment construction in Jerusalem last week, I wonder if God's response was to permit the passage of that awful health care takeover.

Does anybody have any genuinely prayerful thoughts about this?

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Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: Rubystars on March 23, 2010, 12:10:39 PM
I don't think it's fair that the good people of America, who are in general much less secular than even most of the people who claim to be religious in Europe, are suffering because of the bad people.
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: briann on March 23, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
We are being punished for our stupidity in giving carte blanche to a self-proclaimed Marxist. 

And its not just Health care

In just 1 year.  Obama has socialized Banking,Financial Insurance, Auto Manufacturing, and now Health Care.

We have fallen from being the model for freedom to a country now rated below Canada in terms of economic freedom.

He has created more debt in 2 years than our government had created in 20 years before.

Our children and our grandchildren are going to be suffering horribly for this.

Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 23, 2010, 12:43:34 PM

It probably is a punishment.
We were attacked by Islamafilth on 9/11 then we elect a muslim pig for president.
Why did we fight Gods will?
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: Rubystars on March 23, 2010, 12:48:29 PM
"We" didn't do it. It was the libtards, "Muslim-Americans", [censored], and La Raza folks that elected him.
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 23, 2010, 01:07:08 PM

And we allowed them. He was elected and we are getting punished.
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 23, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
Re:  Ithaca-37

Is is not merely a coincidence.  Read in Torah of how Pharoah's Egypt prospered and was saved from famine due to his appointing Joseph as his Chief Minister.  After only a short time, a new Pharoah arose who saw in the Hebrews nothing except material for slaves.  The story didn't end well for Egypt.  Ha'Shem smote them severely and led his people out to freedom.  It's no coincidence that today's modern Egyptians hold up posters proclaiming "Obama!"..."The new Pharoah for the entire world!"   
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: Rubystars on March 23, 2010, 10:50:53 PM

And we allowed them. He was elected and we are getting punished.


I think during the election people at JTF were doing everything we could to stop it. So were many other conservative people and right wing people. It just wasn't enough.
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 24, 2010, 08:20:08 AM

I don't mean we as in me and you. We as a nation.
Title: Re: Is this health care takeover a form of Divine punishment?
Post by: Rubystars on March 24, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
Nation means the people of a nation. Many of the people who live in the country called the United States don't belong here!