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Title: Shalom
Post by: Judith on May 28, 2010, 09:54:43 AM
Yom Tov,

I'm Tami from Europe. I'm living in Germany and studying law. I'm on my way to becoming jewish.
A friend from the United States has shown me this Internet-Site.
I regard this information as really interesting.
Unfortunately most people do not want to hear this news.
They have often the belief that there would be no danger by terrorism. They do not want to see what is happening.

A lot of people are starting to hide their religion, but I think it is important that we are standing up for our religions.  We must show the muslims that we are not afraid of them.  In my country it is illegal to say anything against muslims, but they are allowed to do whatever they want to do here.

It would be nice to start a discussion about this topic.

Sincerely,

Tami  :israel:
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 11:02:38 AM
Welcome to JTF. 
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Noos on May 28, 2010, 01:27:40 PM

My vote and my welcome.
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Ulli on May 28, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
Willkommen auf unserem Forum. Ich hoffe es gefällt Dir hier.  :)
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on May 28, 2010, 03:16:12 PM
Welcome to the forum!!!  Whats the deal with the poll?
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: mord on May 29, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Welcome!!
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Judith on May 30, 2010, 11:22:45 AM
Shavua Tov ! :dance:

Toda raba for all the welcome-wishes ^-^




Welcome to the forum!!!  Whats the deal with the poll?

I didn't mean illegal in relation to the law-system. Here is a parlamentary democracy, so no one can make a law that forbids to say something against muslims. The fundamental rights are protecting us from such things. Here is still the right of the free speech. But in daily life the free speech has become more and more restricted.
I meant with "it is illegal to say anything against muslims", that peoples who are telling facts about fundamentalism, islam... that they are getting problems here.
But they are not getting the problems from the government. The problems are becoming realized by muslims who are starting attacking or threaten peoples who are saying anything against them.
It is very often not possible to start an objective discussion about this theme here.
Not only muslims are reacting aggressive about criticals, also a lot of peoples who do not want to hear about this theme.



Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Ben m on May 30, 2010, 11:37:09 AM
Shavua Tov ! :dance:

Toda raba for all the welcome-wishes ^-^




Welcome to the forum!!!  Whats the deal with the poll?

I didn't mean illegal in relation to the law-system. Here is a parlamentary democracy, so no one can make a law that forbids to say something against muslims. The fundamental rights are protecting us from such things. Here is still the right of the free speech. But in daily life the free speech has become more and more restricted.
I meant with "it is illegal to say anything against muslims", that peoples who are telling facts about fundamentalism, islam... that they are getting problems here.
But they are not getting the problems from the government. The problems are becoming realized by muslims who are starting attacking or threaten peoples who are saying anything against them.
It is very often not possible to start an objective discussion about this theme here.
Not only muslims are reacting aggressive about criticals, also a lot of peoples who do not want to hear about this theme.




welcome,i think ck meant the poll that you post (the one with the options of yom tov,hello and how are you).
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Judith on May 30, 2010, 12:10:09 PM

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welcome,i think ck meant the poll that you post (the one with the options of yom tov,hello and how are you).
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Ohh, good to know :laugh:
The poll from the post was a little mistake ???
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Zelhar on May 30, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Ben m on May 30, 2010, 12:32:23 PM

welcome,i think ck meant the poll that you post (the one with the options of yom tov,hello and how are you).
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Ohh, good to know :laugh:
The poll from the post was a little mistake ???
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oh
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Noos on May 30, 2010, 01:09:32 PM

...... ......
The problems are becoming realized by muslims who are starting attacking or threaten peoples who are saying anything against them.
It is very often not possible to start an objective discussion about this theme here.
Not only muslims are reacting aggressive about criticals, also a lot of peoples who do not want to hear about this theme.


This is Germany side story.  Am I right ?  
And maybe at some specific area, or town, or something.
Things in Greece are something else.  I am a master of Greek speech, and I need 40 minutes at my quick language manner, to describe it !

The matter is so strange.

What laws do you have for pedophilia and how propriety do you really practise ?
We for example, are, as always swank and no work.
Only some Internet child porno are comply as propaganda (of hunting) and nothing else.
Americans for example, depends the state, are not allow a simple kiss to cheek, between two 6 years old children.  
But they are probably "not half" to the internet children pornography.  I guess they are tight and so much.
One way or another, there is truth or average, for this matter.  
Aisha and 9 year old girls, should be a matter of paper statement to all Islam immigrants.
Do you ask em to sign a paper for foredoom pedophilia ?
Or do you are -somehow- feeling as being blackmailed from something bigger ?  



Other example
We have 2 or 3 million Islam immigrants and that is 20%.
If Greeks choose to be lost - hei there are Jews here.  An aged drummer friend of mine, has been hit and they stole his telephone.
55 years old Jews are ... who knows how ...
I am trying to find him again to learn how is the situation at that area.

Other example
All the outlaw immigrant Muslims, should had give to Greece (1st entrance gate) their finger mark, should give 3 angle photos and much more.
And first of all should had sign a paper that no other Muslim nation or nation community helped them !  
But Greeks are lost for the rest of their future, and they are out of trust.  Me too.

Final example
I know that in Germany 1990 Muslims were taking money to lie, and skinheads were burn the hotels ...  
Let's get to the point
Italy has more severe status than Germany, cause is near the "entrance gate".  Right ?    
But Greece has the most free status, as an agent, as a Muslim sucker, as something can not be explained.
All the simple sense people know that for every loose, a Greek, has an explanation of civilly, of  decency, of inverse the truth, etc
What is strange for you, at your place ?  

Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Irish Zionist on June 01, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
Welcome  :)
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on June 02, 2010, 01:14:57 PM
welcome to JTF
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: freedomannie on June 02, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
Welcome to JTF Tammi...i too am coming home to Judaism... :)
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Judith on June 06, 2010, 01:36:39 PM
Welcome to JTF Tammi...i too am coming home to Judaism... :)


Shavua Tov! Thank you for your welcome!
So you are too coming home to Judaism? Thats great!
Will you convert to reform or orthodox?

Erev tov
Title: Re: Shalom
Post by: Judith on June 06, 2010, 02:51:13 PM

...... ......
The problems are becoming realized by muslims who are starting attacking or threaten peoples who are saying anything against them.
It is very often not possible to start an objective discussion about this theme here.
Not only muslims are reacting aggressive about criticals, also a lot of peoples who do not want to hear about this theme.


This is Germany side story.  Am I right ?  
And maybe at some specific area, or town, or something.
Things in Greece are something else.  I am a master of Greek speech, and I need 40 minutes at my quick language manner, to describe it !

The matter is so strange.

What laws do you have for pedophilia and how propriety do you really practise ?
We for example, are, as always swank and no work.
Only some Internet child porno are comply as propaganda (of hunting) and nothing else.
Americans for example, depends the state, are not allow a simple kiss to cheek, between two 6 years old children.  
But they are probably "not half" to the internet children pornography.  I guess they are tight and so much.
One way or another, there is truth or average, for this matter.  
Aisha and 9 year old girls, should be a matter of paper statement to all Islam immigrants.
Do you ask em to sign a paper for foredoom pedophilia ?
Or do you are -somehow- feeling as being blackmailed from something bigger ?  



Other example
We have 2 or 3 million Islam immigrants and that is 20%.
If Greeks choose to be lost - hei there are Jews here.  An aged drummer friend of mine, has been hit and they stole his telephone.
55 years old Jews are ... who knows how ...
I am trying to find him again to learn how is the situation at that area.

Other example
All the outlaw immigrant Muslims, should had give to Greece (1st entrance gate) their finger mark, should give 3 angle photos and much more.
And first of all should had sign a paper that no other Muslim nation or nation community helped them !  
But Greeks are lost for the rest of their future, and they are out of trust.  Me too.

Final example
I know that in Germany 1990 Muslims were taking money to lie, and skinheads were burn the hotels ...  
Let's get to the point
Italy has more severe status than Germany, cause is near the "entrance gate".  Right ?    
But Greece has the most free status, as an agent, as a Muslim sucker, as something can not be explained.
All the simple sense people know that for every loose, a Greek, has an explanation of civilly, of  decency, of inverse the truth, etc
What is strange for you, at your place ?  


Shavua Tov,

Shavua Tov,

I think your written English is ok but I hope that I understand your context in the right way.
How are the things in Greece now?

Well, what I have written is happening in Germany but also in a lot of other countries.
It does not only refers to a special area or town.
I’m not exaggerating by discussing about Fundamentalism and it’s impacts to society.
Here is existing an diabolical network between muslims and nazis but no one here is discussing about this.
Peoples are talking about democracy but how can exist a democracy completely free if fundamentalists terrorize the westernized countries?

Laws against pedophilia are existing here and it is getting punished very strong.
Here is a democratic law system that allows living in freedom and protecting from crime.
Do you mean with your sentence “We for example, are, as always swank and no work.”
that the law system in greece does not work in case of laws against pedophilia?
Here, the internet is controlled by police. Pedophilia in the internet becomes punished by law very strong. If someone in germany is watching such an internet site, then the police gets a sign and then they are reacting against them.
But in this country exists a kind of mafia. They are kidnapping children and young peoples and abusing them. They do human trafficking. They are working international, it is a big danger in a lot of countries.


20% is a big part. The situation in Greece, I can imagine is worse than here.
Nowadays it is more important than ever before that whole Europe holds together And never gives up hope!

Not only the entrance gate is the reason for the stronger immigration rate. If you regard for example Sweden, muslims have their own city there (Malmö) where no non-muslim is safety. In that town are living fanatic crazy evil nazi-muslims who do not allow Jewish peoples to walk on the sidewalk. The muslims have the only power there and they are suppressing and terrorize all non-muslims.

If you regard where muslims start to conquer cities, areas and so on, then you can see that they have the strategy to conquer Europe and much more places.
I can imagine that what is happening with Greece now, will also happen to other countries in the next time.

I’m not sure how we can definitely protect us from the danger of Fundamentalism.
But generally the history gives us a warning sign that we must fight against unjustice and that we must resist against suppression.