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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rebel_conservative on June 16, 2010, 05:38:20 AM
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Looking for more info about Israeli symbols, emblem etc, I came across this
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3840379/2/istockphoto_3840379-israel-symbols.jpg)
for sale here:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-3840379-israel-symbols.php
We need to complain about this.
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These are really nice, I have always loved the Star of David.
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These are really nice, I have always loved the Star of David.
what about the one that appears to be bleeding?
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The sixth one is the one that creeps me out. What the heck is the pyramid and all seeing eye thing doing in a Star of David?
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The sixth one is the one that creeps me out. What the heck is the pyramid and all seeing eye thing doing in a Star of David?
this is a mystic symbol but i don't remember where it came from.
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The sixth one is the one that creeps me out. What the heck is the pyramid and all seeing eye thing doing in a Star of David?
this is a mystic symbol but i don't remember where it came from.
I'd like to know more about it.
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The sixth one is the one that creeps me out. What the heck is the pyramid and all seeing eye thing doing in a Star of David?
this is a mystic symbol but i don't remember where it came from.
I'd like to know more about it.
the eye is a pagan symbol.the pyramid is the symbol of healing but i need to ask my uncle.he knows much better than me about mystic symbols.
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The sixth one is the one that creeps me out. What the heck is the pyramid and all seeing eye thing doing in a Star of David?
That is the symbol of the Illuminati
(http://www.trosch.org/msn/sym/illum.gif)
And this pyramid and eye symbol is on the dollar bill:
(http://www.vitalogyconcepts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/illuminati-symbol-US-278x300.jpg)
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Thanks Muman I gathered that much but why is it being sold as part of an image in a Star of David?
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I found this image for the New World Order conspiracy:
(http://www.signsinthesun.com/images/PHOTOS/Symbols.jpg)
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Oh..the triangle is an alternative Hebrew letter dalid the fist letter of the name of king david that's all
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guys,don't tell me you actually believe in this nwo nonsense?
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Aish has been running this story on their frontpage for a while:
http://www.aish.com/jl/sp/k/48942436.html
Star of David
by Rabbi Shraga Simmons
From the Holocaust to the Israeli flag, what is the deeper meaning of this six-pointed Jewish symbol?
In modern times, the Star of David has become a premier Jewish symbol. This six-pointed star (hexagram), made of two interlocking triangles, can be found on mezuzahs, menorahs, tallis bags, and kipot. Ambulances in Israel bear the sign of the "Red Star of David," and the flag of Israel has a blue Star of David planted squarely in the center.
What is the origin of this six-pointed symbol?
The six points symbolize God's rule over the universe in all six directions.
Through the Jewish people's long and often difficult history, we have come to the realization that our only hope is to place our trust in God. The six points of the Star of David symbolize God's rule over the universe in all six directions: north, south, east, west, up and down.
Originally, the Hebrew name Magen David -- literally "Shield of David" -- poetically referred to God. It acknowledges that our military hero, King David, did not win by his own might, but by the support of the Almighty. This is also alluded to in the third blessing after the Haftorah reading on Shabbat: "Blessed are you God, Shield of David."
Various other explanations exist on the meaning behind the Star of David.
One idea is that a six-pointed star receives form and substance from its solid center. This inner core represents the spiritual dimension, surrounded by the six universal directions. (A similar idea applies to Shabbat -- the seventh day which gives balance and perspective to the six weekdays.)
In Kabbalah, the two triangles represent the dichotomies inherent in man.
In Kabbalah, the two triangles represent the dichotomies inherent in man: good vs. evil, spiritual vs. physical, etc. The two triangles may also represent the reciprocal relationship between the Jewish people and God. The triangle pointing "up" symbolizes our good deeds which go up to heaven, and then activate a flow of goodness back down to the world, symbolized by the triangle pointing down.
Some note that the Star of David is a complicated interlocking figure which has not six (hexogram) but rather 12 (dodecogram) sides. One can consider it as composed of two overlapping triangles or as composed of six smaller triangles emerging from a central hexogram. Like the Jewish people, the star has 12 sides, representing the 12 tribes of Israel.
A more practical theory is that during the Bar Kochba rebellion (first century), a new technology was developed for shields using the inherent stability of the triangle. Behind the shield were two interlocking triangles, forming a hexagonal pattern of support points. (Buckminster Fuller showed how strong triangle-based designs are with his geodesics.)
One cynical suggestion is that the Star of David is an appropriate symbol for the internal strife that often afflicts Jewish nation: two triangles pointing in opposite directions!
The Star of David was also a sad symbol of the Holocaust.
The Star of David was a sad symbol of the Holocaust, when the Nazis forced Jews to wear an identifying yellow star. Actually, Jews were forced to wear special badges during the Middle Ages, both by Muslim and Christian authorities, and even in Israel under the Ottoman Empire.
So whether it is a blue star waving proudly on a flag, or a gold star adorning a synagogue's entrance, the Star of David stands as a reminder that for the Jewish people... in God we trust.
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No, of course we don't believe in the NWO conspiracy theory.. That the Masons and Illuminati control the world... But there is a true NWO push by the globalists... We know about the real New World Order which the socialists and communists and globalists desire...
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The eye represents the All Seeing Eye of the Egyptian god Horus.
The eye in the pyramid is a Masonic symbol.
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With all due respect, I beg to differ with your sources.
The triangle with stuff in it is not the symbol of the Illuminati.
In fact, the Illuminati no longer exists.
The ignoranti and illiterati refer to almost anything and everything they either hate or don't understand as 'the illuminati'.
The intertwined serpents are the symbols of the medical profession; dating back to the days before Hippocrates.
Reason: The ancients brought serpents into their places of healing because they were [mistakenly] believed to live forever and be able to heal themselves. The symbol remains still with the modern medical profession. The Staff of Caduceus.
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=VHh&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=caduceus+medical+symbol&revid=989435784&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=a1MZTIaeFoH68AbTpfG6DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QsAQwAA (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=VHh&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=caduceus+medical+symbol&revid=989435784&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=a1MZTIaeFoH68AbTpfG6DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QsAQwAA)
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The eye represents the All Seeing Eye of the Egyptian G-d Horus.
The eye in the pyramid is a Masonic symbol.
I think you mean the egyptian deity horus ... We don't respect the name of idolatrous gods, and we are supposed to blot them out... The only reason a Jew spells G-d is because we dont want to be responsible for someone erasing the name, out of respect for Hashem and his name... We don't do that for false deities.
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With all due respect, I beg to differ with your sources.
The triangle with stuff in it is not the symbol of the Illuminati.
In fact, the Illuminati no longer exists.
The ignoranti and illiterati refer to almost anything and everything they either hate or don't understand as 'the illuminati'.
The intertwined serpents are the symbols of the medical profession; dating back to the days before Hippocrates.
Reason: The ancients brought serpents into their places of healing because they were [mistakenly] believed to live forever and be able to heal themselves. The symbol remains still with the modern medical profession. The Staff of Caduceus.
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=VHh&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=caduceus+medical+symbol&revid=989435784&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=a1MZTIaeFoH68AbTpfG6DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QsAQwAA (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=VHh&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=caduceus+medical+symbol&revid=989435784&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=a1MZTIaeFoH68AbTpfG6DA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QsAQwAA)
Actually the Caduceus is based on the story in the Torah when Moses brought a copper snake to cure the people.. As a matter of fact this is in this Shabbats Torah portion
:)
http://www.revach.net/article.php?id=446
Parashat Chukas: Copper Snakes and Miracles
When Bnei Yisroel were punished with the plague of poisonous snakes, Hashem tells Moshe to make a copper snake and put it on a "Nes" which literally means a high pole. Those who are bitten need to look up at and become healed. Why does the Torah use the word "Nes"? Doesn't Nes mean a "miracle"?
Nature is also a miracle albeit one that we are accustomed to. The same Hashem who commanded oil to light can command vinegar to light. The word for nature "HaTeva" has the same gematria as "Elokim". We call something a "Nes" when it stands out as unusual. Only the supernatural impresses us. Unfortunately the hand of Hashem in all other events that only he orchestrates is lost because of our dull senses. That is why the word we use for miracle is Nes, a high pole. It is an event that causes even the most hardened heart to take notice of the hand of Hashem.
Therefore Hashem tells Moshe put the snake on a high pole. Force Bnei Yisroel to pay attention to Hashem and understand that a plague of snakes although natural can come only from the heavens. Once they understand this important lesson they will automatically be cured.
http://www.ou.org/torah/tt/5763/chukat63/pp.htm
Following Aharon's death, the people panicked and a plague of serpents attacked the people. G-d told Moshe to put the form of a snake on a rod (which he did, making the snake from copper) and anyone bitten by a poisonous snake who looks at the snake-on-the-stick would live. The symbol of the medical corps is a serpent (or two) wound around a staff. Known as a caduceus, dictionaries and encyclopedias give it an origin in Greek mythology. One wonders if the Torah is its original source... or something like that.
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The eye represents the All Seeing Eye of the Egyptian G-d Horus.
The eye in the pyramid is a Masonic symbol.
I've heard this too, that it represents the eye of Horus. Some masons claim that the all-seeing-eye is a masonic symbol but that the eye in the pyramid is not. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me when so many images of the all seeing eye include it embedded in a pyramid or triangle (but not always).
I've seen it around a lot too:
(http://www.uta.edu/hr/benefit-services/images/fidelity_logo.jpg)
I don't know if that means the owners of the company are masons or what. It's really some odd stuff going on.
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The only 'amulet' which I carry is the Chamsa on my key-chain... It has the Eye on it:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqlyfdHB1m1qzs7pdo1_400.jpg)
Here is an 'Ask the Rabbi' about this symbol:
http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/2062
From: Erica
Dear Rabbi,
I was perusing your website and came across a question entitled "The Eyes Have It" regarding the "evil eye". At the very end, the Rabbi cautions against using non-common remedies, as they may be witchcraft. My question is this: Is the little clear marble-looking ball with the black dot in the middle a type of protection that is generally accepted by Jews? I'm not certain what it's called, but it's available on a bracelet with several of the little marble-looking "eyes" and can be had in just about any color. I would really appreciate your help and insight into this. Thank you very much for your time.
Dear Erica,
The myriad variations of the eye-bead, literally found in any shape, size, color and material is generally accepted by Jews (although blue, green or turquoise eye-beads strung on necklaces or bracelets is most common). The same applies to the other common evil eye antidote mentioned in that article, namely the five-fingered chamsa hand. This does not mean that Torah sources consider these amulets to really protect against the evil eye, but it seems that the Torah does not categorically prohibit them either. As far as I know, no source encourages using these charms, yet their use was and is very common and no Rabbis seem to object.
I can only conjecture as to why these symbols are used:
The verse states, "A charming son is Joseph, a son charming to the eye (alei ayin); women alighted the wall to see him" (Gen. 49:22). The Talmud (Berachot 20a) quotes Rabbi Yochanan as saying "I am a descendant of Joseph over whom the evil eye had no control", since alei ayin can also mean above the eye. Rabbi Yosi said, "Just as fish in the sea are covered with water and protected from the evil eye, so too the descendents of Joseph (who are said to multiply like fish) are protected from the evil eye". Perhaps the eye-bead (which incidentally resembles a big, wide eye of a fish) is meant to recall our being above/covered from the evil eye.
Similarly, the chamsa may intend to recall certain allegorical references in the Torah to the hand. The verse "Your right hand is glorious in power, Your right hand has dashed the enemy" (Ex. 15:6) symbolizes strength and protection. "For the Lord has placed his hand on His throne" (Ex. 17:16) symbolizes an oath. Fusing these two verses, the hand represents G-ds eternal commitment to protect us from our enemies. In addition, the chamsa is usually an open hand that symbolizes generosity as in "You open your hand and provide all living creatures their needs" (Psalms 145:16). Also, the five fingers of an open palm are associated with blessing: "And Aaron lifted his hands to the people and blessed them" (Lev. 9:22). Accordingly, displaying the open palm may signify our faith in G-ds benevolence and bounty.
Mine is like these which have the Travelers Prayer on the back:
(http://www.aleh.org/store/prodimages/TefilatHaderech400x400.JPG)
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Muman thanks for the information. That amulet gives me the willies though.
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I don't like the one with the Blood it hits that Jews have blood on their hands.
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These are really nice, I have always loved the Star of David.
what about the one that appears to be bleeding?
It is a metter of interpretation. If you think about the Israeli blood that was shed in terror attacks, then it makes complete sense. I have to say, I personally love the bleeding one. It is very much a symbol of Muslim terror towards Israel. And I am 100% sure that this is how it was meant!
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No, of course we don't believe in the NWO conspiracy theory.. That the Masons and Illuminati control the world... But there is a true NWO push by the globalists... We know about the real New World Order which the socialists and communists and globalists desire...
good.you realy scared me for a moment.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth, is a communist regime.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth by population, is a communist regime.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth, is a communist regime.
osama is not a problem.we will have him kicked out in 2012.and in the case of china there is nothing that big guns can't solve.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth by population, is a communist regime.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth by population, is a communist regime.
it will about to change in 2026 according to the united nations so we can rest in peace about china being the biggest country in ANY category.
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth by population, is a communist regime.
it will about to change in 2026 according to the united nations so we can rest in peace about china being the biggest country in ANY category.
How does the UN explain their argument that China will overgrow RuSSia? ???
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There's a real and serious danger that the evil people want to consolidate way too much power such as forming a North American Union.
but there aren't any illuminati/this is just socialists.they are not a big deal.
Socialists and communists are a big deal. One of them is president right now and China, the biggest country on earth by population, is a communist regime.
it will about to change in 2026 according to the united nations so we can rest in peace about china being the biggest country in ANY category.
How does the UN explain their argument that China will overgrow RuSSia? ???
i talked about india not russia.
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You two are misunderstanding each other. Ron means size of territory and you Ben, are talking populationwise. ;D