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Benjamin Disraeli wrote well about the importance of the racial question and why the Jews are inherently on the side of conservatism:
“The political equality of a particular race is a matter of municipal arrangement, and depends entirely on political considerations and circumstances; but the natural equality of man now in vogue, and taking the form of cosmopolitan fraternity, is a principle which, were it possible to act on it, would deteriorate the great races and destroy all the genius of the world.
What would be the consequence on the great Anglo-Saxon republic, for example, were its citizens to secede from their sound principle of reserve, and mingle with their negro and coloured populations? In the course of time they would become so deteriorated that their states would probably be reconquered and regained by the aborigines whom they have expelled, and who would then be their superiors. But though nature will never ultimately permit this theory of natural equality to be practised, the preaching of this dogma
has already caused much mischief, and may occasion much more.
The native tendency of the Jewish race, who are justly proud of their blood, is against the doctrine of the equality of man. They have also another characteristic, the faculty of acquisition. Although the European laws have endeavoured to prevent their obtaining property, they have nevertheless become remarkable for their accumulated wealth. Thus it will be seen that all the tendencies of the Jewish race are conservative. Their bias is to religion, property, and natural aristocracy: and it should be the interest of statesmen that this bias of a great race should be encouraged, and their energies and creative powers enlisted in the cause of existing society.”
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20007/20007-8.txt
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Benjamin Disraeli wrote well about the importance of the racial question and why the Jews are inherently on the side of conservatism:
“The political equality of a particular race is a matter of municipal arrangement, and depends entirely on political considerations and circumstances; but the natural equality of man now in vogue, and taking the form of cosmopolitan fraternity, is a principle which, were it possible to act on it, would deteriorate the great races and destroy all the genius of the world.
What would be the consequence on the great Anglo-Saxon republic, for example, were its citizens to secede from their sound principle of reserve, and mingle with their negro and coloured populations? In the course of time they would become so deteriorated that their states would probably be reconquered and regained by the aborigines whom they have expelled, and who would then be their superiors. But though nature will never ultimately permit this theory of natural equality to be practised, the preaching of this dogma
has already caused much mischief, and may occasion much more.
The native tendency of the Jewish race, who are justly proud of their blood, is against the doctrine of the equality of man. They have also another characteristic, the faculty of acquisition. Although the European laws have endeavoured to prevent their obtaining property, they have nevertheless become remarkable for their accumulated wealth. Thus it will be seen that all the tendencies of the Jewish race are conservative. Their bias is to religion, property, and natural aristocracy: and it should be the interest of statesmen that this bias of a great race should be encouraged, and their energies and creative powers enlisted in the cause of existing society.”
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20007/20007-8.txt
Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish. The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks. What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist. We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?
Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.
An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.
Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry.
What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
Where?
We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.
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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?
Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.
An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.
The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.
Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry.
What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
Where?
We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.
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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.
Honestly, who has trouble distinguishing a Sephardic Jew from an Arab?
Some notable Sephardic Jews:
Benjamin Disraeli -- the Prime Minister of Great Britain
Judah Benjamin -- the Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America
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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.
Honestly, who has trouble distinguishing a Sephardic Jew from an Arab?
Some notable Sephardic Jews:
Benjamin Disraeli -- the Prime Minister of Great Britain
Judah Benjamin -- the Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America
They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizhari Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizharis are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
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You know all the 12 tribes did not look alike i forgot where in the tanach it explains the differences one tribe was describe as light haired and light skinned
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They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizrachi Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizrachim are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 BC since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.
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They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizrachi Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizrachim are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 B.C.E. since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.
Blondism means nothing it occurs within the Australiod race!, i go by bone structure, their bone structure is alien to Europe. Ethinc Arabs have blondism to it occurs among Syrians and Sunni Iraqis often, but their bone structure is not Nordic,Alpine, or Med, but rather an Orintealid strain, i will show you an example of this
(http://i10.tinypic.com/4xp7otl.jpg) not the Girl in the Middle she has an Orintealid look, not European. Arabs and Mizhari Jews are genticaly identical, although because of mutal hatered between the two groups, they won't admit it.
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Large exmaple note the bone structure is different, this is Sunni Iraqi girl, her sub-race Arabid
(http://i2.tinypic.com/52lvzow.jpg)
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Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 B.C.E. since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.
It says in second Kings very clearly that Babylonians and Cuthim were settled in Samaria in place of the Israelites so they certainly cannot be relied upon to show what Jews used to look like. Babylonians, maybe. But not Jews.
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even so they don't look europeans at all but like Arabs blondism is nothing it occurs in Australiod and all Cacuasiod races. Bone structure what define race,and its alien to Europeans because their Orintealid Caucasiods, but most Samartians are dark skined, Mizarachi is the best example of how they looked like!
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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?
Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.
An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.
Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry.
What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
Where?
We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.
The Ashkenazi Jews are not from Ashkenaz, but your correct that Germanics are from Ashkenaz son of Japeith not Shem. The Jews their are called Ashkenazi Jews because they lived among Germanic peoples. Japeith is the father of the Aryan White race ie Indo-Europeans/Old Europeans. The Jewish Encyclopedia in the past has clamied that most Russian and Ashkenazi Jews to be a Turko-Finnic stock called the Khazars it written by Jews who are self-hateres. The Jewish Encyclopedia is often quoted by racists to disporve the Jewishness of people. Mizhrachi/Shepardim do show often slight blondism since their a Caucasiod race, also Arabs are known to have blondism but their not from the same Caucasiod race as Europeans, Shepardim and Mizrachi are often one people in Israel, their is no differences between the two thus Mizrachi Jews are Shepardim. If you read Spanish history the Spainards could tell the Shepardim from the general Christian population, since they had the same phenotype as the Arab invaders. The Samartians are Caucasiod but their not White, here are their pictures, many look like Arabs!
Samartians
(http://i5.tinypic.com/6f7tbmr.jpg)
(http://i2.tinypic.com/6gxjio3.jpg)
(http://i6.tinypic.com/5z3u7tt.jpg)
(http://i10.tinypic.com/4y51qi8.jpg)
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They don'nt look arab they look like Indian Jews
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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html
He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."
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They don'nt look arab they look like Indian Jews
Arabs are usually lighter skined, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasiod race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.
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Number2 in the photo looks like my pharmacy owner someone from India,the first photo has Jewish eyes,looks Jewish
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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html
He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."
Yes sometimes, and sometimes its very diffuclut to tell them apart.
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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html
He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."
Mord, I hope you realize that the Syrians, being Muslims, would automatically lie - that they would automatically deny that their "glorious leader" was fooled by Eli Cohen.
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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.
Yacov, did you remove this bit from Babylonian Jew's remarks? And if so, why?
As for the question under discussion, I'm not an expert. But if the Disraeli quote is genuine, then what does it matter where it's been posted? Dispute it on its own merits, or lack thereof.
And as for Jews being a "race" in Disraeli's eyes, it's my understanding that he lived in a day when Jews intermingled less frequently than they do now - therefore, he may have been justified in deeming them, generally speaking, a race as well as a people.
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Arabs are usually lighter skined, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasiod race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.
Original Jews are East-Mediterranids which is just a branch of the greater Mediterranean Caucasian race. An Italian person of the Mediterranean race is genetically and physically more related to a Jew than a Nordic Swede.
"Orientalid" is a Nazi anthropology term.
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Arabs are usually lighter skinned, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasoid race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.
Original Jews are which is just a branch of the greater Mediterranean Caucasian race. An Italian person of the Mediterranean race is genetically and physically more related to a Jew than a Nordic Swede.
"Orientalid" is a Nazi anthropology term.
Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
Orientalid: Iranian (Oriental)
Brunet-white color, very dark hair and eyes, abbundant pilosity; medium stature (165), slim body; very long (74) and high head with prominent occiput; long face; large and high nose with root at the level of the forehead, straight or convex spine, strongly curved nostrils (64); full lips, robust chin. (Persians of Yezd, FIELD).
Subraces: Assyroid, Libyan,Arabid
Assryoid common among Iraqis,Mizrachi Jews,Assyrians
(http://i7.tinypic.com/6gbase8.jpg)
Libyan common in North African Arabs
(http://i4.tinypic.com/4znz485.jpg)
Arabid common in Arabian peninsula still is the dominate race
(http://i8.tinypic.com/6bd7sw9.jpg)
Iraqi a variety of the Arabid race, usually taller and more with straight hair, Iraqi Arabs and Jews
(http://i9.tinypic.com/61xvfk5.jpg)
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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.
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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.
Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.
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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.
Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.
As I said most Arabs have Negroid influences, f.e. Palestinians have 13% Negroid DNA. Turks are nearly all Mongoloid influenced averaging at 7% Mongoloid admixture.
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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.
Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.
As I said most Arabs have Negroid influences, f.e. PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis have 13% Negroid DNA. Turks are nearly all Mongoloid influenced averaging at 7% Mongoloid admixture.
you belive everything you read. The Orintealid race has no Negorid influnece their dark, Mizrachi Jews have the same gentic material DNA as Arabs. Most Arabs don't have Negorid influence i showed proof of this and pictures and even Samartians are not White by European standards. Your forgetting Portugesse and Afrikanners who showed Negorid admixture on their faces. I don't agree with you about the Arabs, since they included the racialy mixed people who are sergated and are hidden minorities. They are Arab by culture only. Do you know what the professor Coon stated, the Negorid community of Arabia has been stigmitazed. Turks are not Arabs, and they are of Mongol decent. Also Arabized Berbers are around 17% and look very Nordic at times. Dark skin equals being mixed is a myth.
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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.
Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.
As I said most Arabs have Negroid influences, f.e. PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis have 13% Negroid DNA. Turks are nearly all Mongoloid influenced averaging at 7% Mongoloid admixture.
You must understand that if I went to Europe and tested the people of racialy mixed class along with Anglo-Saxons i get the same reslut. If you want to post your own theories go and post on stromfront, even they agreed the gentic tests are flawed when it comes on the Middle East and North Africa, because they have included the the hidden minorities as they are called, who have minimal Arab blood. Arabs are known not to intermix with their slaves its fact, i lived in the Arab world. Also Portugesse have the highest Negorid admixture in all Europe reaching 11% and Finns are around 10% Mongoloid, lets not forgett the lapps who are 30% Mongoloid. You attack Nordicists but using the same of their arguments that dark skin equals being mixed. Orintealids are Caucasiods who are dark, btw the Arabs are 10% or even less according to some gentic studies shown. My Gf is an Arab actually laughed at what you said lol, she said that samples from the Middle East or North Africa usually includes all Algerians for example Berbers,Arabs, and mixed people into one, thus their not accuarate. You might think she is Muslim she isn't but rather a Nohaide who wants to be come Jewish, this why i started a thread what do you think of Arab converts to Jaudism. Also your ingnored racial admixture in Europeans. Many of the Portugesse showed a Negorid strain but not the Arabs which means most Arabs don't have it, and also you ingnored the fact that Finland has the highest Mongoloid admixture in Europe, many Finns show traces of Mongol admixture and i posted their pic. Saradinans were around 12% Negroid according to some gentic studies but you will ignor it.
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you belive everything you read. The Orintealid race has no Negorid influnece their dark, Mizrachi Jews have the same gentic material DNA as Arabs. Most Arabs don't have Negorid influence i showed proof of this and pictures and even Samartians are not White by European standards. Your forgetting Portugesse and Afrikanners who showed Negorid admixture on their faces. I don't agree with you about the Arabs, since they included the racialy mixed people who are sergated and are hidden minorities. They are Arab by culture only. Do you know what the professor Coon stated, the Negorid community of Arabia has been stigmitazed. Turks are not Arabs, and they are of Mongol decent. Also Arabized Berbers are around 17% and look very Nordic at times. Dark skin equals being mixed is a myth.
You are ridiculous.
Darker Jews belong to these types:
East-Mediterranid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig8.jpg)
Armenid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig9.jpg)
"Arab" is an ethnicity, not a race, but many Arabs are Arabid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig10b.jpg)
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig10a.jpg)
A clear racial difference.
Also, an East-Mediterranid Jew is metrically more related to the a Nordic Swede than the Swede's East-Baltic countryman.
Nordid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig1a.jpg)
East-Baltid
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig5a.jpg)
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All those "non-whites" are really white. We shouldn't let Nazis dictate to us who is white and who is not white.
Carlaye or however belives that Middle Eastern samples are accuarate their not, and even people in stromfront pointed that out since they include all people for example in the Algerian sample they included Berbers,Arabs,and mixed race people all into one, and its not accurate thus the Berber sample was vastly different from the Arabic, and the Arabic different from the mixed race sample. Its like in Israel taking Shepardim and Ashkenazim and the Arab minorities all into one, we know Ashkenazis contian little of Khazar,Semitie, and Slavic, well we Shepardim contian other admixtures that more similar to Arabs, although we don't like to admit but thats the truth and truth hurts, and even Ethiopian Jews into one sample is an accurate.
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you belive everything you read. The Orintealid race has no Negorid influnece their dark, Mizrachi Jews have the same gentic material DNA as Arabs. Most Arabs don't have Negorid influence i showed proof of this and pictures and even Samartians are not White by European standards. Your forgetting Portugesse and Afrikanners who showed Negorid admixture on their faces. I don't agree with you about the Arabs, since they included the racialy mixed people who are sergated and are hidden minorities. They are Arab by culture only. Do you know what the professor Coon stated, the Negorid community of Arabia has been stigmitazed. Turks are not Arabs, and they are of Mongol decent. Also Arabized Berbers are around 17% and look very Nordic at times. Dark skin equals being mixed is a myth.
You are ridiculous.
Darker Jews belong to these types:
East-Mediterranid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig8.jpg)
Armenid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig9.jpg)
"Arab" is an ethnicity, not a race, but many Arabs are Arabid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig10b.jpg)
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig10a.jpg)
A clear racial difference.
Also, an East-Mediterranid Jew is metrically more related to the a Nordic Swede than the Swede's East-Baltic countryman.
Nordid:
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig1a.jpg)
East-Baltid
(http://www.snpa.nordish.net/bilder/lundraces-fig5a.jpg)
I pointed the fact that Orintealids are not the same as East Meds. However I agree with you a large amounts of Shepardic Jews are East Meds who are different from Arabids and its true. Mizrachi Jews are Orintealids though especially the Yemenites one, i heard their converts. Your correct on this one though. Arabids/Orintealids are different this one i agree with totaly.
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I pointed the fact that Orintealids are not the same as East Meds. However I agree with you a large amounts of Shepardic Jews are East Meds who are different from Arabids and its true. Mizrachi Jews are Orintealids though especially the Yemenites one, i heard their converts. Your correct on this one though. Arabids/Orintealids are different this one i agree with totaly.
I still don't understand how you claim that Oriental Jews are non-Whites and look like Arabs.
A textbook Orientalid is clearly White:
(http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/rastyper-24.jpg)
"A Jewish lady of uncommonly pure and fine Oriental type" by B. Lundman
http://carnby.altervista.org/rastyper/rastyper-04.htm
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I pointed the fact that Orintealids are not the same as East Meds. However I agree with you a large amounts of Shepardic Jews are East Meds who are different from Arabids and its true. Mizrachi Jews are Orintealids though especially the Yemenites one, i heard their converts. Your correct on this one though. Arabids/Orintealids are different this one i agree with totaly.
I still don't understand how you claim that Oriental Jews are non-Whites and look like Arabs.
A textbook Orientalid is clearly White:
(http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/rastyper-24.jpg)
"A Jewish lady of uncommonly pure and fine Oriental type" by B. Lundman
http://carnby.altervista.org/rastyper/rastyper-04.htm
Within the Orinteal their is sub-races such as the Arabid, but Orintealids are dark skined, is she Mizrachi or Shepardi. Like I said Orintealids do share some physical features with East-Meds but their different as you pointed out. This woman is dark skined Yemenite Jew of the Orintealid type called Assryoid (http://i3.tinypic.com/4kvhv88.jpg) notice her dark skin. Were the original Jews of the Med race yes they were East-Meds and Armeniods with no Orintealid admixture. The problem is some Mizrachi Jews like me look like Arabs, might be reslut of converts, thus why iam sensitve to the topic, because it makes look like we are not really Jewish. Note Yemenite Jews are converts and Israelities mixed.
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I hope you understand iam not being a rude or anything, but what i said is quite true about the Middle Eastern/North African samples, and i provided the reason why iam sensative to it.
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I pointed the fact that Orintealids are not the same as East Meds. However I agree with you a large amounts of Shepardic Jews are East Meds who are different from Arabids and its true. Mizrachi Jews are Orintealids though especially the Yemenites one, i heard their converts. Your correct on this one though. Arabids/Orintealids are different this one i agree with totaly.
I still don't understand how you claim that Oriental Jews are non-Whites and look like Arabs.
A textbook Orientalid is clearly White:
(http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/rastyper-24.jpg)
"A Jewish lady of uncommonly pure and fine Oriental type" by B. Lundman
http://carnby.altervista.org/rastyper/rastyper-04.htm
Within the Orinteal their is sub-races such as the Arabid, but Orientalids are dark skined, is she Mizrachi or Shepardi.
Likely Ashkenazi, maybe Sephardic.
Like I said Orintealids do share some physical features with East-Meds but their different as you pointed out. This woman is dark skined Yemenite Jew of the Orintealid type called Assryoid (http://i3.tinypic.com/4kvhv88.jpg) notice her dark skin. Were the original Jews of the Med race yes they were East-Meds and Armeniods with no Orintealid admixture. The problem is some Mizrachi Jews like me look like Arabs, might be reslut of converts, thus why iam sensitve to the topic, because it makes look like we are not really Jewish. Note Yemenite Jews are converts and Israelities mixed.
Are you descended from the Iberian Jews who were expelled in 1492 (they are Sephardic) or some other Jews? I think the number of Jews who are not of Iberian or Ashkenazi descent is small. Furthermore, at least the Persian Jews tend to be White-looking.
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I pointed the fact that Orintealids are not the same as East Meds. However I agree with you a large amounts of Shepardic Jews are East Meds who are different from Arabids and its true. Mizrachi Jews are Orintealids though especially the Yemenites one, i heard their converts. Your correct on this one though. Arabids/Orintealids are different this one i agree with totaly.
I still don't understand how you claim that Oriental Jews are non-Whites and look like Arabs.
A textbook Orientalid is clearly White:
(http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/rastyper-24.jpg)
"A Jewish lady of uncommonly pure and fine Oriental type" by B. Lundman
http://carnby.altervista.org/rastyper/rastyper-04.htm
Within the Orinteal their is sub-races such as the Arabid, but Orientalids are dark skined, is she Mizrachi or Shepardi.
Likely Ashkenazi, maybe Sephardic.
Like I said Orintealids do share some physical features with East-Meds but their different as you pointed out. This woman is dark skined Yemenite Jew of the Orintealid type called Assryoid (http://i3.tinypic.com/4kvhv88.jpg) notice her dark skin. Were the original Jews of the Med race yes they were East-Meds and Armeniods with no Orintealid admixture. The problem is some Mizrachi Jews like me look like Arabs, might be reslut of converts, thus why iam sensitve to the topic, because it makes look like we are not really Jewish. Note Yemenite Jews are converts and Israelities mixed.
Are you descended from the Iberian Jews who were expelled in 1492 (they are Sephardic) or some other Jews? I think the number of Jews who are not of Iberian or Ashkenazi descent is small. Furthermore, at least the Persian Jews tend to be White-looking.
Iam part Iraqi Jew part Libyan Jew, both Iraqi and Libyan Jews are often brown skined if they come from the Arab world. Yes we are minority. Persian Jews are often Armeniod so are the Syrians.
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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.
Honestly, who has trouble distinguishing a Sephardic Jew from an Arab?
Some notable Sephardic Jews:
Benjamin Disraeli -- the Prime Minister of Great Britain
Judah Benjamin -- the Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America
They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizrachi Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizrachim are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
BabylonianJew, you are so full of it. Plenty of Arabs converted to Judaism in the Pre-Islamic period and plenty of Jewish women were raped by Arabs in the Pre and Post Islamic periods. The same thing happened in Europe to us Ashkenazim. So don't get all high and mighty as if there was no mixed blood in the Edot HaMizrach. It's simply not true.
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Why does it matter anyway?
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