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Title: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 06:11:17 PM
Ariel Sharon not Jewish? his mother was a russian convert (reform)
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 29, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
Ariel Sharon not Jewish? his mother was a russian convert (reform)

Yeah.. deluded fantasy of those who can't accept reality.
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Ariel Sharon not Jewish? his mother was a russian convert (reform)

Yeah.. deluded fantasy of those who can't accept reality.

my Rav (who is a big Chacham) confirmed this
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 29, 2010, 06:24:26 PM
Ariel Sharon not Jewish? his mother was a russian convert (reform)

Yeah.. deluded fantasy of those who can't accept reality.

my Rav (who is a big Chacham) confirmed this

Confirmed what?  That he refuses to accept reality and believes in baseless stories?
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 06:32:35 PM
why isint it possible that this story is true
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 29, 2010, 06:49:26 PM
why isint it possible that this story is true

Let's do the math.  Ever hear any inkling of that fable before Sharon decided to expel Jews from Gush Katif?
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
why isint it possible that this story is true

Let's do the math.  Ever hear any inkling of that fable before Sharon decided to expel Jews from Gush Katif?

certain stories come out later on
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: muman613 on July 29, 2010, 06:56:47 PM
Do you have any web link which discusses such a topic? I have never heard anything like this and I have just done several searches for anything like this... I am inclined to disbelieve this rumor.

Regardless this kind of thing may be considered Lashon Hara. We are not Sharon fans in the least, but we should not start rumors of this kind.
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on July 29, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
Do you have any web link which discusses such a topic? I have never heard anything like this and I have just done several searches for anything like this... I am inclined to disbelieve this rumor.

Regardless this kind of thing may be considered Lashon Hara. We are not Sharon fans in the least, but we should not start rumors of this kind.


Speaking Lashon Rasha about a Rasha is not forbidden.
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 29, 2010, 07:03:16 PM
Next this winner is going to ask us if we have ever heard that all Jews today are descendants of the Khazars.  ::)
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 07:07:18 PM
Next this winner is going to ask us if we have ever heard that all Jews today are descendants of the Khazars.  ::)

certain Jews are (very small %)
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 29, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
certain Jews are (very smal l%)
Even that is a lie. Only the UPPER CLASS of the Khazars converted. The upper class of any society, especially medieval ones, is extremely small. We don't even know that the converts of the Khazars survived or stayed Jewish.
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on July 29, 2010, 07:37:09 PM
The issue of Sharon has nothing to do with the Khazars or Reform conversions. I have heard that he is a descendant of Russian Sabbatuniks. Sabbatuniks are/were a group of Russian who had adopted some Jewish customs and rituals, mainly changed their rest day from Sunday to Saturday. Due to persecutions and lack of regitrars, it is possible that some of their descendants mistakenly believed they were Jewish and assimilated to Jews. But I have no evidence about Sharon, only that someone once mentioned a rumour that it might be his case.
Title: Re: have you ever heard this...
Post by: Mizrahi 4 LIFE on July 29, 2010, 07:42:10 PM
anyone who converts to Judaism by the Orthodox way is 100% Jewish other conversion the person not Jewish