i think that the kabbalah is just a supernatural idiocracy.nothing more.
i think that the kabbalah is just a supernatural idiocracy.nothing more.
do you call supernatural hidden meaning?i think that the kabbalah is just a supernatural idiocracy.nothing more.
That is easy for you to say because you are an atheist and you have no belief in Hashem. But Kabbalah is just a part of the Jewish tradition, the hidden meaning of Torah which is a part of most Jewish faith.
give me a scientific proof to the kabbalahi think that the kabbalah is just a supernatural idiocracy.nothing more.
What an atrocious statement.
As the old saying goes, Stupid is as stupid says. Or something like that. Watch the movie forrest gump and you'll know what I'm saying. Ben, did your mom used to tell you life was like a box of chocolates too?
In any case, kabbalah is not for the ignorant, immature, unengaged and insincere to delve into. If a person is a Shomer Shabbat Jew, he can then even think about looking into Kabbalah, but even then one should have a grasp of the basics of Judaism first. And certainly kabbalah is not intended for non-Jews to study.
What I find amazing about ben's comment is that someone can dare reject something he has never even studied or looked into. The height of the "Arrogance of ignorance." Then again, let's consider the source. This was also someone who thought the Jewish people died out for over 500 years. Forever discredited to say anything about Judaism, Jewish history, or Jewish anything.
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give me a scientific proof to the kabbalahi think that the kabbalah is just a supernatural idiocracy.nothing more.
What an atrocious statement.
As the old saying goes, Stupid is as stupid says. Or something like that. Watch the movie forrest gump and you'll know what I'm saying. Ben, did your mom used to tell you life was like a box of chocolates too?
In any case, kabbalah is not for the ignorant, immature, unengaged and insincere to delve into. If a person is a Shomer Shabbat Jew, he can then even think about looking into Kabbalah, but even then one should have a grasp of the basics of Judaism first. And certainly kabbalah is not intended for non-Jews to study.
What I find amazing about ben's comment is that someone can dare reject something he has never even studied or looked into. The height of the "Arrogance of ignorance." Then again, let's consider the source. This was also someone who thought the Jewish people died out for over 500 years. Forever discredited to say anything about Judaism, Jewish history, or Jewish anything.
???
My conclusions:
Kabbalah teaches that G-d is a force subject to us, that people, using their minds and wishes, can do supernatural things (like splitting the water in two) - In other words, it teaches that men are gods.
So, what are your conclusions?
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Zenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like god after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Zenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Zenith,
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Zenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Zenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
and, by the way...yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
maybe the earth will be hitted by an asteroid or something much earlier, so men would experience not much scientific development.
by the way, did you watch "Idiocracy"?
yes but we knew enough to know our limits in the near future (next 200 years).we would use gentical and cybertronic manipulation to improve ourselves,and combined with our control of nuclear energy we could cliam that this is the the begining or the end (depends on your view) of the human age.Zenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Scientists (and especially atheists) say so. Evolutionists (especially atheists) say we will evolve into perfect being that would live in harmony and hapiness (because of their state of evolution), muslims say that they will rule the earth soon enough, others say that their religion or philosophy will prevail soon, etc.
However, you cannot know until it happens, if it will ever happen.
Leaving beside the wishes and the fantasies, it is impossible to know if one will do the things you fantasize.
That because you can't know all the laws of the universe, and by this, how much it can limit technology advancements.
Kabbalah is not man trying to control G-d. It provides a means for understanding why things are the way they are. By understanding how Hashem interacts with this world we gain more understanding of him.
PS: You cannot accept everything that people are calling Kabbalah... The only site I have found which is good about Kabbalah is http://www.koshertorah.com
Kabbalah is not man trying to control G-d. It provides a means for understanding why things are the way they are. By understanding how Hashem interacts with this world we gain more understanding of him.
PS: You cannot accept everything that people are calling Kabbalah... The only site I have found which is good about Kabbalah is http://www.koshertorah.com
muman613, I don't know what the Kabbalah you learnt teaches, I talked about what I heard/read.
And tell me that what I quoted does not say what I stated: that it says that men are gods.
and, by the way, don't worry, there are many people enough who believe they are gods or will become gods one day (maybe if they submit themselves to some indoctrinations, getting to believe/understand some things, perform some rituals, etc.)
Kabbalah: The Misunderstood Doctrine
Kabbalah is one of the most grossly misunderstood parts of Judaism. I have received several messages from non-Jews describing Kabbalah as "the dark side of Judaism," describing it as evil or black magic. On the other end of the spectrum, I receive many messages wanting to learn more about the trendy doctrine popularized by various Jewish and non-Jewish celebrities.
These misunderstandings stem largely from the fact that the teachings of Kabbalah have been so badly distorted by mystics and occultists. Kabbalah was popular among Christian intellectuals during the Renaissance and Enlightenment periods, who reinterpreted its doctrines to fit into their Christian dogma. In more recent times, many have wrenched kabbalistic symbolism out of context for use in tarot card readings and other forms of divination and magic that were never a part of the original Jewish teachings. Today, many well-known celebrities have popularized a new age pop-psychology distortion of kabbalah (I have heard it derisively referred to as "crap-balah"). It borrows the language of kabbalah and the forms of Jewish folk superstitions, but at its heart it has more in common with the writings of Deepak Chopra than with any authentic Jewish source.
I do not mean to suggest that magic is not a part of Kabbalah. There are certainly many traditional Jewish stories that involve the use of hidden knowledge to affect the world in ways that could be described as magic. The Talmud and other sources ascribe supernatural activities to many great rabbis. Some rabbis pronounced a name of G-d and ascended into heaven to consult with the G-d and the angels on issues of great public concern. One scholar is said to have created an artificial man by reciting various names of G-d. Much later stories tell of a rabbi who created a man out of clay (a golem) and brought it to life by putting in its mouth a piece of paper with a name of G-d on it. However, this area of Kabbalah (if indeed it is more than mere legend) is not something that is practiced by the average Jew, or even the average rabbi. There are a number of stories that discourage the pursuit of such knowledge and power as dangerous and irresponsible. If you see any books on the subject of "practical kabbalah," you can safely dismiss them as not authentic Jewish tradition because, as these stories demonstrate, this kind of knowledge was traditionally thought to be far too dangerous to be distributed blindly to the masses.
It is important to note that all of these magical effects were achieved through the power of G-d, generally by calling upon the name of G-d. These practices are no more "evil" than the miracles of the prophets, or the miracles that Christians ascribe to Jesus. In fact, according to some of my mystically-inclined friends, Jesus performed his miracles using kabbalistic techniques learned from the Essenes, a Jewish sect of that time that was involved in mysticism.
yes but we knew enough to know our limits in the near future (next 200 years).we would use gentical and cybertronic manipulation to improve ourselves,and combined with our control of nuclear energy we could cliam that this is the the begining or the end (depends on your view) of the human age.
So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
Kabbalah is not man trying to control G-d. It provides a means for understanding why things are the way they are. By understanding how Hashem interacts with this world we gain more understanding of him.
PS: You cannot accept everything that people are calling Kabbalah... The only site I have found which is good about Kabbalah is http://www.koshertorah.com . I also don't recommend everyone to learn this before they learn the basics of Judaism because Kabbalah is useless without understanding of Torah.
And how can one build a huge universe like Gd did and fit it into this tiny planet?justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.
Creating an electron is far from what Gd is capable of doing. Gd can bring justice for the weak and destroy the mighty...you mean to tell me a humans can do perfect justice?So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
ah,why all this restrictions?Kabbalah is not man trying to control G-d. It provides a means for understanding why things are the way they are. By understanding how Hashem interacts with this world we gain more understanding of him.
PS: You cannot accept everything that people are calling Kabbalah... The only site I have found which is good about Kabbalah is http://www.koshertorah.com . I also don't recommend everyone to learn this before they learn the basics of Judaism because Kabbalah is useless without understanding of Torah.
and Talmud..
Furthermore you have to be over the age of 40 and have children already.
justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.Justice is subjective to us because we are limited by wisdom, selfishness (i.e. "I am right no matter what"), and all the things that are and we are not aware of (what exactly has happened, one's feelings, thoughts, etc.).
i can state now part of the limits:time travel (we could only be able to travel to alternate universes.sure not in the 200 years limit).
space travel: we wouldn't be able to cross the speed of light.
life an d death: we would be able to reanimate the body but not the personality of the person.
this is still depend on how you view the world.for example i am for execution,if i had the ultimate knowledge i would rule to exectute murderers ar rapists for example.on the other hand there could be somebody that is completly against execution no matter what and he will probably jusge different with me,even without our human limitations.Quote from: Ben mjustice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.Justice is subjective to us because we are limited by wisdom, selfishness (i.e. "I am right no matter what"), and all the things that are and we are not aware of (what exactly has happened, one's feelings, thoughts, etc.).
1. are you sure that alternate universes exist?1) sure as hell.many of moder day scientists are saying that alternate universes MUST exist according to quantum and string theories.
2. if you talk about the reanimation of that cell, from what I've read, it was no reanimation, but changing the DNA. Do I know wrong? By the way, if the body would become reanimated, why the personality not? you mean, that is not in the body, or what?
3. what about those limitations that would not allow us to become as G-d? do you know any? (because that was the subject)
one of my first sentences when I talked about what I've heard/read about Kabbalah, was that there were more kinds of Kabbalah. So I considered that what you know as Kabbalah (Jewish Kabbalism) may be a different thing from this.
I have one more question for you, muman613, about this topic.
how do you think your Kabbalah helps you? or, do you think it helps you in life?
I ask this because what you say ("Kabbalah attempts to understand Hashems interaction with the world") is a bit vague.
Ein Sof and the Ten Sefirot
To give you an idea of the nature of Kabbalah, I will briefly discuss one of the better known, fundamental concepts of kabbalistic thought: the concept of G-d as Ein Sof, the Ten Sefirot, and the kabbalistic tree of life. This explanation is, at best, a gross oversimplification. I do not pretend to fully understand these ideas.
According to Kabbalah, the true essence of G-d is so transcendent that it cannot be described, except with reference to what it is not. This true essence of G-d is known as Ein Sof, which literally means "without end," which encompasses the idea of His lack of boundaries in both time and space. In this truest form, the Ein Sof is so transcendent that It cannot have any direct interaction with the universe. The Ein Sof interacts with the universe through ten emanations from this essence, known as the Ten Sefirot.
These Sefirot correspond to qualities of G-d. They consist of, in descending order, Keter (the crown), Chokhmah (wisdom), Binah (intuition, understanding), Chesed (mercy) or Gedulah (greatness), Gevurah (strength), Tiferet (glory), Netzach (victory), Hod (majesty), Yesod (foundation) and Malkut (sovereignty). The middle five qualities are mentioned explicitly and in order at I Chronicles 29:11: Yours, O L-rd, is the greatness (gedulah), the strength (gevurah), the glory (tiferet), the power (netzach), and the splendor (hod). I have seen this passage translated in widely varying ways, but the Hebrew corresponds to the names of the Sefirot in order.
The Ten Sefirot include both masculine and feminine qualities. Kabbalah pays a great deal of attention to the feminine aspects of G-d.
The Sefirot are commonly represented as in the diagram at left. This diagram is commonly known as the Tree of the Sefirot or the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. There is great significance to the position of these various attributes and their interconnectedness.
The Sefirot are not separate deities, as some might think by taking this too literally. They are intimately a part of G-d, and yet they are in contact with the universe in a way that the Ein Sof is not. The Sefirot connect with everything in the universe, including humanity. The good and evil that we do resonates through the Sefirot and affects the entire universe, up to and including G-d Himself.
And how can one build a huge universe like Gd did and fit it into this tiny planet?justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.
Creating an electron is far from what Gd is capable of doing. Gd can bring justice for the weak and destroy the mighty...you mean to tell me a humans can do perfect justice?So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
And how can one build a huge universe like Gd did and fit it into this tiny planet?justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.
Creating an electron is far from what Gd is capable of doing. Gd can bring justice for the weak and destroy the mighty...you mean to tell me a humans can do perfect justice?So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
So if the majority of the world thought that Blacks were right and whites were wrong, then anything against a white person is justice? If everyone in the world thought it was ok to sleep with little boys and little girls, it's justified to do it because the majority do it? That's subjective right?yes.they percive this as justice.i percive this as gross but i would not interfere with THEIR justice.
Clearly, there is only right and wrong and good and evil...all of this is based on the Torah...And how can one build a huge universe like Gd did and fit it into this tiny planet?justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.
Creating an electron is far from what Gd is capable of doing. Gd can bring justice for the weak and destroy the mighty...you mean to tell me a humans can do perfect justice?So after "a few years of scientifical development a man can create another universe?"you know.the whole series of experiment in the new particle acclerator is aimed at creating the enviroment of the big bang.a decade or two like that and we could create a mini universe the size of an electron.
And I suppose he'll live long enough to see what the universe will be come like?
:laugh: :::DZenith,now do you see why we need science.you can be like G-d after a few years of scientifical development.
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
and, by the way...yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
maybe the earth will be hitted by an asteroid or something much earlier, so men would experience not much scientific development.
by the way, did you watch "Idiocracy"?
Quote from: muman613Zenith,
You have not studied any Kabbalah because nowhere does it say anything that Man is G-d... That is utterly ridiculous..
that Kabbalah doesn't say that Man is G-d, but that men are gods. If by his own mind one splits the water in two I don't know what's the difference between a G-d and a man.
"As the Zohar makes clear, the purpose of the 72 Names is hidden in the story in which they are found. The Names are a tool to help humanity gain control over chaos by controlling physical nature. By their use of the 72 Names, the Israelites overcame the ego-based negativity of doubt and thus changed the nature of water until it no longer flowed. According to Kabbalah, humanity is destined to have control over physical nature; the only obstacle is our ego. Overcoming ego at its very foundation brings control of the physical world, and that is the purpose of the INSTRUMENT THAT IS THE 72 NAMES."
(http://www2.kabbalah.com/12.php)
and, by the way...yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
maybe the earth will be hitted by an asteroid or something much earlier, so men would experience not much scientific development.
by the way, did you watch "Idiocracy"?
Kabbalah is not man trying to control G-d. It provides a means for understanding why things are the way they are. By understanding how Hashem interacts with this world we gain more understanding of him.
PS: You cannot accept everything that people are calling Kabbalah... The only site I have found which is good about Kabbalah is http://www.koshertorah.com
muman613, I don't know what the Kabbalah you learnt teaches, I talked about what I heard/read.
And tell me that what I quoted does not say what I stated: that it says that men are gods.
one of my first sentences when I talked about what I've heard/read about Kabbalah, was that there were more kinds of Kabbalah. So I considered that what you know as Kabbalah (Jewish Kabbalism) may be a different thing from this.
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this is the word of the neo nazi robert.and, by the way...yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
maybe the earth will be hitted by an asteroid or something much earlier, so men would experience not much scientific development.
by the way, did you watch "Idiocracy"?
A good start to countering idiocracy would be eliminating you.
what? i am talking about the process of evolution as showed in the movie idiocarcy not about meteors.and, by the way...yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
maybe the earth will be hitted by an asteroid or something much earlier, so men would experience not much scientific development.
by the way, did you watch "Idiocracy"?
What the hell are you talking about? Do you realize how stupid you sound? Simple genetic manipulation will prevent an asteroid from hitting the earth?
I can't believe what I'm seeing! :laugh:
yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
we would use gentical and cybertronic manipulation to improve ourselves,and combined with our control of nuclear energy we could cliam that this is the the begining or the end (depends on your view) of the human age.if everything goes as 'planned'.
this is still depend on how you view the world.for example i am for execution,if i had the ultimate knowledge i would rule to exectute murderers ar rapists for example.on the other hand there could be somebody that is completly against execution no matter what and he will probably jusge different with me,even without our human limitations.1. You don't KNOW what your decisions would be if you KNEW everything.
1) sure as hell.many of moder day scientists are saying that alternate universes MUST exist according to quantum and string theories.so you mean that it is impossible that their reasoning would be faulty at any point?
you need to finda power source to enable the cell to produce energy and reproduce again.this is why we can't restore the personality beacuse it is a forced life giving.it is like a new cell.you can enable the basic instinct though.1. I don't know what kind of power source you think about, but if you don't already have that in mind (what exactly that should be), how do you know that it would be found? (or that it can be found)
You are quoting sex-maniacs and their own quack interpretation of what they think they read in Jewish sources (even though they are not even fluent in Hebrew, let alone understand aramaic). Give me a break. These animals are deceiving people on a daily basis with their fraudulent nonsense.I still can't believe how that can happen, yet IT HAPPENS! What I've read and heard about - what I have told you, seems idiot to me. Anyway, the fact is that people are fascinated by movies like Matrix and that series of movies with sorcerers (I forgot how it is called) and really believe that if they wish something and believe it would happen, then it will happen! (So I wonder, from where do we get the disillusions, then? :)) )
1) justice is subjective and depends on culture.for example in aztec culture justice was to sacrifice the prisoners and remove their earths.in judaism justice is something very different and so on.yes i watched idiocracy.we could counter that with a simple genetical manipulation.that is why we need to invest in genetical reaserch.
the idea of the idiocracy was that, because of the development of the technology people will be much less required to use their minds, so they won't do it. Just imagine: if absolutely every work on earth would be done by robots, and all people would be supervised and, be judged, let's say, yet by robots, then men will not be required to do anything, but eat, drink, have sex and parties. No matter how much one would genetically improve (if possible) human brain, if it is not used, I'd say the genetic involvement would be useless (or, how smart can you be if you don't use your brain?)
I think that people involvement is ignored, because people want to be ignorant and irresponsible; instead it is said that we actually need "scientific development" (I'm not against scientific development, but against ignoring what man -as individual - is supposed to do). Other thing I heard once was with women who wanted to have children with donated sperm, the child to be "kind, good person, etc." but none of them thought about education, but only growing him as a plant: put it in the earth, add some water and leave it at the sun, and you have all you wished!Quotewe would use gentical and cybertronic manipulation to improve ourselves,and combined with our control of nuclear energy we could cliam that this is the the begining or the end (depends on your view) of the human age.if everything goes as 'planned'.
about justice:Quotethis is still depend on how you view the world.for example i am for execution,if i had the ultimate knowledge i would rule to exectute murderers ar rapists for example.on the other hand there could be somebody that is completly against execution no matter what and he will probably jusge different with me,even without our human limitations.1. You don't KNOW what your decisions would be if you KNEW everything.
2. Even if you knew everything and all I said, it would still be possible for you to do things which you, in your all knowledge, would see unjust. I don't say that knowing everything and all I said forces you to be just or anyhow.
3. If you make a robot and once chose to destroy it, it is not unjust (so, we can call it just). However, if you chose to let it be, it's still not unjust (so it is just). I mean, justice does not necessarily mean "one way", or that it deprives one of freedom (like it would be "destiny" - you are forbidden of doing anything else). And, it may be possible that both you and that other one you talk about (that would not be for execution) would be just.
about alternate universes, if you are sure they exist:Quote1) sure as hell.many of moder day scientists are saying that alternate universes MUST exist according to quantum and string theories.so you mean that it is impossible that their reasoning would be faulty at any point?
about reanimation of the cell:Quoteyou need to finda power source to enable the cell to produce energy and reproduce again.this is why we can't restore the personality beacuse it is a forced life giving.it is like a new cell.you can enable the basic instinct though.1. I don't know what kind of power source you think about, but if you don't already have that in mind (what exactly that should be), how do you know that it would be found? (or that it can be found)
2. explain "personality is a forced life giving" - I don't pretty understand what you mean.
Muman, why are you propagating kabalah here. These people have no business learning it. Just discourage them from accepting what the phony frauds are telling them and that's it. As if watered-down dumbed-down real kabalah is that much better than propagating fraud like "kabalah centre." Neither of these ways are the true ways of learning.
justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.
So if the majority of the world thought that Blacks were right and whites were wrong, then anything against a white person is justice? If everyone in the world thought it was ok to sleep with little boys and little girls, it's justified to do it because the majority do it? That's subjective right?
Clearly, there is only right and wrong and good and evil...all of this is based on the Torah...
yes.they percive this as justice.i percive this as gross but i would not interfere with THEIR justice.
justice is a subjective thing.so there isn't a thing as a perfect justice and the many arguments here proves that.So if the majority of the world thought that Blacks were right and whites were wrong, then anything against a white person is justice? If everyone in the world thought it was ok to sleep with little boys and little girls, it's justified to do it because the majority do it? That's subjective right?no.if you want to judge people according to the torah it is fine with me.i don't realy care.
Clearly, there is only right and wrong and good and evil...all of this is based on the Torah...
yes.they percive this as justice.i percive this as gross but i would not interfere with THEIR justice.
Hmmm, interesting. So do you intend to interfere with the Jewish Justice of the Torah?
1) justice is subjective and depends on culture.for example in aztec culture justice was to sacrifice the prisoners and remove their earths.in judaism justice is something very different and so on.The 'justice' you talk about is, of course, dependent on culture. That because people can't KNOW what is good and what is not (i.e. evil, harmful, unhealthy, etc.). And yet you will say that even good and not good are subjective as well. However, two points here:
1) sure as hell.many of moder day scientists are saying that alternate universes MUST exist according to quantum and string theories.I said
so you mean that it is impossible that their reasoning would be faulty at any point?you said
2) yes i am sure that they are not wrong.so I think it's either of two:
2) we have a theoretical way of create an artificial power source for the cell like geneticaly engeneered bacteria that will replace the mythochondry and the cell core.Do you have some link to a site or something so I can read more about it?
Suddenly everyone wants to know all things Jewish. Jews are not trying to murder and chop peoples heads off. True that left wing Jews are evil. No argument there.
But why the sudden need to know about Jewish things? The Jews are a PEOPLE. If you are not one of these PEOPLE than why concerned?
You should be more concerned with learning your own religion, or finding out what Islam would like to do to "Infidels" Jews and Christians.
Abe Lincoln said; If you are looking for the bad, you will always find it.