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Title: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Maimonides on May 31, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
http://loganswarning.com/2010/05/31/turkey-next-time-israel-will-have-to-deal-with-our-navy/ (http://loganswarning.com/2010/05/31/turkey-next-time-israel-will-have-to-deal-with-our-navy/)

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As predicted Turkey has taken a turn for the worst, and is no true ally of non-Islamic countries. The relationship between Turkey and Israel has been deteriorating, with Turkey recently telling Israel they have to give up their nukes. Now we see how they will stand with their Muslim brothers, no matter what the facts are. Non-Islamic countries need to start banding together, and face the harsh reality of the impending showdown with the Islamic world. A good start would be if Sweden stopped funding Turkey to the tune of 8.5 million euros a year.  Since Muslims think that Islam is so great, let them fend for themselves.

    Turkey threatens action; Israel on alert

    New Delhi: Turkey has threatened Israel with unprecedented action after Israeli forces attacked an aid vessel, killing 10 peace activists headed to Gaza.

    Israel said 10 people died while those on the ship said at least 15 were killed.

    A shocked world has responded with outrage. Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel and warned of unprecedented and incalculable reprisals.

    Two Turkish activists were reported to be among those killed in the flotilla. Ankara warned that further supply vessels will be sent to Gaza, escorted by the Turkish Navy, a development with unpredictable consequences.

    Israel has sounded an alert throughout the country fearing rocket attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    The Arab League has called an urgent meeting on Tuesday to decide on a common response. Egypt is under pressure to end the blockade of Gaza while Greece has cancelled a military exercise with Israel.

    The world is waiting for the response from Washington, how will President Obama react to the provocation from America’s closest ally.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on May 31, 2010, 09:14:02 PM
Anybody here needs further proof Turkey should be Holocausted and destroyed just like Saudi Arabia ???
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: muman613 on May 31, 2010, 09:31:10 PM
Turkey will be basted and wasted...

Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: New Yorker on May 31, 2010, 11:41:52 PM

Israel should forget about sending the commandos on board, and go old-school Navy, and sink the bastards.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ulli on June 01, 2010, 12:25:27 AM
Turks are not generally bad people. But the AKP made the whole land nuts, like in Nazi Germany. Now we see the result.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 01, 2010, 12:58:16 AM
Respond to violence with bigger violence.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: syyuge on June 01, 2010, 01:17:06 AM
Turkey is gog and destined to be doomed...
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on June 01, 2010, 01:57:55 AM
The current Turkish government is so arrogant. They would deserve a good lesson. Please, make our day, attack Israel and see what you get.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 01, 2010, 06:23:02 AM
Har har. To do that they have to leave the NATO. Doing so will wipe out their 10% chances to join the EU. So it is just a lot of blah blah and hot air about nothing. A bunch of show-off. They should care more about developing thir filthy 3rd World country than caring about Fakestinians and Turkish rebels that work for terror organization Hamas in order to intimidate Israel. Let's give Erdogan a shot in the neck and the problem is solvd for some time.
In my city we had Turkish mob and Fakis demonstrating last evening.They threw stones, bottles and other things at people who passed by and called them infidels. I wanted to see it on TV.... NOTHING. Local press.... NOTHING. I think that as long as there is no one being killed, leftist media is not interested in reporting that.  >:(
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 01, 2010, 07:43:42 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: TruthSpreader on June 01, 2010, 08:05:07 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?

Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 01, 2010, 09:13:55 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 01, 2010, 10:58:42 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

That is true. They should live in the region of Tajikistan rather than in Europe and the Middle East. Turks are so proud of themselves. But they were as stupid to adopt the name of "turkur" given to them by surrounding people. "turkur" means thief, robber. It was given to them because they used to rob caravans who were doing trade via the Silk Road. They adopted that name for themselves and until today they continue to use it.  :laugh: And they still have the same mentality.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 01, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

That is true. They should live in the region of Tajikistan rather than in Europe and the Middle East. Turks are so proud of themselves. But they were as stupid to adopt the name of "turkur" given to them by surrounding people. "turkur" means thief, robber. It was given to them because they used to rob caravans who were doing trade via the Silk Road. They adopted that name for themselves and until today they continue to use it.  :laugh: And they still have the same mentality.
well.nobody accused them of being sane and mentally stable!
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 01, 2010, 11:16:20 AM
Does this mean I have to quit smoking my Meerschaum pipe?    >:(    :'(
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 01, 2010, 11:20:45 AM
Does this mean I have to quit smoking my Meerschaum pipe?    >:(    :'(
no.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Rightist2 on June 01, 2010, 02:03:54 PM
The stupid Turks cant even handle their Kurdish problem. If the Turks cant behave and stop throwing hissyfits them Israel should issue a private warning that Half of Turkey will become Kurdistan!

P.S Kudos for Foxnews for giving the true side of this story. We all saw the savage thugs on that boat attacking the Israeli soldiers with weapons.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on June 01, 2010, 02:42:50 PM
Turkey is having problems even with the Argentine Leftist regime. They wanted to build a monument to Ataturk in Buenos Aires which is forbidden here because it would be justifying the Armenian Genocide. The Buenos Aires mayor forbade it and Turkey presented a diplomatic protest. That's outrageus! Turkey has no right to interfere with the city norms. Buenos Aires is not Turkey.
And Israel should wait until ships are less than 12 miles from the coast (thus not international waters) and sink the ships if they don't obey the orders to go back, after a warning. Boarding ships will achieve nothing. It only leads to more wounded soldiers.
Anyway, I thinking that comabtting Muslim terrorism by just besieging Gazah is like trying to stop a flood by taking the water with a spoon. If Israel and the world want to be saved, they should point directly to al-Aqsa (and Mecca if necessary).
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 01, 2010, 02:52:33 PM
Turkey is having problems even with the Argentine Leftist regime. They wanted to build a monument to Ataturk in Buenos Aires which is forbidden here because it would be justifying the Armenian Genocide. The Buenos Aires mayor forbade it and Turkey presented a diplomatic protest. That's outrageus! Turkey has no right to interfere with the city norms. Buenos Aires is not Turkey.
And Israel should wait until ships are less than 12 miles from the coast (thus not international waters) and sink the ships if they don't obey the orders to go back, after a warning. Boarding ships will achieve nothing. It only leads to more wounded soldiers.
Anyway, I thinking that comabtting Muslim terrorism by just besieging Gazah is like trying to stop a flood by taking the water with a spoon. If Israel and the world want to be saved, they should point directly to al-Aqsa (and Mecca if necessary).

I have seen it in the news. They called Erdogan as a little child in a huff. But he actually is pi**ed off because South America is not as filled up with Turks like Europe is, thus not susceptible.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ulli on June 01, 2010, 03:06:35 PM
Turkey is having problems even with the Argentine Leftist regime. They wanted to build a monument to Ataturk in Buenos Aires which is forbidden here because it would be justifying the Armenian Genocide. The Buenos Aires mayor forbade it and Turkey presented a diplomatic protest. That's outrageus! Turkey has no right to interfere with the city norms. Buenos Aires is not Turkey.
And Israel should wait until ships are less than 12 miles from the coast (thus not international waters) and sink the ships if they don't obey the orders to go back, after a warning. Boarding ships will achieve nothing. It only leads to more wounded soldiers.
Anyway, I thinking that comabtting Muslim terrorism by just besieging Gazah is like trying to stop a flood by taking the water with a spoon. If Israel and the world want to be saved, they should point directly to al-Aqsa (and Mecca if necessary).

This story is one of the most crazy I ever heard.

Islamist AKP wants to build a monument for Atatürk?

He was against people like AKP Erdogan. He wanted a better future for Turkey and he even helped Jews who fled from Germany. The AKP wishes Jews dead as well they would murder Kemal Pasha if he would live today.

The second point is, that Atatürk was not involved in the Armenian genocide. He was a Turkish nationalist for shure, but no insane quranimal who would go against the infidels.

Turkish AKP and Agentinian bolschewiks -  The "diologue" of them is hilarious.  :::D
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 01, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
Turkey is having problems even with the Argentine Leftist regime. They wanted to build a monument to Ataturk in Buenos Aires which is forbidden here because it would be justifying the Armenian Genocide. The Buenos Aires mayor forbade it and Turkey presented a diplomatic protest. That's outrageus! Turkey has no right to interfere with the city norms. Buenos Aires is not Turkey.
And Israel should wait until ships are less than 12 miles from the coast (thus not international waters) and sink the ships if they don't obey the orders to go back, after a warning. Boarding ships will achieve nothing. It only leads to more wounded soldiers.
Anyway, I thinking that comabtting Muslim terrorism by just besieging Gazah is like trying to stop a flood by taking the water with a spoon. If Israel and the world want to be saved, they should point directly to al-Aqsa (and Mecca if necessary).

This story is one of the most crazy I ever heard.

Islamist AKP wants to build a monument for Atatürk?

He was against people like AKP Erdogan. He wanted a better future for Turkey and he even helped Jews who fled from Germany. The AKP wishes Jews dead as well they would murder Kemal Pasha if he would live today.

The second point is, that Atatürk was not involved in the Armenian genocide. He was a Turkish nationalist for shure, but no insane quranimal who would go against the infidels.

Turkish AKP and Agentinian bolschewiks -  The "diologue" of them is hilarious.  :::D

No one said Atatürk was RESPONSIBLE, but he denied the Armenian genocide. And Erdogfan didn't get offended by the fact the monument didn't get built, rather than the Armenian genocide being involved in the topic. He also accused the huge Armenian diaspora of Latin America being behind it and making anti-Turkish propaganda (actually the only propagandists are Erdogan and his party).
So he sees the world in the simple eyes of a child: Argentina refuses a monument for a Turk - reason is Armenian genocide - Argentina is an enemy that is owned by the Armenian lobby.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ulli on June 01, 2010, 03:27:52 PM
Hyades, Atatürk was a historic figure. Every Turk should be praying three times the day that he lead Turkey for years. All what the Turks have today is the fruit of his gardening.

But very sadly Turkey is going down now because of the AKP freaks.

In a few years the Turkish economy will be destroyed, Turkey will be cut off from any civilization and the only admires of it will be quranimals and Nazis.

I have to admit, that I have nothing against Turks in general, but their current way will lead them to death in this life as well as in the next. The AKP is one of the worst political parties ever - only comparable with the NSDAP, Hamas, Hisbollah etc.

Turks have to see the crazyness, that they are following. Otherwise they will be destroyed eternally.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 01, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
Hyades, Atatürk was a historic figure. Every Turk should be praying three times the day that he lead Turkey for years. All what the Turks have today is the fruit of his gardening.

But very sadly Turkey is going down now because of the AKP freaks.

In a few years the Turkish economy will be destroyed, Turkey will be cut off from any civilization and the only admires of it will be quranimals and Nazis.

I have to admit, that I have nothing against Turks in general, but their current way will lead them to death in this life as well as in the next. The AKP is one of the worst political parties ever - only comparable with the NSDAP, Hamas, Hisbollah etc.

Turks have to see the crazyness, that they are following. Otherwise they will be destroyed eternally.

I personally see most Turks as illiterate, poorly skilled, uneducated, gross and stupid. But even though I would not replace our 2 million Turks with 2 million Arabs. Since Arabs are worse. They are more fanatic and they tend to terrorism - one thing that is less present in Turkish communities.
Also I think that many, if not most Iranians are good people. If the Arabs hadn't brought filthy Islam to Iran, it would be such a lovely country, prosperous and advanced.
If Erdogans seed will flourish, then Turkey will become worse than Iran, since they do not even have oil to sustain their economy.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ulli on June 01, 2010, 03:53:00 PM
Yes, Muslim Arabs have never seen another way. They are imo lost. Iranian and Turks have seen.

Let us pray for them, that God will sent them common sense. :)
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 01, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: White Israelite on June 01, 2010, 05:31:50 PM
I don't consider all Turks bad people, theres a restaurant I go to here in town and it is run by two people that are Turkish and Greek background and they definitely aren't Muslim, they are pro military and know I am Jewish and have nothing but positive things to say about Israel. They certainly don't look "Mongol", they look like the surrounding people in Syria and the Mediterranean.

You have to realize Turkey is a heavily mixed country which was carved out of existing empires like Anatolia and the Hittite empire. Ethnic groups in Turkey include  Abkhazians, Adjarians, Albanians, Arabs, Assyrians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Hamshenis, Kurds, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas and the three officially recognized minorities (per the Treaty of Lausanne), i.e. the Armenians, Greeks and Jews.

Much of the population has been Turkishized, there are a lot of Greeks that left Turkey (about 1.5 million) and 500,000 turks were transferred to Turkey from Greece. It is true though in the eastern part of the country, a lot of Turks resemble central Asians like those from Tajikistan because of the Mongol invasions.

Turkey is still a middle eastern country though.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: syyuge on June 01, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
What ever may be Turkey, but if it acts against Jewish then it should be banished to Gulag Archipelago.

BTW, Turks are cross breed of Hittites and Mongols and they are sworn enemies of Kurds.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on June 01, 2010, 10:35:54 PM
We should destroy Turkey on its "citizens" and put a sign in the ruins of the Hagia Sophia in Hebrew saying: "Once there were Turks living here... until they messed with us".

We shall not forget the crimes of the Ottoman Nazi Empire and modern Turkey against the Jewish people.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 01, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
The word "Turk" means "barbarian" in Osmanlica [Turkish language of the Ottoman Empire] and in many European languages it means the same thing.  Stupid goyim.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 02, 2010, 06:10:05 AM
This new Islamist Party which has taken over in Turkey calls for the re-establishment of the former Ottoman Empire under Sharia Law.

This is the reason we are suddenly seeing Turkey joining the Axis with Iran and Syria.

All of Israel's former allies among the Turks, which were the educated and secular classes, including the military leadership, have been arrested and imprisoned without charges by this new piece of drek Prime Minister.

Since Ataturk, it was the secularists who were able to suppress the lower class Turkish masses who've always been filthy, ignorant, insane and Islamist.

As odd as it may seem, the Saudis are currently allied with Israel 'under the table' against the Iran Axis, because Iran together with Turkey and Syria are calling for the overthrow of the House of Saud.

Historically, Turks, Persians, and Arabs have throughout history been each others' deadliest enemies.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 02, 2010, 06:27:08 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
Jews are not khazars read up on the  DNA tests of Jews
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 02, 2010, 06:40:33 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
Jews are not khazars read up on the  DNA tests of Jews

You must not have been around much lately, mord.

I know that (that Jews are not khazars).   But ben here was promoting this nonsense as a belief of his, which he was apparently taught by "white nationalists."   He even claimed that all sephardim (and ashkenazim and any Jews) are khazars and that the Jewish people died out for about 600 years between the bar kochva revolt and the khazar king's conversion.    Ridiculous!    The overwhelming evidence against that stupidity can be heaped up onto a mountain-sized pile.   I was merely pointing out yet another inconsistency with his wacky view.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 02, 2010, 06:44:24 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
Jews are not khazars read up on the  DNA tests of Jews

You must not have been around much lately, mord.

I know that (that Jews are not khazars).   But ben here was promoting this nonsense as a belief of his, which he was apparently taught by "white nationalists."   He even claimed that all sephardim (and ashkenazim and any Jews) are khazars and that the Jewish people died out for about 600 years between the bar kochva revolt and the khazar king's conversion.    Ridiculous!    The overwhelming evidence against that stupidity can be heaped up onto a mountain-sized pile.   I was merely pointing out yet another inconsistency with his wacky view.
Ben needs to study reports of tests from universitys the world over.Here's a simple article for him on the subject from N.Y. Nazi Times   

http://www.humanitas-international.org/perezites/news/jewish-dna-nytimes.htm
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 02, 2010, 07:58:21 AM
I am scared. Honestly concerned and afraid of the outbreak of anti-semitism. I hide my star of David under my shirt and or I do not even use it. The Turks are really nasty at the moment. If it goes on like that, I will leave Germany. I do not want to be killed by some immigrated bunch of parasite islamonazi scum!
I cannot explain it, but has anyone of you ever had such a feeling of menace without even having an evidence? Well, I have such a feeling now. I think my radars are right now very sensitive to terrorism and violence!  :'(
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 02, 2010, 08:02:57 AM
I am scared. Honestly concerned and afraid of the outbreak of anti-semitism. I hide my star of David under my shirt and or I do not even use it. The Turks are really nasty at the moment. If it goes on like that, I will leave Germany. I do not want to be killed by some immigrated bunch of parasite islamonazi scum!
I cannot explain it, but has anyone of you ever had such a feeling of menace without even having an evidence? Well, I have such a feeling now. I think my radars are right now very sensitive to terrorism and violence!  :'(
What the hell did this vermin take over Germany from real Germans
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: HiWarp on June 02, 2010, 08:12:53 AM
We should destroy Turkey on its "citizens" and put a sign in the ruins of the Hagia Sophia in Hebrew saying: "Once there were Turks living here... until they messed with us".

We shall not forget the crimes of the Ottoman Nazi Empire and modern Turkey against the Jewish people.

Agia Sophia is an Orthodox Christian church in a city that was invaded and taken over by the Ottomans. It is not a muslim mosque. In fact, if the Greeks had been fully supported by the Brits, the French, and the Italians after WWI not only would Istanbul be the Greek city of Constantinople today but much of present day Turkey wouldn't exist either. If you truly want to destroy Turkey, I suggest you post your sign in Ankara.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 02, 2010, 08:17:19 AM
We should destroy Turkey on its "citizens" and put a sign in the ruins of the Hagia Sophia in Hebrew saying: "Once there were Turks living here... until they messed with us".

We shall not forget the crimes of the Ottoman Nazi Empire and modern Turkey against the Jewish people.

Agia Sophia is an Orthodox Christian church in a city that was invaded and taken over by the Ottomans. It is not a muslim mosque. In fact, if the Greeks had been fully supported by the Brits, the French, and the Italians after WWI not only would Istanbul be the Greek city of Constantinople today but much of present day Turkey wouldn't exist either. If you truly want to destroy Turkey, I suggest you post your sign in Ankara.
It wasn't the first time the Brits helped the turks against Greece
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 02, 2010, 08:50:46 AM
I am scared. Honestly concerned and afraid of the outbreak of anti-semitism. I hide my star of David under my shirt and or I do not even use it. The Turks are really nasty at the moment. If it goes on like that, I will leave Germany. I do not want to be killed by some immigrated bunch of parasite islamonazi scum!
I cannot explain it, but has anyone of you ever had such a feeling of menace without even having an evidence? Well, I have such a feeling now. I think my radars are right now very sensitive to terrorism and violence!  :'(
What the hell did this vermin take over Germany from real Germans

Most Germans are cowards. They do only open their mouths against a 5 year old child that paints on walls. But if it comes about real courage, they hide and pretend to not have seen anything!
The same goes for any kind of violence.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: mord on June 02, 2010, 09:02:15 AM
I am scared. Honestly concerned and afraid of the outbreak of anti-semitism. I hide my star of David under my shirt and or I do not even use it. The Turks are really nasty at the moment. If it goes on like that, I will leave Germany. I do not want to be killed by some immigrated bunch of parasite islamonazi scum!
I cannot explain it, but has anyone of you ever had such a feeling of menace without even having an evidence? Well, I have such a feeling now. I think my radars are right now very sensitive to terrorism and violence!  :'(
What the hell did this vermin take over Germany from real Germans
well they better wake up if they want to keep their country

Most Germans are cowards. They do only open their mouths against a 5 year old child that paints on walls. But if it comes about real courage, they hide and pretend to not have seen anything!
The same goes for any kind of violence.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Debbie Shafer on June 02, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
We are looking at absolute aggression from Islam! Bad sign for the world and Israel. 
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 02, 2010, 10:34:12 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 02, 2010, 10:36:46 AM
We should destroy Turkey on its "citizens" and put a sign in the ruins of the Hagia Sophia in Hebrew saying: "Once there were Turks living here... until they messed with us".

We shall not forget the crimes of the Ottoman Nazi Empire and modern Turkey against the Jewish people.
ron.you forget that hagia sophia isn't a turkish but a byzantine monument.we need to put your sign above the ruin of the blue mosque.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Dr. Dan on June 02, 2010, 10:38:12 AM
Comes to show that JTF and Chaim were right from the beginning about Turkey.  Turkey is no friend of Israel's and there is no moderate Muslim country...
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 02, 2010, 10:41:21 AM
Comes to show that JTF and Chaim were right from the beginning about Turkey.  Turkey is no friend of Israel's and there is no moderate Muslim country...

Yes, this is more than true. Turkey is just as evil as Iran or Afghanistan, they all just have other languagse and use another flags.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 02, 2010, 01:46:52 PM
Comes to show that JTF and Chaim were right from the beginning about Turkey.  Turkey is no friend of Israel's and there is no moderate Muslim country...

Great point.   If we have audio from years past of Chaim speaking about how Turkey is not really an ally, someone can make a video saying he forsaw this type of turn of events long ago before any of the israeli regime's so-called leaders, some of whom are probably still in denial today.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 02, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.

So you are saying Jews must leave the middle east and go settle in crimea?!  Are you Nuts!?
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: White Israelite on June 02, 2010, 04:40:37 PM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.

Ok what is this talk about Khazars? Turkic isn't the same as Turkish.

These are "Turkic" people
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Turkickspeople.png)

these are "Turkish" people
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Famous_Turkish_people.png)

Turkey is the name given to the region by the invading "Turkic" peoples, but not all people of Turkey are Turkic. Turkic people originate from Mongolia and Siberia
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Map-TurkicLanguages.png)

Turkey speaks a "Turkic" language but that does not make all people who reside in Turkey as Turkic.  Here are the demographics

Turks 58,000,000 
Kurds 12,500,000 (including 3,000,000 Zazas) 
Circassians (Adyghe) 2,500,000 
Bosniaks 2,000,000 
Albanians 1,300,000 
Arabs 870,000 
Roma 700,000 
Pomaks 600,000 
Lazs 500,000 
Georgians 500,000 
Armenians 60,000 
Jews 20,000 
Greeks 15,000 
Hemshins 13,000

Whatever population was there was likely wiped out but a large number of Turkish people are not of Turkic background but they aren't Arabs either, completely different people.

Also Khazars were claimed to be of Turkic descent but only a minority of them converted to Judaism. The only Jews that speak any Turkic language are the Crimean Jews and theres very few of them. That does NOT make them Khazars.

Turkey is a country and they're speaking Turkish language.

 TURKIC are languages of the big number of people, living in:

Xinjiang, Tatarstan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, etc.

  TURKISH PEOPLE are made of Turkizied PERSIAN TRIBES, mixed with:

-arabians

-slavs

-kurds, etc.

 Because Ottoman empire was in Africa, Asia and Europe.

The result is that nowadays Turkish people are one of the most mixed people, but because of the language, they are part of the Turkic languages.

  So, Turkish is just one thing, Turkic is COMMON WORD, including a lot of languages inside
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: wonga66 on June 02, 2010, 05:28:37 PM
Let those Gabriels fly!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_missile

(http://middle-watch.com/images/Weapons/saar4_.jpg)

Unless the Syrian and Egyptian navies get involved, the superior Israeli radars, fire control, jamming, and counter-measures, is capable of deep-sixing the entire Turkish navy in 5 minutes!!

And Unless, that is, that the Israelis actually want to lose! As per Barry Chamish here http://www.thebyteshow.com/BarryChamish.html who claims that just as they sabotaged the 1982 Lebanon invasion, Defence Minister Ehud Barak and his number II, Matan Vilnai, both anti-Kahanist, anti-Torah godless hard-leftists, actually orchestrated the flotilla interception to be a fiasco!
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: White Israelite on June 02, 2010, 05:32:58 PM
Problem is most Israeli ships aren't armed with ASROC or counter sub technology, most of their ships including the Saar 5 corvettes were made for ship to ship combat or primarily ship to land. Submarines can change an entire naval battle. Israel has focused the least amount of resources into their navy. While they do have 5 Dolphin subs which are capable of launching nuclear warhead popeye missiles as a last resort, these subs are diesel powered and much smaller than a blue water navys subs, they were never really made for long trips or to stay under water for a very long time. They can stay underwater at about 1100 feet for about a week and stay out at sea for about 50 days before needing to be refueled. Israels navy was really made moreso for a defensive situation.

Israel was supposed to buy the LCS from Lockheed which were frigates and had that capability but the prices were too high so the deal was dropped.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: wonga66 on June 02, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
With 10 submarines, 19 frigates and 7 corvettes, the Turkish navy is potent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_navy

The question is whether the Turkish military, who are not Muslim fanatics nor idiots, will obey Erdogan if he ordered them to attack Israel, let alone escort more ships to Gazan Arabs, whom most Turks utterly despise, knowing that in extremis, they could lose everything, & even end up returning to find Istanbul a slag heap of radioactive molten glass!

(http://www.afsouth.nato.int/organization/CC_MAR_Naples/HistoricalImagery/COCSNFM03/D2003-925.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Aces High on June 02, 2010, 07:01:31 PM
I don't think Turkey would stand a chance in a war against Israel. 
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 02, 2010, 07:03:14 PM
How about Israel's air force taking out the Turkish navy?  I'm not sure there is much they could do against the submarines, but everything else?
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: muman613 on June 02, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
(http://www.turkishforum.com.tr/en/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/yanan-bayrak.jpg)
Turkish Flag burning
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/2439119068_2eecccd735_o.jpg)
(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/77532820.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921E86F5CE8BE5D78FB34F7EC0B37029A7D648FFB4C0BA232B6B5142317D066754B)

!!Baste & Waste Turkey!!
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: White Israelite on June 02, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
How about Israel's air force taking out the Turkish navy?  I'm not sure there is much they could do against the submarines, but everything else?

Not wise, most of those ships probably have the latest AEGIS systems and could destroy F-16's without too much difficulty, those ships are armed to the teeth and their systems are extremely advanced that would destroy anything within it's range.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 02, 2010, 11:03:09 PM
How about Israel's air force taking out the Turkish navy?  I'm not sure there is much they could do against the submarines, but everything else?

Not wise, most of those ships probably have the latest AEGIS systems and could destroy F-16's without too much difficulty, those ships are armed to the teeth and their systems are extremely advanced that would destroy anything within it's range.
What would be the prudent military move?
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 03, 2010, 01:08:07 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.

So you are saying Jews must leave the middle east and go settle in crimea?!  Are you Nuts!?
no'i said we need colonies in crimea!  where did you got this idea of leaving the mideast.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 03, 2010, 03:08:41 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.

So you are saying Jews must leave the middle east and go settle in crimea?!  Are you Nuts!?
no'i said we need colonies in crimea!  where did you got this idea of leaving the mideast.

Because you said Turks don't belong in the middle east.   Don't play stupid.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on June 03, 2010, 05:08:10 AM
Re:  There is ONLY a military solution!

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LF02Ak03.html (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LF02Ak03.html)

Recommended reading:  The author is brilliant and always does his homework.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: syyuge on June 03, 2010, 07:09:55 AM
Greece, Cyprus and Armenia shall take all their things back from Turkey. Kurdistan shall be united.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 03, 2010, 08:03:03 AM
Turks are mongols what are they doing in the E.U.

In fact, what are they doing in Europe anyway?


what they are doing in the mideast? their homeland is in central asia.

Are khazars turkic?   Most scholars think so.   So are you also saying the Jews belong in Central Asia and not the middle east?   I hope you have dropped your silly anti-historical view by now given the overwhelming proof against it.
ammmm yes.although i don't see anything wrong in a nice jewish town in crimea.

So you are saying Jews must leave the middle east and go settle in crimea?!  Are you Nuts!?
no'i said we need colonies in crimea!  where did you got this idea of leaving the mideast.

Because you said Turks don't belong in the middle east.   Don't play stupid.
i support turks leaving the middle east.i don't support jews leaving the middle east.understood?
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Hyades on June 03, 2010, 12:57:04 PM
With 10 submarines, 19 frigates and 7 corvettes, the Turkish navy is potent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_navy

The question is whether the Turkish military, who are not Muslim fanatics nor idiots, will obey Erdogan if he ordered them to attack Israel, let alone escort more ships to Gazan Arabs, whom most Turks utterly despise, knowing that in extremis, they could lose everything, & even end up returning to find Istanbul a slag heap of radioactive molten glass!

(http://www.afsouth.nato.int/organization/CC_MAR_Naples/HistoricalImagery/COCSNFM03/D2003-925.jpg)


In first place I do not think he'd be so stupid to give such an order. BUT: I have read a long article about the "new Turkey". Erdogan has in all those years infiltrated the military with a huge number of islamists, the military psychologists were replaced by imams and all the higher ranking military officials are of the same kind of Erdogan. He is so much smarter than Erbakan in those days. He knew how to change the country and he knew it would be clever to make it in the most subtile way possible.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ulli on June 03, 2010, 01:09:07 PM
With 10 submarines, 19 frigates and 7 corvettes, the Turkish navy is potent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_navy

The question is whether the Turkish military, who are not Muslim fanatics nor idiots, will obey Erdogan if he ordered them to attack Israel, let alone escort more ships to Gazan Arabs, whom most Turks utterly despise, knowing that in extremis, they could lose everything, & even end up returning to find Istanbul a slag heap of radioactive molten glass!

(http://www.afsouth.nato.int/organization/CC_MAR_Naples/HistoricalImagery/COCSNFM03/D2003-925.jpg)


In first place I do not think he'd be so stupid to give such an order. BUT: I have read a long article about the "new Turkey". Erdogan has in all those years infiltrated the military with a huge number of islamists, the military psychologists were replaced by imams and all the higher ranking military officials are of the same kind of Erdogan. He is so much smarter than Erbakan in those days. He knew how to change the country and he knew it would be clever to make it in the most subtile way possible.

Sad but true.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 03, 2010, 01:17:14 PM

Because you said Turks don't belong in the middle east.   Don't play stupid.
i support turks leaving the middle east.i don't support jews leaving the middle east.understood?

What do you base that on?   If Turks don't belong in the middle east based on race, then according to you who says that Jews are Turkic khazars, Jews also don't, unless you have some kind of prejudice whereby you give Jews special treatment and they are exempt from your racial views.   Or, have you admitted now to the reality that Jews are not Khazars?
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ben m on June 03, 2010, 01:25:01 PM

Because you said Turks don't belong in the middle east.   Don't play stupid.
i support turks leaving the middle east.i don't support jews leaving the middle east.understood?

What do you base that on?   If Turks don't belong in the middle east based on race, then according to you who says that Jews are Turkic khazars, Jews also don't, unless you have some kind of prejudice whereby you give Jews special treatment and they are exempt from your racial views.   Or, have you admitted now to the reality that Jews are not Khazars?
yes,i told you before that i admitted i was wrong about kazar theory.
Title: Re: Turkey threatens to send its Navy to Israel!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 03, 2010, 10:11:26 PM

Because you said Turks don't belong in the middle east.   Don't play stupid.
i support turks leaving the middle east.i don't support jews leaving the middle east.understood?

What do you base that on?   If Turks don't belong in the middle east based on race, then according to you who says that Jews are Turkic khazars, Jews also don't, unless you have some kind of prejudice whereby you give Jews special treatment and they are exempt from your racial views.   Or, have you admitted now to the reality that Jews are not Khazars?
yes,i told you before that i admitted i was wrong about kazar theory.
Baruch HaShem!!